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The Digital Disconnect: Life in a Fast-Paced World
Have you ever stopped to consider how technology has accelerated our lives while simultaneously disconnecting us from authentic experiences? In this thought-provoking episode, Tyler and David explore this digital paradox through wide-ranging conversation about everything from self-checkout lanes to mysterious flying objects.
The conversation kicks off with a bizarre real-time sighting of an unidentified flying object above For You Golf that leaves both hosts genuinely perplexed. Unlike typical aircraft, this object makes no sound while displaying unusual light patterns, triggering memories of their previous discussions about unexplained phenomena. Their genuine curiosity and skepticism create a fascinating moment of authentic podcast magic.
Sports takes center stage as they dive into the NFL Draft, specifically Shedeur Sanders' surprising fall to the fifth round despite his jersey retirement at Colorado. The hosts thoughtfully examine the disconnect between college success and NFL draft position, questioning whether Sanders' perceived attitude during interviews hurt his stock. This segues into a broader analysis of officiating challenges across sports, with particular focus on the UFL's experimental challenge system for holding penalties.
The most compelling segment explores how technology has fundamentally altered our daily lives. From self-checkout lanes to always-on work emails, they examine how "convenience" often means shifting labor to consumers while erasing boundaries between work and personal time. Their observations about how technological advances paradoxically make life more hectic rather than simpler will resonate with anyone who's felt overwhelmed by our hyper-connected world.
Whether you're fascinated by unexplained phenomena, passionate about sports, or simply trying to navigate our rapidly evolving digital landscape, this episode offers refreshing perspective and thoughtful commentary. Join us for this wide-ranging conversation, and be sure to share your own thoughts about the digital disconnect in your life!
Welcome back to another podcast here with Tyler and David. Once again, we're without our companion tonight. Will is traveling with baseball, so we're without him for the evening.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I expect him to get the message from his mom tomorrow about him not being on here with us.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm not sure if it's going to be a good message or a bad message, because she may just say, well, it sucked without you. Or she may say how dare you miss?
Speaker 2:So I'm not really sure which way it's going to go. Who's she going to be mad at?
Speaker 1:That's a good point, I which way is going to go? Who's she going to be mad at? Yeah, that's a good point. I feel we will be the ones in trouble, not him, I mean, he's never in trouble. So you know, Will's mom always looking out for him yeah.
Speaker 2:But Is he a mama's boy? How are most people, most guys, are Probably so.
Speaker 1:It's just kind of happens, sure, yeah, exactly food for thought, I guess. But welcome back everybody. As always, not me's podcast, proudly sponsored by for you golf in brevard, north carolina um, if you haven't checked it out, please do so. Um, a lot of cool stuff happening there, a lot of really fun stuff coming within the next few months. Everything's starting to get green, starting to see just golf weather Starting to see just a lot more fun.
Speaker 2:Everything's not getting green, the grass is getting green.
Speaker 1:No, everything's getting green, like what?
Speaker 2:You're starting to see the trees. They're starting to green again. The plants You're starting to see the plants are getting. I don't consider grass plants you just don't think grass is a plant. No, it's a plant.
Speaker 1:I know that, but you don't say, hey, the plants need mode. You would say the grass needs mode I get it. I'm just saying everything's not green, just the plants if you saw it three months ago, everything is okay, I mean there is a lot of grass, so maybe that's why it was brown for a bit.
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Speaker 2:Yeah, we've got the closest to the pin finishing up tomorrow, I guess it is.
Speaker 1:So our second one of the year. We started back April 1st, so this one is the second person to potentially win $200. I saw it was really close. It's a 120-yard shot and currently nine inches. Nine inches, that's awesome. So one more day to beat nine inches and that's a very close shot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so if you want a shot at it, it's going to come out tomorrow, it's no fee to enter.
Speaker 1:Basically buy a basket. You're already going to anyways if you're here. So why not enter into the close of the pit? Why not enter into the close of the pit? I mean you could win 50 bucks just for beating nine inches.
Speaker 2:But we have a new one. Starting, get a hole-in-one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 200 for a hole-in-one, but then another one will be starting here in a couple days and it's actually going to be the longest one we've ever done. I was going to say, don't make it too easy, no, no, no, this one's actually going to be 174 yards, so it's going to be a little bit tough, but it's a. It's a really cool hole, so it's gonna be a lot of fun, and we'll again run that for two more weeks and then we'll switch over to another one. So, like I said, always even just something small, there's always something happening.
Speaker 2:Yep, you know, right now we're sitting here at For you Golf and we got the basketball game on a hockey game and we was talking a few minutes ago. Now I kind of get into hockey a little bit at stanley cup and but it's weird watching it and I was telling you how I watch hockey and I see kind of the plays in the movie and all this, but there's so many times I don't know where the puck is.
Speaker 1:watching a hockey game I mean I do right now, because they're showing a slow-mo replay so I can see it when I slow it down but yeah, when it's shots on goal constantly and there's five people standing in front of the net, I know if they score, because the announcers say, hey, they scored, and the lights are going off. The announcers are sitting there calling it and they're going.
Speaker 2:yeah, he shoots here and he pucks here and moves there, and I'm like I need to see a replay and they'll be like oh, it bounced off the bowl and bounced off his leg, and then he just so-and-so put it in, and so you've never been to any hockey game, right?
Speaker 1:not in person, though. Okay to me it's easier. In person. You can keep up with the fuck yeah yeah, which I've never. I've never been to nhl like I've always been to like smaller, smaller leagues. But because we used to have one over in ashville, um, ashville smoke, I think it was so I'd went to that. We used to have one over in Asheville Asheville Smoke, I think it was so we went to there a bunch.
Speaker 1:you know, growing up youth group stuff Like we'd take trips over there and to me it was always easier in person, like you could see just kind of what's going on.
Speaker 2:I think it'd be fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, hockey games are fun. It's a lot of energy.
Speaker 2:I don't know what's really happening, but I don't know what's really happening, but I couldn't tell you like this is why this happened or this is what they're doing. Yeah, I couldn't tell you. I'm learning as I see players do things that are smart. The other night I saw I think it was the Stars game. I was watching how they won. Somebody goes to the middle and they shoot the puck to him and he kind of just angles his stick so it bounces off of his stick.
Speaker 1:I was like, oh, oh, that's pretty good, he didn't have to do anything, he just laid it out there. He got a goal even then it's, you know we were talking, you made this comment before we got started here. It's amazing how well they can control such a small, yeah, item. You know the puck it's. I don't know the dimensions, but especially when it's flat, I mean, it's what an inch and a half tall.
Speaker 2:I have no idea.
Speaker 1:It's pretty small, yeah, and they control it so well, and I made the comment and I will 100% stand by this I couldn't do that on dry land.
Speaker 2:No, and they're doing it on skates.
Speaker 1:And you're doing it on ice.
Speaker 2:Well, we know you can't skate either, so you couldn't skate without hockey. And you can't play hockey without skates.
Speaker 1:No, so you couldn't skate without hockey, and you can't play hockey without skates. No, I have no need to be on skates, like the only thing I could potentially do if they taught me would be goalie, because I don't have to move much I think I saw you on skates one time.
Speaker 2:Well, I used to skate a bunch when I was a kid, and that was no. This was as you. What was it? College, probably, yeah, when?
Speaker 1:you were on skates.
Speaker 2:Yep, uh, I mean I can skate around.
Speaker 1:I think you did better than my sister did, if I remember she flipped over a wall like that's, that's, it's not hard to do better than that so so she was skating she just couldn't stop. I have horrible ankles, like sports wise I have destroyed my ankles forever. So on skates like I don't feel comfortable, like I about it feels comfortable, got you so I can move myself. There's no stopping. I stop when I get to something and I catch myself.
Speaker 1:But even in moving I'm not just a graceful person doing it, I can get around, I can kind of make the turn in the loop.
Speaker 2:You're like a baby deer just trying to learn to walk.
Speaker 1:I'm less shaky than that, but it's not by much. That's not a strong suit, I can 100% guarantee you that. But we used to have a skating rink over in Hendersonville years and years ago Actually, I don't even think it closed that long ago, but nobody had went to it for many years and we used to go do that some and I mean again, I could get around, I was fine, fine. But I don't feel. Don't feel super athletic or super just in control on wheels, like being on wheels.
Speaker 2:That's a. You know, we went a lot when I was in middle school I feel like somewhere around there and I got to skate pretty good and I'm no great skater. But what's crazy is it's the generation older than us, that's the skaters, the disco the roller disco. And they can skate backwards and sideways.
Speaker 1:And every now and then on Facebook like a real pop up and it's somebody doing something. I'm like you're too young to do that.
Speaker 2:Like why are you now doing that? Like your mom skate? Oh, mom can skate, yeah, but again it's that age.
Speaker 1:It's like that's what they grew up doing, like the the roller rink was like a every weekend type deal. That's, yeah, you know their bowling alley or their you know what. What would it be now? Like what's the thing now? Um says bowling. Bowling is not as popular.
Speaker 2:No, and that's when I was probably high school age, we had bowling alleys we'd go to, but we went there a lot and they had pool tables Right. So I played pool a lot Right. So I was decent at pool, I could bowl a little bit, but I don't know what they do now.
Speaker 1:Well, because that's like when I was in high school, living over in Shelby my senior year, there was a really nice bowling alley and movie theater arcade thing down in gaffney, so 20 minutes down the road, you know, down into south carolina. So we'd go bowling a lot and I actually got decent like there for a bit, like I could get near 200 pretty much all the time. So I don't know much about this.
Speaker 2:I don't know how to score. 300 is the highest you can get.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I knew that was the highest, so I could do decent, especially for somebody that didn't grow up doing anything like that. But a friend of mine at the time, I mean he is like averaging 250. I mean he's like phenomenal. But he'd be the one like, no, we can't go on that lane because they don't oil it or whatever well enough Like we need to go down here, so he'd do all this stuff. I'm like, what the heck are you talking about? Like I know, throw it at those things standing down there.
Speaker 2:That's what.
Speaker 1:I got, but he'd always be teaching me like here's how you spin it, like the correct way to spin them, because I could spin them but not like the way that you're actually supposed to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I could get a strike occasionally, but I had no spin to it, it was just. Just throw it hard down there and hope that it goes just right. You know, yeah.
Speaker 1:But we had a bowling alley here forever. I mean it just closed in the last few years, which?
Speaker 2:post-COVID a lot of stuff did Not much.
Speaker 1:It was better, I'll say. I say that it's better when it was, when I was younger, but maybe I just overlooked more, cause I didn't know what was going on there. Rough place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, are we going to bring it back? We can go for you, no no or not.
Speaker 1:Maybe mini bowling for you. Mini bowling, the mini, the mini lanes are pretty cool. When we went to we went to the beach hurricane sent us out so they had it at great wolf and, like the kids love that, but it's easier for the kids that's what makes sense too, though. Like the pins are picked up by string. Like it's not like they have to sit just right in this, or they have, if you put them down and shake and they fall like it's?
Speaker 2:it's kind of like an arcade version of bowling.
Speaker 1:I guess you'd say oh yeah, it's definitely way simpler. Everything about it is there's no I'm not going to say no skill, because there's still some type of skill in it. You still have to put it in the right spots to get more pins, but it's not the same as regular bowling the ball. To me, maybe heavier.
Speaker 2:It's a little bit bigger than a softball. Okay.
Speaker 1:I was thinking that's what it feels like, a little bit bigger. But yeah, it's that kind of feel because like you're palming this hard little ball, throwing it down this lane. So yes, I do think it does feel a little bit like skeeball.
Speaker 2:I could play some skeeball I was gonna say I love some skeeball which it's such a simple man amanda, that's her favorite.
Speaker 1:Skeeball is her like she loves why do we love it?
Speaker 2:it's not anything great. It's fun. It is fun, but it's just throwing a ball and putting it in some holes In arcade half the stuff that you like to play in arcade is not.
Speaker 1:I mean, think about it. We love to play little basketball games in the hoops. It's a blast.
Speaker 2:Why though?
Speaker 1:I've always had a basketball game in my life, are we?
Speaker 2:just trying to get the high score? Are we just trying to get the high score? Is that all?
Speaker 1:it's about no. Have you seen the guys actually?
Speaker 2:get the high score. Oh, I have, yes.
Speaker 1:They're not shooting it. No, they grab and just toss. They're not even looking, it's just a feel yeah, and I mean they're getting outrageous numbers and it's kind of cool to watch, but at the same time, let's just go 4U arcade.
Speaker 2:then there we go.
Speaker 1:I need a. I need a room for that, though you got to have space. Those, those machines are bigger than you think. Oh, I know they are. They take up so much space, and I couldn't begin to tell you how much those cost Probably more than you would think, oh.
Speaker 2:I'm sure the old ones, yeah, but I'm telling you, and we looked at them and I still want one the golden tea. Golden tea, yeah I want some golden tea. I want one of the newer versions though.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, yes. So a vintage version would be cool, just for the nostalgia aspect of it, but the newer style ones feel much more like playing like a video game console, like they're just the graphics are better.
Speaker 2:Everybody's talking about what our kids today do. I think they play video games.
Speaker 1:They go to their buddy's house hang out. So I think I think they still enjoy the arcade aspect of it.
Speaker 2:but I think it has to be the right style of games, like it's got to be something that's what people are doing, like on Friday night, where we used to go to Bowling Alley and Generation 4 would go to Skate and Rink.
Speaker 1:I also don't think they are because there's not many around. Oh, I agree with that. But even when they are, I don't know if they are or not.
Speaker 2:Maybe Are there any Skate and Rinks still around.
Speaker 1:I don't know of any locally. Like I said, the last one I know of it closed down a few years back and that was over in Hendersonville, so I don't know we're bringing back the 90s?
Speaker 2:No, we are not, that's not even 90s that's like 70s.
Speaker 1:Oh well, true, but they still have it in the 90s. If you're doing the skating rink, that's way before 90s. It was still fun in the 90s. So all the people our age they would go there like crazy. But I think I think that's why dave and buster is so successful. Yeah, because you got to think it's not for kids. Oh, I know, that is, that is for our age, you know a little bit younger. Whatever, to go, enjoy, it's fun. 100 I've never been?
Speaker 2:have you been to one? Uh, we was in one. No, actually, I don't think it was dave and buster's, it was very similar, but I think it was called something else. We were were somewhere on vacation or something.
Speaker 1:We went in a mall and there was a big arcade, so there's a big something kind of like that in Cincinnati we went to and it's got all kinds of bowling lanes like full bowling alley massive arcade upstairs. I mean it kind of has like all of the different stuff all in this one building. It's like four stories, it's just a full amusement style.
Speaker 2:but it's all the games more. So what I thought interesting about this one, they had like four different little rooms that you could go in with your friends or whatever, and it was like karaoke and I guess you'd take four to six people, eight people I don't know how many people would fit in that room. I guess it was a decent-sized room but separate rooms and you just go sing karaoke, I guess.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I mean, that doesn't appeal to me at all. Well, no that just doesn't sound fun to me. But yeah, that's a very I mean karaoke used to be huge Still is in other countries.
Speaker 2:Now we do everything on our phones.
Speaker 1:Yes, like everything, literally everything.
Speaker 2:So I will find myself looking something up or something gets my attention and next thing you know you're 15 short videos in on a Facebook, instagram, something and you're watching the most random stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's called going down the rabbit hole.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's not even like. It ain't like I've got one topic. It's random topics keep coming up. Oh no, no, no, but that's the thing.
Speaker 1:The way it works now is you scroll 90% of the time. It has nothing to do with anything. You were just watching.
Speaker 2:Okay, but you want to know. The other day that happened to me and at one point I stopped and I went what am I watching? I was literally and I say literally because it was 100% what it was I was watching a video of a guy kicking a rock, literally, and I'm like what has this come to?
Speaker 1:At that point you just stop and think what am I doing with my life? Yes, I'm sitting here watching a guy kick a rock, okay, so apparently randomly, this video pops.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm sitting here watching a guy kick a rock.
Speaker 1:Okay, so apparently I randomly this video pops up. I do want to find it and see how many views it has.
Speaker 2:So it randomly come up and it's this guy and he's like day 15 of kicking this rock around to see how much weight it loses as I kick it, I don't know.
Speaker 1:So every day he would kick it for so long and then wait. So what's your science? He's a scientist.
Speaker 2:He's kicking a rock. I don't know. Is that a scientist?
Speaker 1:I mean technically everything's science isn't it?
Speaker 2:But then I stopped and was like why am I watching this guy kick a rock? Why do I care how much weight it lost while he kicked it for 30 minutes or however long it was.
Speaker 1:I mean, I didn't watch the video because he had it sped up the videos and it's the big press and they'll put stuff in there and they basically squish all these different again. Something like that when I was, when we were kids, and you're thinking about all the stuff you would do, which obviously youtube wasn't around. None of those. You know vine or twitter, and you know I know I went back to vine because that's kind of what started it all with.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to remember what Vine was, so that was like the original TikTok that was like the original shorts.
Speaker 2:No, so I never did it.
Speaker 1:But that's where a lot of those people kind of started that let's do shorter videos, more like really fun, entertaining shorts, yeah, and then it kind of just grew from there. So now you get into TikTok and it's like I never thought some of the stuff that these people are doing very well, doing a ton of content on the stuff they think is just so random. I know, Like you said, the man kicking the rock, but there are probably people that literally are thinking I got to watch my video today.
Speaker 2:They probably watch it every day.
Speaker 1:I want to see, you know, did the rock lose weight? At what day do we get? Sorry, we've got something flying back here and it's taking me back to last week. I can't see it. My back's to it, it's just left of the tower. Back here we talked about all kinds of flying objects last week, so I'm watching something and I'm like huh, wonder what that is. Will would be freaking out right now. Oh, will would be very interested?
Speaker 2:yeah, I'll have to text him. Hang on, I gotta take a picture of that. I'll send it to him. What is it should?
Speaker 1:be on the way back. It really is something over there.
Speaker 2:I told you it was, I wasn't kidding yeah, I don't know what that is and I know it's podcast, so people can't see it, but there really is something weird flying in the sky here behind me. What do you think it is? Because it doesn't look like a plane or anything, does it?
Speaker 1:Well? No, it's too low for a plane, because I watched it come across the tower and it was like level or about midway through the tower. It's got to be a drone or something, right? I don't hear it either. That's part of it, like it doesn't look that far away. This is perplexing.
Speaker 2:I wish we was filming this so we could show the viewers. I did take a picture.
Speaker 1:I'll send that to Brian and he can post it. And all you Facebook geniuses you're going to say, well, it's just a helicopter and y'all just want it to be something else.
Speaker 2:To me it looks like a drone.
Speaker 1:I know what a helicopter sounds like. I've been around them a lot. Yes, like it's not what it is, no, but it's too big to be a drone. I don't know because a drone, like I'm telling you, when it came through the tower, the light when it came to the tower was bigger than the lights on that, and a drone one should actually smaller, it's not that far away and it has no sound to it. I'm telling you listen they, they know Whoever is they, they now know.
Speaker 1:They know we talked about them last week. Uh-oh, now they're spying. See, now I can see the red flashing light.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can tell like a flashing. That's why I thought it was a drone or something like that.
Speaker 1:But no, but then it stops. It should be running current. It should be running current, it should be running consistent the entire time. I think it's getting closer to us, isn't it?
Speaker 2:No, it's just kind of coming off across the left, coming like an angle, but I think the angle is getting closer Huh.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I will say this though If you wanted to see some weird stuff, I guarantee if you stayed out here long enough you would see some weird stuff. It's just because you have such a good view of the sky all the time.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, out here especially, and it's got the same, like it's not sped up or slowed down or anything it's a constant speed all the way across, but you think so.
Speaker 1:The hospital is nearby. Here we see the medical helicopter in and out literally all the time. The speed kind of changes depending on it's angle, but we hear it. The medical helicopter in and out literally all the time, mm-hmm, the speed kind of changes depending on its angle. Yeah, but we hear it, you hear it. It's loud, but you can hear it coming over the ridge Like you'll hear it before we ever see it. This. I've not heard a single thing.
Speaker 2:No, and that's what at first I thought, when you said I kind of turned around, I thought it was kind of far away, but it I kind of turned around, I thought it was kind of far away, but it's not.
Speaker 1:It wasn't that far at all Like it was. But again, so you say a drone like I have a drone just here inside the building. When you know, as as we'll mention, last week I guess last week or two weeks ago my previous employment, I flew a drone for certain operations and it was a massive drone. That's way bigger than what we flew, way bigger. Yeah, that, whatever that was, was huge. It's going on. Whatever it is, they're going well. So, if you remember there, for just a second, it had the blinking red so it's got.
Speaker 2:I can see it now. It's blinking red and then it goes blinking white and then back to blinking red and back to blinking.
Speaker 1:But here for a while it didn't blink at all. I mean, it came across this whole field section and never blinked. So that's interesting. It's the first weird thing I've seen in a while. I haven't had any weird instances of things in a couple years.
Speaker 2:This abruptly ends Choked on that one. Whatever the word is, yeah, no, it was something that was flying by. That's all I can say well.
Speaker 1:So that that kind of brings me into a. There's another podcast I was listening to from kind of late last week and they were talking about some kind of similar things that we discussed on our previous podcast with. You know, some type of light up there, really close, kind of similar to what we kind of just saw, and the discussion is well, there's this company, I believe it's called Skywatcher. Okay, they classify all kinds of things, and so so some, some of these communities are gonna say, well, they're classifying ufos or aliens. In reality, what they, they believe they are classifying is some type of military technology that we that is not known to most people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I think it is.
Speaker 1:So they have, like person, class one through class eight and it just kind of signifies the shape or the style that they're seeing. Well, apparently they've got some youtube videos and that's what I think it is. So they have like class one through class eight and it just kind of just signifies the shape or the style that they're seeing. Apparently they've got some YouTube videos and they really kind of go into some of this.
Speaker 1:They say 90% of what they classify. They're like yes, we believe that is one of these select few countries and it's this that they're flying Now. It's stuff that we really don't know about. It's shapes and technology that we are not privy to. And they say well then there's a 10%. We don't have a clue and he's like we are basically a contracted company of former military agents that our budget kind of has an endless number to it, and there's 10% that we couldn't tell you, they don't know what it is, and so it's interesting, because it's like even the people that, like, their job is to study, that there are still things that they just don't know what it is yeah, I still think it's probably just the military type stuff.
Speaker 1:Again. And when I say 10%, they don't know what it is In my mind. There's something new that they don't know what it is in my mind, that's, there's something new that they haven't figured out yet. I can't, not that it's otherworldly, or I. I just don't. I don't have that thought in my head I can't say no, there's nothing out there.
Speaker 2:There's no what most people call aliens right, but I've never seen them. So I can't say there is. I'm kind of a I gotta see it to believe it type of person with stuff. I'm't say there is. I'm kind of a I gotta see it to believe it type of person with stuff. I'm that way with ghosts and all that kind of stuff. I've never seen them.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing with pretty much all of these mythological creatures, whether it's, you know, ghosts are not technically mythological, but you kind of classify them in that kind of rare type, whatever you're talking about uh, bigfoot in the past and things like bigfoot and the loch ness monster, and you know chupacabra and you know all the.
Speaker 2:I don't even know what you could, you've never heard of chupacabra, chupacabra, whatever you just chupacabra.
Speaker 1:Okay, I have no idea what that is uh, it's basically like a blood-sucking animal out of mexico and south america and some of those areas. What does it look like? Almost like a little demon type thing, like a little bat, but that runs around. It's a small little creature, sure, but again it's new to me. Well, but then there's actually a scientific group that came out five or six years ago that they believe the chupacabra was a, actually an animal that, uh, thylene, some, some type of creature that wasn't native to the area. They had two of them, a breeding pair. A convoy wrecked that was transporting them. They got loose.
Speaker 1:So there's this group that's like it would explain one. They're rarely seen when they're in the wild. They're just very good at camouflage, very good at hiding, very good at that stuff. They're not really a predator to anything other than small animals, but they, you know they are carnivorous, but they're for very small creatures. Why you don't see them. When you do see them, it's like they're they're already bolting because they've already sensed you, like. So there's a group that's like they're already bolting because they've already sensed you. So there's a group that's like, pretty much we can always explain something, there's some way to do it. But then there's also the people that blindly nope. It's something else, because a lot of people just want to believe in that. Something else Because it's interesting.
Speaker 2:I mean it's an interesting topic, obviously. I mean heck, we're still talking about stuff like this for two weeks now, or whatever it was.
Speaker 1:I think it's been longer than that. I mean, we've mentioned them in the past, but yes, I'm kind of the same way. The alien thing. You have something weird come by in my mind it's some type of military something.
Speaker 2:Whether it's ours or somebody else's, it just feels like that's what it's going to be. We are, somewhat, at least, a sports podcast, yeah, but I think people care more about the crazy stuff we talk about than they do the sports.
Speaker 1:Sometimes. Yeah, I mean, I agree with that, it's interesting.
Speaker 2:Everybody wants to chime in and talk about you know, don't go there.
Speaker 1:I know where that's going. Don't go there.
Speaker 2:Just everything that's not where is it?
Speaker 1:I don't see it tonight. No, not that I was talking about the other thing, the thing that's always in the sky, that I have no idea what you're talking about wills. We know we don't believe. We visited there oh, we'll get back into that. It just goes crazy.
Speaker 2:You know I'm going to say it. We did not visit the moon. I'm just going to say it. It's not the first time you said it, I know, but you're trying to get me to say it tonight.
Speaker 1:No, but I'm just saying, because you have so many people, that again it's this blind thought of. Well, the government said we did, and yeah. There's a lot of things they said that is not either true or good.
Speaker 2:Oh, wait, I think this hockey game just ended, finally. Nope, oh no, it didn't what it's still there.
Speaker 1:I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2:They must have been showing stuff from early. I don't know either. I thought it was over. Still a minute left in overtime. See, this is what's exciting about hockey, because now they're fixing to just like go after it because there's a minute left. But shouldn't they've? Been going after it longer yeah, but now they know like, okay, we got a hurry time's running out. I mean they'll just go to overtime, but I mean they know that the clocks doesn't stop them, so it's like just keep shooting I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't that I want to go into shootout.
Speaker 2:I feel like Dora, not Dora.
Speaker 1:No, I want to see a shootout.
Speaker 2:That's way more fun. What's the? Just keep swimming swimming Dory. Dory, yeah, I was very confused.
Speaker 1:I feel like, just keep shooting. Did you bring your backpack or something? I was very confused how we got to Dora.
Speaker 2:My kids have their little backpacks and it's unreal how many times that saying backpack comes back, swiper, no swiping. But our kids don't know what that is.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's so funny like my kids don't know, dora, yeah like they didn't watch.
Speaker 2:That it's way.
Speaker 1:My oldest does some I can see, I could see her knowing it, but even then it was tailing off by the time she was she was. It was old enough to watch that yeah, all right.
Speaker 2:Well, since we said we are a sports podcast. I guess we could at least talk about the draft. That happened recently.
Speaker 1:NFL draft yeah, we, we had some fun controversy to me, I thought it was hilarious so I mean number one pick.
Speaker 2:I think everybody knew it was going to be Hamward, yeah, and there was no question that he was getting I think partly because of his demeanor, he kind of got overlooked a little bit. He's number one, boom, move on.
Speaker 1:So I don't even think it had anything to do with him. I don't think we overlooked it because of him. We overlooked it because the narrative the past few weeks has been Travis Hunter and Sugar Sanders, like that's just, it's been polarizing. Like that's that's just, it's been polarizing. It's Deion's boys, it's, you know, I say Hunter being Deion's boys, but you know, coming from Colorado, but because everything was about where are they going, when are they going? And and there for the longest time, cam Ward's the number one quarterback. Shadur is the number two quarterback. Well, that didn't happen by their rankings, yeah, not that fans or everyone necessarily believed that, but by their rankings. Shadur was the number two quarterback in the draft, the number 35 overall player, mm-hmm. So you know, not necessarily that far down the list, really, when you think seven rounds, 200 and something, total picks 35th is a pretty high ranking and then you think second in that position, which again sorry hockey going to its 15th intermission.
Speaker 1:So you think typically there are a lot of quarterbacks drafted and especially after last year there were plenty of teams looking for a quarterback there wasn't many good quarterbacks in this draft but I say as a whole, the talent pool was very low, because when you start seeing some of the people that were drafted, I mean jackson dart went really high. Uh, what's the kid from louisville? I don't know whatever his name is.
Speaker 2:He went really high. And what's the kid from Louisville? I don't know his name Show or whatever his name is.
Speaker 1:He went really high and these are not guys that we're just sitting there like. These are fantastic, like next level type players.
Speaker 2:I don't understand why Cam Ward didn't get more attention, because he's like by far the best quarterback in this draft and I know so. Schrour, he slipped big time. Yeah, going what fifth round? Fifth round, I think it was. Yeah, Did that give him more attention? Because of that? Because that's all they wanted to talk about then, since he didn't get drafted, was keep talking about him, keep talking about him. So if he'd went ahead and got drafted early, they might have moved on Well, but I think it's like everything else.
Speaker 1:It's content, yeah, like he had a room specially done for the draft. He was, you know, he's a polarizing character, just like his dad. I mean, a little bit different, obviously because it's more modern, but he's a very polarizing character. Now that we're kind of looking back at it, you've got again. We don't know how much truth there is to this, because they're like well, this team's coming out saying that he did this poorly did this poorly.
Speaker 2:We don't know if they're true to that.
Speaker 1:We have no idea. They can control that narrative and typically it's easier for a team or organization to control the narrative than it is a player.
Speaker 2:I can tell you what he said in press interviews.
Speaker 1:The stuff that we actually watched was pretty rough.
Speaker 2:I couldn't believe he said some of the stuff. He said it was almost like you need me more than I need you type stuff and a lot of people don't take to that well.
Speaker 1:So here's my question, because especially chitter and and here's the thing we talk about how interesting it was that he, he fell and all this stuff, but we're still sitting here talking about him. That's the thing is. It is polarizing to still talk about.
Speaker 2:He lost a lot of money, but he's still being talked about.
Speaker 1:Do you think he makes the final roster? Because fifth round, you're not really guaranteed a spot and there's five quarterbacks on that roster currently. They're not going to keep maybe two or three he will be on a roster.
Speaker 2:Whether it's that one or not, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Or does he fall to practice squad Whether it's that one or not, I don't know or does he fall to like practice squad, because I mean I don't see him being out.
Speaker 2:His family is not going to settle for that.
Speaker 1:I just don't think they have a say at this point.
Speaker 2:Deion won't stop until his son is somewhere.
Speaker 1:But here's my thing In his mind. He is a day one starter, like in his mind, I know. A day one starter, like in his mind, I know. But in reality, how many true, and I mean true rookie day one starters at quarterback do you actually get? Because most of those guys they sit maybe three, four games before they actually, you know, take the job. Because in in my mind, if I'm the browns, knowing who I have, I don't think Watson plays anymore. I don't think there's too much surrounding it. He's had too many injuries.
Speaker 2:Didn't they bring in Flacco or something? Is that who did that? They brought him back? Yeah, he was there before.
Speaker 1:They have five quarterbacks currently. Yeah, they got Kenny Pickett, who was drafted last year in the first round. They have Dylan Gabriel, who they just drafted, Shadur Sanders, Deshaun Watson and Joe Flacco. No team keeps five quarterbacks.
Speaker 2:You're not going to do that. Gabriel might be better than Shadur Sanders in the end.
Speaker 1:I don't know if there's a might be. I mean, I think he demands a team better, I think he just commands it better. I think he could have more control.
Speaker 2:Now I have to say we get all this narrative with Deion and Shadur and they, for lack of a better term, run their mouth nonstop and that's what gets on my nerves. But to Will's credit, like he said before, I do agree I've seen more stuff recently that Deion has done with their team and the players team and the player, like he truly loves these kids, like he's trying to do great by them.
Speaker 1:Well, it's the non-stop. People aren't talking about jimmy horn that got drafted by the panthers. He has basically looked at dion as a father for the past several years because his own father's in prison yeah and you know there's the several stories that have come out and dion's like you know you don't want to end up like your dad. You're better than that. You know there's the several stories that have come out and Dion's like you know you don't want to end up like your dad.
Speaker 1:You're better than that you know, do the job, you know, put the extra work in and you know he's a slightly undersized guy. But I'm sitting there thinking he could be a heck of a slot receiver and they got him fairly late and I'm like that's actually a really good pick at the time.
Speaker 2:That's one of the big story. I they don't talk about it enough, but everybody knows. But I've been seeing a lot like all these little things that he's done for his players and said for his players and I think he means great.
Speaker 1:I think Deion as a coach is going to be successful. I think long term, because I think he's doing the right stuff.
Speaker 2:I think he's doing both the football stuff and the outside stuff, I don't know if he's going to be successful as a coach, and the reason being because he's so caught up in himself and his brand so much. Now he uses that for a lot of good, but the thing is, especially if he's willing to stay at Colorado.
Speaker 1:He can put them in a bowl every single year and they will never fire him.
Speaker 2:So you brought up Colorado, because that only takes six wins. They will not Six wins, like they will not Six wins.
Speaker 1:Like I don't know that he's going to go somewhere else. But at Colorado, success is not national championships For them.
Speaker 2:It's bowl games. So we said we didn't know if Shadur should have had his jersey retired and all that. Oh there's no, should, does it definitely change, like the people that said, yeah, he should. Does the draft change any of that?
Speaker 1:or are they still looking at what he did at Colorado? I don't think your draft necessarily changes that because, for example, a Quinn Ewers fantastic at Texas. Statistically he put up a lot of big numbers but he ended up going seventh round. That doesn't change how well he did at Texas. Yeah, I'm with you there it doesn't change that. So to me not necessarily, but in my mind when I really go back and look at Shadur's statistics, it's not worth retiring jerseys the year he leaves. I want to know that's really early.
Speaker 2:I want to know from a Colorado fan, somebody that's been there that follows the team, who the heck I mean where?
Speaker 1:are you going to find?
Speaker 2:that Correct, but I want to know that's not a bandwagon On that team. Was he the second best player in the Travis Hunter or not? Or was there other players that made him look good? I never looked at him as this great superstar, and clearly the NFL didn't either, to let him drop as far as he did.
Speaker 1:No for him to drop that far. They could not have seen him as a just really high-level talent.
Speaker 2:I feel like if you get your jersey drafted or retired, you got to be drafted in the first round, like if you were good enough to get drafted or to get it retired you should be in the first. It just doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 1:So to me if, if you were getting your jersey drafted so you said drafted too sorry, you said it and I was like I said it twice I know if you were getting your jersey retired and I I was talking about getting Ray saved before the draft when he is technically not truly gone from Colorado yet because it was retired before he was drafted. I can understand Travis Hunter because it's a Heisman winner, but he got drafted second. But even then I'll take, because this was before he was even he's even drafted. Oh, I know the retirement came before that even happened, so it's like we don't. They both could technically not get drafted and I could still see the heisman winner getting it before the guy that I just did. He did. He win an award, if you're.
Speaker 2:He didn't win a best quarterback, he didn't win if you're good enough stuff, if you're that good to have a jersey retired, I feel like that should mean something. You should be good enough to go play in the next level and not drop to fifth round. That's my opinion. I could be wrong, I don't know. I do have a football question I do want to ask you about, though I don't want to get too far off. I don't watch this at all, but I randomly saw it. The football league is going on now, which I believe is now UFL, right. Is that what it is? Yeah, the Spring Football.
Speaker 1:League, the Spring Football and you know it's been XFL. It's been like 100 different things and then they combined some stuff. They've been UFL for a bit now.
Speaker 2:Have they?
Speaker 1:Okay, so they're doing this challenge like where you, the coaches, can call challenges on plays. I've seen this. I saw a highlight of a uh holding penalty.
Speaker 2:That's the one I was gonna bring up. Yes, I thought it was interesting I have mixed feelings about it, because the officials can't see everything, and holding is probably one that gets missed a ton but the problem with holding is because there's the old saying you could call holding on every play somewhere in that play.
Speaker 1:There's probably a good chance that there is somewhere that that technical by by letter of the law rule was a hold. And I'm like again that that seems like another reason to slow the game down, to stop it, to have another tv timeout, to have another thing slowest, slowing down the pace, which football, honestly, is not really a high pace game like you're thinking. Post score, like during the drive, yeah, it can be pretty, pretty fast paced, but post score you think about. Well, then there's extra point. I know that league does some things a little bit different, but there's the touchdown commercial. Then there's whatever two point field goal or extra point, whatever, after commercial kickoff commercial and it's like okay, now if we're going to do a challenge, there's a fourth one so there's been challenges.
Speaker 2:Challenges like in the NFL, where they can throw a challenge flag.
Speaker 1:But it's never been, yeah wildly unsuccessful, like it's not a very common.
Speaker 2:Well, because a lot of football calls is judgment calls, Even that holding. So there's some Like that holding call in that clip that you're talking about. That I saw was pretty. I mean it should have been called the game. I don't know how it didn't get called.
Speaker 1:But a lot of calls are just judgments.
Speaker 2:Oh, 100%, like you can't throw a challenge on a pass interference. It's a judgment call.
Speaker 1:But by their league. Yeah, you can. I think you can. And, honestly, the NFL. The reason they got the challenge system was because of a pass interference that wasn't called.
Speaker 1:But, like you just said, it's unsuccessful Very few have been switched, like the couple that I've seen that were switched was basically the ref was watching something else and just didn't see Like he was watching the close receiver and it happened more down the seam. It's like all right, well, that one, I can see why he missed it, like there was just a lot in his area, fair enough. But the one that it's like single outside receiver one corner, you're wanting the penalty and it's like he's right there. If it was, it's either called or if it wasn't, it's not, it's interpretation, but I don't feel like they're going to change it.
Speaker 2:That's another one If you went back and watched videos. On almost every play a defensive back is grabbing a receiver, even if it's for a split second or something.
Speaker 1:That's a penalty If you went back and looked by the rule yes, but it's like in reality. That's stupid, it is.
Speaker 2:It shouldn't be, but in reality that's stupid. It is. But I'm kind of of the argument. If grabbing a player, like slowing them down, is a penalty, it should be called and, like you said, holding in every play. Maybe we need to tighten that up. There shouldn't be holding every play. That's the rule.
Speaker 1:Well, but again, like we said with NBA last week, if you start making the calls not necessarily super overly strict, but start to make it more along the rules, these guys are good enough that they can play that way, but my thought is too. You talked about that with the corners, but you also have the receivers Receivers do it as much, if not more.
Speaker 1:And I'm like, but at the same time, if you're at this level, that little bit of physicality, as long as it's not completely changing the play, I'm just like, let it let it.
Speaker 2:I wish I don't mind defensive backs and receivers would just play without tugging, without hand fighting, without, like once you're past five yards you're not supposed to be allowed to do any of that and they let, let it go. And they let it go and I get why. But, like you said, with the holding.
Speaker 1:But still there's the interpretation, because is a hand on someone still that?
Speaker 2:Not if they don't grab them. It's not supposed to be.
Speaker 1:Well, but here's the thing A hand on someone depending on pressure can be Correct, so it's like it's still going to have an interpretation. So no matter how you do that, it's not necessarily going to fix it.
Speaker 2:I think all these things we need to clean up and it's going to take somebody doing it because it's going to get weird at first.
Speaker 1:I don't think it happens, though I don't think it does either. I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong in that aspect, but it's almost one of those Like that won't happen. So one all we keep seeing and we'll go back to the NFL, because this is where we're just at All we're seeing in the NFL is you can now make less contact with the offense in whatever way, shape or form. Less contact, but do you think, because they want more points, it's more exciting.
Speaker 2:You said like if they call the rules, the players adjust to it, they're good enough. So I feel like if, okay, even college, whatever level you're at, if you're calling more holding calls, the guys are going to say, hey, they're going to call this. I've got to quit doing this. And I feel that way with the UFL challenge. I wonder does that start making their players go? I've got to quit holding. Like normally I can get by with these, because you know teams are going to have guys that are literally just watching random stuff to try to put a challenge.
Speaker 1:I'll even go back to that play. It was a slight hold. It was not as bad as the flop that the guy did to make it look like more of a hold. So the guy gets held, yes, but with the hold then the arms come up and the head goes back and I'm like that again is like all right.
Speaker 1:That to me now negates some of it in my mind. Oh okay, you were not held that bad. No, here's the thing. There are some of the holds, you see, they get inside there as the guy pulls away and they just yank them. There are some really bad ones. This one, I'm not denying it was a hold. I think it was a hold, but I also think the guy's action and reaction to it didn't fit the, I think some of their actions.
Speaker 2:Even in that video I I looked at it more as being frustrated, kind of throwing hands up like hey, he's holding me, like look, oh no like, so I watched it like six times in a row.
Speaker 1:It's not a frustration, it's a it's a flop, I'm getting it, it's, it's like a look at me and I'm like that's what I can't stand you gotta get their attention.
Speaker 2:You know, as football was kind of my thing growing up and everything, and linemen are taught to hold inside the inside part of their shoulder pads.
Speaker 1:Because if you keep your hands inside, they can't tell you're holding. It's not holding. You are holding someone, but it is not considered holding inside the chest Anything outside of it. They call holding.
Speaker 2:So if that player starts moving one side or the other, you've got to let go or you're going to be holding. Correct To me you're holding. Either way, you've got of them, but you know I guess you're not restricting their motion as much. But I don't know. Um, I don't know how much when you get into that, but I don't really mind some challenges in college, I know we don't want to slow down more.
Speaker 1:Look at you look at some of these top tier nfl linemen, especially defensive linemen, the really good ones you may go in and get that connection and hold right there, but the really good ones know how to disengage yes, they do. So it's like again, it's not that they are getting that the offensive linemen have such an unfair advantage because, at the same time, the way that they are now drafting and building these edge rushers good luck getting a hold of them because they are so quick they're slapping hands strong.
Speaker 2:They have such good moves at this point, so it's.
Speaker 1:It's not like you're gonna sit there and be like, well, the offensive line, just have it easy. No, like we're not saying that it's just. It's just, I do get what you're saying, so what do you think about the the challenge then?
Speaker 2:you don't want to see like college football have a challenge, no, so like, here's my thing, and we've talked about officiating several times.
Speaker 1:I think officiating across all sports, not just football, not just basketball, all sports needs to be better. I think that we need to see more consistency across all sports in officiating because, like, like we said in basketball, go back to the national championship. Four fouls the first half, 20 something. The second half that's not called the same way. Well, it's just not we've said before.
Speaker 2:You know like basketball could use another official, maybe somebody to help if not two at this point. Well, I feel that way. Football, football has so much going on with with.
Speaker 1:You know linemen and receivers and quarterback, and you got all these different, but I think it's the same problem, though the speed of it is well so much, but I feel like we already have a gazillion officials on a football field.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I do think more would help, but at what point is it okay? We've got enough. I don't know what enough is on a football field.
Speaker 1:So I don't know what the number is, I don't know what exactly is enough to me. Part of what makes sports interesting, exciting, controversial is some of that interpretation. Now, my whole thing with that interpretation is if you interpret it one way, now do that all game, keep doing it all game. I agree because I understand, like, no matter what the rules say, there are always some officials that just see certain things better, like we talked about that before, like yeah, there are some guys.
Speaker 2:I don't like that, though I get why work better.
Speaker 1:There's some guys that see the hands better. There's some guys that see all, whatever it may be, so they may naturally make more of those type calls. But my whole thing is like just call it that way, all game.
Speaker 2:In this instance, I'm a rule follower. If that's the rule, I want to call it. And I want to call it tight, I want to call it strict. That's the rule. If you don't like it, change the rule. Make the rule a little looser.
Speaker 1:So I think their way of going about that is, instead of making the rule looser, they're basically just telling them be looser on your call. You're right. That's probably easier than going through and changing all these rules, because then it's how do you actually word certain things? It becomes kind of a mess. I get what they're doing with that, it's just. The hard thing I always see is, if I played this way in the first quarter or in the first half or whatever it is, I should be able to play the exact same way. Yeah, all game. No, I'm 100, like that's. That's the thing that. That kills me in every sport, whether it's football, hockey, basketball, whatever. Like, just make those calls consistent, yeah no like.
Speaker 2:Like again in the nba.
Speaker 1:we see it, the seventh, eighth guy off the bench isn't getting the same call. Lebron's getting. It's facts. They protect the superstars and I'm not saying don't protect them, but a foul's a foul's a foul Like just if it's a foul, call it. I'm fine with that, but if it's not, don't call it because, well, we want our star to do that Like I care less about that, and I say LeBron, just because he's the biggest name in basketball for the past 20 years, kind of like what you mentioned.
Speaker 2:Different officials see things differently and there's so many things that, well, it's up to their interpretation of the rule and what they see. Some of that is kind of a cop-out to me in a way Like oh, that's my interpretation. There's too many rules that are left up to interpretation for them to ever get right. So I like the challenge. I don't know how it's going to work out. I'm curious to see how much it happens, how it slows games down.
Speaker 1:I just think every time we keep saying now we are not, that we shouldn't be allowed to question officials because, honestly, like officials, they do whatever they want. There are no repercussions. Later, like the NBA came out the other night, well, they should have called a foul at this point. That's all they say, it's like well, that changed the game.
Speaker 2:So what do?
Speaker 1:you do about it? The Lakers. The other night, luka gets tripped. A trip is a obviously 99% of the time an unintentional action. He's coming up to the floor, the guy's foot's there, steps on, it gets tripped. By the rule, a trip is a foul. Yeah, 100%, there's no questioning that. Well, they didn't call it, ends up getting a jump ball or a turnover I can't remember exactly what happened. They end up losing by one. I'm like well, you just took a possession away because you didn't make the call that should have been called. So they come out and say yeah, they should have called that and that's the end of it. And it's like I understand, you can't go back and change it now, but hold officials accountable for bad, poor judgment.
Speaker 2:Let me ask you this a full basketball game, normal, just just nothing jumps out at you like that, like big plays. How many foul calls are called incorrectly or missed in a game?
Speaker 1:I think it depends on the level, the level of basketball. I think it depends.
Speaker 2:Let's look at the NBA. Is there more than 10? That's missed.
Speaker 1:So NBA, I think, nba excuse me, nba, I think probably has the highest.
Speaker 2:Oh, you think it's more Okay.
Speaker 1:Well, because again you get into stars, they're getting some of the calls that are not typically called. I mean James Harden for years has gotten certain things. I mean he's he leads the NBA in free throws over the past several years, sga this year getting these calls and it's like you know he does a reaction and they call it because it's him. If let's see if White for the Celtics does the same thing, he's not getting the same treatment and he's not like a no-name, he is a starter on a championship caliber team. So it sounds to me like you're saying there's more than 10. I think in the NBA you have a ton of calls that are wrong.
Speaker 2:That's hard for me as a fan. That's part of the reason I don't like the NBA.
Speaker 1:Well, so I just don't think the NBA is in a great place. I mean, I think and we'll be rolling his eyes and upset what I'm saying but you go back and look at Kobe and Jordan era. There's a comment I saw the other night LeBron in a close game in the playoffs, down one goofing off talking with somebody on the other team and they're like Kobe wanted to kill you, like he's not talking to you. Oh yeah, exactly. He may talk to you after the season, when we've all been eliminated from the playoffs. I'll talk to you, but during no shot, during the game. He has no friends. It is no, he didn't like his own teammates, I mean like he literally was like I am here to win period.
Speaker 2:You know this is.
Speaker 1:And that's not the way these guys are now. So we're seeing. You know it's a ton of camaraderie. Parts of it are not bad for the game. Off the court. Some of the stuff they are doing together off the court fantastic, great, I see a point in it. But on the court when you step on the court, which by the way Carolina just won, oh nice, Finally.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know it's funny and again, I'm not comparing myself to Kobe, by no means, or MJ, or anything, but so I coach a couple of different levels of softball youth softball Um, I've got girls on one team that I play against with my other team at times when we're in different leagues and stuff, Um, and when we step out on the field I actually told my wife this this, I think last night I said as much as I care for those girls and I helped them and everything else, when I step on the field against them the girls that's in my dugout they expect me to do what it takes to win that game. They don't, they don't care that those girls are on my other team at times. They don't care. Like, you have to step on that field and everything else is aside. You're for your team and for you and I think that's the way sports are supposed to be. But that's sports Exactly Like. But, like you said, you don't see that now.
Speaker 1:No, but my whole thing is, if I mean, listen me, and you have been friends for a very long time at this point, if me and you are playing against each other in any kind of legitimate competition, something on the line, I'm not having that type of relationship with you. During, no. Afterwards yeah, we're probably going out to eat together. Yeah, perfectly fine, cool. But during, I know you're not going to be. I'm definitely not gonna be like I'm not cutting up having a good time, like when you, like we go up here and play, used to play some wreck ball and just goof off. You're like, yeah, that's fun, that's a different thing. Yep, but then all of a sudden you say here's a team, here's a team. You were trying to win and accomplish something. My team is who I'm looking out for. Yeah, like again, I'm not, I'm not here to hurt you, I'm not here to do anything wrong, but at the same time, like I'm here for these guys. Afterwards, yeah, let's go get some people.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of people that would say that's wrong, Even for me, but why you should? You know you should care about these people and I care about these people.
Speaker 1:But in that moment I have to do. It's the same thing like for your family I have to look out for my family. Yeah, like my family has to come first.
Speaker 2:It's just the way it is well, it just so happens, you know, in teams, and I think of Kobe with this, with his, when he ran over Paul.
Speaker 1:Gasol, paul Gasol in the Olympics.
Speaker 2:Olympics. Yes, he was his teammate on the Lakers Olympics.
Speaker 1:He wasn't, and that was a month after the fact.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and it's kind of that same concept of when I step on that field court, whatever you're doing, your locker room is expecting you to fight for them. Doesn't matter if your buddy's on the other side, if you've played with him before.
Speaker 1:Doesn't matter if it's your literal brother. Like you are not with him at this point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's you know. We talked about the big trade with Luca and Anthony Davis and whatnot. When Luka's playing Dallas, they expect him to go as hard at Dallas as he would anybody else, because he should be fighting for his team.
Speaker 1:That's one of the situations a little bit different. He wants to destroy Dallas, oh, I know Because of the way that happened.
Speaker 1:Like those games were so much fun to watch because, like he has so much animosity. Even at Dallas, where it's like he was super emotional, super happy with the you know montage, everything they played before the game, he thought that was cool because that was a fan thing. You know, he still cared about the fans because they did so much for his career so far. But as far as the team and the organization he wants to to put up 100. He wants to just destroy them.
Speaker 2:I'm not cutting you off here, but we got halftime of an NBA game. Yeah, I have seen the clip of Shaq putting on a shoe way too many times Did you notice that.
Speaker 1:No, I wasn't paying attention.
Speaker 2:It kept showing this clip of him walking over barefoot and sliding his foot in a shoe. Oh, I wasn't paying attention, I do not need to keep seeing Shaq's bare feet.
Speaker 1:Speaking of Shaq, it made me think of that. So have you seen all of these college teams, college basketball particularly that are now hiring GMs?
Speaker 2:I see that a lot are doing it.
Speaker 1:Yes, for the.
Speaker 2:NIL type stuff.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. These are basically like, not even for the NIL. It's basically helping run that basketball program, whether it is helping kids get to the next level or just helping with the whole transition and all these things. I think they've needed it forever. Steph got hired by Davidson. Okay, he is like one of the few current athletes that is doing it but he has strong ties.
Speaker 2:How does that work?
Speaker 1:I'm not exactly sure how it's all going to work yet.
Speaker 2:I feel like you need to be full time in that job. How are you going to be a?
Speaker 1:Well, I think you're more of a liaison than you are actually running something. I don't think. I think it's a title, but I don't think you're a little hands-on day-to-day type thing.
Speaker 2:Gotcha Okay. See, I think they need a hands-on guy.
Speaker 1:Mostly schools. Some of them and some of these schools may have some of those things, but I think that's probably a different position. But Shaquille O'Neal was just hired by Sacramento State to do that. So we're starting to see more and more and more. But my question is are we only going to see it with star power? Are we only going to see the big, well-known guys?
Speaker 2:That's what was going through my mind when you were telling me that, okay, they're just getting names to attach to their schools. Potentially, maybe they're doing some stuff. I'm not saying they're not doing anything.
Speaker 1:So for somebody like Steph, I don't think it's a bad idea, because whether we like it or not, he's only got a couple years left. If that he's coming down to the tail end of his career.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I liked watching Steph. He's fantastic.
Speaker 1:I think Steph now is still one of the best players of all time.
Speaker 2:I've never been a fan of the Golden State Warriors, but I still like to watch him play.
Speaker 1:No, but Steph changed the game, like his style of game has changed the game. I mean he and that Warriors team changed what analytics look like.
Speaker 2:Just without a doubt, with what you're saying with the teams, I think these college teams and schools they need an actual GM and just a business guy. Well, a lot of them have that now though.
Speaker 1:But like I mean, because we talked about it, the UNC basketball this past year hired one kind of midseason and their job is doing all the NIL doing all of that stuff. So I think this GM role and again like I was saying for Curry, give it a couple years when he's retired it's a great something he can move into. We don't know what his career plans are after this. I don't know if he's going to eventually try to get into coaching. Who knows, typically the superstars don't know what his career plans are after this. You know, I don't know if he's going to eventually try to get into coaching or try you know who knows, typically the superstars don't have to come back and do that kind of stuff because they're so set for life. They don't really have to work.
Speaker 1:They can be around what they want to be around, you know, like a shack and all these guys doing the commentary stuff, like that's a different role than going in, like having a game plan and do all those things. So for him to have some type of role that he can help grow a program, help with potential transfers, because if you say, hey, Steph is attached to our program, yeah, that makes me want to go there.
Speaker 2:It feels weird that they're going. I know why he went to Davidson he played there, sure but it seems like a name like that would be at a bigger school, or even like Shaq would be at a bigger school.
Speaker 1:So far it's not the big schools we're seeing hiring these guys. I know that's what I think it's all about, Like two of the biggest ones we've seen so far were Sacramento State with Shaq and Davidson.
Speaker 2:Maybe the big schools feel like they don't need them, and maybe not. You know, I think of this with.
Speaker 1:And realistically they probably don't.
Speaker 2:So pretty much every university. I'm going to say I think 90% or probably 95% of them. They only yeah, see, there's another clip of his foot. What are we looking at here?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Anyways, football is pretty much the only sport in college that actually makes a profit. And then you've got, I think, five or so colleges that make a profit with college basketball. All other sports lose money, with NIL and everything going on and it being a business and they're going to start running as a business. Can they keep doing that? Because in business you don't keep doing something that you're losing money on. So if it's going to become a business now I'm not saying your secondary sports are going to become businesses, they might still do their thing. But if college football, college basketball, college baseball, women's basketball, if those are businesses, you can't keep running negative.
Speaker 1:So I don't think they're going to run them as individual businesses. I think the university athletic program is a whole.
Speaker 2:Put everything together.
Speaker 1:Correct Because it's like any massive chain, we'll say restaurant, for instance. There are some of them that operate in the red every year, but as a whole you operate in the green.
Speaker 2:I get what?
Speaker 1:you're saying, you know it's not really hurting.
Speaker 2:But if you've kind of been breaking even all these years, football's been paying for all your other sports and now all of a sudden you've got to start paying all your players. You've got to come up with more money.
Speaker 1:Well, but I think also there is more money there is.
Speaker 2:The tv deals are way bigger now so did everybody just pocket that before, like schools were just not putting it back into the athletics, you know, I I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think more of it was going into pockets than should have. I think more should have everybody.
Speaker 2:But the program, yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1:It was for years I mean well, because I mean you look there. For a while we started to see coach contracts even small teams skyrocket.
Speaker 2:Don't those guys come down now.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying coaches don't deserve good pay because it's a tough thing. I mean I'm not going to really get into what jobs deserve good pay. That's a whole separate topic. Because I mean the job of a coach, there's a lot. I mean there's a lot to it. If you're doing that full-time, I mean that's a very high stress You've got to be on it all the time.
Speaker 2:These coaches are making $10 million.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not saying they again. Nobody in a game because sports are a game should be making the money they're making.
Speaker 2:No, but we can justify sports by saying how much money they bring in. Like the NBA, those guys make what they make because of how much money they bring in, when college coaches aren't bringing in millions.
Speaker 1:I don't know how you justify paying them millions, but the thing is, I think they are bringing in more than we realize, because these big teams that then have these guys go to the NBA, to the NFL. You're bringing a lot more notoriety to your school, but then you're also getting another potential millionaire from your school that's most likely going to give back, going to give back to it.
Speaker 1:Because of what you know, that was something along their path that helped them get there. Yeah, so to me it's like, yeah, if that's me and I'm at whatever school it is, and they kind of help me get to the next level, I want to give back.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of them do the same way, like with my high school, like I would want to give back.
Speaker 1:I would want to give back all the way down because without that you're not getting there. Same reason we see all these people. I'm buying my mom a house, like the parents are, like I mean the very core of it.
Speaker 2:Part of this too and we've seen this recently with Kentucky basketball. It's floating around oh, kentucky's got a 20 million roster this year and all this stuff. A lot of reports saying that's not correct and I don't know a lot of things too. I don't believe the NIL money that's talked about. I do not think players are getting near as much as people say Right now. They don't have to tell the truth. Think players are getting near as much as people say right now. They don't have to tell the truth. And there's a lot of incentive to inflate the numbers than there would be to to say lower, because it makes everybody look, look better, look what this school's given.
Speaker 1:I'm an agent, I got this kid this much money. Right now you're going to make those numbers look inflated because I think everybody sees the restrictions coming. But if they have this inflated level, well, we've got to kind of keep it somewhat close. You can't take us down to 5% of that. It's got to be somewhere.
Speaker 2:But I think when the numbers come down and they put limits on it, it's probably going to be pretty close to what it actually was. Everybody just said it was more to make everybody look better.
Speaker 1:Well and again, that's something we're not going to know, Because like you said it's not required that they tell fully, like we're not seeing the taxes on these things, we're not seeing the true breakdown of all this stuff.
Speaker 2:If I'm an agent.
Speaker 1:That's anything Like we're never seeing the truth on those numbers. But one of the reports I saw and they were talking about pretty much all power conferences Like, even, like we'll say, acc Miami, who was horrible If you are a starter those starters on pretty much every team was getting a million plus and I'm like, but do you think they really are? I can't, so I don't know that they are, but I can't imagine paying a 4-in-30 team $5 million just in starters, if not more.
Speaker 2:I don't see again as a business aspect. The college is going in the hole a ton and a lot of these public colleges getting funding from state and everything.
Speaker 1:Correct.
Speaker 2:And then losing millions.
Speaker 1:Now again they say it didn't come from the college, I'd say it's also not coming from there too. Supposedly we don't know, some of these collectives, how much money the collective really has. Yeah, I mean you take a look at like Carolina, for instance, part of that collective has to be Michael Jordan oh, like you wouldn't operate without it he's a billionaire yeah, so so so he could he could pay their entire athletic program and not lose billionaire status yeah no, I'm not saying he's gonna do that every single year, but like it's not that much money to those elite types no, I, I get.
Speaker 1:So the collective, so maybe you have 10 multi-millionaires part of this collective. That goes a long ways and those guys are not multi-millionaire now. They are constantly making money.
Speaker 2:If I'm making the money that they, some of these athletes, are making, I'm not leaving college. College Do I have to, even if I'm going to play the next level?
Speaker 1:Because I guess it depends on how high on that level are you. If you're a lottery pick, like for basketball, you're about to get paid way more than they're paying in college. But if you are second third round, I'll hang out, I'm going to wait. They're paying me $4 million to $5 million right now.
Speaker 1:Why would I leave? Of guarantee? Because I feel like it's guaranteed that per what they're reporting, we don't really fully know it. Because again, I look back and I'm like Miami paying Carson Beck over four million the dumbest thing I've ever seen, Like the kid is not worth four million dollars, and that's what doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2:Do we really believe they're paying him $4 million Because nobody in their right mind can figure out why he'd be worth it?
Speaker 1:Or the rumor that Nico was looking for four-point-something from Tennessee. I'm like there's no way. And then now there's the claims that both of the brothers, nico and Madden, that they are in breach of their NIL contracts the schools could go after, and I'm like now we're going to get into some really questionable stuff With all of these is agents, because that's who's talking, that's who they're putting out the narrative they want.
Speaker 2:You can never figure out what's true and what's not.
Speaker 1:No, but that's like I've said multiple times now. It is way easier for an organization, a school, a team, a league to control the narrative than the individual.
Speaker 2:You just don't have the same resources. I'll say this because we're saying this about college players. It's said about all athletes. They make way too much money. Sure, okay, I guess, for one reason, it ain't my money. Okay, the second should I even care? Should I even know what these athletes make? Is it any of my business? Like, if I love watching the game, what the heck does it matter what they make?
Speaker 1:Basically because everybody that makes a lot people want to know.
Speaker 2:I know, but why? Why do we care?
Speaker 1:Because that makes a lot people want to know. I know, but why? Why do we care?
Speaker 2:Because that's just the way it's always run. Why don't the NBA just not tell salaries? And who cares? I mean I know why they do because of caps, and you know Well.
Speaker 1:but they tell salaries too, because that's what dictates this next guy's pay. That's what dictates the positions paid. That's what dictates the positions pay.
Speaker 2:That's what dictates, but that's an everyday life. That's the same thing in my career, but I don't go around telling everybody what to make you know so but your career is not polarizing Correct, like that's the thing.
Speaker 1:Your career is not in the limelight Now agreed If commercial estimating are you saying, I'm saying gotcha, I'm glad you got there okay um, no. But so if all of a sudden, tomorrow commercial uh, estimating olympics starts and it's what everybody wants to watch and there's millions of money to push behind it, everybody's gonna know what you make, I know, but because, because it's visible like the stuff that's visible. That's when it starts falling that way.
Speaker 2:So you're right. We as a society, we want to know. It is polarizing. We want to know, but at the same time, I sit back and go because I don't like what some of these people make. Now, I'm a big believer in you get paid what you're worth. Basically, how much you bring in, you get paid. We've talked about that. In marketing A marketing company, it doesn't matter how much you pay them, as long as they're making you more than you're paying them. That's what it's about, and so that's the same way with that. But on some level, I sit back and go. Why do I even care? Yeah, and, and I think as a society we shouldn't care. We do like you said. I know what I say that that's just.
Speaker 1:Should we probably not, yeah, should should we make any of these sports the multi-billion dollar companies that they are absolutely not. But we do, because that's what we're interested. We enjoy it like we are what causes this.
Speaker 1:That's the thing exactly well, and I'll say this too we may see the contracts, we don't know the ins and outs, we don't know any of that. We have no clue how much these guys are actually making. I agree, because they make. Especially the big name guys make so much money outside of their contract that we can't really fathom it.
Speaker 2:I don't know so much in NBA and things like that, but like golfers we've talked about, they got to pay for travel and training and coaches and like NBA guys, I think they get all taken care of Like they have coaches they have facilities they have, but they still have to pay for agent fees.
Speaker 1:They still have which? Nba NFL? I don't know exactly how golf works. It's a little bit different of a sport the way they pay taxes. They're paying taxes in like 48 states yes, I agree with that.
Speaker 1:I think the only two they aren't paying is Hawaii and Alaska, because there are no games there and honestly I'm just now thinking of it I don't know how it works when they're playing out of country, because when you travel to Toronto and play, I don't know how it works when they're playing out of country, because when you travel to Toronto and play, I don't know how that works.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't either. That's a whole different aspect.
Speaker 1:I actually really didn't think about hockey and basketball, but yeah, you think there are Canadian teams, so hockey has like eight Canadian teams.
Speaker 2:I think Something like that it might be six Somewhere in there, I don't know Like baseball has one.
Speaker 1:Basketball has one.
Speaker 2:Football has none right. No, yeah, I was thinking that they have zero. You know, we're watching the hockey game and I thought of this the other day and I mentioned it before the podcast the other day. I'm watching a guy gets hit in the face with a stick it was accidental Gets a four minute penalty. He was bleeding. All that is hockey, the final sport that still doesn't care about safety, because I feel like they don't give a crap. They're wearing these little half shields over their eyes, is it? They're getting smacked in the mouth with sticks and pucks and slammed against like they're. They're allowed to fight at some points.
Speaker 1:I won't say it's the final sport, because there's a few small sports that are not mainstream, like I mean, there's some stuff that happens in cricket, there's some stuff that happens in rugby. There's some stuff that happens.
Speaker 2:Rugby is one that's. Yeah, I feel that way.
Speaker 1:The sport high lie?
Speaker 2:I don't really know cricket.
Speaker 1:So there's a sport called high lie. It's not big here, but it's kind of a little.
Speaker 2:Well, maybe a big, but I mean it's bigger in other countries.
Speaker 1:That's the thing. Well, okay, we think of America only, but obviously the world is much bigger than us. But it's basically a hard ball out of a curved, weaved basket type thing, throwing over 100 miles an hour. Oh wow, these guys have nothing on getting pegged in the side of the head. It's crazy. There are some sports that's like we're trying not to kill each other and you guys just don't care, why don't hockey at least have the shield come down further Well so doesn't college still have the full cage? Oh, I have no idea.
Speaker 1:Like they have like the full head so it basically closes down completely.
Speaker 2:Maybe I think they still have that. That would make a lot more sense because I know a lot of them wear pads under, you know, yeah, so they all have pads.
Speaker 1:They have some stuff on. I mean same thing like NFL. They have pads, but they're getting smaller and smaller.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but yeah, the fact that they don't wear something across their full face is weird. To those, sticks are getting slapped around like crazy. Not even sticks, though, my thought is a skate.
Speaker 1:You go down and take a skate to your face. Oh my gosh. I mean it's a blade or a puck that's hit at you. I mean, yes, you could die. I mean there's a lot that's crazy.
Speaker 2:It would be kind of the term oxymoron. You know, I'd kind of feel like that if they said, yeah, we're going to get bigger helmets and shields and all this for safety, but you can still rip them off in fist fight if you want and still fight.
Speaker 1:So it's kind of like at that point.
Speaker 2:maybe that's part of it, I don't know.
Speaker 1:And maybe they don't do it because it's easier to fight when you don't have a big head here to take off.
Speaker 2:Maybe they're like hey, you can leave your helmets on and fight, you can still hit them in the face. You can catch them in the mouth and the nose still a little bit. Yeah, I don't know. It seems weird, I don't know. Everybody else is going into safety stuff, but not hockey.
Speaker 1:Sorry, we're watching Clippers and Nuggets. This call is so late, he misses it. They go the other direction. Then the hand goes up.
Speaker 2:Do you have to?
Speaker 1:wait and see if he missed it. It's for Kawhi.
Speaker 2:For a star. You get the call.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like that's again one of those that it's like was it maybe a foul, potentially, but why are we waiting until the ball's going? The other direction to call it I am. That's what kills me.
Speaker 2:I am so frustrated with officiating. Just in general, I don't like it at all.
Speaker 1:I love the fact that we still make him relevant, though, as Peyton Manning pops up on the screen.
Speaker 2:He's in everything. Still Speaking of that.
Speaker 1:I want to see Peyton Manning in another golf match. Those were great. Oh yes, those were great. We haven't had a good. So the last couple of matches we've had were big, high-level golfers. I enjoyed the celebrity aspect of it. I do too. A big golfer with a cool celebrity.
Speaker 2:I want them to have fun, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like that. That to me was a lot of fun. And of course you have to have Charles Barkley there. He is fantastic, he's. He's just so funny Like he. He. He knows everybody at this point. He gets along with them and just them. Cracking back and forth on each other is some of the best stuff.
Speaker 2:I love watching it. Him and Shaq and Peyton and Eli. They're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1:They're going to be around in something for the rest of their life. They're too important to their sport to not be around. So yes, I agree.
Speaker 2:Peyton. Okay, I think Peyton Manning is extremely important. He's still going to be around. But is Eli just because he's Peyton's brother, or would he still be there without Peyton as much as he is? Because you know they do the Manning cast and all that during it?
Speaker 1:I don't think Eli can do that without Peyton. I think it helps that it's brothers, yeah, but honestly I don't know that Peyton is as polarizing without the brother, Without it, Because I think there's just so much back and forth. They bounce off each other so well. I mean, I think we would still be well Peyton's one of the better quarterbacks in the NFL or of NFL history, but them together it's like there's just so much you can do with that.
Speaker 1:So I think that's why it becomes and again, not that Shaq and Barkley are brothers, but it's kind of that same feel. They have the same Like they just have that camaraderie that you just don't get all the time.
Speaker 2:I didn't watch much NFL this past season, but when I did I liked turning on the Manning cast and watching it that way.
Speaker 1:Well cast and watching it that way, some of the people that they have there with them. It's just hilarious.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, they're hustling a little bit on this NBA game.
Speaker 1:We got hockey players on the other TV laying in the net. Of course they're going to hustle a little more.
Speaker 2:They got like five players in the net.
Speaker 1:But it's also 84 to 70 and we're not halfway through the third yet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is going to be a high scoring game. That's nuts. Hey, I told you before I came here tonight. So I got done. I was at a ball game and I ran and got some food and I went through McDonald's drive-thru and I sat there forever. I mean literally forever. I mean I guess not literally, because I'm good. Hours is hours is awful, but yeah, sometimes it's really fast.
Speaker 2:But the lady, she gets my drink and I wait there a little bit longer and she hands me the food and I said the straw she gave me my drink was like wet and half open. I'm like, yeah, I'm not doing that. So I was like hey, can I have another straw? So she hands me two of them and she says something to the effect of do you want to check your food there? I'm not sure if it's all in there and I'm like okay, isn't that your job? Like why did you hand me my bag and then say I might want to check that. You check that for me? Let me know if everything's in there, like what you done. If I was like no, it's not, I'm just she gave you more.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's another 20 years.
Speaker 2:they do, though, like if you would have gave you more, I would have had to wait another 20 years.
Speaker 1:But that's what they do, though. If you would have looked and they're like oh yeah, I'm missing two cheeseburgers, oh, give me just a sec. Like that's just kind of I don't think they think about that I mean.
Speaker 2:I like self-checkout, but I still think you should check my bag of food where you hand it to me.
Speaker 1:You know it just feels like I'm doing their job, because I went to our local big grocery store here the other day and what I hate about self-checkout there's not enough space. Never is enough space.
Speaker 2:It's such a tiny little, because I don't think it was meant for that originally. To me it was meant for basically like 10 items and less, Like the old fast lanes or whatever it was, if you you had 12, that made you get out and go somewhere, right?
Speaker 1:where it's like hey, you, you do a couple of items and go. But the problem is like walmart, a bunch of grocery stores, all these places are switching to almost all self-checkouts.
Speaker 2:They are, but they're doing those little ones like that works so our local one has one line that has like the little belt and it's fantastic. Yes, if you've got a bunch of stuff, I love that one.
Speaker 1:So if I have a ton of stuff which typically I don't at our Walmart because it's not a super small thing. I don't typically have that amount of stuff, but I think about when I went to the grocery store. I'm like if I had that or even half of that, I would do an entire load of groceries and not mine.
Speaker 2:The grocery store you're talking about. What drives me nuts about it? There's not a lot of space, so even the stuff where you put the stuff in the bags, not a lot of space, correct?
Speaker 1:And if you pick something up off, of it, it starts screaming at you that one you have to leave on it. So you've got to leave all your stuff on there.
Speaker 2:Yes, and keep moving stuff around to try to get there, and try to get there, and then, when you finally pay, then you can take all your bags off of it.
Speaker 1:But the problem is if you have too much, where do you put it? I don't know Like so if you ever noticed there's a button you can hit skip bagging? I have noticed it and it doesn't. It doesn't do that and I'm like you, just skip everything what's the point. I don't. I saw, so you know table. I saw um something the other day.
Speaker 2:It was a restaurant and I don't. I want to say it was somewhere in the state of North Carolina, so I can't remember, and I'm sure there's more of these all over the place but in the restaurant you go and kind of pick out what you want and you take it to your table and you cook it at your table Like a grill at your table. I got grilled tritone stuff. Why am I paying for that? That's what I thought. Again, I like the self-checkout, but we might be taking it a bit too far.
Speaker 1:So like I've seen that in a few places, I want to say it was up New York Pennsylvania area there's like a pizza place like that.
Speaker 2:That, like you'd make your entire. I could see that being interesting making a pizza but make your entire.
Speaker 1:I could see that being interesting making a pizza, but if you're going for that like experience and that part of it, sure it's different at that point. Yes, Like if I am going out to eat somewhere, my expectation is I don't have to do anything.
Speaker 2:That's part of the I think that's why buffets are going away, because people are tired of getting up, and then we'll get their own food on it.
Speaker 1:They want, they want to be. I think the quality of them is also that is true, but I think what 90s, early 2000s buffets were huge oh massive massive, you know, I can think of how many there were I mean, like the different types, there was a ton of different buffets, but yeah, so I don't think that's as common. Well, another thing that to me buffets aren't as common post-COVID, the whole germ stuff Like a buffet is not a very clean area, like it just can't be.
Speaker 2:It's nothing against the restaurant. I remember going to a buffet a little bit after that. I think it was Okay and the few little things like okay, so one particular buffet, like you get your plate and you go get your food, okay, they had a I don't know container, baggy, whatever thing, on the little counter thing where you get your plates with plastic gloves and you're supposed to put on the plastic gloves before you got your plate. Like what are we like, really like when a buffet yeah and you want me to put on plastic gloves?
Speaker 1:So in my mind the way that that works is have it set up where there's like six items there and you should tell somebody what you want.
Speaker 2:They should just scoop it out Like in school. Like a cafeteria style, yeah, where it's like.
Speaker 1:I want this, this and this and like obviously you've already paid for it, so get whatever you want, but I want the potatoes and I want this and I want that and let's have glass in front of all the food, so you can't even get to it Like a Subway at that point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, give me that, that I'd be like all right. Yeah, that to me makes sense, because if you look at especially, I'm sure, the buffet you're talking about they have so many workers, like they have somebody attending that stuff already, so it wouldn't be much more for them to just have to serve. Shouldn't be? So that's me I'm like. And again, don't stick that one person there for eight hours, like give them like an hour shift of that and then rotate them to something else.
Speaker 2:But the problem is we're going the wrong direction, the fact that we're saying here, come get your meat and cook it yourself.
Speaker 1:Here's all the supplies. Go cook.
Speaker 2:We used to go to a Chinese restaurant where I used to live. I'm sure it wasn't quality, I mean it was decent, but I don't like a lot of the Chinese food. But what I loved about this particular one you could go over to the little counter and pick out like pork chops and a couple things like that and you take it to the grill and they cook it there and you can tell them what toppings, what vegetables, whatever that kind of stuff that I can handle a bit more because I got to pick out when we have that at our local one the big one you can do that over.
Speaker 1:I'm not huge on Chinese foods, I just don't go there.
Speaker 2:But again, I didn't have to actually cook it.
Speaker 1:No, you went and so, like the one here, because that's the one I know you go over and you scoop out what you want. So you basically put as much as you want on this plate. You take the plate over to the man at the grill and he's like alright, give me a few minutes.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like okay.
Speaker 2:I can handle that.
Speaker 1:That's fine. But even then to me, I'd rather just tell somebody like I want that, that and that. Uh, give me a little bit more of that.
Speaker 2:Like I think we're just slowly cleaner going to where we have to do everything and I don't know.
Speaker 1:But it's the whole like automation thing, like everybody wants to be able to pay less to employees, pay less on salary, so by doing that I got some upfront cost in equipment. I don't have to pay somebody to do that job.
Speaker 2:You know who I blame for this? Who's that Gas stations? They started this.
Speaker 1:I was kind of thinking the Jetsons, jetsons, okay, we went different ways.
Speaker 2:No, back in the day, the gas stations.
Speaker 1:Self service, you know. They took care of you. So there's.
Speaker 2:No, they were full service, you know, and they'd clean your windshield. I'm sorry, not self service, full service. Pump your gas.
Speaker 1:And then when is it? There's a state, for some reason I'm thinking Oregon but I don't think that's right. It is illegal to pump your own gas. They have to still be serviced like that, are they?
Speaker 1:going to clean the literature that it's basically like, because it's a chemical I mean obviously gasoline it's chemical you have to have a trained operator. So like somebody that like knows, it kind of makes sense. And when I heard that I was like, oh, that's so stupid, why can't you not pump your own gas? And they started going into it and I was like, oh, well, so you think about it.
Speaker 1:Nobody's driving off with it still attached. Nobody's spilling it. If there is a spill, nobody cleans it, and it's like 18, I actually worked at a gas station.
Speaker 2:That's still done the pump gas.
Speaker 1:I've been to that one a couple times.
Speaker 2:But the crazy thing, it had eight pumps. Four of them would be the worker like me. When I worked there, we'd pump your gas for you. The other four, you could pump your own gas, correct, and you'd have to come pay me. That was way too much for a lot of times, like one worker being there trying to keep up with eight pumps four year pumping four year trying to keep up with money.
Speaker 1:Eight pumps four. I got to do four you're doing but you're still coming to pay me for it. That was too much yeah.
Speaker 2:I agree. Yeah, I didn't care for it, you know again.
Speaker 1:I was 18. My question it you almost feel that you got to tip them. Oh, I didn't get no tips for doing so. Like most, like if it was happening now.
Speaker 2:A lot of people are going to look at that.
Speaker 1:We would think so oh man, if I so, was it now I kind of guess, was it more expensive?
Speaker 2:to have you bump. It was a few cents more per gallon. The station charged a few more.
Speaker 1:So it's like why? Why have you do it? Like because, if you're, because I mean you think about it like all of these, like our biggest local grocery store, you buy food, you scan your little thing. You get money off of gas. We're always trying to save as many cents on gas as you can. Which gas back then was?
Speaker 2:way cheaper.
Speaker 1:People that didn't want to get out of the car, but I mean you think gas back then, even then, and that wasn't like crazy, crazy much time ago.
Speaker 2:Probably we weren't talking 18 years ago or so. At this point we're not talking 50. 20 years.
Speaker 1:No, I agree. People are like oh you know, a gallon of gas is a quarter. It's like, well, no, we've never seen that.
Speaker 2:No, actually, while I worked there, we had some of the big spikes that hit $3, $4 a gallon.
Speaker 1:You know even more than it is now gasping a dollar, something like high dollar something oh, I did, but I can also remember seeing it over five yep, like we've seen everything in between and we ain't talking like in the big cities either, we're talking no, we're talking out in the middle of nowhere like big cities.
Speaker 1:I can't imagine. I mean, I remember seeing, during the height of everything, some areas in california. It was like twelve dollars a gallon and I'm like or in a there. And then, uh, chicago, I saw, and I'm like or in a there. And in Chicago I saw, and I'm like I couldn't go anywhere $12 a gallon, I can't drive. I can't drive to the gas station.
Speaker 2:Don't you think all this, you know self-checkout and all this stuff, is it going to eventually just go through the cycle where there's going to be some store comes out and they're going to market you don't have to check yourself out here, you know, and kind of think so, just, but it's all going to make everything else.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, cause you think about it way back when you had like the, the grocery store, they would bag it for you, they would take it to your vehicle for you. They'd put your cart away for you. Now we're to the point. We've got, we've got grocery stores that you got to put a quarter in just to get a cart. Like you have to do all of this stuff.
Speaker 2:So we're busy on the go all the time and I've got three kids the two boys are really small. All the time my wife will order groceries online and we pull in the spot, tell them we're there and they'll bring the groceries out to our car for us. We don't have to try to take all the kids in.
Speaker 1:That, to me, is the modern version of that person bagging and taking it to the car, but they go and shop for you now, too Correct. So to me, I don't think we're going to see the full circle of, like we said, this person's doing this. I think there'll be something along that line. Our full circle will be more of you. Just click it on the, the website, and here you go, like I think now they'll bring it to your house even, but I think that's just going to get more and more items and just better and better. I think that's going to be the thing. I think you may see a store that you're not allowed to come in.
Speaker 2:It's only that I think potentially, you could and it's like why not there's gas stations that way? Yeah, why not Just have grocery stores that way?
Speaker 1:So one thing that I wish you saw more was the drive-thru gas stations, the one, like you, don't get out and go in.
Speaker 2:You pull in it and you're like I lived in Ohio for a little bit and I remember like convenience store type thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You pull in, it's like you're literally parked in the store Inside of the store. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah, I remember that as a kid Because that was for me. That was the first time I ever seen it. I don't think I've seen one since.
Speaker 2:And I was like whoa the first time I went to one was in college. Oh it was. It was uh in tennessee, in tennessee, okay. Yeah, see, I don't know if that would stay or if that's going to go away, I just think I just think it's an interesting concept, like things like that are intriguing.
Speaker 1:They're different, so I'm like those are. Those are kind of cool yeah, it's the same thing like obviously I missed the heyday of this. I'm way too young for it, you know 35. I'm not really young, but I'm too young for this. The drive-in movies that's such a cool concept to me Again.
Speaker 2:I remember going to some as a kid with my family.
Speaker 1:Like but you think about the movie theaters went through this whole thing Like. I can remember very simple seats, very, very basic, to where it went to. Now we're getting nicer, more comfortable seats. Now we're getting lounging seats. Now we're having full service meals during it. Now we're having all these things and then now it's. I just want to watch at home, like it went from like all those things to it's like now I don't want to go there so the reason I watch movies at home?
Speaker 1:because I don't want to pay what it costs well, no, so that's, that's a little different the the price of it. But I'm just even thinking like the experience, the whole thing. It's why go do that when I can just be comfortable in my own house like we, we keep going through these cycles. I mean that's, that's just part of it. I'm just what makes me wonder is like all right, what's next?
Speaker 2:because we keep seeing the change it's like what is I see with phones, where phones are really big?
Speaker 1:and we can't get them smaller and smaller and smaller. We've seen all the stuff and now they start going big again. They go big and then they go back small and it's just. I don't think that'll change because that's just preference, like you'll go through the time of. I really like having this big screen but then I know I mean it's.
Speaker 1:It's an interesting thing to think about, because innovation is. It feels like to me there's not much invention that's going to happen. I feel like it's going to all be innovation. I don't think we're going to see something just blatantly new, I think we're just going to see something that's improved.
Speaker 2:I think again. I think it's going to, but now they probably said that 50 years ago they said, oh, there's not gonna be much else invented, so that I don't know if they said it 50 years ago, even because technology was just skyrocketing.
Speaker 1:At that point, like 50 years ago, you were starting to see I mean you're talking 70s, stuff was really starting to jump yeah because I mean, like we talked about star wars a few few weeks ago, well, the all of the stuff that was done to make that movie, they had to sit back and think, man, in 20 years it's going to be so much easier to do. Like all of the special effects are going to be so much easier. So you think now, 50 years later I mean half these movies are done in front of a green screen and they just do all the special effects, like you're not having to shoot much the same way where everything before was like you had to make these noises and you had to do all these things.
Speaker 2:I mean I kind of miss the I don't like saying the the old man term simpler times, but some sometimes the technology and everything has made our lives so fast paced, with everything we do, and we're on the go all the time sometimes not all technology has really been for the better, like just because the technology has advanced, something didn't actually make it better. It's made. It made things easier, but then we just did something else more well.
Speaker 1:But again, easier doesn't actually mean better, though like I'm with you because like that's the thing, like there's so many things that that we do and it's like, well, yeah, it's so much easier now, but it doesn't necessarily make it a better experience or a better thing we mentioned, uh, like the older sitcoms, and I love watching those and seeing right how things were different and and just no cell phones and a lot of those older ones so that's the biggest thing so one of the one of the shows we've talked about now we're talking about before that we started recording tonight was seinfeld.
Speaker 1:So I can remember watching that show and it never once crossed my mind. And I see a post and there's a thing saying jerry's apartment cannot exist okay, so I've started recently watching the hallway, the, the way this is cannot exist, and I'm like, what do they mean by that?
Speaker 1:and they show kind of like the from just all the different angles that you've seen over the years, the way that they because you don't see much of the outer, outer hallway, yeah, but the little bit that you do see they kind of make up this mock, uh blueprint of how this would all go, and where the hallway should go is directly through where his kitchen is actually at yeah, because that's.
Speaker 1:And again, on some of these older things that's not thought about it didn't matter you do whatever out here, but the main set is right here, so you make it however you want to make it, but then when you try actually end up putting it all together, it it's like, well, hang on a sec, that can't. And this isn't the only show, that's just one I know we were talking about. But I've seen a few where they're like, hey, the rooms or this can't actually look like this because of these things.
Speaker 2:So I've been watching Seinfeld a little bit more because Will brought it up, right. But I like all those old sitcoms and there's several in there. But something I noticed in Seinfeld, and when I noticed it I got to thinking about other sitcoms and it was this way with all of them. And even thinking back, though I think, if I think about my grandparents' house, their houses might've been this way too. But every sitcom, if you get to look in in their kitchen, there is a million boxes of cereal. I don't know if people just ate tons of cereal or what it was, but like in Jerry's, you're talking about Seinfeld. If you look in his kitchen cabinet, you'll see boxes all across.
Speaker 1:He always has a bunch of boxes of cereal.
Speaker 2:And I started thinking about other sitcoms and I remember that in other sitcoms Well, but I think you're also thinking of all these sitcoms.
Speaker 1:That was the 90s, I know, but think about how many. So I mean, I go back to watching cartoons as a kid. There was Cocoa Puffs commercials, there was Fruity Pebbles commercials, there was Fruit Loops commercials. There was like a hundred different cereals and I can remember the commercials and the little characters and all the little things and it's like, of course, we had a ton of cereal because we were getting it pushed on us like crazy, but I feel like I don't remember my house having like tons, like we ate cereal but not like had bunches of boxes, but I think my grandparents did.
Speaker 2:We had a ton, did you? Oh gosh, yeah, we had cereal like crazy Like now if I go buy a box here, we'll get one or two boxes. I probably have six in my, my pantry right now Like, do you just like say, Hmm, I think I want this one today.
Speaker 1:Well, it just depends Like the kids like a certain cereal. I mean, they like something different, amanda likes something different, so you end up with like five of them and then, of course, you know a sudden they don't like it anymore yeah so then you've got this one here and it's like, well, they might like it in two days, so you hang on to it I mean yeah, I mean we'll have two or three tops at a time oh no, and when those are out we'll go get a different flavor different brand or something you know?
Speaker 1:we always have probably four to five different types of cereal, so is that still a?
Speaker 2:thing, or is that just from the 90s and you've kind of carried it over? Or do you think other people do that?
Speaker 1:I. I mean, I think it probably just depends on the age of your family because, like my, kids are still young enough that you know they're. They're eating breakfast before they leave and they're doing these things.
Speaker 2:So not necessarily that cereal is a great breakfast, but that is one thing you don't get up and fix them a nutrition, nutritional breakfast every morning a nutritious meal.
Speaker 1:No sure who's got time for that you're right, that's the problem.
Speaker 2:I I mean so, and that's kind of what I meant, though, with talking about technology and stuff, it's made it to where we don't have time for anything.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, but part of that business is now expect more because of the way technology can allow, more because of the way technology can allow. So, like your job now, compared to 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago, you were doing infinitely more because of technology.
Speaker 2:Potential is there because of technology and computers and I can work from home and all this. My job kind of never stops right. I'm always looking at emails, but you're basically always available.
Speaker 1:Whether you really want to be or not, you're always available, and I wish that is something as a whole we could get away from, because even now I think about it like with the range at any given time somebody could need something, so it's like I have to have that available and ready and I don't necessarily want that.
Speaker 2:I agree with that. I feel a little better about it when it's something we own.
Speaker 1:No, so I agree with that, but it's it's just more of like again, and we're we're guilty of it too. We talked about, you know, automation. We talked about, you know, compared to having somebody, realistically, if we had someone, a attendant, on site at all times, none of those calls matter. I don't have to get this call. But hey, this and this and this is happening, whoever's there, it's just dealt with. So that's the thing is. We made it, you know, quote unquote, better in ways, but then it just causes a different thing. Well, so we don't want we don't.
Speaker 2:We're saying like we're, we're kind of always available and in right. We don't want that, but at the same time, like, let the restaurant down the street close at seven and not be able to weekend, so they can be at home and we're gonna be upset highly upset, like why are? You not open absolutely, and so it's kind of forced everybody to be open like that, because we've got local restaurants that close it.
Speaker 1:But to me at that, at that point I I think it depends on what the field is like your job commercial estimating. Why do you need to be available Saturday, sunday? I don't, I'm just no, I get it and I understand that, but you also have it. It's always handy because everything comes to your phone, everything.
Speaker 2:I think I feel like I'm always so far behind that I'm just always.
Speaker 1:I even just think like even if you're level you're caught up. You're where you need to be. Level you're, you're caught up. You're where you need to be if your boss sends you an email on saturday, you have your phone on you anyways, yeah, I'm gonna check it and you may end up doing something and it's, and it's not that even he's saying I expect you to do this.
Speaker 1:It's just, we just do that, yeah, whereas like the restaurant, the service they provide, it's like, okay, maybe you should do it a little bit more. I'm not saying that those people shouldn't be able to be off with their family, it just means you need to hire more people to cover those. So I'm not saying those people shouldn't, you know, too bad for you. You don't get to do it, you know. I think it just depends on the profession, the field that that kind of dictates a little bit of that as well.
Speaker 2:No, I get that completely. It just feels like as a whole, like you said, we're all always available for something.
Speaker 1:Fast pace. Yeah, I mean, technology has made life way faster than what it used to be, and I think that's partly what attributes to we've talked about this before the amount of anxiety and and stress that all these people have because everything is always available, there's everything at your fingertips, like that's not always a good thing. Sometimes it's good to just kind of be in the dark of things. I do say.
Speaker 2:I get bored easy and I get that. So if things weren't as fast paced, I'd probably be bored all the time. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1:When you were a kid, you still got bored all the time, but you just went and did something different, Like it wasn't. It wasn't Like it wasn't. You know we're looking at a screen or we're watching something. It was like we went and did an activity or we went and did something else, but life as a whole was still way slower.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good times. Right, are we getting to be those old men?
Speaker 1:No, I mean I don't even think it's about, like you know, talking about the good old days, you know the glory days or whatever people want to call them. I think it's more of just there are certain things that do attribute to the faster pace or that, you know, I don't think anybody really thinks that the faster pace lifestyle is better. I just think that everybody just recognizes that's what it is, that is what it is.
Speaker 1:It's what it is and we can't really change nor control or anything with that. So, yeah, I don't again, there's no fix for that. I think it's just going to become more fast-paced. I think things are going to get more filled. I don't know what that looks like but yeah, I don't either.
Speaker 2:Curious to see because, like like you said, it's went through every. Every person has seen changes throughout their life that they never thought they'd see, so we're gonna see them too, so we've already seen changes, but I don't.
Speaker 1:When I look back at like maybe not necessarily my parents, but that generation before them, not necessarily my parents, but that generation before them we kind of had it easy for the most part as far as technology goes, because we've kind of always had it in our lives Like we we've mentioned it before Like it wasn't when I was in elementary school, like we didn't have computers. The same way, like it wasn't in every, like it wasn't a laptop and every person saying like it wasn't like that. But you think about that group that's like 80 right now. Oh yeah, the change that they've seen from the time they were young kids to now and the difference in those ones that kind of learned it quickly and the ones that never figured it out.
Speaker 2:We probably should take it easy on them when it comes to technology. We get frustrated with them.
Speaker 1:sometimes there's a few of this older group that, like they know it better than most. Like they are, that's something they enjoy. So it's really in that. But there's a lot that it's like why can't they understand that they didn't have electricity in a lot of these places? But I literally mean that in a rural area like this, that age there was a lot of these people that didn't have running water in the house and we're saying, well, they should be able to use a computer. The fact that they know what a computer is is impressive.
Speaker 2:But are we getting to that age, too, where we're starting to not understand some of the things like our kids do? To not understand some of the things like our kids do? Are we there?
Speaker 1:yet. No, but I don't think we we've not seen any drastic change to like that. Like technology has not made some crazy drastic difference, Like we can still do all that stuff.
Speaker 2:Because we were raised and grew up in it. Our three-year-olds can handle electronics, but that's just because they started sooner. No, I'm with you there.
Speaker 1:For them. Their entire life it's been at their disposal. We didn't start getting. I mean I got my first laptop before I went to college. Yeah, I don't even know. So I mean, now I had, like we had a family computer at home, but like that was a thing. You had a family computer. You didn't each person have one. Now everybody's got a laptop, everybody's got a phone, everybody's got all these things.
Speaker 2:It's at your disposal. I remember having to go to the library to use computers because we didn't have one at home.
Speaker 1:I can remember the old dial-up at home. Can't use the phone at the same time. You can't. I don't think I ever had it at my house, but horrible that I can still remember the noise when you pick up the phone and you'd hear the line. It's like why we ever thought that was a good idea because you'd have a home phone.
Speaker 1:That's the only way you could do it, I guess, but you'd have a home phone and you'd have internet, but you could only do one of them at a time. Yep so, but I mean I can literally remember going to the computer and every time you'd have to hook up to the internet, like you couldn't just always be on. Where now all of our stuff is connected to Wi-Fi literally all the time, like we never disconnect it.
Speaker 2:That's so we can be tracked all the time.
Speaker 1:Don't get me started. I know that's why I said it.
Speaker 2:You'll get us down a rabbit hole that we don't have time, for it is way too late to get you on a rabbit hole.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because that oof I got some things to talk about on that but I'm not going to go there, because that could be its own show Are you on the 5G train?
Speaker 2:Um what? 5g causes cancer or whatever. It is that a lot of these people think.
Speaker 1:No, I mean I. I mean I think technology as a whole. I think phones are horrible for us, I think they probably cause cancer. I think that's a whole separate thing.
Speaker 2:I don't know if we know what causes cancer. To be honest, with you Is cancer real? Oh my gosh. Yeah, I don't know about that one. Yeah, let's leave that one for another day.
Speaker 1:That's not a thought I have, but it's literally like with everything, someone has some type of thought or conspiracy on it.
Speaker 2:You know, we actually call ourselves a sports podcast.
Speaker 1:We do, we talk sports, we talked about sports for a while.
Speaker 2:There's not a whole lot going on in sports right now.
Speaker 1:Well, so here's the problem You're in the first round of the NBA playoffs. You can lose the championship now, but you can't win it yet. It's important, but not being huge NBA fans.
Speaker 2:How many teams are in the first round of?
Speaker 1:playoffs, now Eight ten it feels like 400. I don't know Well. So the thing is, technically they have these play-in games. It's kind of part of the playoffs, so you get like nine or ten that have potential to be in, but you have eight from each side. So 16 teams that's too, many. We say 16 is too many and we just had a 64-team March Madness. That we love.
Speaker 2:Well, no, so I even mentioned that with Will. I love all the games, but I hate the one-game playoff thing like that.
Speaker 1:So for a tournament it's different To playoff thing like that. So for a tournament it's different. To me the playoffs don't feel Theoretically, by the way they put up the bracket, it is a tournament. But when you dictate it as a playoff in its playoff series, that's very different. That's a very different thing.
Speaker 2:So we got 16. Now let's cut that to eight. I'm good with that.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean I've said before I don't feel like you should be allowed in the playoffs if you did not win more than half of your games. Like that blows my mind. Theoretically, you could have a champion that lost more than half of their games from the regular season, so what is their? That blows my mind.
Speaker 2:There's 32 teams right.
Speaker 1:Yes, so we're taking half of them. I think so Somewhere in there.
Speaker 2:Give me the top four of each side. I don't need the top eight. I don't need the team that finished middle of the pack.
Speaker 1:I don't need top four from each side, just give me the top eight. Okay, so you?
Speaker 2:don't care about that's hard because they didn't play the same teams the NBA does.
Speaker 1:Do they all? Do they all play each other?
Speaker 2:I don't know if they play the same amount of times.
Speaker 1:They don't necessarily play in the same amount of times because of the way they do their divisions, but you could, theoretically, if they did away with some of that, you could make everybody play each other the same amount of times.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, if you did that, I'm all for it.
Speaker 1:To me, if, the way it works, you want to see the best teams, then East or West shouldn't matter. I'm with you, let's do it. I mean, if that's the way you want to do it, I understand why you have East, why you have West, I understand all that, but I just, if we truly want to see the best win, give your best. There you go.
Speaker 2:Be done. If we were running these sports organizations, we would have every sport fixed. They just need to listen to us.
Speaker 1:Fixed is a rough term to talk about in sports. I don't know if you want to go with that word. I'm telling you we got ideas. Fixed means Vegas would be after you.
Speaker 2:We know what the people want. Because, we are the people. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1:I don't know that I care what the people want. I just know what I want, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:We are the people.
Speaker 1:I think you would have a drastic difference from casual fan to true fan, to like the in-depth, like big-time fan and the casual fan, because the casual fan doesn't really know what they want. They're okay with what's going on now.
Speaker 2:That's why they do it, you know. You know when your team is out you kind of don't care as much, so they don't want so many teams out like you. Still want fans to care and watch and well, you wait, you, they want.
Speaker 1:So to me, the hard part with nba, you are letting half the league into the playoffs. 16 of 32, like it's half the league. Simple, that seems like a lot college basketball we're. We're like, well, it's 64 of 300 and some odd division one teams. Like it's a big difference. Percentage wise, you're talking much, much lower, so that's why to me it feels different. So, realistically, if you have 32, I'd be okay with eight.
Speaker 2:Like your top eight. So it's, you know, Like your top eight.
Speaker 1:So it's, you know, a fourth of them. Yeah, Half is just a lot. I mean, that's a lot of teams.
Speaker 2:Because you're more than likely not going to get a team definitely not under 500.
Speaker 1:You know fans wouldn't want a third of them because that's not more than a fourth yeah, yeah, Like you know can't do those things right, I think I'd rather have a fifth.
Speaker 2:A fifth is bigger than a fourth.
Speaker 1:Well things right. I think I'd rather have a fifth is bigger than a fourth. Well, I mean, we'll just do eight and 18th.
Speaker 2:I mean like, oh, an 18th, yeah, that's huge, we're just getting there 18 is biggest right that's how that works yeah, that's the way people think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm with it, okay, I mean, as long as we're on the same page there, because you can't, you just can't do it that way, no, so I mean, I think and I'll say this kind of, across every sport We'll just talk about NBA or college basketball Across every sport, it should almost be percentage-based. This percent should get in Because, like with basketball, 16 is a lot. And I know again, like you said, I know why they do it. It's about money. It's about, you know, the more teams we let in, the more money we're going to make off of it.
Speaker 2:So I get that, but it's just not fun. You got my brain going now. Okay, I know half means half, right. Sure, I know that's what the word means. But why don't we just say a second? Because we say a third and a fourth and a fifth. Why don't we just say it's a second of it? Why do we have to change the word?
Speaker 1:Per the English language it. Why do we have to say, why do we got to change the word per the?
Speaker 2:english, english language. That doesn't make sense, I know, but see, so you could say a quarter and that still means a fourth. So why can't we say half and also say a second? I'm gonna, I'm bringing, I'm gonna start saying a second, no more half you're just gonna sound dumb no one's gonna know what you're talking about well, maybe they should. We can't just go changing words just because we want to.
Speaker 1:Like you're doing right now.
Speaker 2:No, that's how we got here.
Speaker 1:No, but like that's not a term that's used so Well, we're going to start, I'm going to start. Listen, it's the English language. Every couple of years we have a word of the year that's a made-up word.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Like that's typical. What happens? The the webster's dictionary word of the year, and it's a word that wasn't a word two years ago.
Speaker 2:If nobody's seen it, they need to see the the comedian on saturday night. Live um, nate, um, what's his name? You? Know, was it bargazzi yes, and talk about all the different words and how we're going to use the standard system set of metric and it just I don't know where it came from. They say english language is like the hardest to learn because of all the it's one stuff that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1:It's definitely one of them like you have rules and then you got a million exceptions to the rule yeah, it's like I mean the, the old one that everybody hears, I before e, except after C, except in these 10,000 iterations. It's like well, why are they? Different so why did we make that a rule?
Speaker 2:All the words that sound alike but are spelled completely different.
Speaker 1:That's the sound alike it's they're the same word, they're there and there.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking of um, I don't know, I have to think of it.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I just think, like English for anyone, that you were trying to learn English. You know English your second third, whatever language you know, the way we use so many words and not even talking about the slang of each different area, but trying to figure out what's actually meant, or then you get into words like colonel there's no R in that word. Silent letters yeah Right, the fact that there's a silent letter up front, or the way that long letters work for short, like it's just such a mess.
Speaker 2:So what I was talking about a minute ago was something like like the word dumb and the word some. You would think they'd be spelled similar and they're nothing close.
Speaker 1:But you, you look at the word bum, the word dumb the word it's like there's a million of those. It's like this is this should be one letter different. In reality, each one of those either has a, an e or, like some and some. You don't know what I'm talking about until you get context clues s-u-m or s-o-m-e, like and that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2:The other one that gets me is the ph. We got a ph to make an f sound, didn't they know we already had the letter F? Yeah.
Speaker 1:We didn't need that, I don't know. So you get into like a CH Makes sense, like that's a different noise yeah, it does. Sh a different noise.
Speaker 2:I'm all for that.
Speaker 1:TH a different noise.
Speaker 2:We don't have any letters that have those noises, ph and F.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those are the same thing.
Speaker 2:Somebody said we're going to put a P-H together to make the F sound. And somebody else was like.
Speaker 1:See, but that to me is, and I don't know, because I don't look into phonetics and I don't look into all that stuff. I don't Phonetics. Listen, you know the vocabs. We're not. We're not gonna question that's been on your toilet paper this morning. No, I ran out of that, um, but that's got to be, and I don't know why I'm gonna say this, but it's gotta be like french or something.
Speaker 2:It's gotta be something weird, like I mean, we did kind of put a bunch of stuff together because?
Speaker 1:why? Because again you have steven, there's a V or a PH, that PH don't make that same noise.
Speaker 2:No. But then I see somebody's name with a PH and to me it should be Stephan. If you're going to make it an F sound, yes, but no. If you have Stephan, you got to use the F not the PH, there's a million different ways. Now, names are unique because you can spell names.
Speaker 1:It can be whatever it it wants you can spell whatever you want, and it says this and it's like well, that's not how it works.
Speaker 2:But yes, you can do it, but trying to teach your kid how to spell the word phone and tell them, no, don't use an f right, sound it out well, I am because that's that's what they're like well, yeah, just sound it out, you'll figure it out.
Speaker 1:Not with words like that, like it's all you're always gonna put yeah, it's an f and it's no, you're wrong yeah yeah that, that one in in the silent letters.
Speaker 2:That's my two biggest. I mean there's a lot of epics in the english language, but well, but, like I said, that's not even counting.
Speaker 1:You start getting into any kind of slang, any type of shortened word, any type of, you know whatever, and then, especially in america, regional dialects. Yes, the south compared to the north compared to the midwest compared to all over I mean, and even then that's not even talking about just how they say it.
Speaker 1:They use a different word for it. So then now you have to know what this is in, like 10 different words. Yeah, like in my mind, what comes? What really I think about? Like wisconsin, michigan, some of those areas they call things so like that don't even make sense. Like you go up the street here and there's a red, yellow and green thing that shines what do you call that?
Speaker 2:Well, you know what most people call it. It's kind of stupid. We call it a red light.
Speaker 1:A red light, a stoplight Like that's. I've heard those things.
Speaker 2:It's technically a traffic light.
Speaker 1:It's a traffic light, right. Some of those areas up there are called a stop-and-go light. That's too much. That's what I'm saying. So right there, we just said like what? Four or five different iterations of what that is.
Speaker 2:The fact that we call it a stoplight is kind of weird, because it isn't just a stop Like it is a go light too.
Speaker 1:So I mean yeah, but the thing is, we only pay attention when it's red, we don't care when it's yellow or green.
Speaker 2:Yellow and green means go as fast as you really pay attention to it. Even my three-year-old's like it's red. You gotta stop, dad, and the green go well.
Speaker 1:So if you remember my, my oldest, when he was little, it was red means stop, green means go, yellow meant watch out.
Speaker 2:Couldn't tell you where you learned that.
Speaker 1:But yellow was watch out.
Speaker 2:It's like it means watch out, because somebody like me saw yellow and spit up.
Speaker 1:You floor it and yellow watch out for the stuff behind you or the stuff beside you. So yeah, I don't really know. It's like you said, English language is super, super difficult, Makes no sense, but it's what we got.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to start saying second, and I'm not using the PH as an F anymore, I'm putting an.
Speaker 1:F in its place. Don't care, how are you going to?
Speaker 2:control that when I write it, if you, if I write the word phone down, I'm putting the f when you write your, your writing is gonna look so bad because of everything that people know and you're gonna be the one that's like nope, no more phs.
Speaker 1:I am boycotting the.
Speaker 2:P-H, boycotting P-H. We're done and I'm going to start boycotting silent letters. No more, no more. If I write the word knife down, it's going to say N-I-F-E. I don't need no K, no K. I'm done with it.
Speaker 1:I'm going to write the word.
Speaker 2:So when we write saying that David is dumb, we can't put the B on there, not unless you're going to say it that way. Then you're going to sound dumb.
Speaker 1:Dumb. You say it that way because the B is silent.
Speaker 2:No, no, you either got to say the B or you got to get rid of it. Dumb yeah.
Speaker 1:Sounds even worse Horror being out here. We've got one light on at this point. The ganats are really bad, the ganats. Yeah point, the ganats are really bad.
Speaker 2:The ganats yeah, oh, it's so there may be an opossum over there. The, uh, the pano, what's that panomia? I can't even say the word pneumonia is what you're trying to say.
Speaker 1:Yeah, whatever, I don't even know how to say it with the kids because it was funny.
Speaker 2:But or bologna, you know you eat a bologna sandwich. Yeah, I'm just gonna start saying them if you're gonna put them there.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna say them well, but the thing is like bologna, like that's what it is, it's just shortened slang. Bologna, like that's that's where that comes from. Well, which there's probably a lot of people that are like what are they talking about?
Speaker 2:I drive a chevrolet.
Speaker 1:So that's one I'm actually surprised hasn't been changed over the years.
Speaker 2:It's French too, ain't it or something? Is that where that lay comes from? L-e-t.
Speaker 1:Something like that. I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's all Latin-based whatever.
Speaker 1:Again, I'm not an English major, Don't claim to be. I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. That's an old callback.
Speaker 2:Most people don't claim to be.
Speaker 1:I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Speaker 2:That's an old callback. Most people don't know that joke. That's an old callback. That or we'll leave the light on for you. That's the two I think of. That's true, I forgot about that one actually. Yeah, yeah, that was good stuff. You know, I can tell it's getting late because I'm starting to get cold.
Speaker 1:It's usually yeah, but here lately you're cold all the time. I don't like cold weather, but it's like 65. There's no sun shining. Oh, I'm sorry, I lied, it's 64. See.
Speaker 2:That's not cold. If it was 65, I'd be warm. 64, it's cold.
Speaker 1:That's kind of how you are with golf 64.
Speaker 2:During the day, sun shining, it feels great. But at night, when the sun's down at 64, it feels chilly to me.
Speaker 1:It feels the exact same to me right now as it does Like I've not noticed any difference from the time we started. From now Like it feels pretty much the same.
Speaker 2:Do we get colder as we get tired at night? Like does it change? Yeah, your body temperature lowers when you sleep. Have you ever noticed late at night the level you put your TV on, like during the day, like you'll crank that thing up, and it doesn't feel that loud. At night you put it on like two and it feels like it's screaming at you.
Speaker 1:Well, that's just because there's less things happening.
Speaker 2:I know there's less noise.
Speaker 1:I don't know You're trying to drown it out.
Speaker 2:So you go up, but it feels like even during the day, like there could be nobody in my house and I'll have the tv on. I don't know. 12, 15, whatever you know, at night 15 it's like yelling at me.
Speaker 1:We're not gonna talk about what I have the tv on.
Speaker 2:It's got to be much louder yeah, your tv's probably like 98 or something.
Speaker 1:No, it's no, and I mean not anymore. Using the those headphones has helped a ton. I mean it's it's all like six and it feels like it's loud. Yeah, like it's it's easy, but yeah, so I mean late at night, I mean your footsteps feel loud All of a sudden you're, you put a dish in the sink and it's like. Oh, I know, and Adam bomb just went off Like Just everything sounds so much more, but everything's so quiet at that point.
Speaker 2:When you get little kids, it's even worse because you're trying to keep them asleep.
Speaker 1:Well, not even talking about that side of it, but with kids there's never a quiet moment. There's always some type of noise, whether it's them or a toy, or just the hustle and bustle of everything.
Speaker 2:So then all of a sudden, when kids are completely asleep out, it's that quiet, it's like.
Speaker 1:It's like the old saying you can hear a pin drop. Yeah, I mean pretty much like, but again that pin would sound like you dropped an anvil, because it's like, oh my gosh, if I wake them it's gonna be way worse.
Speaker 2:Yeah I get it, I get it. Yeah, we once again went through a bunch of stuff a little bit of sports, a lot of other stuff if you've been with us for any amount of time. This is just ordinary it is, but again, it seems like people are more interested in the random stuff than the other sports.
Speaker 1:I mean, if you're listening and you agree with them, let us know. Let us know if not and you say, get back to sports, we'll do that too, we'll think about it. I mean, when I say I will do that, it's the same thing. I tell people out here all the time we have a uh, suggestion box. I don't know if you knew it's that trash can right there. Oh, okay, I point to that all the time. Oh, if you have suggestions.
Speaker 2:Comments concerns put it in that black box right there, a notepad on top of the garbage, can oh, I have a picture I printed.
Speaker 1:It says suggestion box and I just haven't brought it to put it on there. So, yeah, I've been telling people that for a while and I'm like, oh, you think we should do this if you'll write that on a suggestion and put it right there yeah, there's a slot right there there, there's actually four. There's one on each side. You can gladly just put it right in, it's what you want, and then I'll put it in the bigger suggestion box a little bit later, you know, aka the garbage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we bag those up and put them out there in the other box until we can get to them.
Speaker 1:Well, we will say one last thing before we close. We know we missed a week. We missed a week. We had some technical difficulties. Technically, I couldn't find my computer, so that was the difficulty. So that's that's what, that's what kind of, so not totally, but and then we're in that time of year where you're coming out of the the slow winter and all of a sudden, just everything hits.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So you just kind of got a little bit stuck.
Speaker 2:So it everything hits, yeah. So you just kind of got a little bit stuck. So it's like we'll be back on schedule very soon, one day we have in mind to record and then when something happens. We're scrambling to try to put it back together. And yes, then when we had it, we thought we had to figure it out. Tyler, all of a sudden didn't have his computer, so um yeah, yeah, just you creatures of habit.
Speaker 1:And it got put in a spot that it shouldn't have been in, and not that it was like a wrong spot, it was just like I never put it there. So then it's like, oh, I can't find it. So, yeah, but again, thank you guys for being with us. We will be on a set schedule much better as we move forward. We've got some things. Yeah, I mean, it'll be within, within reason much more than than what we were, but, um yeah, we've got some fun things looking forward to happening in the next.
Speaker 1:I want to do some more brackets we've talked about some other brackets yeah, I, I mean honestly I think the one I want to do next is a sitcom bracket, like we've started talking about some different sitcoms and for me it means I get to go back and watch some of those.
Speaker 2:I'm like, yeah, let's do that, let's do it because I want to catch up on some of those, but that to me is probably gonna have to be a longer running thing.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, because it being able to actually watch some of that, it's just so much.
Speaker 2:I think we need 64 of them, I don't know that I can name 64 sitcoms probably not, I don't know. There's probably more than we think.
Speaker 1:Oh, I guarantee there is, but I definitely don't have 64 I like.
Speaker 2:I don't either and a lot of the newer stuff that's on, like you know, HBO and those aren't sitcoms.
Speaker 1:That's different.
Speaker 2:Well, that's true.
Speaker 1:I guess a lot of new sitcoms are sitcoms Like a lot of this sitcom currently, that is a much older style. Not many people are doing stuff in front of studio audiences, not like. It's just not how things are done anymore. It's easier to do it other ways. So yeah, I mean obviously, if we do sitcoms, probably 90 if not more are going to be 80s, 90s, early 2000s yeah, I can't. Imagine much current, because it's just not the way they do things.
Speaker 2:I can think of two or three right now that I like. Okay.
Speaker 1:Well, I say yeah there's some that are still made, but they're not going to be on the list of these are some of the best. So yeah, I'll definitely reach out to Brad because he'll have some suggestions, because he's watched literally everything.
Speaker 2:Can it be animated that a sitcom?
Speaker 1:animated like the simpson.
Speaker 2:That's not a sitcom where do you count simpsons, as it's a tv show. There's a tv show okay, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1:I mean it's not really a sitcom, it's kind of like well, because I mean, like a sitcom's got to be for the most part live, live audience Okay, like that's. I mean that's part of kind of part of the way I feel that usually usually happens, gotcha, okay. But we'll start putting some of that together so we'll text Will and get him thinking of some things also. He'll probably have the same ones we have, but he's a little younger so maybe he'll have a different take on this.
Speaker 2:That's kind of my thought he probably will. Yeah, yeah, when his mom emails tomorrow, let her know that it wasn't our choice not to have him on tonight. I'm not answering that. You've got to answer that one. I don't want to have to deal with her. Okay, so she's tagged. Did you think he was mean to will on?
Speaker 1:the show or something. Um, she told me that I didn't in in her words. I didn't make him shine as bright as I should. Okay, he wasn't. And I asked how you make something so dull shine so bright? And and she didn't like that either. So I'm kind of in the doghouse there.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to let you deal with her for a bit.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I'll have to like figure out a way to get on her good side again. Okay.
Speaker 2:We got all those emails wanting him on the show and how great it was.
Speaker 1:I know so after like 15 emails, you finally like, oh my gosh, just do it. Yeah, so, um. Sorry, I didn't say that will's mom, um, but everyone but will's mom. Thank you for listening and we will see you guys next week. Thanks everybody, thanks everybody.