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From Star Wars to Tush Push: Three Guys Talk Sports, Movies, and Growing Up
Basketball, baseball, and banter collide as we welcome our first guest – self-proclaimed "special" baseball guy Will – to the podcast! The chemistry is immediate as we roast Will's Duke fandom while diving deep into what makes this year's Final Four so compelling.
Is Cooper Flagg truly the best player in college basketball despite technically being high school-aged? Has the SEC finally caught up to traditional basketball powers in tournament performance? And why do some coaches seem to get better results after changing schools? Our trio unpacks these questions with passion and surprising insights.
The conversation winds through controversial rule changes across sports, from Kentucky's baseball time-wasting tactics to the NFL's potential ban on the "tush push." We examine how NIL money has transformed college athletics and speculate on coming regulations that might cap player compensation.
What makes this episode special isn't just the sports talk – it's the genuine friendship on display as we share childhood memories about Halloween costumes, school band experiences, and wildly different perspectives on Star Wars fandom. Will's self-invitation to the podcast proves inspired as we discover common ground despite our team rivalries.
Whether you're a basketball junkie analyzing tournament brackets, a casual fan interested in sports culture, or simply enjoy authentic conversation about life's meaningful (and meaningless) debates, this episode delivers laughs, insights, and the comfortable feeling of hanging out with friends who care deeply about the games we love.
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Speaker 2:Yeah, we're back here on site again tonight.
Speaker 1:Yeah recording on site and we have our first special guest. Well, special is a strong term.
Speaker 2:Depends on how you're using special.
Speaker 1:He's a guest. I don't know if it's very happy to have him. He kind of invited himself, but you've heard us talk about him several times kind of our baseball guy. This is baseball guy Will, so Will's here today.
Speaker 3:Say hi Will, hey everybody, and I am special At what and I did invite myself Hang on at what we know. You're special what?
Speaker 2:are you special about.
Speaker 1:We're trying to find something you're good at, and we're still waiting.
Speaker 2:The views will be through the roof after this one, and it's just because of me, because you downloaded on every everything you own my playstation downloaded.
Speaker 1:My phone downloaded it.
Speaker 2:The school emails downloaded it 17 times like yeah this one's going through the roof, yeah I don't care how it makes it go, makes it go, we'll roll with it.
Speaker 1:But no, we're actually really glad to have will. We've talked for what? Three, four weeks now Like order the crap, get it in and then we'll start having guests. And was talking with will what last night last night and oh hey, your stuff came in. I'll be there tomorrow. Yeah, okay, Show up. What time show up. Uh, and it was super disorganized tonight, like this is the probably the most disorganized tonight. This is probably the most disorganized we've been, and it's of course when you show up.
Speaker 1:Because typically this is all David usually does the final couple of mics and stuff, but we're ready to go.
Speaker 2:I try to show up when it's done. I want to sit down and just talk.
Speaker 1:You just want to show up, be the diva, not have to do anything, and then just roll. That's what the big stars do, right, I mean that's what they do.
Speaker 2:I'm waiting to see the big stars.
Speaker 4:I'm just saying I see our downloads.
Speaker 2:They're not there yet.
Speaker 1:So whatever you think on that, we'll see that's it, I'm out. Bye, bye, felicia, I say it's not a hard thing to do. Mute you, like I said, I'll mute Will if he goes too hard on Duke, on Duke.
Speaker 3:Wow, that's possible.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right. Duke's up on Duke. Will is a Duke fan.
Speaker 4:Just so everybody knows.
Speaker 1:I think you'd prefer if Duke was a Will fan, that would be really cool. That would be awesome. Invited to Cameron for every game.
Speaker 4:Lindseyville out front Lindsey.
Speaker 3:That'd be great, I'm all for it.
Speaker 2:Duke's probably God. Why do you think, duke, what is wrong? Will is probably the only one here that's still watching the final four because everybody else's teams are out. I mean, I'm watching, but I'm cheering against them actively is that why we're watching? Do you think there's a lot of people watching to cheer against duke because their team's out?
Speaker 1:it's the chiefs eagles all over again. No, you don't think so we're watching to see them lose. That's why I'm watching no I don't. I don't think there's anything super polarizing about this Duke team in negative, I was going to say, I think this Duke team is almost likable.
Speaker 3:I mean you look at their makeup, but they're not the typical like Duke Coach K teams.
Speaker 1:I feel as if no Tar Heel fan my age can like them because of John Shire, Because that was like.
Speaker 3:I get what you're saying, john Shire, wasn't that polarizing?
Speaker 1:No, but the teams he was on was he had some teams. He himself was not that crazy. He wasn't something that was out there in your face. He's pretty quiet, white Mike, but some of Okay.
Speaker 2:We're just comparing, john.
Speaker 1:Shire to.
Speaker 4:We're going to get into Hurley, we're going to get into Leitner, we're going to get into all this.
Speaker 2:I do got to say. There is one thing about this Duke team I haven't seen anybody trip anybody yet, so that's been really good.
Speaker 1:We discussed that yesterday Because I actually questioned not this year but how is Grayson Allen still in the NBA? Not this year. He's played phenomenal this year. He's leading the league, he's shooting so well, but the past four years I'm like what is he doing?
Speaker 3:He defends at a high level. He does, he really does defend at a high level. I don't know what size shoe he wears, but with that shoe as he trips you as you go by, I mean that's part of it. Maybe I shouldn't have come on tonight.
Speaker 1:This is just like a bash wheel night.
Speaker 3:No, no, no your first episode.
Speaker 1:that's the way it's going to be, and then, as you're on more, it's like all right now we can just talk.
Speaker 2:No, I'm agreeing with you, though this Duke team isn't like those teams. Some of those teams were just annoying to watch.
Speaker 1:I'll say that it's not like a JJ Duke team that you actively hated them.
Speaker 2:And I think Shire's a good coach, Listen.
Speaker 3:Hubert Davis is the man.
Speaker 2:He is.
Speaker 1:If he can get good players. Every Duke player loves it because we're going to be awful for the next 15 years.
Speaker 3:I hope they keep giving him extension after extension, right?
Speaker 4:Me too, I think he should be there forever. I hope you choke on your water over there is what I hope.
Speaker 2:I'll get you another one, so you can. You see how quick this can change to somebody else.
Speaker 1:Oh, very quickly. Yeah, you're never safe on this thing. No, no, We'll get Paul here and it'll be all about Alabama, and then it'll be.
Speaker 3:How they don't settle for threes. They don't at all.
Speaker 1:And they hit what three the other night?
Speaker 2:It was pretty rough 25 of 51 in that game.
Speaker 3:Maybe NBA teams shouldn't like that.
Speaker 2:What was that but?
Speaker 1:you can't.
Speaker 3:Sweet 16 was Sweet 16.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that is not something you can do, even twice a year, like that's not a we're going to do that all the time. It's not the Splash Brothers, it's not.
Speaker 2:Here's the stat I wrote down. That was crazy to me, though. Of their first 31 shots, 26 of them were three-point attempts, so, whether you're making them or not, like they just kept putting them up.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean with talking with Paul about that. He did make a point in the fact of how BYU was covering. It is why they were shooting it, and I do get that, but I feel like they shoot it even if they're not hitting it.
Speaker 3:I mean, they made it that far, so it worked for them. Yes, Well, they defend pretty well, except against Duke just because they don't match up well with that team. That's a bad matchup, though, for Alabama. I even thought the score was 20. I really thought it was a lot closer than that. I mean, it was a six point game with eight minutes left.
Speaker 1:It was I just like what I told you before. I don't know of any team that truly matches up well in the paint with both of those guys, because Flag is not the traditional, you know the old school Carolina Twin Tower, like San Antonio used to do.
Speaker 1:Flag is a guy that can extend, can go off the dribble, can do a little bit of everything. So that's a tough matchup. And then you've got what's the other kid's name? Mala Watch. Mala Watch, yeah, he's not going to do much else other than get rebounds and dunk and block shots, but he's very good at it crazy thing about those two guys is they're both supposed to be in high school. They're both supposed to be seniors so I remember Flagg reclassified and they're like well he struggled part of the year.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because he shouldn't be here yet they're both reclassified to come to Duke early okay, see, I wasn't sure the other guy was, but I knew Flag was and. Malawach was on the Sudan national team.
Speaker 2:I do remember that actually.
Speaker 3:He got serious minutes against USA. Usa yep.
Speaker 1:Yep. I mean most of that story, though, was Flag against the US team in their practices and he absolutely showed out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he dominated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what everybody kind of remembers. Also hard because they're not playing their full potential either.
Speaker 3:They're not going full speed, but just to be able to. I agree, if you can dominate an NBA player at any extent, those guys are there for a reason.
Speaker 2:As much as I don't want to bring it up, I said they wasn't going to get out of the second round.
Speaker 4:You did make that comment.
Speaker 2:And to be honest, that was a bold statement. No, but it was based on Duke teams of the past.
Speaker 3:Well, it's because they make it so much they can't be perfect all the time.
Speaker 2:I mean Duke is either one of those like, when they get there, they're either out in the first round or they win the championship. It's like there's no middle ground for them, and so that's what. But like, what for me, like got me hooked. That makes sense. I was young enough, Like I was 12.
Speaker 3:Like 2010, I was all in and then 2015,. You kind of started having the same feelings you did in 2010. Like this team is just awesome. We love them.
Speaker 1:That's a little bit different, though, because they had really embraced the one and dones at that point.
Speaker 3:No, what I'm saying is your love for them. It just felt like yeah, I understand that which. There's no love for two.
Speaker 4:Let's just go ahead and get that out there.
Speaker 1:As a Tar Heel fan, david as a Kentucky fan, there is zero love for that team 2015 for me is the 38-0 team and then lost to Wisconsin in the final 10, which is with 10 NBA players on the line, you lost
Speaker 2:to Frank Kaminsky, that's who you lost to Sam Decker Sam.
Speaker 3:Decker, yeah, sam Decker, his most famous highlight is tripping over the ball in the NBA. That's about all he's known for, but I think that this team, as Duke fans, we're going to be really sad when this team is done playing.
Speaker 2:It is a really good, I know you're a fan, but outside of that you got them to win it all, I'm assuming no, like I have stayed steady with, like I just don't.
Speaker 3:I'm so superstitious, I'm like I pick the past, the past two rounds the past two rounds he's texted me like I've got the other team like he's literally, and I think at this point it's if I say that they'll win.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's literally the superstition. At this point, duke is playing as good as anybody right now.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately.
Speaker 3:yes, they have the makeup to do it, they have the depth to do it. They have the experience to do it as well with the transfers that came in with a lot of college experience. But, with that being said, I got you.
Speaker 1:Tournament's the tournament, for a reason.
Speaker 2:It can be wild. That's the whole point. I want to see them in Auburn again.
Speaker 3:I do too, yeah, I think that'd be awesome, See I don't?
Speaker 1:I think the best overall game right now is Duke-Florida. As far as, just like, I want to see a really good basketball game. I think Florida's playing.
Speaker 3:The Florida guards are exciting.
Speaker 1:Florida's playing good. Yes, so I don't think Florida has the depth. The same way, duke does think their five can match up with the five pretty well. That that's why I think that could be a really good game. Auburn, it's almost to me it's like all right, we've seen it. I want to, I want to see, can that next one, next one, do it? And for florida, I mean, heck, it's been a long time since they've been there.
Speaker 3:Yeah 2007 2008, the back-to-back years. Al horford, no, yeah, was that what that was? Horford brewer joe kim noah. Wow was that team and they did it back-to-back years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it was like five NBA guys. Like legit NBA guys Not just guys that made it there and didn't do anything.
Speaker 2:Since you brought that up, I saw something very interesting the other day Since 1998, every NCAA championship has come from the eastern half of the country. That is crazy to me when you stop and think about it. And only a couple even got close out there, which would be Kansas and Baylor. Everybody that wins, it is always on the east coast.
Speaker 1:See, I don't know that that feels that crazy, because you've got to think about how heavily populated, big, university-wise, the east, the south, like this whole section, is compared to once you get past 98, that's a long time. But you got to look at too, like who's been relevant outside of Kansas, who's been relevant for all this?
Speaker 2:Well, we talked about UCLA. Who? All their championships they got were from like the 70s or whatever it is 50s and 60s and 70s, but outside of that other than.
Speaker 1:Gonzaga being typically a good team, every year, there's nobody out there that you're just following, year after year after year.
Speaker 3:I think it's almost in every sport, because you'll get outdoor sports the championship winner is probably going to be from the South usually from the SEC. I think it's because in baseball and football, because you can be outside your round In baseball, there is no winner.
Speaker 1:You can be a player for 365 days out of the year, see, but that's what I don't get, though. Why are more California teams not good, like that's what everybody's like, that's the ideal weather everywhere, right?
Speaker 3:So what are we missing out there? Why are they not? There's not that many big universities out there.
Speaker 1:But you've got some of the biggest, I mean as far as.
Speaker 2:USC.
Speaker 1:And there's money and there's money. That's the thing.
Speaker 2:You would think they could recruit.
Speaker 1:UCLA has money. Those are two massive massive schools.
Speaker 2:I'm going to tell you, come out to California, I should be able to get some recruits and, like you said, and then the money on top of it Now.
Speaker 1:I mean I will say, unless you are big time at the school or in movies or something, la is not a super just great place to be. It's super expensive, not a super just great place to be. Like there's really. It's a super expensive, not a place that you're just going to go have fun and live your life without having a lot of money. So yeah, if you're one of those guys getting big and IL money, yeah, go go to LA, you'll be fine. But outside of that I don't know that there's.
Speaker 4:there's enough draw there Like to me, I don thing that's the easiest place to recruit, to recruit to ever, and they have a name miami yeah, yeah, oh exactly.
Speaker 1:They have pedigree and it's, it is miami of all places. So we've got the beach, we've got the nightlife, we've got anything you could want anything you could want, so why wouldn't you?
Speaker 4:so to me I'm like they're missing, you know, oh my gosh basketball this year was so bad.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, the coach did get up and leave.
Speaker 1:He left very early in the season, which I get it. I mean he saw the writing on the wall. Did you see who they hired? I haven't seen who they got, no.
Speaker 3:Jai Lucas Okay, duke's associate head coach.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true. He was at Kentucky a couple years ago. Yeah, he's the man.
Speaker 3:His assistant coach. Yeah, so how do you feel about that?
Speaker 2:no it I mean cal needed to go. He was with cal, I said he's kind of on the the cal side of things, so it's like I loved cal and he was good, but it was time for him to go and everybody associated with cal it was like they needed to go.
Speaker 1:It just wasn't good question how do you feel in the fact that in his first year cal matched what kentucky did, sweet 16? Well, I've said so. I know we've kind of talked about a little bit mark left mark putt left byu came to kentucky, cali, kentucky we're talking.
Speaker 2:So all three of those schools are better this year it was time for all three of them. They it helped everybody. It's one of those where you know you get a divorce and both parties are better off and that's kind of what it felt like. Well, I'm happy for cal, but I didn't want to see him keep going Well, I understand that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're like all right, you've made it far enough, let's stop there. You've done well.
Speaker 2:I said last week, it's one of those things where all Kentucky fans knew it was time for Cal to leave. But if Cal goes to win the championship, the national media and everybody is never going to shut up about it Like, oh, you can't believe you. Let Cal go, you at Kentucky anymore. It ran its course. He'll be in the rafters later.
Speaker 1:He's good, whatever, it's just time has passed Exactly, it's too fresh still.
Speaker 2:It's 15 years. That's too long at Kentucky for any coach.
Speaker 1:Well, I will say, speaking of divorces and the fact of coaches leaving, have either of you watched what's happened with Maryland?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's crazy. It's been such a mess.
Speaker 1:He just went to Villanova after. He was like I don't know what to do. But did you see who they just hired?
Speaker 3:No, buzz Williams yes, I was going to say I saw him. They ended up with a good coach, though he's solid.
Speaker 1:He's not one that you just name automatically. He's not a top-tier name that you're like oh I'm just going to go to him, Unless you've Some of the Xavier stuff. He's a good coach, he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you who did it right. Jay Wright oh, absolutely, that dude should be coaching.
Speaker 1:I just don't think he wants to.
Speaker 3:No, I think he did it right. He won the championship. He said, all right, I'm out, I'm done, and he's a great analyst.
Speaker 1:But that team he won the championship with was so good.
Speaker 3:It was hate that he won it, because you know that it was a perfect drawn-up play. Like they did it just just right. But as again, as a tar hill fan, that's hard even for marcus page to hit the shot before was insane.
Speaker 4:Oh 100. He shouldn't have hit that shot like that's a, that's a once in a lifetime like time type shot.
Speaker 2:Jay wright's not that old either, is he no?
Speaker 3:no, that's what you normally don't see.
Speaker 2:He made his money because somebody like like hurley up at yukon, he, he just went back to back. He could be like all right, guys, I'm out, go do analyst or whatever, but he's too caught to it, he never will.
Speaker 3:Hurleys will never Like his dad. Their dad was still coaching for so long in high school.
Speaker 1:Right, I mean they were into like 80s and 90s. That's all they know at that point that.
Speaker 3:His antics were just so over the top.
Speaker 1:It was no longer this like I'm kind of getting what I deserve thing. It was almost like do you know who?
Speaker 3:I am. It was like unwatchable at times.
Speaker 1:It really was, it was really hard to watch, Like when he's asking refs like don't you know who I am?
Speaker 4:It's like okay now, I really don't like you.
Speaker 1:And if you play into the villain role, like sure, that's fine, but he didn't really fully play into that either.
Speaker 3:He had America by the heart. Oh, 100%. People loved him 100%. I mean, LA was going to give him so much money the world, yeah, yeah, they were giving him anything Kentucky offered him. Blink Check pretty much.
Speaker 1:Kentucky offered him as much, basically anything he wanted.
Speaker 2:I thought, though I was like, okay, I'm glad he didn't come to Kentucky, because that would have been horrible. But, base, don't you just love it, like if he's your coach. You're like, oh yeah, that's awesome. You know, I bet, because uconn fans just love them. Yeah, but uconn's uconn's a little different, that's uh. But I don't think it matters where he's at. If he's at north carolina, you're probably like, hey, I don't mind him, like he's your coach, you know it's well, I mean so me personally, like I don't really care for that type of antics regardless, like that's just not my style, but not knowing that going into this year, if you didn't know.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I mean, yeah, if they're like hey, we've got Hurley coming, yeah, yeah, we're stoked, yeah, we're absolutely stoked. But honestly, I'll take Will as our head coach at this point.
Speaker 3:Like.
Speaker 2:I'm so anti-Hubert Davis. Is he saying you're not a good coach? Or what?
Speaker 1:No, we've had our discussion on coaches. If I was coaching somewhere, I'd drag Will by the feet and make him come coach with me, but I'm so anti-Hubert Davis.
Speaker 2:There's only one place. I don't think he knows what he's doing. If they fire Hubert Davis, I only want to see him go to Duke.
Speaker 3:That's the only it needs to be at one of those schools. The only issue I have with Carolina not issue, it's just interesting is they want to in-house, so like they're.
Speaker 1:So, carolina guy only, but there's nobody after him.
Speaker 3:I mean they should have hired west miller. Yes, agreed. I mean, if you're going to hire someone in-house, west miller's like the only one and he really wasn't that great, but he had proven himself more, at least yeah, he, he had early on a conference championship he had made it to.
Speaker 1:But there's a tournament, you know I outside of him.
Speaker 3:No, there's no one and there's no one like coming down the pipeline that, like former players, like Hansberg, didn't get into it no, no, so no, no, true Tar Heel guys coaching Stackhouse. Stackhouse was the only, but he did a AAU ball right why?
Speaker 2:do.
Speaker 3:They want to stay in house, though, like you're, carolina you're one of the blue bloods, you can get Like Duke wanted to stay in-house, yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's different though. Like they, they had options. They grew that, they like, nurtured that from the start. Like, hey, sit on the bench, you're going to move up within the bench, you're going to do this Like he learned every spot on that bench, and then Coach K personally like hey, by the way, I am now grooming you for my spot.
Speaker 3:And then he I'm going to retire, and if you don't give it to him, I'm not retiring anymore. But as long as Coach K was there they had what 40 years to get guys?
Speaker 1:50? I don't know how long he was there forever.
Speaker 2:Imagine all the guys that come through there.
Speaker 1:He's another one. We knew he was going to coach for a long time. He was not going to be a short-timer ever.
Speaker 3:He picked the right time to go, though.
Speaker 1:He did.
Speaker 2:He did as much as I dislike Duke. He might be the best basketball coach in my lifetime.
Speaker 1:I mean there's probably some guys back in the day as far as college coaches go. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2:He's a great football coach, it'd be really hard to fight.
Speaker 3:that he's really good. You can't.
Speaker 2:To keep up that success for that period of time and to evolve with the game.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's huge, but I Does the ACC have the best coaches of all time.
Speaker 3:Yes, big East could Big.
Speaker 1:East is my next one that I'd probably go to. But you look at it like Kay William Smith it runs deep.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Shire now.
Speaker 1:Now, I think Kentucky had some fantastic coaches, but I don't think the SEC as a whole did.
Speaker 2:SEC is getting a lot of the good young coaches now. They've got some fantastic coaches now.
Speaker 1:I'm just thinking like over not counting current guys, because there's nobody that really has a ton of tenure right now.
Speaker 3:I think the Big East is the only one that rivals it. I really like the idea of the Big East. It's pretty cool to me. The old Big East. Yeah, it's your conference tournaments in Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 1:Like. Syracuse going to like eight overtimes. That's what I remember of the big east like those were. Those were different days, but that was a tournament, that saint john's being really good as an acc fan like you watch acc. Yeah, and the only other term I was excited about would have been big east, because that was just felt like such a big deal and it's a different like style of game.
Speaker 3:So very much so like they will, like I mean they're like fighting basically for a rebound, like literally like oh, 100, yeah, they play.
Speaker 1:They play much more of kind of like a northern style ball Like it's physical. It's much more physical. It's much more get after it in your face style. Well, everything in North St Louis We've talked about with football 100% hockey and everything up there socially it is yeah, but I say the way the people are mentioned st john's I feel like they underperformed 100 this year.
Speaker 3:Like they had such a good team, I had them final four.
Speaker 2:No, I had them leave eight okay, uh, but if you look at the record of patino versus cal cal oh, cal owns him it's like absolutely I don't know if cal gets into his head or what it is, but they're.
Speaker 1:They're seeing it like everybody else. They've already got transfer portal stuff. Yeah, like they're already dealing with their best player entering well, the portal opened.
Speaker 2:What I can't stay around the sweet 16 games.
Speaker 1:I can't stay. Why is the portal open before the term?
Speaker 3:I wouldn't be surprised if that changes. I think it's got to it to me.
Speaker 1:It's just too much of a distraction. Yeah, I think it would because if you're still in the tournament, you can't tell me you're out recruiting right now to do.
Speaker 2:They're expecting the judge to make a decision on where schools can pay and all that stuff. And they're actually saying a lot of these players want to get signed before then because you can get a whole lot more money right now.
Speaker 1:There's money in it right now. Get your bag now, because you're not going to get it after. If the judge decides for the schools to do it the money's gone.
Speaker 2:I'm sure it will the amount of money, because then they're gonna limit what schools can spend and you gotta. I'm just curious, like is it?
Speaker 1:gonna be a blanket across the board everybody gets this or is it gonna just be like football was for the longest?
Speaker 2:alabama, texas, you know these big schools the last thing you've got tens of millions more so well, the last thing they said schools could do is supposed to be like a limit. Every school gets like I don't know what it was 20 million or something, but that's for your whole athletic department. So, as a school, you're going to decide do I want to spend more money on football or basketball?
Speaker 1:You've got a ton of football players, but that's why I think we're no longer going to see seven figures. If you make a lot of money the biggest guy is going to be a half mil. I just don't see you being two, three, four million. I agree, you can't tell me that Carson Beck is worth four million.
Speaker 3:He's not worth four million.
Speaker 1:Like the only thing he's known for right now is the fact that he had his car stolen and broke up with his girlfriend. That's all we know about him at this point, and we paid him four million to go to Miami.
Speaker 2:It should be an investment. So how does the school get their money back?
Speaker 1:Like $400 is a lot of money for one player, but I think that's why NIL currently is so ridiculous, because there's no way to get that money back. Now here's the thing. I say that. But these schools make billions. The NCAA makes billions, so they're giving pennies out but still, at the end of the day, running a business, you're not just going to hand out money if you're not getting something for it. Running a business, you're not just going to hand out money if you're not getting something for it. Because, I mean, they went and got Cam Ward, made it to the Pop-Tart Bowl. Good job, the Pop-Tart.
Speaker 2:Bowl. I mean, that's what they made Some of these bowl games.
Speaker 1:And then ended up losing because he quit at halftime. So you rented a guy for a year. Didn't win a championship.
Speaker 3:Who was really good, though, by the way.
Speaker 1:He's fantastic. I'm not doubting his skill. It's just they played in a horrible conference and ultimately just missed out on percentage points. That's it.
Speaker 2:All right, while we're on basketball, let's just jump in it. Florida Auburn.
Speaker 1:I'm picking Florida personally.
Speaker 2:Florida.
Speaker 1:I think Florida's playing really well right now.
Speaker 2:I think they're going to be tough. Auburn, I'm with the wheel. I think I got Auburn Auburn's a good this year.
Speaker 3:Auburn. Like at the SEC tournament, they were not playing well. After the second round of the NCAA tournament, they started clicking again.
Speaker 1:So Auburn's a really complete team. I just feel like Florida is hot at the right moment.
Speaker 3:Yeah, maybe I don't know. Purdue gave them a lot of problems, though.
Speaker 1:They did. But I do think that Purdue team is. They're just a scrappy, tough team.
Speaker 3:I don't think they're a great team. I just think they're super scrappy. If you don't play guys like that, it's hard to get used to it. I hate picking Bruce Pearl. I do not like him.
Speaker 2:You're not a Pearl fan I can't figure out if I like him or not.
Speaker 1:I love his energy and his passion but I I kind of don't like him as a person. I think he's like a little shady and I think that his kids, his players A little shady, a little sleazy, a little rough to cheer, for he kind of looks that way.
Speaker 3:His players. I just don't like the way they play. I don't know. They talk a lot and they talk back to him and it's part of the game now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a culture that feels a little odd. It is a super like, like who's running the show? It's not a dictatorship.
Speaker 2:But they're winning. It may not be the coaches anymore. On most teams they're the number one overall seed for a reason.
Speaker 1:Oh, correct. Yeah, I mean, but that's a team, you know, obviously this is episode 20. When we've talked SEC, some of the up-down, whatever Auburn's legit.
Speaker 2:We've never argued.
Speaker 1:Auburn is super, super good.
Speaker 2:I don't like that. They're playing another SEC school in the Final Four. I get it when you have 14 teams in they're going to happen.
Speaker 1:I'd say the problem is, the only other way is if they'd have gotten flipped and it would be Duke-Auburn or Duke-Florida right now, and I really just don't think that's the game they ultimately wanted.
Speaker 2:I think they wanted to not see two SEC teams there.
Speaker 1:They wanted to see somebody else in an SEC. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It would have been tough to have an SEC championship In their mind, but obviously what?
Speaker 1:this is the second time ever. All four number ones Like this is not a common.
Speaker 2:It is. It's not a common occurrence. What 2008? Yeah Is the other time yeah.
Speaker 1:Purple.
Speaker 2:Hill won.
Speaker 4:Oh wait no they won a nine.
Speaker 1:No they won a nine because 7-8 was Florida.
Speaker 2:Back to back. 8 was Kansas right, Because they beat Cal at Memphis, if I remember right.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was 8, right, so it was 6-7 that Florida went back and forth.
Speaker 2:Sorry, 6-7.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because that was God. Derrick Rose just so unbelievable. But Mario Chalmers played amazing. I remember that game. I watched every second of that game. That was a fantastic game, overtime game.
Speaker 3:I think going back to Auburn, people really talk about Broome and how good he is oh, 100%, and he is dominant at times.
Speaker 1:He's fantastic.
Speaker 3:He had a double-double in the first half last game.
Speaker 1:He had a triple-double and at the end they're like wait, you had a triple-double. They were kind of surprised because the double-double was so quick and the other was just really quiet. It just happened.
Speaker 3:They have these guards like Baker Mazar is, I think, unbelievable, and I think that their guard that comes off the bench, todd Pettiford, I think that, dude is the real deal. Auburn's a deep team, that's the one thing, they're old, they are old.
Speaker 1:You don't have a bunch of freshman sophomore guy like. This is an old team. They've been around. They've won ball games every year because auburn's been good for the past few years. They just not been great.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like this is the first like great auburn team and it's like to me too, like I want duke or houston to win it, like I have houston. Are you anti-scc? I, I have like this weird thing with sec where I'm like they're getting good at basketball and I kind of I just kind of want to be like listen, like this is your thing.
Speaker 1:I feel the sec was overrated all year.
Speaker 3:I do too. I also think, the middle of the pack sec was such a, I just really want to be like listen but when you see your thing stick to football.
Speaker 1:Let the acc big east Just dominate basketball, yeah. But the thing is Like the ACC Better start getting good, I know, because outside of Duke there is no good team, wouldn't.
Speaker 2:ACC have Seven in Sweet 16 or something.
Speaker 4:They did.
Speaker 2:It was Like, I mean, they hung around a while ACC, no SEC, no SEC.
Speaker 3:But here's the thing when you go back and look, Missouri was Probably shouldn't have been there.
Speaker 1:Georgia shouldn't have been there. Some of the teams that they got in were not like Texas was not a good team.
Speaker 2:I think the top six was pretty legit, and then Arkansas got good at the end?
Speaker 3:Do we really know? Because the problem is they just beat up on each other all year. Now they did win the ACC-SEC challenge.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. When they got, in the tournament they hung on pretty good.
Speaker 1:This is the one year that you say, okay, that doesn't even matter, the ACC was so bad this year, yeah.
Speaker 3:Across the board. Yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 1:Clemson was a team that should have done better in the tournament than they did. They played such a bad half of basketball.
Speaker 2:But you don't think is there a chance? Acc is down because ACC is growing so much.
Speaker 1:I don't think so. I literally think it's the fact of the ACC doesn't understand NIL yet I mean, I could see that. The fact, like Carolina, one of your biggest programs in the country, doesn't know how to do NIL, and that's a shame Cooper Davis just finally hired a general manager for the program. But what took so long? I know Like, if you know you're not good at that preseason, we've got to have something. He's figured it out.
Speaker 3:Now let's look at the tournament SEC teams Texas A&M Obviously Auburn's still in it, so they push through. They beat Ivy League Yale by nine Correct. Then they lose big to Michigan Correct. Ole Miss beats a bad Carolina team, A very bad Carolina team. They beat a bad Iowa State team A very bad Iowa State team, not a good. Iowa State team without their best player.
Speaker 1:No, so I'm not crazy. I wasn't sold on anybody. So the Big 12 to me felt like the ACC this year, houston, and then everybody else yeah, and they weren't very good Duke, and then everybody else for ACC. It's felt that way from the start of the season.
Speaker 3:Ole Miss then loses to Michigan State in a close game. So props to Ole Miss.
Speaker 1:I think Florida made it through, yeah, but again that's part of that top four of the ACC, we said could play in any league. They're just good, the four could. We said that from very early on though.
Speaker 3:Missouri loses to Drake by 10. Yep, arkansas makes a run. I still think that St John's is better.
Speaker 2:I think Arkansas got good at the end of the year. They kind of put it together.
Speaker 3:Mississippi State loses to Baylor, and that is Vanderbilt just loses to St Mary's. Yeah, Vanderbilt was there Bama makes a run, so we're talking about three or four teams. Kentucky, four teams we're talking about four teams. That and then Tennessee. So five, five teams out of that league that made a little bit of a run. So to me that's a top-heavy league 100%.
Speaker 2:No, I get your point. Like I said, I watched them a lot because of Kentucky. I think they were pretty good.
Speaker 1:But you're also watching. You're watching them play each other. That's kind of a watch. That doesn't mean anything at that point.
Speaker 2:We can nitpick everybody about you lost to this team, beat that team in the tournament, but for that many to keep moving, so I was curious.
Speaker 1:But I think when you look at SEC non-conference play, they played no one Outside of the top five teams.
Speaker 2:But you can't say you know, if you win the tournament, you're a champion. And the teams that made it all the way into Sweet 16, oh, they played, nobodies.
Speaker 1:But you can, though. That's the thing. The fact of the draw Like Ole Miss doesn't make it that far, unless you play to their place. I was curious.
Speaker 2:When 14 got in, I was like okay, like okay, how many is going to move on? I think I I said eight or something like that. Eight went to the next round and you had seven go to sweet 16 and I think you had what five move on, something like that. It was four or five, whatever it was.
Speaker 1:The five is not the argument like the, the top five of that's kind of like all right, like yeah, they've been good, but when you have 16, teams.
Speaker 3:You had three in the elite eight, two went through.
Speaker 2:I'veano lost yeah, but you can't expect 10 to get there. Like what are the? I mean, look at the other conferences. They don't have anything even close to that.
Speaker 1:So I mean this year. No, I agree, the acc has done it for no. No, but that's what we're talking about this year yeah this year sec was better overall than than every other conference oh, without it I, that's all I'm saying. Top of of it was. Top of it was. I don't think their middle of the pack would have lost in the Big 12. They would have lost probably the Big 10, and they would have 100% lost anything up with UConn St John's.
Speaker 2:That was a good conference. Arkansas would have been top three, four in ACC and they were 10th in ACC.
Speaker 1:So ACC, you can't count this year. That's the one thing. There's nobody there.
Speaker 2:No, I get what you're saying, but I'm just saying if we're comparing conferences In the Big 12, they're like sixth, I would say towards the end of the year.
Speaker 3:Acc was relatively pretty, it was solid. I mean Wake Forest I thought was a good team Legitimately. I thought Clemson was a good team.
Speaker 1:Clemson was better than what they produced.
Speaker 3:But Clemson's also not used to being in the tournament. They've had one good run.
Speaker 1:They've had one good run in like 10 years.
Speaker 3:I thought Louisville was good. I thought Louisville should have had a better seed than they got.
Speaker 2:I think so too.
Speaker 1:Well, that hurt them bad.
Speaker 3:Getting an eight was tough, I think, beating them in the tournament without flag, I think, hurt them and the ACC oh 100, because it losing to that team the way they did without the best, really the stud like it. Yeah, so that's like okay, so who's who is? I bet I know who you're gonna say, david, but who is the national player of the year basketball?
Speaker 2:national player of the year.
Speaker 3:I think, flag. It's gotta be flag or broom yeah, so that's, and that's what the big debate is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I think to me you go either way.
Speaker 3:Who do you think I was going to say? Broome, because he's SEC.
Speaker 1:I don't think I argue, though either way. No what's weird, though, I think, statistically they've put the numbers up. Here's the thing.
Speaker 3:Kentucky fans typically don't pull for SEC, because SEC no and it's not.
Speaker 2:So I'm not really like, oh it's SEC kind of guy. I just really thought they were good.
Speaker 1:I'd pull for ACC minus Duke.
Speaker 3:I don't think it's for ACC period.
Speaker 1:But the ACC doesn't have the same rivalries Like the SEC has, like the rivalries outside of Carolina Duke Because of football they run so deep Like it is a hatred-filled league because of football.
Speaker 2:But you made a comment SEC, stick to football.
Speaker 1:I don't mind that, because I want Kentucky to be back on the top every year, I know, but now they're competing, I would say yeah, for so many years it was Kentucky and everyone else.
Speaker 3:Baseball-wise, SEC is the most dominant.
Speaker 1:Without a doubt. Without a doubt, they are stacked from top to bottom.
Speaker 2:Let me ask you this because I just saw this the other day. It was Kentucky.
Speaker 3:all this, the other day and it was kentucky who was it?
Speaker 2:texas, they stalled the game, basically it was kentucky texas tech yeah, texan m. So what do you think?
Speaker 3:about it. So we actually talked about it today before our game.
Speaker 2:Our staff, a couple of us well, if everybody don't know. I don't know if you've seen it, tyler- I haven't seen it.
Speaker 3:I guess there's a rule.
Speaker 2:Explain the rule, because I don't understand the rule completely, like the time or whatever there's like I can't remember the name.
Speaker 3:Off the top of my head it's like a daylight rule where kentucky for travel purposes they have to leave by a specific time okay whatever okay. So, um, when it hits that time, sec bylaws, game's over. It's like a time limit, no more.
Speaker 1:It's like it's basically, literally, it's only time limit. Third game of the series right. So basically you've got to get on the road to get back where you're going, because it's Sunday, or something I think you've got to get to class so.
Speaker 3:Kentucky stalled in every way shape or form, so what they did is mountain visits. They were taking like having guys step off.
Speaker 1:Question is there a limit on mountain visits in college like MLB?
Speaker 3:Yeah, Okay, and it trickles down to high school.
Speaker 1:Do they have a pitch clock?
Speaker 2:I wasn't sure what they were doing. Okay, so they do have a pitch clock so they were just taking every second on the pitch clock.
Speaker 3:They would burn the pitch clock down. Then the catcher would use one of their timeouts to go talk Offensive meetings. You get three in college. No, you get two in college baseball, okay, throughout a game, gotcha, where you can call time. You get like a minute and a half you can talk to the batter about whatever you want. So they burned everything. So they were burning everything they've got and not only were they doing that, they were changing pitchers.
Speaker 1:So like when you change pitchers, because then you get warm-ups, you get all the time in between, and so so they're burning everything they've got Heated, heated and it wasn't really a close game.
Speaker 3:It was a seven-run game. It was 10-5. Yeah.
Speaker 2:If it was one point, I'd be really mad. Yeah, does that make a difference to you or are you okay with it, since they're in the rules?
Speaker 3:We do it in some ways, not with necessarily ending games, but for example, I have a guy in the bullpen that is warming up. He needs more time to get warm. I'll send the catcher out to go talk. I'll wait for the umpire to go get him. They'll walk all the way back. I'll go out. I'll call time, use my mound, visit. I'll wait until the umpire comes out. Then we go back again. Guy steps on the rubber. I call time, I slowly walk out and then I put the guy in and really we.
Speaker 2:I call time, I slowly walk out and then I put the guy in and really we get like you could get like up to like 10 to 15 more pitches in the bullpen to get ready, really get your arm activated.
Speaker 3:And so I actually like it. I think it's, it is Well real quick.
Speaker 1:For those of you who don't know, will is the head baseball coach at Brevard High School.
Speaker 3:The manager yes, sorry. The head manager, the clubhouse manager?
Speaker 1:yeah, he's the clubhouse manager, they don't really have a clubhouse. They're kind of poor, they're trying to figure it out, but no they've excelled a ton from what it was, Like you've really brought the team forward in technology, like trying to move forward, Like hey, we've got to be modern.
Speaker 3:If we're going to succeed, we've got to be what everybody else is doing so.
Speaker 1:I think they've done a great job with that. But just for those that don't know, he is the manager of the baseball team here. So that's where we're going with that discussion, not just.
Speaker 2:He's doing this in Little League, so you're okay with what Kentucky did then yeah, I am, so should the other. I still feel like even if it's okay, it's still okay for Texas A&M coach would be mad, right? I mean, I wouldn't want it either.
Speaker 1:But I think, as the other coach, you have to be Like, you have to be mad At that point. That's your job.
Speaker 3:And it does like toe the line of like integrity of the game a little bit, but I feel as if baseball is like it's chess.
Speaker 2:I honestly thought you'd be like. I hate that, no.
Speaker 1:I feel Will is all for that, because it is so much that, just like you're always trying to bend the rules of baseball, it's whatever you can do.
Speaker 3:We say it all the time it is so hard to win baseball games. Everything has to go right. It is so hard to get wins in any sport. It's so hard to win. One loss can be the deciding factor between a regional and being at home 100%.
Speaker 2:I think even Kentucky being up 10-5. And Kentucky's not playing well right now, that can swing quickly in baseball Anything they can get.
Speaker 3:Kentucky's not playing well right now and they have a really good team, so I think that they're just trying to get something kick-started.
Speaker 1:But then too, I feel it's different college compared to the pros. Well, the pros is just the length of season. You don't have the opportunities the same way that you do, which I mean you've got to shrink the MLB schedule 162 games.
Speaker 3:It is so long, so long I think you don't shrink it under 100, but I think you can get to 100.
Speaker 1:I think anything. 100 to 110,. You've already done a better job.
Speaker 3:And what's crazy to me, though, like I'm a Cubs guy Dansby, like he plays every game. Yeah, yeah, he's not. Can you imagine what it should be playing?
Speaker 1:162 straight games. Go back to cow ripken. Go back to a guy like that.
Speaker 3:He's like I never missed a game you don't see load management much, and then and then you get anthony rendon, who's missed more games than he's played and has made a bank off of it.
Speaker 2:I'm sure you're a hardcore fan, especially if you live close to Chicago, cincinnati, where all these teams are playing LA, whatever. You're probably into it the whole season, but I feel like an average fan, even if you try to get into it halfway through, you're kind of starting to check out.
Speaker 3:You've been through so many games. I don't know if baseball really cares about the average fan. It doesn't. I think they make that fairly clear. I don't think they, I don't think they care, I mean.
Speaker 1:So I think they I think they've made some rule changes to try to cater to it to an extent yeah with the whole. Let's speed up a game. Our base guard game time has now gone to like a two-hour game. Like really shrunk that down, but for me that almost feels like it's more for TV than it is for the actual fan Cause they're wasting so much money on commercials, correct?
Speaker 3:I also like they put opening day the same day as sweet 16.
Speaker 1:They did.
Speaker 3:So, obviously, I think that the standard, though, for pro, like a pro sports team, is NFL. You look at what the NFL is doing. They were doing it right. Like they are making so much money, they're appeasing the average fan.
Speaker 1:I'm not a football guy, but I watch the NFL. See, that's the thing. Neither of us are really big NFL fans. Now I will say I watched more NFL this year than I have in a long time.
Speaker 3:It felt a little bit better this year. Roger Goodell is doing a good job. I hate him, but I think he's doing great.
Speaker 2:I think it's because I enjoy college football so much. It's not that I hate the NFL, but you saying that, I get your point 100%, because they are doing a lot.
Speaker 1:I'm just a college football guy. Well, speaking of the NFL, the big thing coming out, currently up for vote. They started to vote it, they tabled it, they're going to revisit it when owners meet in May. Tush, push, tush, push. What's your stance?
Speaker 2:Because there's only one team doing it tush push meaning you can, whoever has the ball, you can push them in the back, so technically but really only one team is actually doing this play because so they changed the rule in 2005.
Speaker 1:You used to not be able to push a ball carrier correct at all, like you weren't allowed to get behind him.
Speaker 2:Is this getting rid of that completely, or just that one? So?
Speaker 1:I think that's kind of the argument right now is should we go back to the 2005 language or, excuse me, 2004 and prior language, or do we rewrite it altogether?
Speaker 2:Because now you can see a lineman grab a running back and like pull him across the first down line and things like that.
Speaker 1:I don't have an issue with, like you, pushing a ball carrier. Personally, I don't have an issue with the whole tish push play. My view is they figured it out. Figure out how to stop it. Like all they do is bring a rugby guy in. Yeah, I don't have a problem, hire your own guy. Figure out what you got to do. It's leverage like that's. That's literally all it is. So figure out what it takes. And they're also saying it's the first time in history they've brought something to a vote because of one team. Like typically there's like like five, six teams doing something. We've got to stop this, change the league.
Speaker 2:This is for one team, saban complaining about teams running fast.
Speaker 1:He did complain about the no huddle for a long time.
Speaker 2:But then he got with it, started doing it himself, started figuring out how to stop it.
Speaker 1:What I found funny about this is the team that brought this up was the Packers. They are the ones that wrote this like hey, we got to bring this to a vote.
Speaker 3:I think Green Bay's got a bigger fish fry than the Tish.
Speaker 1:That's kind of my thought Like why are you worried about Philadelphia, Like you have already lost, if you're worried about Philadelphia, you need to worry about your quarterbacks.
Speaker 2:Maybe they need to look at that and go, hey, we should try that a time or two, maybe that'll teams have tried, but I think they're.
Speaker 1:They're trying to copy the Eagles instead of figure out how you actually because no one else has John hurts oh, a hundred percent. That's a good point, he, but he is absolutely overlooked by everyone.
Speaker 3:Like they win because of him. He is a winner, just what he is, he's good, he's done it everywhere. 580 pounds.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's an.
Speaker 2:NBA game up here and I'm so tired of seeing walks in the NBA. I'm so anti-Gather step.
Speaker 1:I just saw it so much. That was no Gather step.
Speaker 2:That was like three steps.
Speaker 1:So me and Will have had this discussion. He's like oh, you're just old and you like the old brand of basketball. I just think Gather is ruining actual good moves. That's how I feel about Gather.
Speaker 2:If you want Gather, fine, but they're still taking three, four steps, most times, even with the gather.
Speaker 1:Partly, that's just officiating. I don't think officiating is strict enough on anything, though.
Speaker 3:The NBA is in a bad spot, I'll be the first to say I agree with that. I think everybody agrees with that. All of the reasons why we complain about it. I want to see the most skilled athletic guys playing basketball known to man. I don't want to see Larry Bird playing. I don't want to see that.
Speaker 1:But I think the reason we complain about it is because the NBA is in such a bad spot.
Speaker 3:So at this point you're like I'm going to nitpick everything because, they are not doing much well, I don't want to see Bill Lambert.
Speaker 1:That's not cool to me. No, I want to see vignana like shooting 40 footers and blocking guts at the rim like yeah, so I? I have no problem with the athletic play it's. I'm not a fan of the sga. Let's draw a foul on every single play, like I would rather you just play ball, like I think sga is. He's a fantastic player, but he's getting to the point, like he's now known for foul baiting every single play.
Speaker 3:But if you can't defend it and he gets to the free throw line, I would do the same thing.
Speaker 1:But look how many times though refs are calling on a reactive move Like oh, I threw my head up and they call it.
Speaker 2:That's what I don't like I think officiating is a point.
Speaker 3:The game is moving too fast.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Speaker 3:I watched the Add more officials.
Speaker 2:Which game was it the other night? To me it's like that's an easy fix. I think it was a college game block charge Both officials, One called block, one called charge. They ended up doing a double foul on both teams.
Speaker 3:I don't like. How can that be? That's a badless job. Oh, 100%. I think the people that do it. I don't know how people do it.
Speaker 1:It's a job I don't want in any way, shape or form I would not be good at it.
Speaker 3:And I'd like never want to complain about officiating, but the NCAA tournament this year has been horrific, Like the officiating then like for the officials.
Speaker 1:It's getting bad. There's one official I know that has his name on his chest. Would you advocate for him? No, I'm not going to use his name, but you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3:He might be coming out here.
Speaker 1:I've never seen him here. I've seen him at a local course, but I've never seen him here. He's a member there, of course he is. He's not welcome here. I can tell you that, like I was, just like, I don't want his money I was watching the duke arizona game.
Speaker 3:Duke was up 21 and like it just felt like the officials were really trying to get this game back and try to make.
Speaker 2:Try to make it worth watching ticky, tack ticky but is that sports betting? Is that what's causing that? Yeah, I think sports betting is going to ruin it might. I mean, I enjoy sports betting a little bit just for the fun of it.
Speaker 3:We're talking about getting lucky for Brevard High School baseball. That's sad. I'm just kidding we're not doing that.
Speaker 1:But the problem is though, like high school sports are being bet on nowadays.
Speaker 4:No, I mean.
Speaker 2:I think they always have been. I was going to say they have been a long time.
Speaker 1:Yes, but like to a, not just the backroom bets.
Speaker 2:I think you said there's a little insider click.
Speaker 1:There's too much like with your big schools not talking this level. No.
Speaker 3:But your no one's betting on the Rosman Right, but you're.
Speaker 1:Texas high school football.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're betting.
Speaker 1:That is becoming like a true business now, not just the little betting that's always happened.
Speaker 3:Well, look at their stadiums, I mean.
Speaker 1:They're bigger than most college stadiums yes, I agree.
Speaker 2:How much easier would it be for me to get to the local high school football coach and slip him a little bit of money so I win this game, because it's bet then for me to get to? You know, nfl guy, I can get these local guys easy, so I think you can throw these games so much easier and nobody would bat an eye because it's high school sports things happen no big deal.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know. I just hope it never gets to the point where I mean sports are. Just look at how our country views athletics in general. Look how we paid them. It's everything.
Speaker 1:The way they are paid. We obviously think more highly of that than we do many other things.
Speaker 3:No, I mean you look at athletes.
Speaker 2:Except WNBA. I got both of y'all on that one. I don't really want to get into it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's a whole different thing.
Speaker 3:We put athletes on a pedestal 100%. I even tell my players all the time people look to you differently 100% Just because you're an athlete. It's crazy that it works that way. It was like that when I was playing in college. People are always looking at you because we like idolize it.
Speaker 1:We idolize everything you do. Good or bad you are, you are viewed differently.
Speaker 3:I think that's it's like a little sad.
Speaker 1:How so.
Speaker 3:Like that we as like we idolize athletic events like what it's a game, it's a game.
Speaker 2:And like it is a game, but some of these people put a lot of time and energy and like it's everything to some of these players, so do all of us, in our careers.
Speaker 1:It is, but that's where my frustration comes into NBA, this whole load management thing. I'm not going to play back-to-back. You're paid to play a game for a living.
Speaker 3:I can't stand that. But what happens? Okay, for example, Steph Curry is going to load manage this year, and if it wasn't for load managing, then he's going to win an NBA championship.
Speaker 1:It's not prime Curry though.
Speaker 3:I'm saying in prime Curry years, Whoever LeBron when he was with the Heat, he load managed and he attributes a lot of them winning because he was able to rest.
Speaker 1:Also a little different when you have three Hall of Famers on one team Makes it a little bit easier.
Speaker 3:Pick any modern NBA champion Like Kawhi Leonard. He is a prime example of load management. He was the first load management and when he was in Toronto he load managed and then they won when they weren't even supposed to. And if I'm a GM and I can say well, kawhi leonard can play all 82 games or he can play 60 and we wouldn't be, so I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't have a problem with you saying I'm the same way you take like 10. You take 10 games off the season. That, to me, is different than some of these guys that literally will not play a back-to-back ever. That, to me, though, is the difference in like I don't feel missing 10 games is load management. Like in everybody's job, you take a day off.
Speaker 2:But does it come back to just the season's too long? Fix that, and you don't need load management 82 is a little different.
Speaker 3:I feel like the NBA season's too long.
Speaker 2:I do too. That's what I'm saying. If you bring it down, you may not need load management, okay.
Speaker 3:The problem is you shrink schedules Correct, they lose money.
Speaker 2:That's why they're all that long. Too much money and fans keep paying, and also as a sports fan, I don't want to have these dead periods of no sports.
Speaker 1:The NBA makes so much money, Whether they're in a good spot or not.
Speaker 3:there is so much money moving around the NBA In June, when the only thing on is a 1 o'clock game for the Cubs, I want to be able to say hey, game six of the finals is tonight.
Speaker 2:Correct Summer is the hardest part in sports like that it is, but it's a hard time in sports but it's also the time that you're doing the most.
Speaker 3:You're busy, so you don't feel like you have to have it. I'll tell you what, though. When we're in olympic year, though, I am locked in in the summer, oh 100, I'm watching every team. You, I'll, I'll wake up early whenever in beijing I'll wake up at 4 am to watch team usa play watch them curling or something yeah like I'm talking about winter olympics, though I, yeah, my bad, I don't even watch.
Speaker 1:I don't feel that way about winter Olympics.
Speaker 3:I don't watch the Olympics at all. I only watch team USA basketball. That's it Really.
Speaker 1:I, oh, I'll watch. I'll watch everything. I just think it's fun.
Speaker 3:I fell in love with team USA basketball when I was a kid, when I got the 08 redeem team right and like. Ever since then I've been with them when they lost in 2019 or 2020, when they lost in the bronze game. Like that's the only thing I'll turn on anymore. Like I'll watch the winter olympics because I think some of that stuff's really cool.
Speaker 1:But well, we're trying to go full circle real quick, because we did talk about auburn, florida, duke hou, duke, houston, we skipped around.
Speaker 2:I know we'd come back to it, trying to weave it back somehow.
Speaker 4:I was thinking about it.
Speaker 1:I want to get to that final, because there are a few other things I want to get into, but I want to kind of wrap that up to an extent.
Speaker 4:We made our picks.
Speaker 1:You guys were both Auburn.
Speaker 2:I'm saying Florida were both Auburn, I'm saying Florida Duke-Houston.
Speaker 1:I hate to say it.
Speaker 2:I think Duke wins it. I feel that way.
Speaker 1:I feel Duke as well, but I'm also at this point I'm looking for the best basketball game, and to me, I think the best championship is Duke-Florida. I think that would just be a fantastic game. But I also feel the way Duke is playing right now. I don't know that anybody beats them. I just feel like it's really hard for them to lose right now. They'll just have to have a really bad night, but the way they played against Alabama looked dominant, like it was absolutely dominant. They're good From there, though. I know you guys said Auburn-Duke, I said Duke-Florida. Who do you have winning it? Who's your pick from here?
Speaker 2:That's tough. I think it's going to be a really good game. I really do.
Speaker 1:So for you guys, Duke-Auburn, we've seen that once this year. It was a good game, but that was fairly early.
Speaker 2:I think both teams are better now than they were then.
Speaker 1:I think they're infinitely better. Yeah, I don't think it's the same game. I think we're going to see two very different teams.
Speaker 3:I mean I know Two complete teams, Duke's playing a whole different lineup.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that was the early Duke still that I felt like they weren't really running much offense. They had started to, but it was still very like a little more ISO style play.
Speaker 2:And then they got this Are you still going?
Speaker 1:to say no. No, he's superstitious, he's going to pick anyone at this point. Florida's winning it all, even saying Auburn. He's like I'm trying to get my two teams there and how can I make this work? I personally think at this point, duke-florida. I think it could. I don't want to say I think Duke wins, because I'm going to cheer for Florida, but I think this Duke team is tough. I think it's going to be a really hard year for them to lose, I'm the same way.
Speaker 2:I'm going to cheer for Auburn or Florida, whoever's there.
Speaker 1:I think it's going to be Auburn. I'll do the same.
Speaker 2:Whoever's there I'm going to cheer for there's a good chance Duke wins it.
Speaker 1:I mean, they're the most complete team. I feel like in their depth what's?
Speaker 3:the kid I talked about him the other night. White kid Conn Knipple.
Speaker 2:Knipple. How can you forget Knipple, such a unique name?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I just don't want to feel like saying Nipple all the time, but I feel a guy like him is why they truly win. Yeah, like not their best player, probably not their fourth best player potential like he's. He's so useful in so many ways, that's why he's so good, but he's not the guy that you're just like.
Speaker 3:That's who's gonna be and you can I mean he's old, beyond his years, he could do so.
Speaker 3:So much, he's a mature kid he can do so much, I think I mean, he's what controlled that, that alabama game, like his defense, his play, his everything, the only thing that I don't love like, okay, on paper, duke, they have the makeup, they have the older guys mixed in with a lot of young talent, sure, the only thing that is like they don't have a ton of depth and they play like a seven, eight man rotation, and those you know, like the isaiah evans kid, correct, has his minutes have completely dropped um to where he got in for two possessions against Alabama.
Speaker 2:So foul trouble is how you beat them, but how deep is?
Speaker 1:Auburn and Florida. Are they more than eight?
Speaker 3:men, I think Florida's deep. I think that Florida played their same five at the end of the game against Purdue, but I think they're too deep everywhere.
Speaker 2:Is it just me, or is that truck really loud?
Speaker 1:It's got some bass to it.
Speaker 3:I'll give it that. Sounds like my truck.
Speaker 1:Does it.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, kind of beefy yeah, did somebody cut out?
Speaker 4:your catalytic converter. Your truck should not sound like that.
Speaker 1:If your truck sounds like that, please go take a look at that.
Speaker 2:I can't see it from here because it's dark out there, but when the door shut it had that old-style truck sound like click. Oh, it's an old truck, is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1:that's my league partner over there.
Speaker 2:Oh, is it really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he had to drive that. I don't know.
Speaker 4:I think he wrecked his truck today, or?
Speaker 1:something, so he was driving the old one. So, yeah, he pulled up in that thing late and I had to give him a hard time.
Speaker 2:I like a good old truck. Some of those are good.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, but steel body, that's a whole different ballgame. You start putting the old like well-built, fully metal body trucks.
Speaker 2:that's different. I think I'm going to rev it up over there in a minute, All right. So I'm saying Auburn-Duke, You're saying, I'm saying Florida-Duke and I'm unfortunately picking Duke.
Speaker 1:I'm unfortunately picking Duke. I'm going to cheer for anybody but him.
Speaker 2:I'm the same way.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say Duke wins it, but I'm going to cheer hard for Auburn and obviously Will's not going to say Duke.
Speaker 4:As a fan. He wants.
Speaker 3:Duke I mean as a fan of your team. Obviously that's who you want.
Speaker 2:I would do about anything.
Speaker 1:Root against them. I would say at this point you were actively picking against them. I think Shire deserves this. One Deserves is a strong word?
Speaker 3:No, I think he does. I think he's coach of the year.
Speaker 1:I think this guy is the best coach in college basketball. I think I'd be surprised if anybody but him wins coach of the year. I think there's a few potential dark horses. Getting St John relevant again, I think puts Patino few potential dark horses, I mean. Getting getting St John relevant again, I think puts Patino up there for that it's especially he's been around like the man can coach.
Speaker 3:He's done it how many succession plans have worked very few.
Speaker 2:I get coach of the year if they win the championship. What he's done, but he's also got Cooper Flagg, so which is why he should be coach of the year, but as I say he got him.
Speaker 3:Who else got?
Speaker 2:him. Yeah, I mean Rooker is part of it and the thing is, look at who you're competing against.
Speaker 1:The guy's from Maine, like all of those schools up there, are going after him so hard.
Speaker 2:I like to see coach of the year, somebody that took a team that you didn't and get to the end. It's been really good. Even the.
Speaker 1:St John's team like you said Rick Pitino. Yeah, but St John, I think we all saw that coming After last year. It was like, hey, st John's getting ready to be relevant again.
Speaker 3:Who did more with less. I mean I understand where you're coming from yeah, that's kind of the thought.
Speaker 1:So I get that, but I also think, though, you have to look at who got that team there.
Speaker 3:No, I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like you recruited that Shire doesn't have the name Patino does? Patino walks in your house. You know who that man is. He's been around forever. He's won a championship. He's been at Kentucky.
Speaker 3:He's been at Louisville. We're turning the page on that, like we're turning the page on the Patinos the Calparis. It the Peyton, the Patinos the Calparis. It's like a new age of coaches.
Speaker 1:No, I agree, I agree with that.
Speaker 3:I agree with that I think Shire's going to be the trailblazer of that.
Speaker 1:You know I wouldn't mind even as much as I hate Louisville, pat Kelsey did a pretty good job with what he had to have no team and come in there and put it together like that.
Speaker 2:Well, I can't remember the about Mark Pope too, but Mark Pope did great at BYU.
Speaker 1:I think Mark Pope's just a good coach.
Speaker 2:He never won a championship game there.
Speaker 1:No, but it's BYU. He's very A little different.
Speaker 2:Mark Pope dropped out of school to be a surgeon or something to go start coaching. He was three years in, or something like that.
Speaker 1:He's a smart dude. I think he has the mind for it. I just think he didn't have the team for it.
Speaker 4:No, I agree.
Speaker 1:There was no skill. I say there's no skill there. There's no Kentucky-level skill at that school currently.
Speaker 2:Well, that's where I think Louisville come from. Nothing the past couple years where Kenny Payne was there.
Speaker 1:Let's say what two years ago they lost to an NAIA school. That should never happen. Your third string should beat them.
Speaker 2:No. So to come back from what they've had and to do that, I think that's a pretty good year. But I get the point If you go in the championship and you've got a team like Duke has, I can't argue it either, to be honest with you Well.
Speaker 1:so again, I don't want to see anyone at Duke win anything, but yeah, I feel like it would be hard for him not to win coach of the year.
Speaker 3:No one's won more games in their first three years than John Shire has.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he just broke the record against Alabama, right? So yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2:Well, this is the time. You know that first year or two you're like, okay, well, he's getting the leftovers, but they're starting to, he's starting to get in his own time now.
Speaker 1:Well, now it's K team. This is a fully his guys.
Speaker 2:I think that changes a little bit too, though, because of transfer portal, because guys can leave every year if they want, so it's not like he just got left to these guys, he still has to keep them there, so it is a little different than what he used to be.
Speaker 1:Well, so I think he loses a ton of this team.
Speaker 2:But I don't think it's transfer portal.
Speaker 3:it is going to be the no but now he can load back up in the transfer portal instead of relying on freshmen and who wouldn't want to go there right now? You'd be stupid not to who wouldn't want to go there with the nil money that they have poured into, because all the other sports well, that's that's for now.
Speaker 1:Like the thing is that nil money is going to change, we talked about that.
Speaker 2:I don't know how this works because they're private school, so they don't even have to say what they're paying anybody. They probably don't have to say what they're going to pay players either.
Speaker 1:Correct, but I think some of that, once that gets signed off, is going to be conference-wide. I think the conferences will adopt it.
Speaker 2:They're going to have to make them.
Speaker 1:And if so, it's going to be all right. Duke, even though you're private, you can't do this, and everybody else not. I I think it would be conference mandated.
Speaker 2:If I'm Duke, I say make me or I'm out.
Speaker 3:Then I think we're going to see a change back to like cultures standards being a really big deal for these programs. You're going to see teams have more identity than we have in the last three years.
Speaker 1:I'm okay to an extent I don't think it needs to go fully back. I just don't think. I think we're too far gone at this point to go fully back.
Speaker 3:But I do think there needs to be something to it. It just seems like we implemented NIL without really knowing what we were getting into. Oh, 100%.
Speaker 1:We opened the floodgates. That was an NCAA thing. We didn't crack the seal on it. We've opened the floodgates.
Speaker 2:They should have got ahead of it and had this set right to begin with. Instead they fought it for years until players started suing them. Then the judges said you can't do that no more. If they would have got out in front of it and done it right.
Speaker 1:It would have been good. Stinking Ed O'Bannon ruined college football video games for years.
Speaker 2:That was the worst thing ever.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad to have that back, but a guy like him, who was a nobody like on the end of a UCLA bench, completely changed the landscape of the entire NCAA, really, I mean for the rest of our lives, yeah. So I don't know what the next step is as far as how they truly do it the right way. I would like to see some, like you said, some culture get brought back into it, some pedigree like I'm here because I care to be here, but I'm also getting something.
Speaker 2:But if you can get the same money anywhere, I think that'll come back. I think so getting some If you can get the same money anywhere, I think that'll come back.
Speaker 3:I think so too. I don't like that. You can transfer in conference.
Speaker 1:I just have always questioned. That's an uncomfortable thing. Think about back in high school. I can remember playing against some guys that their family moved. It wasn't a choice that they transferred, but they transferred and you play them and it's like no, they're a traitor, whether you like it or not you just are.
Speaker 2:My problem is, if you're going to restrict the players, you've got to restrict the coaches the same way. If they can go wherever, whenever, then you've got to let the players do it. Now I'm not opposed to saying, coaches, you can't go in conference either, didn't you used to have to sign the?
Speaker 1:coaches of universities, they picked it. If they want to put it as a clause, they did.
Speaker 3:When I was in college, we weren't allowed to transfer in conference.
Speaker 1:So I don't have a problem with that. My issue, though, is like, take an SEC. You're at Vandy because it's SEC, you're getting notoriety, and all of a sudden, kentucky comes open and they call you Like, call you like. I feel bad for that guy to be able to say, well, you can't transfer within conference, like as a coach, like you can't take that job because it's in conference. Yeah, that's a job of a lifetime. Like the same thing, like if you're currently at miami, which is a horrible place to be, which they're getting a good coach now, but previously, and duke or carolina calls like I feel like it's different. Yeah, to me it's almost like you shouldn't be able to transfer. If it's another top team, duke, guys shouldn't go to Carolina, carolina guys shouldn't go to Duke. Currently, alabama guys shouldn't go to.
Speaker 4:Kentucky or Florida.
Speaker 1:We've talked about this though that just feels different.
Speaker 2:Players used to hate each other. There used to be even in the NBA. We talked about Michael Jordan and some of these guys, but it was the same way. In college you would have never seen a North Carolina guy even think about Duke or Kentucky or anything like that. Now it's kind of like well, money, I can go there.
Speaker 1:It's not the same hatred. Nobody cares the same way. Because you were there because you're getting paid, not because you really truly wanted to be there, I'll swing back. Oh, of course I.
Speaker 3:Everything in life does.
Speaker 1:I just don't think we ever see it fully go back, because now that money's involved, I just don't think it can. I just don't think it's possible, all right.
Speaker 2:Well, I've got a random question for y'all, because this has been on my mind since I saw it.
Speaker 1:Okay, y'all probably saw the tsunami or something somewhere. Tsunami or something somewhere. What was the tsunami? No, earthquake. Earthquake in Thailand. Yeah, is that what it was, and they had the pools up top and the pools are swashing and stuff.
Speaker 2:Okay, so then that got me thinking. First of all, I don't want to be in a pool that high up. Anyways, even earthquake or not.
Speaker 3:Rooftop pools are awesome. I don't want to be in a building that high up here.
Speaker 2:It's weird because I like to go up in helicopters, in private planes, but man-made stuff I don't want to go in, I don't trust it. Planes are man-made, but I saw these two Planes are what?
Speaker 1:Man-made.
Speaker 2:I know, but you can still glide. You're up on the. It's not like the building's going to fall, whatever. I saw these two buildings that were connected With a pool and the pool was over top of like nothing. There is no way, and there were like people swimming in it and all this crap. Would either one of y'all get in there? No, I would. I mean, we're talking what? Was it 100 stories up or something crazy.
Speaker 1:No way. Unreal Glass bottom You're looking down. That doesn't bother me. Heights doesn't bother me. No, like I'm not. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 2:I think the caption I saw was like have these people ever seen what's the movie Final Destination, final Destination or something like that?
Speaker 1:So that's in remake right now.
Speaker 2:Is it.
Speaker 1:That's coming back out because I saw a meme that was like now all of these kids are going to be terrified of random everyday things, like we were for the past 30 years.
Speaker 3:They count. It's coming back too by the. Is it really? I didn't see that they count it too. I didn't see that, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's interesting.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I saw that and I was like there is absolutely no way I would get it. I'm not going to be up on the rooftop anyway, it's probably not that high. We went, we were somewhere on vacation and we went up in Lighthouse and you know we're going up the not. Like I said, I'm not terrified of heights, but it's just something weird about it and I stepped out on the thing and I was like oh crap, and I just backed up against it.
Speaker 2:It's a whole different, though, because there's not much to it like a lighthouse, is not a very large I know, but but they had like railings, like you, it would have been so hard to even even in high skyscrapers.
Speaker 3:You can feel the building sway, oh 100 and I filmed for the football team. In the fall we had to sit on top of the press box at our stadium.
Speaker 1:But that's a windy area too, though, and you can feel it move. There's always a breeze coming through. You didn't like that, no?
Speaker 2:I did that once at a college football game. We might have actually been the very top thing when I was a kid, and what was weird? The worst thing was when you looked up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2:My knees got weak and I was like holy crap, this is weird. Like if I was looking down at the field, I was fine.
Speaker 3:But it was something weird. My thing is like this life is great and I'm not going to put that into jeopardy on purpose.
Speaker 2:You know I used to always want to skydive, no shot and as I've gotten a little older. No way I think of that. There is no way. I'm like man. What if that's the one time I shoot? Don't.
Speaker 3:Open or something that would be the one time we're going down.
Speaker 1:I feel very different now about things than I did when I was 20. As soon as kids are in the equation, things are very, very different.
Speaker 2:Will that flip back when we get 70? We're like let's go skydiving. Who cares? I don't know.
Speaker 1:Life now is very different than what it was, a long time, yeah, but like you're like 75. It's like all right, I've been there, done everything else, I've only got a couple of years left. I give it a shot. No See, last week you said you're going to a hundred.
Speaker 2:That's what I did. Say that, yeah, you did.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's happening. Possibly can.
Speaker 3:That doesn't mean long, though, like you can say it could be tomorrow. We have no true control over that, like we're, I'm fully aware. Have you seen the stuff where people are really trying to like live forever, like? There's these, like scientists trying to like regenerate dna, to like that? They think that they've gotten like a 50 year old and a 22 year old.
Speaker 1:So there's kind of this little cult following this. It's a family and they've been doing this stuff and they're having like procedures and they don't go outside, they don't get sunlight, they're like.
Speaker 2:It's almost a little vampire-ish, like I thought something was good for me to an extent well, I mean vitamin d is do we know do we really know like, for example all right, cheerios here we go I can see the look on his face. Hey, this is the stuff we like, right here.
Speaker 3:No, cheerios and Kellogg were like their whole push, that's marketing. That's marketing is all that is, and we really believe that cereal in the morning is really good for us. It's not, it's so bad.
Speaker 1:But the thing is that's just marketing the fact that we do most of that stuff.
Speaker 3:You thing is that's just marketing, like the fact that our culture believes.
Speaker 1:You ask anybody. They know who kellogg is. They know. But individuals are smart. People are stupid. That's why they spend the money.
Speaker 3:People groups are so dumb like do we really know what's good for us and what's not?
Speaker 1:because absolutely not we have no idea, but go back to when we were kids you guys, I'm not.
Speaker 3:You know you're a little younger.
Speaker 1:But back when, like when we were kids, the food pyramid.
Speaker 4:They look at that now and it's like that was pushed by the government.
Speaker 2:It was. It was pushed hard.
Speaker 1:They go back now and they're like that is horrible.
Speaker 2:I still think about it sometimes. I'm like man my kids need to be eating more of this.
Speaker 3:It's like wait no.
Speaker 4:No, I'm all for my kids need protein.
Speaker 2:You obviously need protein because it's energy and it's it's gonna build you and yeah, don't eat super, I don't care but the food pyramid was we could come up with anything right now and you could tell me it's this is great for you or this is bad for you, and I can get online and find the opposite argument for whatever, it is well I think the biggest thing is your heart health.
Speaker 3:Right like that. That's everything, and I think that exercise is the best. It's the best thing your longevity.
Speaker 2:And that's what we do the least, because it's too hard, typically. Yeah, we all want a quick fix.
Speaker 1:It is too hard, yeah, but that's the way the world's been pushed, though.
Speaker 3:I mean, you look at the TikTok age, the age of all, I think we're becoming more healthier as a society actually, to an extent, but I think there is a quick fix, but that wave is no different than what it was 10 years ago.
Speaker 1:Like every so often, you're going to see a wave, just like that. We're going to freak out over everything. We're going to have this wave Because that's when you were seeing the push in Jenny Craig.
Speaker 3:You're seeing the push in all these different health companies, weight Watchers, and then those disappear.
Speaker 1:And then something new comes along and it's like because keto became the big fad.
Speaker 3:It's marketing, there's all these things. It's something new, it's just money. It's all the money it's 100%.
Speaker 1:Now I'm not saying as a society we shouldn't become healthier, because we absolutely should. I just think it's the same kind of fad type thing right now as it is all the time when we lose the gold medal count in the Olympics. You think that's when we see it.
Speaker 3:Yep, that's when we're in a bad place which we haven't lost yet.
Speaker 1:So no, we're still quite a bit ahead in that, though.
Speaker 2:Don't we put a lot more athletes in there than other people? Though? Ain't that kind of skewed a little bit?
Speaker 1:I mean not by percent. By percent is pretty close, Is it Okay yeah?
Speaker 3:When you look at like the gold, like we're still winning gold medals, like it ends up being one oh correct, yeah, no.
Speaker 1:I'm not. I'm not necessarily like 5%. We're still winning more gold medals.
Speaker 2:Do either one of y'all remember those belts you put around your waist? Yeah, like shocked your abs. They still sell those, do they? And it was.
Speaker 1:Have you seen the new thing?
Speaker 2:It made you sore, but whether it actually did anything. But have you seen?
Speaker 1:this next thing. It's a whole TikTok trend. It's like the old no I remember the shake Shake.
Speaker 4:weights are out forever. That's the dumbest thing ever.
Speaker 1:But I still could see more use of that than shocking your stomach to make it.
Speaker 2:It was like Contracting the muscles. That's what it did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you could just truly making you strong like that's. But even then, if you formed abs, you're not actually stronger, you're actually healthy, correctly, it just, it just formed the shape of those, yeah. But there's this whole. It's kind of like the old school. I don't know if you remember seeing it in movies. You put the belt kind of around your, your butt and it it basically shakes you and you are basically almost like to a dance in a way. So now there's this thing that you stand on. I've seen it that does it.
Speaker 1:And all these people are like, oh, I'm going to get in great shape. And again I'm like that's. So we know somebody that's doing nothing? Who?
Speaker 2:does social media?
Speaker 4:Yep.
Speaker 2:And they're really big on that for some kind of like I don't know. They're into like natural stuff and they really say that's a natural thing, that it does something to your body Do.
Speaker 1:I know this person.
Speaker 2:You do know this person, yeah.
Speaker 1:I've got to figure out who this is. Yeah, they do.
Speaker 2:Instagram and they're big on it. Yeah, I'm not going to call them out right now, because it might work. I don't know. I'm just trying to think of who this would be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know who they are, but I know, but now it's killing me.
Speaker 2:I got to figure this out. No, no, no, yeah, but that's again. It's just one of those things I'm like it's a quick fix type thing it's. I can stay on this and be lazy she has this natural well, it your immune system and your body. But that's marketing, they're also big on like grounding, going out barefoot and they say and that's, that's making a big push, the grounding sheets and all this stuff. I don't know if you've seen that. It's crazy. I'm not plugging my sheets into the wall.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's kind of weird A bit much. But but the whole grounding thing, they again it's minuscule science. There's not enough to truly say this 100%, without a shadow of a doubt is doing this? For some people, yes, it's doing well, for others it's not. So that, to me, is a hard thing to just be like. Yeah, we absolutely put our life on this working.
Speaker 2:But that's again. It's marketing, it's a quick fix.
Speaker 3:You see people who are healthy their entire life, exercising, eating right and then get cancer or something like that, and then you see somebody who eats junk and all this stuff.
Speaker 2:No, I agree, but just whatever you would think, if you're healthy, you're going to be healthy.
Speaker 1:But I feel like we see that more in America than we do in other countries.
Speaker 3:Well, it could come back to food, like you said.
Speaker 1:We also aren't around other countries. We don't know no, but preservative-wise we're puts the stuff in food that we do. It's horrible.
Speaker 3:There should be people going to prison for our food issues.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but why do we keep eating it?
Speaker 1:We know it's bad, but that's all we have, Unless you're going to go off-grid and do it yourself. Everything you buy in the store is the exact same. It's going to say organic.
Speaker 3:It's going to say this you have no idea unless you watched it sourced. Like I buy organic chicken from Ingles or Aldi or whatever, there ain't no way they still have preservers in those.
Speaker 1:Most of our chicken, like that, is chlorine washed and they talk about that in other countries and they're like no, you would go to prison for suggesting it. Like it's like absolutely not.
Speaker 3:I eat a ton of deer meat and I feel like my dad.
Speaker 1:But that's the way you do it.
Speaker 3:It's a wild game. You'd have to live off that. The best I feel is when I eat deer meat.
Speaker 2:So I found a lot of the organic stuff I don't really like the taste of, and it's probably because I'm accustomed to everything else I would say you're so used to all the other things I mean growing up my grandparents still would have a garden and green beans and corn and a lot of stuff I didn't really like the taste of. I wanted it from the store, but it's because of that.
Speaker 3:We're creatures of habit, just naturally, and I think that you grow up in this food industry. Do you know how hard it is to break that?
Speaker 4:Oh, that's so hard.
Speaker 3:Because what are you going to do? Stop going out to eat with your wife and your kids, right?
Speaker 1:Are you going is stop going out to eat with your wife and your kids? Right, you're gonna stop going out to eat with? Well, but then. But then you also start looking at. Marketing tells us you got to take your wife out for dinner and movie, but like that's the old thing, now it's like dinner and a show or like, yeah, that's what you do anywhere you go.
Speaker 3:You're not getting that like clean, healthy food, but like a part of me too is like mcdonald's. That's american you.
Speaker 1:That's grassroots America you have to like.
Speaker 3:McDonald's to be American.
Speaker 2:I've been seeing a lot of stuff lately that says the McDonald's week today is way worse than what we ate back then. They've changed ingredients and added preservatives and stuff like that. You guys keep talking like I've. I don't know whether that's true or not. You're not that much younger than us. I mean, come on McDonald's when you was a kid is probably different than what it is now.
Speaker 1:You didn't pick up on the math earlier 2010,. He was 12.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, that's not that big a difference.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I won't get you by 12 years.
Speaker 1:I was going to say 12 years is a long time and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:It's not terrible.
Speaker 4:But I'm saying it was the same way.
Speaker 1:So, in the age of how things have translated from when you were a kid to when he was a kid, way, different lifestyle.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure, like just, way different. Well, like me with my kids, like I want to give them everything I didn't get.
Speaker 1:Were you in school at all without computers? Yeah.
Speaker 3:What grade. We had a computer lab.
Speaker 1:We didn't have computers.
Speaker 3:That wasn't a thing for early elementary school. In high school we didn't have computers. But that wasn't a thing for early elementary school. In high school we didn't have um computers. We like here in brevard every kid, they still taught.
Speaker 1:Teachers still taught a little different. Back then, easy, I'll say it, you know I'm right. Easy because you'll agree with that, because, like I've been there when the internet goes out.
Speaker 3:Oh we can't teach.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? You can't teach?
Speaker 2:Well there is, you can still do a lot of things, but that's because they put everything on the computer. I don't know if that's necessarily the teacher can't. They have no material.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying all teachers, because there are still some fantastic teachers, but there are a few, and you kind of know where I'm going with this. Your, your assignment's on there, good luck. They couldn't even have a discussion about what the topic is yeah.
Speaker 3:Also going back to the food thing, our alcohol is a really big issue here. 100% we consume alcohol at a very high level. I'm not part of that.
Speaker 2:I don't drink any of it, but I think you're right.
Speaker 1:But I don't think you can say that we consume it more than Europeans, because they do it for literally every meal. We do it as a social, but they're drinking wine. I mean, most of Europe is drinking Guinness.
Speaker 3:They're having Guinness with dinner.
Speaker 4:But we are doing it just getting hammered all the time. It's not a. I'm having a drink with dinner.
Speaker 1:Theirs is all the time it's. It's not a. I'm having a drink with dinner. There's is all the time everyone well like, but not to the same.
Speaker 2:We said here the same reason none of us really drink no but you get pressured hard if you're out with anybody.
Speaker 1:Oh, you go to dinner with somebody and they're getting a drink. You even look that funny like, oh, why don't you drink? I just don't like, I just don't care, especially golf.
Speaker 2:Oh you're golfing. Oh you get a drink here at the turn.
Speaker 1:Take somebody, there are so many people that only play golf to drink.
Speaker 4:Yeah oh, it's not, it's not.
Speaker 3:Am crack it like just go ahead, it's, it's the whole, but also like your thing I don't know, like I'm in, like I'm kind of like stuck in between, because, like to me, what's american, though, is like one of these dive bars with, like dale arnhart in the corner like I love Dale Earnhardt, with a jukebox playing. That to me is American.
Speaker 2:You been watching any NASCAR lately? No, I have not. You gotta get back into some NASCAR and have somebody talk to you about it.
Speaker 3:I know I do need to get back into it. I still hate Kyle Busch.
Speaker 1:Hey, does anybody like Kyle Busch thrown in there?
Speaker 3:I still hate college but and our education system's in a bad place.
Speaker 1:It's been for the past 40 years.
Speaker 3:I mean it's not been great. I think it's been bad.
Speaker 2:I try not to get too political. Is this administration going to help our food and our education, or are they just talking about it?
Speaker 3:It's whatever gets the constituents fired up.
Speaker 1:I don't think anybody really knows yet.
Speaker 3:Four years, you can't do anything.
Speaker 1:No. Nope, can't do it, so I think you can lay some good stepping stones, but if the next group doesn't follow, whether it's Democrat or Republican, if the next group doesn't follow, it doesn't matter. But have we even seen that?
Speaker 2:No, you can't yet.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying, but I hope we get jd vance after this I, I don't, but I want to see, regardless of views or whatever, like I want to see what else we're doing, because right now, everything it's let's do what's polarizing, let's save money, and we're going to save it in all these weird spots, obviously, all these things. They're like oh, we're finding this was going towards these things. That stuff wasn't going, it was going to people's pockets. That's not how that works.
Speaker 3:That's been happening. I mean, this is nothing new. We look back when they came out with the Odyssey and the Iraq War that we were paying $2,000 for a toilet seat Correct, where was that money going?
Speaker 1:No, I agree with that. It's just. I don't even care about talking about it, Just put an end to it. Let's just fix it Now. I think it's corrupt to the core, Regardless of how you vote. Regardless of that, I don't like big government because this is the type of stuff. They have no oversight. They do whatever they want.
Speaker 2:There's no control there they put us against each other.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's the whole point, and obviously we all lean one way or the other. This fight has been happening since 1770.
Speaker 2:It has. You know 100%, but this is America.
Speaker 3:Before our Constitution was even put in place.
Speaker 2:We have so many choices on everything we do, except who leads our country. We get two choices.
Speaker 4:Too much.
Speaker 2:That's crazy to me. Like we're, that's crazy to me. We're supposed to be the land of opportunities.
Speaker 3:Well, that's what I think the United Kingdom's parliamentary system. You can align yourself so much more with a party there because there's six of them. You can align yourself with a party In a two-party system. We're always taught studying it. If you agree with everything your party does, you are a bad citizen.
Speaker 4:Yeah, point blank.
Speaker 1:I don't think anybody. If you really get down to brass tacks and go through everything, there's no way you can agree with it. There are so many people that are like, oh yeah, I agree with it because they don't really want to get into it.
Speaker 2:But I don't think there's any shot. It's the better choice. It's not that you agree with everything of it. Yeah, but I don't think it's a better choice. It's not that you agree with everything of it, but you just like it a little bit. I feel like a better choice.
Speaker 1:It's lesser of two evils.
Speaker 3:Like that's how it's been for many years. At this point, that's a good way to put it. I feel like I've heard that phrase 20 years.
Speaker 1:I feel like I've heard it for the last 20 years.
Speaker 3:I can't not hear it. Every time politics are brought up, it's lesser to evils and it's just like it is almighty.
Speaker 1:But that's a terrible thing. I think everybody at this point, though, is so over politics.
Speaker 3:Well, I think politics should be boring. It should not 100%.
Speaker 1:It shouldn't be polarizing. That's the thing. But, we've made it something.
Speaker 2:There should be more views on the fresh prince like reruns that night than the correct, the presidential.
Speaker 3:I love the fresh prince. Yeah, that's, it's not the best what's the best, what's the go-to?
Speaker 2:well okay, but it was fresh prince when he was a kid oh, dude, I grew up on okay, I can't remember when it came out, so I was on reruns that wasn't live.
Speaker 1:That wasn't live, but like no, he grew up on reruns hey, it's good, though fresh no fantastic show.
Speaker 3:It was my favorite show growing up. I think the best, where I get the most laughs, though to date, still today's seinfeld I've watched I said we've had that discussion.
Speaker 2:I know you're a huge I'm gonna have to get back to watching just because you said like five or six times.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's never not funny what I find hilarious, though, really going back and look at it now, being older, being way more to sports now, and thinking about george costanza working for the no, it's hilarious I'm like how, how is that? How do we make that? But again, that's a show. It was perfect for its time. It doesn't make it now.
Speaker 3:No, no shot. Well, even like the jokes they make now, they would be canceled for.
Speaker 1:But there's so many of those episodes they don't even air.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:Because, like all these jokes are too, I'm like we've got to get over ourselves, Like lighten up.
Speaker 2:I don't, I'm not one that really cares about jokes Like say whatever. Like I don't remember it much. I watched it a little bit as a kid but and I love some good sitcoms, so I'm going to have to.
Speaker 1:It's the best sitcom ever made. Back on the old TBS, though, like they played it nonstop.
Speaker 3:It's still on Comedy Central all the time.
Speaker 1:But I have a hard time sitting and watching a show like that, like I'm trying to watch episode by episode by episode, like trying to follow it as like a season. That, to me, is a show. I don't feel like you need to do that.
Speaker 3:No, you can just jump around and watch every show. Is this like?
Speaker 1:is this own thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's awesome, like there's some storyline that goes through the entirety of it.
Speaker 1:There's overarching story, but there Like you've got to watch this, to see this, to know this.
Speaker 3:No, it's like you can go to season four, episode three, right now, and you'll be just as fine if you started season two Like it is the best man, it's a show about nothing and it's hilarious, it's 100% about nothing.
Speaker 2:Isn't that why we watch TV and stuff? Because we want to just do nothing, just laugh. We don't want to think.
Speaker 3:We don't funny. Like scientific, like when we watch television we go into a state of hypnosis. Like scientifically proven we go into a state of hypnosis when we watch television. So that means that subconsciously we are retaining more than we think. So like our views are coming from the state of hypnosis that we're not even realizing.
Speaker 3:So if you watch cnn or Fox 24, seven, no matter what you really, you're getting stuff pushed into you, you are like your brain is like getting rewired without you even knowing it and so like when it's like when we watch like a scary movie, like you walk out of the room after the scary movie, you're kind of like looking around the corners because you're in a state of hypnosis.
Speaker 1:It's the same reason these companies put millions upon millions of dollars to have their product in those things. Right, Because you're subconsciously seeing it and looking at it and it's like, oh, you may not like Coke or that may not be your go-to, but you saw Coca-Cola in the show forever. I'm going to go back up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's funny you say that because last night and I've told you about these two newer sitcoms One's real new, one's a little bit newer, that I've been watching a little bit, one's called the Neighborhood and one's Papa's House, and they come on. I think CBS and both shows last night in random places mentioned Mark Cuban, shark Tank, things like that, and I'm like now this is odd that both shows they are pushing their thing without you even knowing it.
Speaker 1:I don't think there's a single modern current show that's like truly worth watching.
Speaker 2:There's nothing on right now. That just really draws me in. I like those two shows.
Speaker 1:I've not found anything that just truly draws me in.
Speaker 3:Amazon Prime has some really good stuff.
Speaker 1:But see, that to me is different. Streaming service is different because those are small movies.
Speaker 3:I haven't watched like kept up with a show Like my, because those are small movies. I haven't watched like kept up with a show Like my parents used to say that every Tuesday. Like on network TV, there's not a single thing that I watch Every Tuesday. They made sure that they got their food early so they could sit down and watch Seinfeld, like they did not want to miss that Tuesday night.
Speaker 1:But I feel like people did that with Seinfeld. I feel like they did it with Friends. I feel like remember doing it with Home Improvement as a kid Like Wendy's sold a thing when you got 3D glasses. You remember TGIF oh 100%. We made sure we were home watching TGIF 100%.
Speaker 2:See, I did that, even like 2012. Oh, American Idol was one of those too. I did that with.
Speaker 1:I think everybody did with the early seasons.
Speaker 3:I got out of it. They were so funny.
Speaker 4:See, we did it with Survivor too, though especially the early stuff Wipeout.
Speaker 2:Oh, wipeout was good yeah, I forgot about. Wipeout the Big Bang Theory. Did you ever watch that? I was big in that show, it was live.
Speaker 1:I watched it when it was done. I didn't watch it. It didn't keep me enough.
Speaker 2:There's funny parts, but it never kept me enough. I even watch some of the spinoff shows now that came from it, but you don't do that anymore. No, you just binge watch it. No.
Speaker 3:Best war movie ever made. I haven't watched a lot of war movies, probably. Oh, we're not war people, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I watch warped. I mean, I like them, but I haven't. Yeah, that's why I was like what you got? You've got one in your mind already.
Speaker 3:I'm obviously a little bit more modernized. Okay, 13 Hours, I think is oh fantastic. I think it's great.
Speaker 1:Such a good movie 13 Hours is so good, but it's again. It's a political like it is.
Speaker 3:It should have never happened like that's one of those things like so easy to not let it happen well, also like this isn't a movie band of brothers, yeah, I mean, if you haven't watched I haven't watched band of brothers oh my gosh that is like I watch it twice a year but thinking, thinking of like 13 hours.
Speaker 1:What's hard is I currently have a friend who's a contractor over in iraq and I'm, if it goes down good luck. There's not much, but he's like there's so many QRF, which is their quick response.
Speaker 2:There are so many of these guys here, we will take the country if it comes to it. My favorite war movie Probably have to be Forrest Gump, I think. Oh my.
Speaker 1:God, that's not a war movie. No, it's a good movie.
Speaker 3:I like the movie. I don't like the movie.
Speaker 1:Why not? I can't watch it again.
Speaker 2:Most people are yes or no. There's not much in between. I love it, but I can't watch it.
Speaker 3:It doesn't seem real to me. Oh, because it's not. I don't take that as a real thing. It's stories or movies that aren't like.
Speaker 1:You want some based on a true story. You want to at least be able to be real, but that makes sense though.
Speaker 3:I hate the sports movies that are like a little feral basketball movie.
Speaker 1:Oh horrible Semi-Pro. Semi-pro is not good, that's such an awful movie, though.
Speaker 3:I did not like Major League Okay.
Speaker 2:We talked about favorite sports movies a while back back in the winter, but pretty much most of ours are all like true story type stuff, yeah, with the exception of like Mighty Ducks I love Mighty Ducks. I said I loved Facing the Giants, Christian-based football movie. I don't know if you've seen it, but it's really good.
Speaker 1:One of my always always, always, always go to Remember the Titans.
Speaker 2:That's a good one, yeah, that was a good movie.
Speaker 1:I will mute you and kick you out right now.
Speaker 3:How do you not like that? I just don't like it. I don't like football, I just can't.
Speaker 1:Coach Carter.
Speaker 3:Coach Carter's good. Not the best, but it's good. Oh no, I don't think it's the best seen blue chip. It's so good, penny shack yeah it's like realistic, like it's real.
Speaker 1:It feels like I mean it's second behind space jam. I was gonna say space jam not the lebron one.
Speaker 3:I want the lebron. I think both of them are bad I've not seen the lebron one it's.
Speaker 2:I think that's it's designed for a certain group it's designed for a certain group.
Speaker 1:Yeah, space like as a kid. Oh, space Jam was fantastic.
Speaker 2:But nobody watches Looney Tunes now.
Speaker 1:But it merged the things, but that's why they did the second one, because it was about video games yeah like it fit for the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it did it wasn't my thing because I liked the original, but it fit for what is important now. Yeah, so that. But that was the thing for me is Space Jam was huge when I was a kid. My love for basketball it was. Looney Tunes and stuff we grew up with and it's like, yeah, of course this is awesome. So merging the two felt like such a cool thing now to try to go back and watch it now graphically, it'd be so bad.
Speaker 2:A lot of movies are that way.
Speaker 3:I think that's a lot of my issue with like the movies just too old that my parents grew up on, that they're like, oh, this is the best ever. Like I go watch it. I'm like you at that point, like you have to you try you have to watch it for story, not for anything else.
Speaker 1:Like, like, just trying to get the CGI is trash.
Speaker 3:Like yeah, I like even. It's hard for me to watch four, five and six star wars just because of like the cg.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so dated um the technology he's never watched any Star Wars.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, I have no desire to. I don't know.
Speaker 1:No. So the original trilogy? Yes, it is tough because it's just dated technology.
Speaker 2:And I say that like Now for when it came out it was ahead of its time, but you're talking about Star Wars, something that cannot ever happen. You said you like movies or stuff no, no, he's talking about sports though. Yeah, I was only the only time war movies. Never started that.
Speaker 1:But yeah, but again, though there are certain war movies that it goes too far, like it's just too out there.
Speaker 2:I agree and I agree with that on those type, because it just gets crazy I like watching old movies and seeing, like the, the vehicles and stuff they're driving around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, star wars is a different thing because it it doesn't even feel like. I feel like Star Wars you never go into it thinking way beyond its time, like oh, it's way ahead of its years because by far, we're headed that way.
Speaker 3:I feel like. I'm too far behind now to ever watch it we'll see a Death Star up in the sky one day.
Speaker 1:I don't. I don't think you can ever be too far behind in Star Wars because there's something about it.
Speaker 3:I think there's a lot of people that way. Yeah, there is a lot of people that way.
Speaker 1:I mean so my brother Brad. He just doesn't like sci-fi type stuff. Yeah, I've never seen.
Speaker 2:Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings Just none of that stuff has ever appealed to me. I haven't.
Speaker 1:I have no desire. That was like really putting.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't go around telling people that.
Speaker 2:Well, that's how I figure out who's cool and who's not. Me too. And you're not Freezy, it's a different generation. In my generation, you weren't a cool kid when you watched it.
Speaker 1:No, so that's. I don't even think it's that. I think it's just like, if you like sci-fi things, you've seen all of this. No, I really do think, I think sci-fi is.
Speaker 2:I'm not a lot older than you I'm 38. But in middle school, high school, the kids that watched all this stuff were kind of the nerdy kids.
Speaker 3:See, that's completely opposite, for us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it does come through generations.
Speaker 1:See, here's the thing. I'm only three years younger than you and when it came to stuff like that, most people just didn't. You weren't talking about it the same, but nobody cared.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think anybody cared, but you just saw it. You saw the kids who you could tell liked it, wore their shirts.
Speaker 1:No, but I think you're talking about the fanboys.
Speaker 2:We had plenty of fanboys, the Comic-Con guys, you know that kind of no, no, no so.
Speaker 1:I've seen Comic-Con's sick, but I'm saying that's common.
Speaker 3:now, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Right, but no, I mean I'd seen all the Star Wars, watched all that, could talk about it, but I wasn't the kid sitting there. Like I've got the Luke Skywalker figurine and I've watched every one of the movies and the comics and all the like. That was not what the that was the true diehards.
Speaker 3:The casual people were just watching the movies. I think star wars has like expanded with technology, because now not only can you like get like the comics and all this stuff for start, but now you, I can go on reddit and I can read for five hours like star wars lore, that like you could never do before and so what?
Speaker 1:what's your opinion?
Speaker 3:disney ruined star wars yeah, 100, don't even thank you okay no, as long as we're on the same page. They have not produced. They've produced. Disney's produced a couple of good Star Wars stuff. I thought Andor was really good and I thought Rogue One was really good.
Speaker 2:But Rogue One was still bad.
Speaker 4:No Mandalorian.
Speaker 3:I don't like Mandalorian, I like.
Speaker 1:I like it because it yeah, I get that it literally is a Star Wars Western. I'm like that's cool, I think they. But I grew up on Westerns too, like just literally sitting there with my uncles watching.
Speaker 2:I can get behind some Westerns old school Westerns.
Speaker 1:I loved them.
Speaker 3:They should decanonize 789. Fair, they should Like those were the worst movies, like I will never even think about watching them again. I think they ruined.
Speaker 1:I've seen all the movies. I've seen one through six More times than I can count. I've seen seven, eight, nine, once, once.
Speaker 3:And I don't want to go back and watch them. No, I'll never watch it again. And I think they ruined Obi-Wan Kenobi. That show they put out was. I think there was potential there and they just did it wrong. No, it was garbage, it was horrific.
Speaker 1:Like Vader doing like there was this. This the episode where they I can feel him checking out as we talk and I think I'm just watching basketball.
Speaker 2:I think it's hilarious. But no, I'm listening to nerds talk about no. But yeah, I agree with what you're saying, like I feel.
Speaker 1:I feel like they made so. But even for just like a movie series, if you're gonna have a big bad, it's got to be the big bad, and I feel like they made him weak yeah, but I think that's that's in anything it made him so weak you can't take your biggest of big and make them awful.
Speaker 3:But also I think that it's not an unpopular opinion to say that Disney ruined it. I don't know if there's anyone that says that Disney has done a good job with Star Wars. I don't know anyone.
Speaker 1:Some of your youngest of into it like it because it became kid friendly. Yeah, like it was like truly just like that's for kids.
Speaker 2:If I got into it now, would I be able to like it, or you would like it.
Speaker 1:I would say it depends on what you get into. Do you get into the new or the old?
Speaker 2:Am I that group that already has this opinion about it that it's not going to matter Potentially? But here's the thing there's no Marvel, no DC, no Star Wars.
Speaker 1:He doesn't like the sci-fi stuff, so of course he's.
Speaker 2:Somebody says that genre I'm not really yeah, so you're not going to like it period.
Speaker 3:You're just not, but I don't, david, for you personally, as someone I know. Thank you, this got serious.
Speaker 2:Are we going to have Star Wars night out here?
Speaker 3:As a colleague, for you, goff, as someone that helps you pick the range. I just I don't want you to leave this earth without ever watching this stuff.
Speaker 2:But see, I am from that period that it's the nerds.
Speaker 1:But knowing David though, he doesn't make it through the first 30 minutes Because it is like, because they are truly telling story. It gets slow in a couple parts.
Speaker 3:It does, and if you're not in it, he would check out. Yeah, like he would just check out. That's why I think you got to start at episode one. If you're ever going to do it, you don't start at four, you start at one.
Speaker 1:Jar Jar's tough though man.
Speaker 3:Oh dude, he's tough.
Speaker 1:He's tough If.
Speaker 3:I have the desire to go there.
Speaker 1:Your go-to is going to be probably number one comedy, but just know in the slim chance that you do really like it.
Speaker 3:Say like, in the off chance you really like it. There is so much that you will never have to like worry about not watching something.
Speaker 1:Well, so I'll go and tell you because me and Will have had this conversation probably a hundred times about Star Wars that man right there is deep. Yeah, like he's the kids when we were in school. That like he's probably got a lightsaber in his pocket.
Speaker 2:Like you're sitting there like making fun of these kids, because like he's very deep in it, but we've talked about this too.
Speaker 1:My age, though we didn't do that.
Speaker 2:For me, it was the same kids that played Pokemon. We've talked about that. Yeah, that, that was the nerdy. Like I didn't play pokemon.
Speaker 3:That was that was a weird thing. Pokemon wasn't big when I came, but to me it was that same group.
Speaker 2:It came back after you, yeah, it did yeah, but that same group was the star wars but the pokemon dragon ball z the yugioh.
Speaker 3:Remember, yugioh, my age pokemon was huge.
Speaker 1:yeah, because that's it's when it came out. It was like right there at that time when I was hitting elementary school, when it was like the boom, and that's why it got big. If it would have been big when you hit kindergarten, it may have been different, like that. That's why I think it was so big for most of my age, cause I can remember kindergarten, first, second grade, like it ruled the world, like for kids wise, like it was everything.
Speaker 2:Well, you wasn't worried about being cool then. No, it's true.
Speaker 1:Of course not. Like you don't care when you're that age, you don't care, you do all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3:There wasn't a Halloween that I wasn't Obi-Wan Kenobi In my whole childhood. Really, yeah, I thought he was.
Speaker 4:That's sad.
Speaker 3:Alright, you didn't experience anything else.
Speaker 2:Alright, tyler, what was your go to costume as a kid at Halloween?
Speaker 1:Didn't have one. I was something different every year. Was you really? Every year, I was something different.
Speaker 2:I respect that. I was a cowboy mostly.
Speaker 1:So I can remember when I was four I was at preschool and a kid jumped on the seesaw and I got a black eye. So that year I was a Dalmatian.
Speaker 4:Nice, I was 101.
Speaker 1:Dalmatians, because it was like I had this like for the beard, yeah, like a cowboy hat. That's a very old school thing it is yeah, because now you're just buying a fake beard like nobody's going to that I know that sense. That was the thing back then yeah, no, so I definitely didn't have a. This is what what I do I don't think I ever did.
Speaker 2:Will. If you had to guess what, do you think Tyler's go-to costume would have been? What?
Speaker 1:are you thinking what comes to mind?
Speaker 2:He's got plenty of things he'd like to say, but whether it's actually true, that's a whole different ballgame. I was thinking what could I picture Tyler as, as a kid, you know, in know, halloween costume Superman.
Speaker 1:I don't think I ever did. I picture him being a sports figure or something, yeah. I was a baseball player one year I was a basketball player. Yeah. I don't think I ever did basketball, but I did do sports characters a lot yeah but I'm also remembering, like when I was a kid, chipper Jones was chipper jones was the heat man like, if you lived in this area like you, like chipper and andrew jones, like it's just the way it was you didn't have a choice.
Speaker 1:At one point, I had two gerbils. One was named chipper and the other was andrew. Yeah, that's just, it's what you did, mainly because my parents wouldn't let me have a dog yeah, wow, that's I blame mom for that as a whole thing. Childhood trauma we won't get into that. Brad will listen to this and he'll know all about what I'm talking about you go to school and you show up and the dog randomly ran away. That day.
Speaker 1:It's one of those things so yeah, we'll not get into the trauma of my childhood, so you had a lot of dogs run away.
Speaker 4:Or you just didn't have any dogs. No, we didn't get many.
Speaker 1:It was a hardcore fight to try to get an animal Gotcha and we weren't cat people, so it was going to have to be a dog, you're still not a cat person. Cats are of the devil. There is no such thing as a good cat. I love animals.
Speaker 2:But I can't stand the hair and stuff that comes off animals. It drives me nuts.
Speaker 3:I'm allergic, so dad's that way.
Speaker 2:Dad likes animals but he can't like our dogs and cats. Love them, but like they stay outside, like they're not inside, like they might come in occasionally but not like not living inside and hair everywhere I just can't do it.
Speaker 3:We've actually talked about getting a cat at the baseball field, um a pet cat that we have, that's like a barn cat like you're just taking care of the mice. You're taking care of, like, all the little things that make sense yeah, um, that area over there is overrun with mice, there's so many. Our field backs up to the FFA farm Correct, and that's where they're all coming from.
Speaker 2:You can get a cat or a snake Either one.
Speaker 3:I'm out on snakes man, I'm like way out.
Speaker 2:So snakes are a? No, I don't like snakes either.
Speaker 1:No, I know not picking it up.
Speaker 2:I'm not picking it up. I've never run so fast in my life. I do not like them.
Speaker 3:And I see them all the time in Pisgah.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean, and you said but you're mountain biking constantly yeah, so yeah, I'm sure you see plenty.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's terrifying.
Speaker 1:Think about all the ones you don't see I know.
Speaker 3:He's like I've already thought about it. I have nightmares. There's places like in DuPont, like lots of rocks, oh, 100%, and like there'll just be like sunbathing on the rocks when we're like.
Speaker 1:Copperheads, rattlesnakes like huge up there, there's some big ones too.
Speaker 3:Big ones.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I also don't do bears I don't do bears, I don't.
Speaker 1:You're in the wrong place but we have black bears those little different.
Speaker 2:The man that hates snakes and black bears is mountain biking through all the forest pedal faster maybe you just can't be the slowest, that's all the matters.
Speaker 1:You don't have to be the fastest, can be the slowest um, and right now I'm not very fast, so um speaking of that, did you get your brakes fixed? We've talked about this like three times. You've yet to get them.
Speaker 3:I've bit the bullet and I've dropped off at the shop.
Speaker 1:Finally, saturday okay, I was trying to do it myself because you had talked about it and you, one day you came out here and you're like, yeah, I'm gonna take the shop. And I never heard about it. And then again it was like I gotta take my, I gotta take my bike this time of year is just unreal well, you're starting to really get back into riding now, though like the weather, the weather is great well, because, like I was going to spend all the time on the weekends fixing it right, but now it's like wait a minute.
Speaker 3:The only times I have to ride are on the weekends I can't do both.
Speaker 2:I can't fix it and ride like you only want my lack of I mean you don't need brakes going uphill, just the downhill part yeah, but he's doing a lot.
Speaker 3:He's doing a lot of downhill stuff okay, that might be a little tough it's only downhill, like you do the climb right, like you only do it for the downhill. And some of the stuff in pisgah is legit I have no desire for that I think it'd be a blast.
Speaker 2:I'd probably kill myself.
Speaker 1:I've done I did it and got a concussion. I was like I'm out I'm done.
Speaker 3:It's really fun, is it?
Speaker 2:is it pretty fast? Are you kind of taking your time and what? It depends on what you want to do.
Speaker 3:It's so great about mountain biking is you. Can you go as fast as you can with like your level of experience? So, like when I first started, like the first well, I did a lot as a kid, but when I really got back into it, when I moved back here the first time I went, which had been years in between I felt like I was flying down this mountain, like I felt, like I was and people are just going by like you're standing still, and then I do the same trail again like a year later and I beat that time by like 12 minutes and I'm like I was going like snail speed down this and so it's
Speaker 3:like wherever you're at. That's what. That's why mountain biking is so great. It's because it's always enjoyable for all like. There's no like difference between the pro guy and me. We're all having the same experience. Because I'm going as fast as I possibly can. It just happens to be slower than him. So mountain biking is great like that. And I also think it's the best form of cardio I've ever found.
Speaker 1:It's easy on my back and it's easy on my knees. Yeah, I agree with that. As far as biking, we did a lot of biking when we lived over in.
Speaker 4:Shelby A lot flatter.
Speaker 1:But yeah, cardio-wise, wise because but you can go forever. Yeah, like like the flats out there we were doing road biking a little bit different, but I mean, I rode by two and it's awesome. We do 50 miles and it's not. That's not much, no, like it's like that's just going out for a cruise.
Speaker 3:I can bike from here to my parents house, which is in etowah, or horseshoe, and I can do it there and back. I could never run that gosh I couldn't even get halfway no, but run.
Speaker 1:But running so much more pounding on your body, yeah, it's a very different.
Speaker 3:That's why I think biking is great. You get your heart rate up, you can get in all zones and well mountain biking, the downhill would have to be a blast.
Speaker 2:It's so make you want to do the uphill.
Speaker 3:Well, I like the uphill, because it's a good workout and I know I'm getting fit from that. So I was gonna say, though, like when?
Speaker 1:but when you're riding, though, even like road bike, I didn't do much mountain biking. Like I said, buddy of mine took me to the whitewater center in charlotte, took me on a course. I was had no business. Yeah, you gotta work into it slowly and it was my first time going and come over a crest. It turns. Didn't know it turned.
Speaker 3:I hit a tree, so I mean literally like concussed, like I was I was bad for a few days and it sucked, but so that for me I didn't.
Speaker 1:It's all like when you're getting confidence you feel like you can go faster than you can, but the climb and biking it's not that. When you're really in it, it's not that bad.
Speaker 3:It also can be fun. It's super technical, you have to be really good at it and it's a challenge.
Speaker 1:See, mountain biking is so different than road biking.
Speaker 2:Those don't even feel like the same thing Realistically, they don't, it's funny because when I was a teenager, I was always into BMX trick bikes.
Speaker 3:I raced BMX, did you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I always enjoyed, yeah, this kid's such a nerd Raced BMX Star Wars.
Speaker 1:I like BMX Now Star.
Speaker 2:Wars? I don't know about that.
Speaker 3:I was in the band.
Speaker 1:No, but so your age, though, wait, wait wait, what did you play in the band?
Speaker 2:I don't want to talk about it. No, no, no, no you introduced it Go ahead.
Speaker 3:We didn't even pry this out. I know you introduced it.
Speaker 1:Trumpet clarinet Like violin Triangle Kazoo, were you the kazoo man.
Speaker 3:No, I wasn't. Were musical growing up like bluegrass, like my family was a bluegrass band growing up listen, I like bluegrass, so you're not gonna hurt my feelings, um, but I grew up playing piano. Uh, played at a church like I was the piano guy why, are you?
Speaker 1:I got no problem with it. No, I'm worried about piano. Like piano is such a good no it is I still play?
Speaker 3:yeah, it's fantastic, um, but however my mom you know, being from musical family, uh like you have to be in the band I get that okay, what do you want to play? I was like well, I don't, I can't be an orchestra, so I can't play the violin. So okay, uh, I had played the trumpet, okay, and then they graduated me up to baritone okay and, uh, my, my last year doing it. We were weak in the tuba section.
Speaker 4:So you went to tuba.
Speaker 3:And when I was growing up, I was the runt of the guru. I was always the smallest, the tiniest, and so I had this huge tuba in my lap, and I would have bruises on my thighs.
Speaker 2:I want to see a picture of this tuba.
Speaker 3:He was in here with a tuba, but I had to give it up because I finally had a conversation with my mother. There was a band concert the same night as a basketball game. Oh, a can-do in both and I was like she's like well, I'm playing basketball tonight, Mom, I'm not.
Speaker 1:You broke your mom's heart right then.
Speaker 3:You know you did because that was being music is such a big thing in her life, so much so that she didn't even make my two younger brothers do it. Really, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of parents are that way, so they're grateful.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Maybe it depends if they got into music later. No, they're not and they're forever indebted.
Speaker 3:Gotcha, yeah, gotcha, you use that. I had time. I was the guinea pig for band All right.
Speaker 1:I could see that I'm not getting made fun of but I think, as the first kid, you're the guinea pig for everything. Yeah, I was like, whatever it may be, you're, you're. We're learning the playbook after the first one.
Speaker 2:You know I try to let my kids do anything they want, but sports are more appealing to me so of course I push those a little more. But I try to be the same way with, you know, music, which I play drums, guitar, a little bit like that, but not to the same extent that I enjoy sports. So as parents, I think a lot of times we do push our kids to stuff we like, but it's not always good, like you said, like you finally had to say so yeah, that's what I want to do.
Speaker 1:I try that, but at the same time, like I know my oldest one, sports is not his love. Yeah, he likes games, so like it's easy at this age, yeah, but he's not one. I feel like I'm going to be able to easily push into anything and I don't want to. I can tell that's not his thing.
Speaker 2:He enjoys basketball.
Speaker 1:It's his favorite, by far his favorite sport. It's not really an argument between my wife, but it's like we've got to work with him. He just doesn't want that. I want to help him and want him to get better, but that's not his same drive the same way. When.
Speaker 3:I was a kid.
Speaker 1:I was outside shooting basketball, whether my dad was or not. I was going to do that.
Speaker 3:He just doesn't have that same feel. You see, a lot in sports Parents kind of get in between Kids that like it but don't love it. They really push hard and it can lead to a lot of issues. 100%, 100%. I was similar to you with baseball. I'm forever thankful my dad never my dad was a pro guy and he never. He's never yelled at me about athletics ever. Never got onto me right like and I had some bad moments and of course, he never once raised his voice. He never even like told me like I was doing a bad job, like and I'm like forever grateful for that because it didn't ruin the sport for me, like I loved it I mean, it shows in your personality.
Speaker 1:You were never told no, but you know yeah well when you're this good at everything. Okay, no hang on, hang on, let's, let's, let's revisit last night right over there swinging a golf club. What was this when you're so good at everything?
Speaker 3:listen, it's in the tank somewhere that's just untapped at everything. Listen it's in the tank somewhere that's just untapped.
Speaker 1:So I've seen it. It's in the tank, but it ain't there right now. No, but it was it's in such a weird? So you two weeks ago was oh my gosh, I don't think he'll ever play again. I mean, there was a moment where Now I've been with David when he feels like he's bad, but he's not been to that level of edge where you were that day.
Speaker 2:No, because I just quit playing for a while and put it up and don't swing a club and then eventually I go yeah, I might want to swing a club, I never rage and throw things. Oh, I've threw some clubs.
Speaker 3:I've never thrown a hat or a helmet or a bat, nothing. It's this internal fire. I just can't.
Speaker 1:It's this rage that if we could all see it, maybe if you threw more clubs, then you'd be able to keep playing.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's what it is. You got to get it out.
Speaker 1:Maybe, this thing get really mad and just come find one of these.
Speaker 3:I know Throw one of those.
Speaker 2:I know Like is the one. He just kind of smacks it on the ground real hard.
Speaker 1:It's just a quick hope it doesn't break, yeah, yeah yeah, I don't really throw them very far, it's kind of just that quick hey, yeah, if you need to practice golf, we got four-year golf.
Speaker 2:Come to that, that's true.
Speaker 1:It's true, that's where you learn which, by the way, I think my clubs will be here tomorrow I saw your shift and mine didn't, so happy.
Speaker 2:Oh, they're coming to my house, I'll come get them. You may not find them until mine show up.
Speaker 1:I will know that they're there because I've checked it like 15 times today it's like what clubs?
Speaker 2:No, Honestly, the thing I'm most excited about is my new wedges.
Speaker 1:There's something about wedges that intrigue me so much. I love them. I'm really excited about those and I don't really know why I'm so intrigued by them, but I am.
Speaker 2:I love wedges, but usually from like Bojangles or somewhere. I was going to say KFC wedges or that's my kind of wedges, aren't they?
Speaker 1:We hadn't talked about food. It had to come into play at one point.
Speaker 2:I know I'm not as hungry tonight.
Speaker 1:I ate a bunch, so it's already after midnight Just letting you all know it is these go so late.
Speaker 3:Barely, just barely like I can see you over there, like crashing. This is what happens when we all play cod. That's very true.
Speaker 1:No, but what? What's even worse, though, is the late nights out here yeah because it'll be like 1 am. It's like I just turn the lights back on, nobody's gonna complain, it's fine. And and you're like you've played every closest to the pin and you're like, holy crap, it's 3am when did that happen? But yeah, Will's a little bit of a lightweight when it comes to staying up late.
Speaker 2:I value sleep you get up at the crack of dawn you get up at the crack of dawn and you have to.
Speaker 1:Well, but he also has a job he has to be up for at a certain time. We don't really.
Speaker 2:It's a little different loose term there, if we have to do or not well, so it's not like you got to be up every single day.
Speaker 1:It's 6 30 no it's like it's. It's a little more leniency to an extent. I just obviously gotta get stuff done.
Speaker 3:It's different on as soon as those kids walk in the door, like I cannot oh yeah, you can't take any time.
Speaker 1:I can't slow play my day like it is like 100 full throttle from like 100 there was even we had.
Speaker 3:I had an issue today before the bell rang that I was already gotta be the worst.
Speaker 1:One right administration, that's gotta be the worst time I'm walking to my classroom from my truck and already it started like I haven't even, like I just finished coffee. Well, good thing you got that, I would say.
Speaker 3:At least you finished coffee I don't even think it like has hit my digestive probably not, probably not, and I walk in and there's just I'm like, are we really?
Speaker 1:it is 7 40 but not only that guys, it's tuesday, like we got a lot of the week left, like chill, like my favorite thing I tell my students is like do, do you think I want to do this?
Speaker 3:Of course, not Do I want to deal with this? Because they get mad at me if I'm like, all right, we got to go and I'm like, do you think I want to walk up there?
Speaker 1:I'd rather not Like if y'all would just act straight. I wouldn't have to worry about it.
Speaker 3:I wish that I showed up like 10 minutes not to see this, yeah but at the same time you're sitting there thinking I'm glad I wasn't here.
Speaker 1:10 minutes.
Speaker 3:But you know, high school student, they don't 100.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, that's that, but there's no thought process behind it.
Speaker 3:No their future is friday and yeah, and whatever happened to that moment, their future is three.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know like waiting for that bell to ring so I can get home and play video games, like that's what most of those kids' future is.
Speaker 3:It's all they care about. I love it, but there are some days. Some days are worse than others.
Speaker 1:There's been a few days like I'll get a text and it's like it's been a day.
Speaker 2:And I'm like yeah, I've been hitting golf balls. It's not as bad. We're appreciative that somebody like you is trying to shape the next generation.
Speaker 1:Appreciative of teachers. What was that?
Speaker 3:whale. I don't know about somebody like him.
Speaker 1:That's a little different.
Speaker 3:I don't know what we're making my classroom management out to be like.
Speaker 1:I'm not worried about your classroom management, it's just you don't have to also give your true personality in your classroom.
Speaker 2:Are you showing them Star Wars?
Speaker 1:No, Okay, good, gosh, you should Teach the kids.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad you're not got Star Wars going in there.
Speaker 1:No, so this age, though, they could be the biggest into Star Wars, like more than you'd ever know, and you wouldn't even know it.
Speaker 3:Well, actually I do show clips because there is parallels government-wise, because I teach government.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, 100%, because there's so many things within Star Wars.
Speaker 3:I actually took a class in college because I studied political science. I took a class that was called Star Wars and it was a political science elective class.
Speaker 1:I would have showed up to that class. I didn't show up to a lot of classes, I just showed up to that class.
Speaker 3:It was an elective course. It wasn't part of the core curriculum, but you and I thought that's a bit much.
Speaker 2:I have one question were there any girls in this class?
Speaker 3:yes okay you had to think of me.
Speaker 1:No, no, no there's, it's probably not the ones that I was going for. Okay, I'm not very sure you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Like they're very insightful.
Speaker 1:I don't mean that mean it's just the stigma of the girls that are into. That is very different, I mean he's not denying it.
Speaker 2:No, no, he agreed with you.
Speaker 4:He agreed with it, 100% yeah.
Speaker 1:I wasn't there, but I feel like I can picture who it was Like the type of people in that class Like I could see it.
Speaker 3:Oh, yes, and it was awesome.
Speaker 2:It was awesome.
Speaker 3:It was awesome I wouldn't have it any other way.
Speaker 1:That's how it should be yeah, I think I'm gonna put that on the back burner for a little bit longer now no, so to me, if you were into any type of sci-fi, you you would get into it, because it's everything else feels like it built off of something star wars, yeah like. I don't like star trek though you're one of the other, though I don't feel like you can like both.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree I don't really know what either is or so you could tell me the same thing.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't know but I feel, but I feel. The difference in that, though, is star wars movies, star trek is tv let's say star trek.
Speaker 2:Is that a spock or whatever?
Speaker 1:yeah, okay, so I kind of know a slight little bit but that was tv, like I feel like it was easier to follow. Yeah, because Because it was just readily available, the other wasn't. But again, like I said, my brother Brad, he is not into anything like that, he doesn't care for the Marvel stuff, no, but that's the perfect example of what I'm thinking of.
Speaker 2:It's so weird. I was the same way growing up Star Wars, the Marvel stuff, all was the same way growing up star wars, the marvel stuff, all that was kind of the nerds they've done that. But man wrestling was cool, we watched that I watched wwe like that age though, and brad's the same age.
Speaker 1:That age was very different. Like wrestling was a huge, but why was?
Speaker 2:that for the cool kids. But we thought this other it wasn't, it shouldn't have been. It was it's all comic-con.
Speaker 1:You thought it wasn't yeah, because I tell brad that too, like those, those guys that you see now that still think they're super cool, which Brad is not in it. So the show we went to most recently over in Asheville the age of Brad, but the guys that are the diehard fully in it, they still live in mom's basement. It's a different type of thing, but no, I mean Brad's a fan.
Speaker 2:Maybe it depends on what level you get in. Maybe that's what makes a difference.
Speaker 1:Also, brad still loves old wrestling. He tells me all the time I'm watching Raw from 1995. I mean, he's literally watching stuff from way back then.
Speaker 2:But it is so funny that you said that's old wrestling from 1995.
Speaker 4:That sounds so weird to me. I know it is but it doesn't seem like it should be.
Speaker 1:That's 30 years ago.
Speaker 2:I'm 38, so I'm eight years old. I was watching, probably that wrestling.
Speaker 1:No, I agree, but still that's old WWF. Yeah, 100%, World Wildlife Federation. I can remember the Panda logo when it came out. They're like. You have to change this.
Speaker 2:How did it go that many years, though? That's a whole other topic. We ain't got time for that when one got more popular than the other.
Speaker 1:they're like nope, can't do it. I guess Started getting notoriety pulling it.
Speaker 2:Did somebody start calling the World Wildlife Federation going? Is this the WWF?
Speaker 3:How dare you have Hulk Hogan or somebody doing this and they're like sir, we're saving pandas.
Speaker 1:What do you mean, Like this is not the same thing You're wanting to call Vince, not us.
Speaker 4:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I haven't watched wrestling in years. I think I'd rather watch the old than the new.
Speaker 4:but I don't even know what it's like anymore.
Speaker 1:I don't either. The new, like going to shows, is still fun.
Speaker 3:I. The new going to shows is still fun.
Speaker 4:I'm sure.
Speaker 1:But the new to me, it's the same way with all sports. I don't feel that that to me, is not a sport, but there's so much athleticism. It's the same way of. It's so much more over the top than what it was Like when Brad was watching as a kid. It was much more slowed down. It was much more you know the moves were very simple.
Speaker 2:It was characters, though, with your stone cold and your rocks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean so there's characters now, but I don't feel like they're as truly in-depth. There's some that are a lot, that aren't.
Speaker 2:Will's getting sleepy over there I am.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know what time it is. Yeah, our lights went off. Well, I will say thanks to Will for coming on, because it's been fun. It has been fun this has been awesome the fact that we got to talk about Star Wars. I feel like I've succeeded. It was great.
Speaker 3:We said before or during the beginning of the show, your views are going to go up and we're reaching a different audience.
Speaker 1:But I feel like there's going to be a lot of downloads from a certain IP address and it's going to be yours, it's going to be yours. I mean it's going to be all ever gets me back on here. I mean that's really like well, listen, you have an open invite. Like you're welcome anytime, like I think it was playing.
Speaker 3:It was a lot of fun, so I'll take success of the podcast now for good for good gotcha gotcha, just like I'll take success of the range for good enough fair enough, but the failures of both do fall upon their shoulders.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Gotcha, I understand, that's fair.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I feel like that's fair.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I'll agree to that. You know, I was sitting here thinking like the downloads are going to go up and we're having fun, and then we got into Star Wars stuff and I went phew.
Speaker 3:Yeah. There goes that I thought it was some.
Speaker 1:That's a minority group. We know that.
Speaker 2:But that's the group. If you get them, they're locked up forever. Oh, you get in them, they'll build you.
Speaker 1:We'll have to be doing a Star Wars segment for 20 minutes. We're going to have a separate podcast.
Speaker 3:Tempt me with a good time. I know seriously. I bring stuff out of the archives that you guys don't even know about.
Speaker 2:We're just going.
Speaker 1:I'll invite Dave and he's like, yep, still haven't watched it, that's all.
Speaker 2:he's going to come in and say If you guys leave my opinion, let me know. I'll just be over here watching TV.
Speaker 3:Have you seen? And I have to leave after this. I literally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got an early morning I can feel the sun rising.
Speaker 4:It's not that late, jeez.
Speaker 1:God, you're such an old man. After we've talked about how old we are, you're the old man.
Speaker 3:There's this podcast I listen to. It's called the Ryan Rosillo Podcast. Yep, he used to be an ESPN analyst.
Speaker 2:We'll say I know the name, but I don't know why.
Speaker 3:He does sports podcasts now. Yeah, it's really really good. I think it's awesome. At the end of every episode he does a 25 to 30-minute segment of life advice, and so what it is is listeners submit questions like life advice questions, and I sometimes, if I don't like the guest he has on, I'll just skip.
Speaker 1:Just to that.
Speaker 3:It is so funny and it's like generally pretty good advice and I just laugh really hard and I hope that this podcast can get to a point where we have viewers from where was, like australia sending in uh, listen we.
Speaker 1:We have listeners in the philippines. I was gonna say random places was argentina.
Speaker 3:I don't know how we have an argentina.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I thought uh, vietnam, there's a couple like netherlands like there's some weird like out there that I'm like cool, we care about you too. 100%, come to 4U Golf. I wonder are they listening to it translated, because that's got to be difficult.
Speaker 2:If there is, I want to hear that.
Speaker 3:Me too. I don't, because I'm not going to understand it. I don't care, I still want to find us on.
Speaker 1:Top Tracer. Top Tracer yep on the app or on the website or on there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, social media.
Speaker 1:Listen, only the only and I say only public Top Tracer range in Western North Carolina Period, like there's no, nobody else. We're holding on to that. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, but again real quick Want to say thanks to Will for being on the podcast.
Speaker 2:self-invite hey, just so you know, I've been here for 20 episodes. I've not once got a thanks for you. You will never get one.
Speaker 1:I told you I'm special, apparently, but the thing is like we got will on here. We didn't talk baseball at all no, we didn't that is odd.
Speaker 2:We just well baseball season's kind of well, it's so early especially for pro baseball.
Speaker 1:Like we're, we'll get into baseball 100%, so obviously we're gonna have Will back plenty of times. We've got a few other people we wanna have gotta get Paul. We may get a fourth setup just to have both. I mean that could be fun too. That would be fun. I don't know how I'm gonna edit that, but it's gonna be. Honestly, when you have Paul on here, I may just come to say you just want to be here and watch a lot.
Speaker 3:No, his storytelling is like next level.
Speaker 2:Phenomenal yes, it's next level, I agree, I'm just going to sit back and listen to the stories.
Speaker 3:It's unbelievable when we would ride in the buses with him.
Speaker 1:Oh, my gosh the stories. There's so many stories.
Speaker 3:I would sit up front and just be like asking him stuff.
Speaker 1:please tell me more you feel like a child, I know, and you're just like give me more info, but he knows everybody and has been everywhere he does and he's like the rule of three with Paul, he knows everyone in the world. The rule of three. I fully believe that within three people like we could connect almost everyone 100% so yeah, again thanks to Will for being on here. Please go home, get some sleep.
Speaker 2:Go home, get to bed. We're going to be up for a while. Take care of the children in the morning.
Speaker 1:Yeah, children, his coffee and his starting his truck. I don't know, he's got nothing else.
Speaker 2:No, his children at school.
Speaker 1:He's not taking care of them, all right, but I will say thanks everybody for joining us again and we will see you next week, yep. Thanks everybody for joining us again and we will see you next week, yep, thanks everybody.