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Balls, Brackets, and Breakfast Foods: The Sports Podcast That Doesn't Take Itself Too Seriously
The madness of March college basketball takes center stage as we break down the surprising dominance of the SEC with seven teams advancing to the Sweet 16. We examine controversial officiating moments, particularly Maryland's contentious win over Colorado State that featured what many consider a missed travel call on the game-winning shot. This leads us to a broader discussion about basketball officiating trends and why certain violations seem to get overlooked in crucial moments.
A fascinating development in college athletics emerges as we discuss St. Francis's unprecedented decision to drop from Division I to Division III following their NCAA Tournament appearance. This move signals the growing challenges smaller institutions face in the evolving landscape of college sports, particularly with the financial demands of the NIL era.
The conversation shifts to professional golf as we celebrate the TGL's first championship, with Atlanta Drive GC claiming the inaugural title. We explore how this innovative format brings team dynamics to a traditionally individual sport and why it might represent an important evolution for golf viewership in our time-constrained world.
Personal experiences coaching youth sports provides a window into how today's screen-focused children approach physical activities differently than previous generations. The joys and challenges of T-ball coaching reveal both humorous moments and meaningful insights about child development through sports.
As baseball season approaches, we debate the unique tradition of varying outfield dimensions across different stadiums—is this charming tradition or a fundamental unfairness? The Dodgers enter as favorites, but we consider whether their star-studded roster will translate to championship success or if injuries and other factors might create opportunities for other contenders.
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welcome back to the non-mean podcast here with tyler and david. Once again, you don't get two weeks in a row of your name first, just gonna throw that out there oh come on last week is honestly an accident. I just went with it, so it just kind of rolled on.
Speaker 2:You know, I listened back to it and I was like something sounds great.
Speaker 1:It just sounds really good. But thank you guys for joining us again. We're back for like week 19 or 20 or we're somewhere in those that region. But real quick, I Real quick. I want to say thank you to our sponsor, 4u Golf, proudly taking care of us from day one. If you haven't checked them out, check them out online or in person. It's 4U Golf F-O-R-E the letter U golf828.com. 700 Old Hendershaw Highway, brevard, north Carolina, doing a lot of fun stuff. I know they just started a basically March Madness style golf league. Yep, two years in a row. Yeah, so tournament style, a lot of fun, competitive, something different instead of just out here. You know you hit balls into a field.
Speaker 2:No, we're gonna get more fun we got a lot of stuff like the guys that go home the first night don't like it as much, but play better, be better. That's all I got to say.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry come back here, practice next year you're better for the tournament, that's right, but no, it's. It's a lot of fun hanging out with with a lot of these guys and just seeing like this is more than just coming here practice like it becomes a competitive and a game atmosphere and you know a lot of guys are enjoying it and there's money on the line to win. I mean winter's. Winter's going to go home with $500. $500.
Speaker 1:That's a good price $100 for your team to enter, so $50 a person because it's two main teams. Winter's going to go home. Basically $200 for each person. That's a good price, $500. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean we're doing first, second and third place prizes, so it's got to be back out here because we're getting college night going.
Speaker 1:College night is back. Brevard College is going to be back on property which they always bring a ton of people, but it's always fun. They will be out here and this place will be slated. Slightly packed, which is a blast.
Speaker 2:Turn on the music. Love having those guys out here because they are super appreciative.
Speaker 1:That is a group I never expect to be as kind and nice as they are. That is a group I never expect to be as kind and nice as they are. Like they come out here and they're super respectful. They for the most part pick up after themselves Like they're. They don't leave it trashed, they don't like it's. It's actually been a fun group to to get to partner with and see kind of that that grow and all the stuff that we've done with them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and actually so before we've done college night monthly, we're gonna do it weekly, right now for like the next six weeks or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is exciting, I think. I think the kids will love it. They, because every time we do it, they're like, hey, when are we doing it again? I'm like it's not up to us. Like you got to talk to your people you know we'll do it.
Speaker 2:The biggest challenge when we have college night out here. We get the speaker on, we get the music going. So what music do you play? I never know like. You have all these playlists on Spotify we always do clean music. We do. Yeah, we're family-friendly.
Speaker 1:Family-oriented family place. So we're always going to think of that. But there's not just a great go-to playlist, no, that, you just let it run.
Speaker 2:It's when you find something good. There's always some stuff in there that's you know too old, or the kids don't know. And I said kids like I'm some old man, I'm not that old man I'm not that old yet I'm 35.
Speaker 1:Okay, you're 30, you will be 39.
Speaker 2:That's several months away. That's not that far. That's several months away.
Speaker 1:You're getting old.
Speaker 2:Listen, my dad told me a while back, he's like making a joke about getting old. He's like you're getting close to middle age. I said, if I live to be 100, middle age isn't until 50. That's true, so I am still good.
Speaker 1:That's optimistic. For who? Not for me? I'm good. That's optimistic. I'm good In this day and age 100 is not likely.
Speaker 2:So you're telling me I'm going to die young.
Speaker 1:Well, you're not young.
Speaker 2:You're not young now, so you already missed that I guess I got to go, I got to do some stuff.
Speaker 1:I got to go get the bucket list.
Speaker 2:I gotta go get some sub-dives, since you're telling me I'm old and I might die tomorrow, I mean wow, I didn't say tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Jeez, that escalated way quicker than it should have.
Speaker 2:I was just saying, you know, a hundred tomorrow. What's I mean?
Speaker 1:You got. That's a big difference. Like we're getting a little negative there. Okay, geez. Sorry, I get a little dramatic sometimes, you don't say.
Speaker 2:You don't say my wife tells me that a time or two.
Speaker 1:I can imagine. I can imagine. Yeah, so college night's back on property. We've got tournament starting, now Cobra's back in April.
Speaker 1:They'll be back here for kind of a very minimal event. Basically, the first time they were here a few weeks ago was way better than most people thought it was going to be. That we had to reschedule a second week this month because not everybody got in that wanted to get in. So, yeah, I think there's actually one slot open still. So if you're listening and you're wanting to check out some of the newest Dark Speed Adapt line of Cobra, we will have it here about 1 o'clock this Saturday and then again at the end of April.
Speaker 2:April 26th. We're going to be busy this Saturday with we've got an opening day in Little League April 26th. We're going to be busy this Saturday with.
Speaker 1:We've got opening day and Little League. Yeah, yeah, that's going to be a busy day. I'm already thinking about bouncing back and forth between 100 places. Yep, I'm going to be out there.
Speaker 2:Starts at 8 that morning, right early that morning and got a home run derby my daughter's in and game.
Speaker 1:Well, so that all starts at like eight, 30. We have to be there Eight 30 is what they're stating, and then that all starts at nine 30. Your team doesn't play till like five 30 to five, five.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got to be there at like eight 30 home run Derby at 1130. And then when her team don't play till five, yeah, and then it's like all right well I guess we'll go. I'm gonna find something to go do something I don't know I'm on the board with t-ball we're. We play at 10 30, so like we're 10, 30 and go home, you're out yeah, we're.
Speaker 1:We're pretty pretty in and out.
Speaker 2:So we was talking a minute ago. I think you need to share a little bit with the people about your your T-ball team you're coaching this year.
Speaker 1:There ain't much to share. It's hey guys, let's make it through. I mean it's Well. So what is this?
Speaker 2:Well, I guess technically Four through six is what my team is. I only have, you don't have any that are still three, that are almost four. No, because I know they can play two.
Speaker 1:All of mine are either just turned four or have been four, and then my oldest is six, so you got a little older kid that can help.
Speaker 2:I have one and he's never played before oh well, that's a lot of kids, so it's not like.
Speaker 1:I've got this team. That is just all kids that have played. I mean, which, my youngest? He's never played before. This is his first year, he's four, but I first year he's four. Um, but we, I mean, we do a lot of stuff at home. He, he loves to hit and throw and whether it's basketball, baseball, whatever, he's always doing something. But, yeah, a lot of the kids you can tell, like, the first time they picked up a baseball is when I handed them one at the first week of practice, and they're like those are what I do.
Speaker 2:I haven't done that in several years, yeah, and now I've little boys that will be getting older. I'm not a baseball guy.
Speaker 1:I love baseball. Baseball is an awesome sport. I love it, I love to watch it, I love to talk about all that stuff. I was never really a baseball guy, so I don't teach it. That's not my go-to.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be. You know, I've done softball so long. I'm going to be trying to teach my boys softball stuff which is similar, but I'm going to have to learn. You know the differences.
Speaker 1:A little more. Get back in that mindset if they decide to pitch.
Speaker 2:That's where it's going to be very different for you because y'all have done so much softball pitching to teach baseball, pitching and softball, because it's natural but it's not natural.
Speaker 1:Arm movement is the problem. It's natural how you throw things. But then with baseball when you start figuring out where the arm slot is and how the hand, there's just very difference. Especially when you've done so much with softball and all the private coaching y'all have done with your daughter. None of that really applies, because it's such a different movement those are so very different.
Speaker 2:Speaking of that, I was thinking about this. So my daughter had a pitching lesson tonight and I think I've told you a little bit about the guy. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So he played baseball right at the edge of minor you know he was AAA or right at the edge of majors. I mean his daughter played software, coached software. But I'm telling you, you, the guy is the greatest coach I've ever been around, just both with. You know, teaching life, but teaching softball I mean we went in there tonight, we was there an hour and I think he fixed anything. You could think every I mean little like he just looked and little things like, oh, do this, oh, yeah, here's what you're doing.
Speaker 1:That's just, and nothing against him. But there are just some people that that's just how it works oh, he's like there's something that you just can.
Speaker 1:you just see things differently, and it's for different sports. I mean, obviously for him baseball, softball, like he's he's good at seeing that. But I mean I've had coaches of different sports that I'm like I don't even know if you know how to do this, like they may be super good playbook or or it's just super good with people, but then as far as like actually be able to teach how to do something, they just never were very good at that. And then I've had the very opposite coaches that literally anything you go to them with like hey, I'm struggling with this, well, it's because of this this with like hey, I'm struggling with this, what's because of this, this, this and this?
Speaker 2:and it's like, okay, I never even knew that was a thing, let alone that I need to work. I mean, he, he relates stuff back to god and the bible even too, which I enjoy as well, and just talks about, you know, tying everything to life and softball. And and he was saying some stuff tonight and I was like man, you're speaking to me like there was things that happened with me on the softball field these past few days or whatever, and like he would say something random. I'm like, dang, that's right in line with what I'm having what I'm trying to do about that now, and it's just, and and I mean I, it's keith troutman.
Speaker 2:If anybody needs a softball coach, keith troutman, he's house of power and mills river. He's, he's not there all the time. Is there some dude's amazing, and I mean there's some other baseball guys there too that are great. But I deal with some of the guys, but just want to throw that in there because I mean I was amazed. I mean I've been amazed several times, but tonight was like wow, that's good stuff. So maybe you need take your T-ball team up there. Nope.
Speaker 1:Let him just work. Let's work with all the T-ball team. Listen, I told you before we started I've got one kid in particular. He's never played anything, anything at all, like he's never stepped foot on any kind of field, never touched. It doesn't feel like he's even touched a ball Like day one. When I handed him one it was a foreign object. He's a little ways from needing the private coaching. He just needs to get some immersion first, maybe, maybe it's good to just be outside and touch grass.
Speaker 2:Well, maybe you should give some private lessons outside of your practices Basketball. Sure, I can do that. No, you can do basketball.
Speaker 1:I can do basketball. I've done basketball. I did private lessons for basketball. That's been several years ago, but I did that for a while but baseball no, you know, I'm amazed.
Speaker 2:I've tried to use before in different instances, whether it's batting or whatever, and be like or we're pitching too this way. But you know, hey girls, have you ever skipped a rock? And they're like no, no, I'm like well, they're like no, no, like well, that'll work never mind.
Speaker 1:Let me think something else the these are the ipad. Babies like these are the the screen, like the screen kids. That's what that's how they grew up is, which it can be fault on our own as parents or, you know, even like I have to say good or bad, but at the same time, sometimes it's good but unfortunately, the way technology has moved, you just have to know it. You have to there. Well, we're just not going to use technology, then you're not going to know how to do anything because everything is switched to that.
Speaker 2:There's nothing paper, so it's all that you know, both of our kids went to a Christian school for a few years. Wasn't real long, but they didn't use computers there. And when my daughter switched out of there back into a public middle school and they use computers, correct, she kind of had to figure it out a little bit. She's a little behind and I didn't realize because the, the, the Christian school, was kind of ahead on uh several learning.
Speaker 1:Learning, yeah, as far as the computer stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, curriculum, that's the word I was trying to look for, um, but then you don't realize. Yeah, the world uses technology and so if you're not using that, you're falling behind.
Speaker 1:So fortunately, my oldest still being elementary school, he's third grade. They're using it and he's learning it, but that's kind of the year that they kind of started officially.
Speaker 2:So he didn't miss a lot of it.
Speaker 1:Before that, but not a ton. So, no, he's not really missed it much. It there's a little bit before that, but not a ton. So no, he's not really missed it much. So it's a little bit easier for him Because I know, like you talk about, they do keyboarding, they do this and this, but it's the time they're starting to learn it. Three years from now it's much more difficult. It is.
Speaker 1:You've got to have it, which Obviously your daughter's plenty smart to handle that. It's just figuring some things out. Oh yeah, she got it quickly.
Speaker 2:It was just oh. Now I have to do it this way, right?
Speaker 1:So different On her computer, did she?
Speaker 2:fill out a bracket. She did fill out a bracket actually, but I don't know what it said. She had to do it at school. Really, they didn't want it at school.
Speaker 1:They didn't want school. They didn't want to school. Okay, so to me, either in pe or in math or something you should have to a bracket. Yeah, like that, just feels like to me you should.
Speaker 2:What subject does that fit in? It could do, it could be history. Maybe we're making history here depending on who wins and who loses, and we'll make a new subject.
Speaker 1:I don't care, I mean bracketology 101. Like this listen bracketology been on ESPN for a long time.
Speaker 2:They could definitely do it you sound like your buddy on there that you'd love so much. Which one On ESPN Bracketology guy? Oh, yeah, lunardi or whatever his name is Joe.
Speaker 1:Lunardi, I'm not a fan.
Speaker 2:Well, well, this team should be in. Hey, they were like the 12th team left out, like they weren't even close. Why are we talking about them? So all right we're here.
Speaker 1:You brought up the bracket I did bring it up because it's been sec still has seven teams. It's not been as hectic as we thought it could have been it really hasn't.
Speaker 2:All number ones are still there we haven't seen that yet.
Speaker 1:I'm hoping we see some craziness come up in the next few days. But you are right. Go back to what you just said the SEC still has seven going to the Sweet 16.
Speaker 2:Seven going to the Sweet 16. They had eight go the second round. Seven move on to the Sweet 16.
Speaker 1:What I will say about this. So they were good, just go ahead and say they were good. Negative, negative, negative. Go ahead Ole Miss. I'm not sold on yet. If they beat Michigan State, I think Michigan State's a solid team. I can start to maybe say that.
Speaker 2:Okay, so if they beat Michigan State, they're good.
Speaker 1:They beat North Carolina, who played one game all year where they didn't look like North Carolina.
Speaker 2:But here's the deal when Ole Miss beat North Carolina, North Carolina was playing like the dream team. So I think, I think Ole Miss beat the dream team.
Speaker 1:You can't play one game a season, really well, and be like, hey, we're the dream team, like that was the meme going around. But if Carolina plays four minutes in the first half of good basketball, they could win that game.
Speaker 2:Who was it Carolina beat that night? I can't even remember now.
Speaker 1:In the first four. I can't even remember now In the first four. Yeah, san Diego State, maybe that was part of it. Good chance, very good chance, which Carolina shot the ball. Well, that game it was the first time all year. But this looked like what we saw from Carolina all year, like they're not a first half team. They come out second half trying to get hot and it's like too little, too late.
Speaker 2:You can't do that every game. I expected several SEC schools to move on. We set the under over at five and a half.
Speaker 1:I think of what you said.
Speaker 2:I said I expected eight or more to go second round and eight went. I'm probably a little bit more surprised that seven still hung on to go to the Sweet 16. And Arkansas beating St John's is one that really surprised me.
Speaker 1:So that's really the biggest upset I feel like we've had. We've had a couple of lower seeds win, but it didn't feel like it was as much of an actual upset that one felt to me like, hey, that's a pretty big upset. Well, what I'll say? Arkansas beating Kansas, that's a good first-round win. Arkansas beating St John, that's a great second-round win.
Speaker 2:Do you think, st John, that's a great second round win. Do you think, st John?
Speaker 1:was seeded too high, I don't. I think St John's a good team. You think they were that good Probably the last number two to me in my mind. You gotta think they play in a decent conference with UConn Creighton. They play some good teams. They won 30 games this year.
Speaker 2:That's hard to do in whatever league you play in 30 is a lot, because you do have non-conference. Now, to be fair, isn't their league all out now? Now they are, yes.
Speaker 1:So they did play good, but UConn lost to Florida.
Speaker 2:I don't really say by two, it was really more by five.
Speaker 1:They hit a three at the end, which meant nothing. Florida is predicted by a lot of people to win it all. So you know, whatever Creighton lost to Auburn another team that's one of the better chances to win it all. So I mean, two of those were to number ones and we're going to show you why we're here. It's been a little bit easy for some of them so far, so I'm hoping this week we see a little bit of trouble. I'm excited that Kentucky's still in it. If I'm Florida, I'm telling the refs hey, watch for the travel Because they play Maryland. Oh yes, I saw the last second shot. I saw all of it going down how they beat Colorado State. I didn't actually see the shot until just a couple days ago.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to take what I told you earlier.
Speaker 1:Well, really yesterday so.
Speaker 2:I watched the replay. My initial thought is he traveled. And I went back and watched it again and I said well, okay, maybe they're counting that a gather step. That's the only way I could come up with. He didn't travel.
Speaker 1:But in college basketball there is no gather step. We do not start a gather step until the NBA. High school and college is both two steps If college doesn't have gather step the man traveled.
Speaker 2:There's no way around it.
Speaker 1:He takes three very large steps and then shoots the ball. Great shot. Don't get me wrong. For him to hit the shot contested the way he did great, but he really only got that shot because he traveled. Yeah, I mean To me it wasn't a, it was not one that we should miss.
Speaker 1:That's the thing that's an easy one, but again, again, a travel is not reviewable. We can't go back and overturn nope, sorry, he traveled. They're not going to overturn a game based off of that. You're going to be upset and you're going to say you know, we're going to petition to the ncaa and they may even come out and say, yeah, they missed the call and that's as far as it goes, like there's nothing else so was that?
Speaker 2:were they tied before that? I can't remember. Were they going to to go in overtime?
Speaker 1:No, Maryland was down by one.
Speaker 2:That's right, that shot won the game. Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1:It was 71-70. They hit it to win.
Speaker 2:That would be tough to take Now. I'm sure we could go through that game film and find travels or fouls or whatever on the other team that didn't get called.
Speaker 1:You can always go back and watch film and find stuff that wasn't called.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's hard to just say that one play.
Speaker 1:But when it's in that big of a moment, I know a lot of refs are like well, we don't want to be the reason that a game did this or this, but that was a blatant one. This was not a close one.
Speaker 2:So do you think the ref was kind of afraid to call it? Like what if I call this and then I look back at the replay and wrong?
Speaker 1:I don't know if that ref in particular, but I think a lot of times, yeah, refs are like I don't want to make this call now because it's too big of a moment. Yeah, then that just means the moment's too big for you and you don't need to be. You don't need to be there, like it's because you're gonna get as soon as you go back and look and it's like he pins it on his hip and takes a step.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, in college that's step one, but then he takes two steps. So, by rule of college, it's three.
Speaker 2:I do think the official gets less heat by letting it go and saying I missed it than if he calls it and was wrong, and was wrong. And that's where I think they do it.
Speaker 1:I agree, but to me it's like a travel is really not a hard call, that's not one that's really much up for debate, especially when you get into college, when you get into NBA and you have to really start looking at gather which. I hate the whole gather rule. I think it's so stupid. And even then those guys will gather and then still take three steps.
Speaker 2:Like six steps.
Speaker 1:There's so many videos that you can go watch of the NBA, and these guys are shuffling their feet and they're they're switching their pivot foot from heel to toe, which you're not supposed to like. They do all these things to me. Until they start making those kind of calls in the nba and cleaning up some of the game, I don't think we're going to see the game actually get better is that going to start trickling down to college?
Speaker 2:because yes, well, I was gonna say I feel like I see a lot more travels not called, especially on breakaway dunks.
Speaker 1:You still they still it, or something highlight plays especially as well as I think you're not going to see it because they they don't want to ruin a highlight, because that's what today is. Today is all about highlights. It's all about, you know, the flashy, this, the flashy that you know. Fine, I understand. That's kind of how the game has shifted. I'm okay with with the highlights, but not well, I don't want to ruin a highlight. I don't want to call a charge because now we messed up a highlight dunk. Or I don't want to call a travel because we mess up a play. It's like, well, if you did something, wrong.
Speaker 2:You did something wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but again, you made the statement before we started. One thing you feel like you've noticed more was moving screens. Every screen, a moving I think that is something that's trickled down from the nba and I'll say that on my own team because they've been doing that for years in the nba.
Speaker 2:A guy curls around guys trailing and they stick that hip out and I'm like all right, their feet stay still, but that hip comes out pretty far but goes really out there and I'm like all right, isn't that right there?
Speaker 1:what you're saying, hey, we can't do Supposedly, but in like an NBA. Well, if a star does it can't call foul on a star. You know that's what. Just play the game the right way. If you're a star, you're still going to be a star and the players will adjust to it.
Speaker 1:If you start calling those travels and those moving screens, the players will adjust, everyone will adjust, except for LeBron James, because he'll just cry about it. That's true. He'll retire soon, we don't have to worry about it. Which I will say Bronny's playing better. I've seen some little clips.
Speaker 2:He's playing better. I don't really watch him.
Speaker 1:And I'm not saying Bronny's going to be anything special. If he continues the path, he could give himself some minutes. I mean he could earn it. He could do better. I'm okay with that, but I just feel like we did it wrong from the beginning. You know, we we just did it off of well. Lebron was playing with his son yeah like. That, to me, was the wrong way to do it.
Speaker 2:Lebron made it that way it was his own doing correct, so he can't whine about it now. But but let's don't get too far away, because my Kentucky Wildcats are going to the Sweet 16. The first year Mark Pope was there. First team in NCAA history to make it this far with no returning players from the year before. I'm excited about it. I think they're going to win the championship. Here we go, let's go. You played two bad teams. Let's go, we're winning it all.
Speaker 1:We'll see after this week. Don't ruin my moment.
Speaker 2:You already told me I'm going to die tomorrow. Don't ruin my moment. We're winning the championship.
Speaker 1:You beat Troy. So Most people are going to say I thought that was a story from Roman and Greek times. They're not going to know that that was a school.
Speaker 2:I would not have known what you just said, so I would have known the school first. That's just in your mind, you are uncultured.
Speaker 1:And then they played Illinois, who has been just absolutely up and down all season.
Speaker 2:Illinois is one of those. If they got hot they could beat you. If they didn't, you had a chance they could lose to anybody. It's just one of those teams.
Speaker 1:I kind of feel that way about the whole Big Ten though.
Speaker 2:Visej, he hit 5-3, so I was a little worried about him. I was like, well, somebody, please step out on him a little bit more Now.
Speaker 1:I'll say this Kentucky plays Tennessee. They have beat Tennessee twice this year. Yeah, but it's going to be tougher.
Speaker 2:It's a different level in the tournament it's going to be tougher.
Speaker 1:So I don't personally think they beat them. I don't think they do. I think Tennessee is going to win that game. I think it's just a different time. I mean, it's hard to beat a team three times in a season.
Speaker 2:It's very hard. We're winning the chip right here we're winning all the way You're also on the same side as. Duke, I don't care as much as I am. We beat them once.
Speaker 1:We got it when you actually had healthy players. I don't care, listen, half the guys that played in that game early in the season aren't even healthy. That's very true. So I don't see that happening.
Speaker 2:No, I really didn't expect Kentucky to go this far because of injuries. I thought that was a decent team, but they don't have big-name players big stars.
Speaker 1:They're injured. I think if they were the three on any other side, they probably wouldn't be no, no, they're playing good. I mean looking at the three on the other side they might have UNC Wilmington Drake. They could probably beat that one. I don't think they beat BYU the same way Wisconsin did.
Speaker 2:That's Mark Pope's old school. So think about this this was kind of unique and I've seen this going around, where it seems like every team won. So Calipari everybody says Calipari left Kentucky. He got told to go ahead. He didn't leave Kentucky. Technically he left. No, he didn't.
Speaker 1:He chose to take the interview even after he said he was going to stay.
Speaker 2:No, so he took the interview. Kentucky founds out he took the interview and says you violated your contract. We don't have to pay you buyout anymore. Go ahead and go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because he's hurting for the money.
Speaker 2:And then he backs up and says I don't know, I really would like to stay. And they say, no, you've already broken it. Go ahead and go.
Speaker 1:It was time anyway, it was definitely time, but so Cal went to Arkansas.
Speaker 2:Arkansas is in Sweet 16. Where can we?
Speaker 1:send Hubert Davis. It's time, I don't know. It's time Maybe we'll find somewhere.
Speaker 2:So Arkansas made it Sweet 16. Pope comes to Kentucky they make Sweet 16. Byu, where Pope leaves, hires a new coach. They made it Sweet 16. They made it, so it was like all three schools got what they wanted. It felt like I think the guy at BYU is who their biggest donor wanted Correct, so he got a bunch of money. They got like the number one kid signed for next year already.
Speaker 1:He's been signed for a while.
Speaker 2:Yeah, at BYU, I mean whatever, but it seemed like everybody got what they wanted and I think that's very rare for first-year coaches having to build teams in the NIL area. Now, does that help new coaches or hurt them? Because you're going to lose all your players because they can transfer, but you can also go to all these other schools and get players, so I don't know which way it goes.
Speaker 1:To me it depends on how good you are at playing the game. Are you good at the NIL game, like Cal is, I guess? If you're good at that, which with what he did I don't know how great he was he kind of just took most of his team with him, like there are some other guys that came but he took a lot of Kentucky with him.
Speaker 2:No, I agree with that, it's a little bit different. He took those and the kids that were coming to Kentucky with him, correct?
Speaker 1:Yeah, he didn't do as much of the hey I'm bringing you know from all these other schools. It was kind of a lot of what. Again, cal's a great recruiter so I'm not really questioning on that side. But yeah, if you're good at playing the game, you can put a team together.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what I think is so impressive about what Mark Pope did. Nobody expected him to do anything, first of all, but this Kentucky team is made up from kids from like name a school, I mean random schools that just brought them together, and so I'm excited about it. We're winning the championship, connor, right now he's winning the championship. That's just a fan bias thing, though.
Speaker 1:No, it's not as a fan. We're going to win, they're going to win. As a fan, I want to fire Hubert Davis.
Speaker 2:Let's send him, we'll wait. Left McNeese or whatever.
Speaker 1:Where's that New State?
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's just send him up there. I mean never mind, no, he's doing a good job.
Speaker 1:You want him to stay.
Speaker 2:The only place I'd be okay sending him is Duke.
Speaker 1:No, Listen, he needs to be back as an assistant. He doesn't need to be leading a program. No, look, we don't Listen. After today we do not have a point guard on the roster.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm glad you brought that up because people have been trying to tell you all year long that the players are not getting it done. Hubert Davis finally stood up and said this man's not getting it done. He's out. We're going to get somebody to play somebody to get it done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I highly doubt Hubert's the reason he's leaving, other than the fact that Hubert doesn't know how to do NIL Now wait a minute. Hubert doesn't know how to do NIL Now wait a minute. Hubert Davis is the reason he's leaving, but it's probably not his words, Not him saying hey, you need to go.
Speaker 2:He probably said I don't want to play for you, no more, I'm out.
Speaker 1:I just feel like it's if Hubert would have took over 10 years ago pre-NIL, he maybe had a shot. I think it's too far past him. I don't think he's willing to. The only reason I think so, then, is because at that time you still had people coming there to play there, because it's carolina, because we just want to be there, because carolina, I guess. Yeah, the same way people went to kentucky but he's still gonna coach him place yes, but you have people that are bought in differently.
Speaker 1:These kids are bought in now because they are literally bought in do?
Speaker 2:I can answer that coach them, coach them. You know I got made fun of for my accent the other day by one of the girls on my team.
Speaker 1:I make fun of you guys for your accent all the time, so that's nothing new. That's so rude, but I'm glad these children are picking up on it.
Speaker 2:But I didn't say anything.
Speaker 1:even that country I don't even know where she said it, but you say stuff all the time and anymore.
Speaker 2:I just I used and I won't get no sense was where you were. I said where you were. That's not country. There's nothing country about that.
Speaker 1:But you probably said it country.
Speaker 2:I said it just like I just said it when you were. Maybe that's exactly how I said it.
Speaker 1:It's kind of out of context at this point, so it's a little different.
Speaker 2:But it's so funny when 12-year-olds make fun of you.
Speaker 1:Oh, they're the quickest to make fun of you. They don't care, they're brutal, they they have no remorse with that, they're just gonna say whatever they want to say. They do, which, again, fine, I don't. I'm fine with it yeah, it doesn't hurt my feelings only when I go home, sit there and think about what they say and just cry a little bit. Is that what you do? Yeah, you know, just gets to you after a while when you're, when you leave your um two-ball practice.
Speaker 2:You go home and cry for you.
Speaker 1:Go sit in your car and cry for a minute before you can leave no, because they're acting like ninja turtles, like our team name is ninja turtles, so that's all they do the whole time is act like they're.
Speaker 2:They're fighting things yeah, I could see that being a problem. Yeah, it is. You know, I actually went through hindsight 2020 wouldn't have done that the other day I went through all the league names in our league because we have 44 teams.
Speaker 1:T-Ball has some names.
Speaker 2:Everything baseball there were some names on T-Ball. I was like who come up with these?
Speaker 1:We've got some dino nuggets. We've got flying fish sticks. I mean, you name it, we got it. It's all over the place. Uncrustables is in there.
Speaker 2:I did see that that's in there there, yeah, so I mean, I do feel that we're lacking on logos.
Speaker 1:We should have done a better job of logos did somebody create logos? Well, all the t-ball teams are very just like. It's a home plate with the name I'm like all right, we could have actual logo we could have had fun with some logos with these teams.
Speaker 2:I was hoping your jersey would have like michelangelo on it or something, I think you should have the four.
Speaker 1:It should just be all four of them like that 's's. All it should be is four of their heads right across the chest. You know who that?
Speaker 2:is you?
Speaker 1:don't need to say Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 2:That would be the team I want to sponsor. Right there, dang right, ninja Turtles. I remember having a Ninja Turtles cereal bowl. You remember those? Did you ever have one of those?
Speaker 1:No, it looked like a turtle on its shell and you had its head on the end and you would like put your cereal in the middle of it. It's pretty cool. No, my parents just tell a story about ninja turtles and I'm sure brad's gonna remember this because we'll. We'll talk about it after this. Um about ninja turtle underwear and I wanted some turtle underwear and, for whatever reason, at that time we also had um like saloon doors into our laundry room.
Speaker 1:You had saloon doors in your house oh yeah, I don't know why this is early 90s. That's probably the thing back then, though maybe but I can remember there is a picture that my mom still has of me and my ninja turtle underwear, cowboy boots and a cowboy hat going through the saloon doors and so they talk. They talk about that usually around the holidays. That's kind of one of those things, things that kind of gets brought back up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we can do without that picture. We don't need to put that on social media. I was like four, maybe three. I don't know. I was little. I can't imagine you was ever that adorable. So come on, I am still adorable.
Speaker 1:Adorable is a very low level of attraction, so that's a very minimal thing. I'm sitting here drinking a yoohoo well, I did make fun of you a little bit ago. I called you like seven years old because, if it was up to you, your diet would be uncrustables and yoohoo listen, I have a iron deficiency.
Speaker 2:There's not enough in there to make it there's iron in this yoohoo, so I feel like I'm drinking.
Speaker 1:There's iron in a lot of things. There's iron in this yoo-hoo, so I feel like I'm drinking my own. There's iron in a lot of things. There's iron in some of those rocks out there.
Speaker 2:Do you want to go eat those? No, I don't really Okay.
Speaker 1:There's actually probably more in the rocks than there is in that yoo-hoo, listen.
Speaker 2:So we got to tell a story. We have a local Dollar General that's at, but it's been there a long time. It's in a busy spot but nobody ever stopped there, like.
Speaker 1:I didn't stop there. No, not really Well. So a local Dollar General is closing, and so they are in a everything must go stage.
Speaker 2:They're selling it all off, which is dangerous because you go in there and you feel like you're getting everything half off.
Speaker 1:I mean, you are getting everything half off, but you're spending way more money. You're still spending a lot. You know which is? So we decided, yeah, let's go buy a bunch of drinks, because obviously we'll sell the drinks, you know?
Speaker 2:yeah work out great. Well, we drink, you know, sodas and stuff here at the range or out here.
Speaker 1:We have, you know like we'll have order pizza or stuff out here, have drinks with pizza and you know, out here, working all the time, you just end up wanting something. So, yeah, we've got drinks in the fridge. Well, one.
Speaker 2:The fridge is slam full now but what is it slam full of? Is what's funny? Not?
Speaker 1:what we really were planning on buying, but um, if you were to open our fridge, you would think we'd have a red bulls partnership because it is slam full of red bull and it was kind of an accident that we bought as much as a few monsters very few we actually should have got more of those.
Speaker 2:We might have to go back and finish loading up well.
Speaker 1:So here's the thing everything they have is half off. So being able to buy most of these and then like 20 ounce sodas for just over a dollar, like you're not gonna find that anywhere else well, we got the red bulls for basically like two bucks dollar something, because it was like a dollar 50 or 70, I think, or something like that it was.
Speaker 1:It was something really really cheap. Now we will sell those out here, especially we talked about having college night we're probably gonna drink them all we have to sell them out of the fridge tomorrow night.
Speaker 2:That that'll probably do well you're gonna show up to college night tomorrow night. I'm gonna be running around. They're like everywhere.
Speaker 1:As long as you keep your clothes on. I don't care what you do.
Speaker 2:Run around all you want. Please make sure I keep my clothes on.
Speaker 1:Like I said, nobody wants to see that If I start taking clothes off.
Speaker 2:Please cut me off the Red Bull. Yeah, you might have found something beside Red Bull.
Speaker 1:I'm not really sure at that point. But yes, so walking You're like all right, just go grab another cart, like you guys had already started getting a few things.
Speaker 2:Just go grab another cart, load it full of drinks. I have never in my life pushed a cart that was that heavy, because the cart was literally to the top with Red.
Speaker 1:Bull. They have small carts Coffees. Theirs are not the full like Walmart grocery store big full-size carts.
Speaker 2:No, but if it was, we would have filled it up. We would have filled it up. Yes, we might go back and fill up another one.
Speaker 1:There's a good chance. I don't know where we're going to put it, though. Is the problem? There's not much room Listen.
Speaker 2:Red Bull, buy another fridge. If you go get a Red Bull every couple hours tomorrow, you're going to get all kinds of stuff done out here here, or I'm gonna have a heart attack one of the two, that's true.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't really feel like od'ing on red bull.
Speaker 2:That doesn't feel like that's a very good idea yeah, that would not, uh be fun, yeah, be like. Well, what? What happened to him?
Speaker 1:he had two red bulls I mean it'd take more two, but yeah, we've got enough in our fridge. I could have two a day for a while. It'd be perfectly. You know, I'll save a ton of money.
Speaker 2:Haley hates Red Bull. So I've really never drunk Red Bull or any kind of energy stuff and I mentioned having an iron deficient stuff and I feel tired, a lot and stuff and I'm finally I'm like that's it. I'm just let's drink some Red Bull. I got stuff to do. I've always said I can sleep when I'm dead, so let's just keep it going. And now I have enough Red Bull to literally do that, and you?
Speaker 1:wonder why I say you're not making it to 100.
Speaker 2:No, these are going to help me get there.
Speaker 1:Absolutely not. I don't think Red Bull markets saying hey, by the way, we're going to help you live longer Well, maybe they should.
Speaker 2:They market saying we give you wings Well let's see, I'm almost 39, not quite got a few months, so about another? What 61 years? When I turn 100, then I'll go to rebels. Hey look, we can start this campaign because your red bull helped me get here I don't think you make it that far if you have that many red bulls.
Speaker 1:But speaking of that, did you hear, have you heard of that story? The lady was like a hundred and something and she talked about what made her get there is she had a dr pepper a day. I did hear that and she's sitting there in the interview. She's mixing it up. She's got her dr pepper and she said my doctor told me to dr pepper. Listen, she didn't say that doctor told her to drink dr pepper, but she basically said the doctor said don't change what you're doing by the time Dr Pepper. She didn't say that doctor told her to drink Dr Pepper, but she basically said the doctor said don't change what you're doing. By the time you're 100 and something, do whatever you want. You've made it a long time.
Speaker 2:You've seen me drink a lot of Dr Peppers, so I think Dr Pepper probably will offset the Red.
Speaker 1:Bull. That's what I think is going to happen. I don't think that's how that works. What I think might have happened to her.
Speaker 2:She got confused, she thought she was at her doctor and she was really at the Dr Pepper plant or something and she's like oh, the doctor told me, Dr Pepper told me I should drink these. Yeah, and of course they do, because you're keeping them in business.
Speaker 1:You, and that old lady is like some Dr Hipper. Also going back to the tournament, because I found this very interesting the first four games that were pre kind of the round of 64. The worthless games Alabama State, st Francis was last second. Alabama State, hail Mary catches it, tipped around, makes a layup. St Francis, the team that lost. Officially, next year all of their sports are going D3. All the way to D3? D3. Why so? Their president, athletic director of the board, all the people basically came together and made a press release stating that the culture of basketball, the culture of sports, the nil stuff, the way things are going, they can't upkeep to the level that everyone else is doing, so they're just gonna drop. I kind of could see d2 like okay, you know, drop out of the d, but going all the way to d3. Most of those schools don't offer scholarships.
Speaker 2:Most of those schools like yeah, there's no athletic scholarships it's a whole different ball game they're just giving up on athletics in general almost way yeah well, they'll still have it, but it won't be anything but that competitive.
Speaker 1:They've been d1 for a long time, like they talked about before this year. The last time they were in the tournament was 91. So you're you're saying for at least D1 for the last 30 years, like that's crazy to just all of a sudden be like yeah, we're going D3. Like we have a local college in our town that's D3.
Speaker 1:They can't handle it, that's that's a that's a big thing. They're done with it. So obviously all those kids I mean D1 talent's not going to stay at a D3 school Like you're going to transfer out, you're going to go do other things and not even just basketball, all the other sports, like they're going to lose all of those. So everybody next year is going to be somebody new.
Speaker 2:Or the kids on the end of the bench. That really couldn't make it. Most of them probably go play D2 somewhere.
Speaker 1:Some of them will be stars, Maybe I basketball I mean. They were two points away from winning, so they were in the tournament.
Speaker 2:No, I guess they didn't win their conference right, Because then they would have been in the 64.
Speaker 1:They won the conference championship. They made it for winning the conference championship.
Speaker 2:I thought you was in the top 64 for that, not necessarily.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Wow, see, that's weird. I didn't realize that. I thought you was in the top 64 automatically for winning the conference championship, so they just had to put you in. You could still be a play-in game Technically. Yes, gotcha. Well, still, you won your conference champion, you're the champion of your conference. And then you say see you guys, I'm out.
Speaker 1:We're just going to leave. Yeah, because they were fourth in their conference, they ended up winning their tournament. Yeah, yeah, that's how they got in and then almost make it into the actual main draw of the tournament. And now they're hey, we're D3. Now, yeah, officially 2026. Yeah, I don't. That to me doesn't make sense. Apparently, it's happened at least one other time. There's a story that popped up, but I'm still confused by how you can just go from D1 to D3. Doesn't make much sense.
Speaker 2:I think there's got to be more behind it than that Sounds like From D1 to D3?.
Speaker 1:Doesn't make much sense. I think there's got to be more behind it than that. It sounds like the budgets are not good If you have to make those kind of I mean you're talking about all athletic scholarships across. Who knows how many sports they have.
Speaker 2:So it sounds to me like they went out and bought a bunch of players this year to win their conference tournament and they don't have enough money to pay them now. They're like oh, we're out guys yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 1:It's just one of those. That, to me, is just a very weird story, how you go from hey guys, we're in the biggest tournament there is, to now we're not even playing for anything. We still care.
Speaker 2:I think about this. I don't think it'll happen with bigger schools, but as schools, you know whenever it gets finalized that schools are paying the players themselves. So, like what happens to players in this instance, who we're going to pay you so much money oh sorry guys, we're out of money, we're out, we're going to D3 or find bankruptcy, whatever it is.
Speaker 1:What happens to these athletes now?
Speaker 2:because they are employees at that point. So if it's done in our contracts, I mean they'll have to be money. If you file bankruptcy and again I don't know how a school file, yeah but bankruptcy doesn't cover literally everything.
Speaker 1:It covers a lot, but it's not just a get out of jail free card like if there it's, there's a lot of things that still you would have to be iable to pay.
Speaker 2:I mean, you could sue me right now if you wanted, but you ain't going to get much out of me, so it wouldn't really matter.
Speaker 1:No, I mean. So that, to me, is where the biggest advocate for contracts in some way shape or form I don't care if it's with the school, whether it's with the collective, whether whoever. To me, it makes more sense that the school pays this stuff. Have that, the school pays this stuff. Have a little more control, like we talked about in the past. To me, even then, it's easier to follow the paper trail. Yeah, I think so, but I think it should be contracts. I think it should be whether and, in my mind, if we're going to do it this way, do it like all the pro leagues do. Here's this much guaranteed money within your contract. If you do these things, you get more money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that makes more sense.
Speaker 1:It's incentives to play because there's so many schools. When that happens, these guys just kind of give up. They've already got their money. Who cares when that happens?
Speaker 2:do players make more money or less money? Because I think they're going to make less money. That way, I don't think schools will have to pay as much, because right now you can tell whatever number you want and say this school offered me so much, so you need to offer me more.
Speaker 1:I think there will be potential for more money with the incentives. If they do it that way, if they go the incentive route, with the incentives I think there's potential for more money Doesn't mean they'll actually make more money, because I think the guaranteed money will go way way down, but then all the numbers are going to be out for real.
Speaker 2:Well, I guess I always wonder about that. Like Duke, they don't have to share a lot of information because they're a private school, so are they going to have to share what they pay their players, or not?
Speaker 1:Because a lot of other colleges will, because if you're an employee of a public school, They'll have to come up with something with it, because I think they're going to try to make it even across the board.
Speaker 2:There's no way that you say well, you don't have to do it, just because you're a private school, but then Carolina would have to do it.
Speaker 1:I think Duke doesn't have to technically say what they pay their coaches. So I don't know how that would work. That would be different.
Speaker 2:for sure I don't think they have to, but I think they do, okay, I didn't know if they.
Speaker 1:I don't know if they have to, but I think I, public facing, it would make more sense to go ahead and do it, because otherwise people are going to be very, very curious about it. But even then, public facing, they can report about any number they want to report. You can show a number, but is that really Because, again, you don't show the incentives, because that's not money that they're actually getting, until they actually get it, so that that's something that changes too, which most of these most of these schools and most of these coaches have incentive based stuff.
Speaker 1:The farther you make it, the more money you make.
Speaker 2:Duke's current men's basketball coach, John Shire. Yep, it's under contract extension that runs through 2028, 29 season, but details about his salary are not publicly available. So I guess they could do the same with players. If they don't change your rule, that would even be hard as a coach, Like how do you go try to hire him away if you're some other coach when you have no clue what he makes? I mean, I guess you know there's people around.
Speaker 1:If you were willing to go take the interview. You're going to tell him what you make Because you're going to probably try to get more the interview. You're gonna tell him what you make because you're gonna probably try to get more.
Speaker 2:I can say he could lie he could say, I mean, he could- but those guys know people that's what I think.
Speaker 1:I think there's people inside the circle, there's some phone calls like hey, you don't have to give me exact roundabout, what are y'all paying him? Well, that's, if I that's in any in any like the business world, if there's somebody coming to try to take you away from another business, they probably know somebody that's like, hey, are they making $100? Are they making $200? What are they at? I?
Speaker 2:can say if we search enough, there might be somebody Okay here. So almost a year and a half ago somebody reported he was making $7 million, $8 million annually, so there's somebody giving some guesses. So private schools I didn't think so. They do not have to report what they pay their employees because they're private.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, obviously the public sector has to report over certain numbers and whatever, depending on state law, even private companies. A lot of them don't have to, but they still do, like most of them are, because it's people are going to find out, people are going to figure it out, and then a lot of times it's almost better to kind of almost get ahead of it, because the assumption of, well, they're paying him $15 million, well, obviously not, like he's not established himself as a $15 million.
Speaker 2:I agree with that. I think that with some of the players too, it's going to be better to get out in front of it and just say, hey, here's what we're paying the player. You know, we've got the last night's no tonight's TGL playing up on the TV.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you've not been following, we're in the TGL finals this week. Monday and Tuesday was the finals. Today was the final right, correct they had. Well, it was the second match. There was a potential that they could have had a third match after this one, depending on the outcome.
Speaker 2:Well, so I didn't get to watch it.
Speaker 1:Atlanta and New York are in the finals. Atlanta won Monday One up 1-0. One by one point it's kind of worked out that these two teams are playing the best right now, that's my team. It's been tight.
Speaker 2:ATL, I'm with it.
Speaker 1:Let's go. It was a tight match last night. They won by 1. And I mean, kind of go ahead and spoil it for you. Congratulations to Atlanta for winning the first ever TGL championship. I don't know what perks or incentives they're getting for this?
Speaker 2:I don't know either. There's got to be something, because they wouldn't be doing it otherwise. We're watching the playback here, so it's already over, but we're watching it and they're already on hole 10.
Speaker 1:They're down 2-0. They're down 2-0. They're down to nothing.
Speaker 2:Some of them are going. They must have put it together here at the end.
Speaker 1:Right there at the end, yeah, which I feel like that's kind of what they've done.
Speaker 2:Maybe threw a few hammers out there to help or something. I don't know what they did. I think that is the most fun team to watch. That's what drew me to them to begin with. I didn't care if they were a winner or not. The first match I watched with them, even before they won, I was like this is a fun team to watch.
Speaker 1:Are you going to go buy you a 2025 ATL championship? I don't know. I feel like you have to. That was your team.
Speaker 2:I was concerned they were going to change up people. But yeah, I guess 2025 championship I could do that.
Speaker 1:I can't imagine anybody off this team leaves. Looking at these guys, they seem to have fun. It would blow my mind for them to split this team up and less. Like they were adding more teams and they need, like, another captain or something along those lines. That, to me, is the only way I think that team breaks up.
Speaker 2:I think we need the right people to listen to this podcast, because I need a box of Uncrustables and a carton of you. Who's carton that goes I don't know what do you call those things, whatever. Anyways, you need some Yoo-Hoos, I need some Yoo-Hoos, and I need an ATL 25 champion shirt or hat or something. That's what I need.
Speaker 1:You got any guesses on the price of that shirt? I got it pulled up right here we talking T-shirt, or what T-shirt?
Speaker 2:$125.
Speaker 1:That was ridiculous. No, that's way too high.
Speaker 2:Too high, way too high. I thought their shirts were like $50, $60 normally.
Speaker 1:Not the regular t-shirt. Oh, okay, they had some polos and like some other shirts that I don't even think I've ever even seen people wear.
Speaker 2:Well, so now.
Speaker 1:The Barstool jersey type shirt was $80.
Speaker 2:The problem is I need these guys to wear these shirts, and they won't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's something they've got to figure out. Moving forward is some type of uniform based thing. The one thing Liv does their logo is on their stuff. You may still have sponsorships with all these other things, fine, but our logos, your team logo, is going on your stuff. Or, like all the live guys, they wear the hats and it's like hey, this is part of your sponsorship, the the main logo on the hat.
Speaker 2:Is that to be fair? To be fair, I'm a kentucky basketball fan. I have kentucky basketball shirts, pullovers, whatever. I've never wore kentucky basketball jersey, so no, maybe it's similar you're still wearing that logo, the colors, like you're.
Speaker 1:You're following those things, like these guys on all the tgl teams. They are wearing kind of the colors but they never wear the logo. You've never seen the logo on these ones.
Speaker 2:Tiger's team was the worst. They're red or different shades.
Speaker 1:They didn't even match red is a harder one, I feel like, but they should all have the same shirt. White's pretty easy. Blacks can be a little bit different. New york was navy. There's not a whole lot of different forms of navy, no, but red has a lot of shades even uh boston, they were green, right yeah, yes and I feel like they did a good job.
Speaker 2:It was just tiger's team. Because of the sponsorships they had or whatever, they had to wear certain things here is something you could ball marker.
Speaker 1:We always need that. We always use where you go ball markers yeah, but it just doesn't get a commemorative thing, not necessarily like as a I'm going to use this probably more than I want.
Speaker 2:To pay for it 20 bucks four pack. You've lost your money, I think I'm paying 20 dollars for a ball marker. It's a four pack. You've lost your mind.
Speaker 1:I think I'm paying $20 for a ball marker. It's a four pack.
Speaker 2:I don't need four ball markers.
Speaker 1:With your team.
Speaker 2:This is your team. Let's be real.
Speaker 1:If this is really your team, you'll pay whatever you got to pay.
Speaker 2:Let's be real for a minute. How many times have we walked up on a green and I didn't have a ball? A million times Okay do you think I'm going to put that in my pocket?
Speaker 1:I never said you were going to put it in your pocket. I was just saying that's a commemoration. Where do you want to put it? In my bag? I would almost guess you don't have one in there.
Speaker 2:I have four of your golf ones in there, maybe a UK one, I can't remember if it's still there or not, do you?
Speaker 1:use it.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Here's what you do. You walk up to it. You say, hey, am I in your way? I'm going to go right or left. I'm going to do a putter width, or maybe two putter widths, and I'm going to stick my tee in the ground right there. I'm going to put my ball there.
Speaker 1:I hate the tee in the ground.
Speaker 2:Well, okay, it doesn't have to be a tee in the ground, but I can put my ball. I want nothing in the way, I like nothing to be there. Well, you're a, uh, one of these, um, people, people that care, no, no, no. You're one of these people that still, you know, thinks golf should just be for men. And, you know, wear pants where did that come from?
Speaker 1:because you can't have a ball in the green no, I, I don't even think of it as like a well, that's a rule of god, I don't even think of that. I like a well, that's a rule of God. I don't even think of that. I, just when I'm looking at a putt reading a green, I just like for nothing to be like a marker. You don't notice a ball or a tee. It's standing up too much. I just feel like you notice that. Listen, I've said many times already.
Speaker 1:I think it's stupid that PGA is wear pants only. I think it's the dumbest thing in the world. Like we go to the hottest places in the country in July and it's like, hey, you got to wear pants. What's the point of that? I think that's stupid, you know, it's this whole thing. Well, it's unprofessional to wear shorts why they're not wearing, you know, a pair of Nike gym shorts. They would still be wearing, like and they don't have nice stuff.
Speaker 2:It's not like we're telling them they have to wear shorts. Give them the option If the guys feel like. That's to me.
Speaker 1:I'm more of. It should be up to you. What do you want to wear? If you want to wear shorts, do it Now. Here's what I'm ready.
Speaker 2:Eventually it's going to happen, though. So this specific item is getting big and it's kind of even getting on the dressy side a little bit. I'm ready to play golf in sweatpants. Let's do it. Sweatpants with a pullover.
Speaker 1:Jason Day did recently. I remember that he had a sweatsuit. I think it was at Torrey Pines and there was a lot of people that that was an uproar.
Speaker 2:Why Didn't somebody wear joggers or something is that?
Speaker 1:what is that? Who? That was. No, that was a different thing, because that, um, several of the younger guys have been been into joggers and all the older guys are like, well, that's unprofessional too.
Speaker 2:You're showing your ankles. You can't do that?
Speaker 1:how dare you? That's provocative.
Speaker 2:Ankle showing is horrible you need it, the tall socks back on there, so the ankles can't be seen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just. It's such an old timey thing that doesn't make sense. I mean, at one point they were golfing in vests and almost like three-piece suits. It's like why you know what it's changed. Why not change?
Speaker 2:What I've never understood about the nice dressing. Even today, if nice dressing, Even today, if you go rent a tux or you buy a tux, I don't own a full suit or anything I have to go rent one if I have one.
Speaker 1:I don't go anywhere, that I need a suit Agreed.
Speaker 2:What was up with the dress socks the thinnest socks you could find and they were real tall, I know the idea was you had dress shoes and your ankle would be seen. Why did they have to be that thin and everything? I never understood that.
Speaker 1:Typically, though, it's because those shoes are more form fitting.
Speaker 2:So you need more room.
Speaker 1:You can't have a thick sock because it's it's going to basically mess up the form of the shoe. That's just weird. Or just be uncomfortable in a shoe, Like if you, if you have a tight shoe on and you've got a thick sock, that's not a comfortable thing.
Speaker 2:I think at one point and women are still this way to an extent, but it was look good over comfort, Like you had to look a certain way. That's what fashion is Agreed.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't think that's women. I think in all of fashion it's all about how you look. It's not about is it? But I think it's turning for men a lot, like I said, with the sweatpants and the pullovers and the hoodies because we're lazy.
Speaker 2:No, but it's kind of becoming a thing used to you never seeing people out in sweatpants like that, like that was working out or at home to the south.
Speaker 1:Go to walmart, you'll see pajamas. Oh for sure, I'm not pajama paint like not even that. Go to the local schools. The amount of just pajamas these kids wear blow my mind.
Speaker 2:Well, sweatpants is another one. It's huge, blow my mind Well, so for boys, it's sweatpants and girls.
Speaker 1:It's sweatpants too, but for girls it's the tights Like leggings, type Leggings, yeah, yeah. They're wearing that with everything like year round, and I can remember, like even back when I was in school, like that's you try to dress nice, like you're trying to impress people, or what you know, whatever it may be, but but now that is a very different.
Speaker 2:That is very different. I'm okay with it.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't call that dressing nice. I just don't think that's a focal point. The same way like it's popular but it's not necessarily dressing nice.
Speaker 2:I don don't know, I'm good, I've thrown my sweatpants. I mean, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1:You're not the person I'm calling for fashion advice. Why not Listen? You're not the person I'm calling for fashion advice.
Speaker 2:Shorts or sweatpants with a nice under armor pullover. That's where it's at.
Speaker 1:But that wouldn't be like dressing nice. If you need to go somewhere and dress nice, that's not. Not what I would call that that's dressing nice.
Speaker 2:Okay, fine, I'll break out the, the polo I mean.
Speaker 1:I mean, if you have to legitimately dress nice, I think you can do that with a quality pair of shorts, but if you're going to nice, at that point, yeah, it almost feels like some type of collar is what they could deem as nice anymore.
Speaker 2:I feel like the like going out to dinner, date night, whatever it is for men, is put on your golf outfit. Yeah, but that's what you were pretty much every like.
Speaker 1:So many of that age have gotten into golf I know, that's what I mean I mean the the golf industry surprised me, but on our golf shoes when we loaded during the pandemic, so all these people that got into it never really got out, and that's what they're buying is?
Speaker 2:it is the golf attire.
Speaker 1:You see that everywhere yeah, it's all the time I'll go somewhere and I'm like there's golf polos everywhere. That doesn't fit the quarter zips.
Speaker 2:If it's a little, I'm all.
Speaker 1:I'm all on board with the quarter zips.
Speaker 2:I am too I love a quarter zip.
Speaker 1:I'm good with that.
Speaker 2:I wear one almost every day.
Speaker 1:That to me is a little bit different. But even then a quarter zip kind of has that collar to it, so it does look a little bit nicer.
Speaker 2:So that one, I can definitely see what's nice about a quarter zip, especially if it's chilly out and you're not gonna take it off. You can put any shirt you want under it, because nobody's ever gonna see it. It doesn't matter. As long as the top part is a little nice, you're good so all the stains are just? Yeah, just wear an old old t-shirt with holes in it. Everything else as long as the top's good you're good, nobody's gonna see it, maybe.
Speaker 1:So what you're saying is you wear crop tops under your yeah, quarter steps. Yeah, please don't take those off. I definitely don't want to see that.
Speaker 2:I wear crop tops all the time. What are you talking about? I was laying around with those. You'll see me jogging down the street tomorrow morning. First of all, you know I ain't jogging nowhere.
Speaker 1:We ain't going to see you jogging anywhere, I don't know where.
Speaker 2:That was a definite random comment. Well, I'm getting shots like crazy. Pay me back for last week.
Speaker 1:Listen there. Just don't make it so easy.
Speaker 2:You could tell everybody I'm this finely tuned athlete that's going to live to be 100. Instead, you go the opposite way.
Speaker 1:So what you're saying is I should lie to the listeners, maybe.
Speaker 2:I do not condone lying.
Speaker 1:I'm not in the business of lying to our listeners.
Speaker 2:I'm going to look at the TV here. New York is up 3-0 on the 12th hole.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they ended up losing it. There's three holes left it had to have been some type of monumental crash. Here we go, there goes a hammer.
Speaker 2:There's a hammer throw. Had to be something right here that the hammer got them.
Speaker 1:I really hope they make some changes in the offseason and we just see some cleaner production, just everything about it just be a little bit more on par with other sports. I think they will, because that's one thing like professional football, professional basketball, college of both production-wise they do a fantastic job.
Speaker 2:But they've been doing it for a long time. Let's don't get PGA involved in the production. Oh, they gave the whole up.
Speaker 1:That's how they got one thing pga has gotten better, though, like the production wise they've gotten better because which really pga didn't really produce anything. It's 40 million networks that they part.
Speaker 2:I don't but how hard could it be? You're just, there's a hundred and some golfers out there just have a camera on them and you're good well, I mean pga anymore, like you're seeing a shot every like 20 seconds you are. That's what I mean. They're just flipping from golfer to golfer, to golfer to golfer you know that's not a sport that's easy though because it's.
Speaker 1:It's across how who knows how many acres, depending on the property size, I mean. So it's not like most sports. Four to eight cameras, depending on where they're at. You can get every angle, that's true, like golf. You're talking one, it's 18 holes, then you're talking tee boxes and greens, then you're talking if it's a par four or par five, you've got all that laying in the middle. So I mean cameras alone, you're into 50, 60.
Speaker 2:There's got to be a lot out there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean most of them, especially the guys that are on TV. There's a camera group following them. There's set up on the tee box. There's usually set up on the greens. There's got to be.
Speaker 2:You know I've never been to a live golf event. I'd like to go to one, especially one that's televised on ESPN or something big and let's see.
Speaker 1:Because you're right, there's got to be cameras everywhere. We can go to Quail Hollow. They come there every year.
Speaker 2:Let's go. It's just Charlotte.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's an easy trip. They're having a big tournament there this year, if I'm not mistaken, because a couple years ago they didn't host it. It might be hard to get to the big tournaments, the bigger one's a little bit harder, but when they hold the Wells Fargo that feels like Rory wins every year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I forget that's there.
Speaker 1:He's the king of.
Speaker 2:Quail Hollow. I haven't watched most golf yet this year TGL.
Speaker 1:I've been watching some of that. I watched Victor Hovland pick up a win this past weekend.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know he won.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm surprised you didn't, because he beat Justin Thomas. Yep didn't know, beat him by a stroke.
Speaker 2:Now I mean to be fair. I spent several hours again on ball fields, and all that every weekend.
Speaker 1:I'm not watching a ton of stuff at the moment because it's just college basketball.
Speaker 2:The tournament takes up so much, especially over the weekend, because you had Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 1:For four straight days you just had first two rounds, especially it starts to slow down as we start to get into Sweet 16 and beyond, but the first two rounds you just have games nonstop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my TV was on basketball From noon until after midnight.
Speaker 1:I mean really.
Speaker 2:Well, even I remember Sunday started like right at noon and went till after midnight. Now they didn't have so many games on at the exact same time. They were spread out a little bit more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean after the first round. It does slow down a little bit, but not nearly the same. Like this week, will feel much slower.
Speaker 2:You're saying sweet 16. There's only eight games. I haven't even got to finish yet, but I had to. Sunday night I had to go watch my nascar race. I always record those, so I was doing that, getting back in. That's what you know I said I wasn't. Uh, they raced can you tell you that I mean pretty much every sunday, you know right.
Speaker 1:But well, yeah, we did look. There's a lot of a lot of races.
Speaker 2:I'm getting a little more drawn back in as I watch a little bit and a little bit and a little bit um, yeah, I don't think you have to worry about that for me. I need to take you to a race in person. I think you'd enjoy that a little bit more. I don't still don't know if you'd love it, because you don't love that.
Speaker 1:They're not like basically real cars I would say I don't think I would I like events I think I would enjoy the event. Well, just loud, fast cars but kind of you know, but it's just at the same time something like that. It's not cars to me, Like it's just because you have an engine doesn't make you a car, loud, fast, anything, whatever it is, you know, it's just it's just a little bit different. I don't. I don't think I would enjoy it.
Speaker 2:I got to take you to a road course.
Speaker 1:Is. Is that what you'd rather watch? No, no, I mean really like motorsports, is not. I'm not just don't have a huge, huge desire for that. I get it. That's just not something I've ever really which, again, some people are just not fun people, the family I grew up in, we didn't watch any of that kind of stuff like that. We were always basketball, football, baseball we've talked about that.
Speaker 2:That kind of stuff seems to be one that comes from generation to generation.
Speaker 1:Oh, I mean, look, at the fan base they've done better.
Speaker 2:It just goes, drops down the line I think they've done better the past few years, bringing in some new audience, um, but they've also lost an old audience who says it ain't what it used to be.
Speaker 1:So they kind of had to say there's a lot of that crowd just I mean some of my older family members that I know that kind of did not my immediate family, but cousins stuff that did watch it. They've been at it for years, cause it's like it's, it's just not. You don't have the names that you had, you don't have the the following that some of that used to have.
Speaker 2:So but that's what every sport, you know, every sport, the older, but they'll go through spurts.
Speaker 1:I mean literally every sport. I mean look at the NFL. All viewerships down in the NFL, what four years ago? And now it's as much as it's ever been, if not more. So I mean which again, the more you grow some of the fan bases in college not always they start following. Well, my quarterback went here so I'm going to start watching that team. That helps for sure To an extent, because some people just don't like college football. Some people don't like college sports in general.
Speaker 2:That blows my mind.
Speaker 1:They prefer pro and to each their own. They're wrong, but to each their own. Yeah, I'm exact opposite. I do think NFL this year could get me into watching a little bit more. I think it was a good season this year. I think you had some controversy there the right amount. You had some really good teams, some teams that we thought were going to do better than they did that didn't. And I think there's some teams that are. And you look at somebody like Houston. Nobody expected CJ Stroud to go to Houston and be back-to-back playoff team. They've done it two straight years and been solid. And now we're seeing somebody like Buffalo getting some defensive stuff. I mean, we're seeing some growth. You're seeing a lot of movement. So I think NFL, I could definitely see myself coming back to.
Speaker 2:I would like to watch it.
Speaker 1:I really would NBA. It's going to be a while.
Speaker 2:What do you think about this other football league that's just starting? They did it last year, but what is it? Usfl or AFL, or I don't know what they even call it.
Speaker 1:They combined a couple together. It's just another minor league-based thing. The problem with football it's hard to do some type of minor because if you weren't good enough out of college this is where you're going you're probably not going to now excel to the next level. Very, very, very few of those guys have ever even been signed to practice squads. It's just, I don't know, it's hard to watch.
Speaker 2:There's no fans. College is probably better than that. Oh, to me, I think, college is a better watch Because college has better players than they have there. Like you said, said, if you were a great college player, you went on to win the nfl. Yeah, if you didn't, you went here and not even all of them and you've probably been, you know not playing for a few years and then went to here.
Speaker 1:Well, that kind of that statement made me just think of. I watched a, a reel the other day and I was going to ask you about this and I was waiting for the podcast. In your mind, just kind of throw this out there, that's dangerous. The question was, if you took one guy from the NBA like how many of these guys are out there that you could just take him, put him on one of the worst teams in college basketball and they could go win it all.
Speaker 2:One guy from the NBA, one guy See, I don't watch a lot of the NBA.
Speaker 1:But you're talking like a lebron, a harden a to put him on any team.
Speaker 2:Here's the thing.
Speaker 1:A guy like that will destroy any of these best of the best.
Speaker 2:So those are different level. What team are we putting them on? What do you mean? Any on any college team like a bad team for the.
Speaker 1:For the sake of it, we'll say, saint francis, they got beaten the first four. Well, for the sake of it, you put a guy like a james harden or a any of the top guys. How many of them do you think there are? They could go and help them? Well, how many?
Speaker 2:guys are in the league that could do that again. I don't watch nba, um, I still know of some players and know who's sure who's pretty good superstars.
Speaker 1:You kind of know whether you're really watching or not, because you see it on ESPN, you see it on whatever.
Speaker 2:See, I'm even thinking of somebody like SGA. I don't think he could, and he's good, 100% good.
Speaker 1:You think? He could 1 million percent good.
Speaker 2:SGA is one of the best players in the league currently, but I don't look at him that way.
Speaker 1:You can't guard him. He leads the league in free throw shooting. You can't guard him. He can score. He can score 50 a night in the NBA. What's he going to do in college If you give him the skill right now that he has? There's no way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I get what you're saying. I think about Giannis. Oh, Giannis is 100%. I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1:I think about Giannis. Oh, giannis is 100%. Jokic is another one. Jokic, yeah, there's no shot. There's no shot Some of the Put Wimby in college. He's destroying all of them.
Speaker 2:I'm sure everybody wants to say the guys have been around, like LeBron and those guys, and I'm sure LeBron would probably do it too, lebron, right now would still average 80, but a lot of those guys are kind of getting older and not quite what they used to be.
Speaker 1:So so some of those guys, some of the guys on the the reel, were saying seven, eight, ten. Well, they had a couple of not so past nba players on there and they were like no, it's like 30 or 40.
Speaker 2:They're like you guys are forgetting how good some of these guys are but you're saying put it on that team and go beat duke with cooper flag and oh yeah, 100.
Speaker 1:You put sga on saint francis.
Speaker 2:Not a single person on duke is going to stop him from scoring 50 now I do agree with that, because nba well, nba players don't play a lot of defense, but nba players can't stop him from scoring 50 but, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:These guys are such prolific scorers, there is no shot.
Speaker 2:Okay, so obviously the stars can do it. Where's the bottom line so?
Speaker 1:all your superstars.
Speaker 2:Yes, because that's a whole other level. I even think the stars. Not even just the superstars.
Speaker 1:Can Devin Booker go do it? Good chance, I mean the man scored what 80 in the NBA. I know he can score, but the thing about it is, regardless, that they don't play much defense. The talent there is next level and nobody wants to be the guy saying, hey, he scored 80 on me. Nobody wants to be that. Eventually he's going to start playing some defense.
Speaker 2:I actually heard this story again recently. It came back up um the year the nba had the lockout. What was that? 2012, I guess it was yep.
Speaker 2:So cal being at kentucky. Nba guys were coming in there all the time practicing everything because they had the lockout. One of the nba teams came, didn't have every NBA player, but had LeBron was there, durant was part of it and that 2012 Kentucky team beat them in a scrimmage. I'm not saying they could do it every time Now that was a good 2012 team, but the college players beat the dream team.
Speaker 1:They did, but the thing about that is who cares. They're not in there trying their hardest.
Speaker 2:I assume that also.
Speaker 1:Because when you go watch these guys play in the summer, they're not trying their hardest. They're out there getting reps and doing stuff, but they're not. You put that team and they're like all right, you're going to give me a million for winning this game. That team don't stand a chance.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't think so either but I kind of think we're cutting short some of the college players, not all of them. I think there's some college. I mean, look at the guys who skipped college and went straight to NBA, like LeBron.
Speaker 1:But the true success stories that those guys turned into superstars few and far between.
Speaker 2:Well, Like it's easy to remember the ones that did like Kobe's, lebron's, garnett's, but the true superstars that skipped college few and far between. I do agree that a lot of these who we consider great college players, came out of college not really as superstars and became superstars once they got to the NBA.
Speaker 1:Yes, but also think about how many guys in college that you're like these guys are unbelievable and never make it anywhere in the NBA. It's weird. It is such a even from big D one to NBA. It is such a huge leap and I think that for all pro sports, not just basketball, from top of the top sec or, you know, ohio state to then the NFL, it's a big jump. It's much more physical, much more fast. It is. Everybody is now that speed, everybody's that athletic. You can't be like. Well, who are we going to pick on? Where's the matchup? Why do you?
Speaker 2:think we have, and maybe it's style of play. I don't know. But why do you think we have players in college basketball, especially that we go, man, they're not going to do very well in the NBA. Is it just the style?
Speaker 1:So you've got to look at the NBA picks, the cream of the crop. If you are a 5'10 point guard, you're not going to make it in the NBA. You don't have the height, you don't have the reach.
Speaker 2:You don't have a lot of that stuff, so it doesn't matter what you did in college. You could have been the best college player ever you could be great in college.
Speaker 1:You could do a lot of cool things in college. You have a great college career, score a lot of points. But the college game is also much more team-based, team-oriented. It's played very different than the NBA. The NBA is much more ISO, fast-paced up and down. Score the ball first, that's all we care about. So that's me.
Speaker 2:It's a very different game I got. I already know atlanta wins this. I got excited with that putt they just made. They threw the hammer and uh went up four to three right there so it's two hammer.
Speaker 1:That's the final that they got. Four three is the final score. So you, you just got to see the the winning. That was good winning putt.
Speaker 2:I don't have the remote close to me. I I had to rewind it. Oh, here we've got a replay. Right now they're actually showing a replay. Look at this beautiful putt to win it.
Speaker 1:Oh, I saw this already.
Speaker 2:I saw the clip earlier and that's what's exciting right there. There he goes off riding his club almost like a horse and throwing his hat, and that's why I love that team right there.
Speaker 1:Not Well, but to me that's why I think TGL has a place, because we're seeing a crowd engagement. We're seeing a different type of excitement, like you're excited for somebody else to make a putt PGA Tour, you don't want somebody to make a putt, you don't care, not that you're wishing their downfall, but at the same time you're like if they are playing this great, that means I have to play that much better.
Speaker 2:That's Billy Horschel, so he's going to put on a show anyways.
Speaker 1:But just for the fans.
Speaker 2:He does. But you're right, when I'm watching golf, there's so many golfers out there, there's a few, I don't mind who win. So I'm not just like this guy. Right here, I'm for him, I right here, I'm for him, I want him to win. I'm right, I'm living and dying with him. If he doesn't win, I can go no big deal, but here like that's my team.
Speaker 1:If they don't win, I'm upset team. It's wins and losses for an individual. Yeah, he had another top 10.
Speaker 2:Like you, celebrate you celebrate it very different I mean same way, nascar?
Speaker 1:you're right it does. Oh man, he finished top five. He had a great race.
Speaker 2:I there's a couple drivers.
Speaker 1:I love nascar, but at the end of the season, man, he finished top five. He had a great race. There's a couple drivers I love in NASCAR, but at the end of the season if your team finishes top five, dang we finish fifth. It doesn't feel like you actually did good.
Speaker 2:It's not the same.
Speaker 1:It's not the same at all.
Speaker 2:No, the excitement I got when he made that putt to win that is not the excitement I get if he made that putt to win the tournament on his own.
Speaker 1:It's just not the same. It's just not the same at all. I don't know why. But you're right, it's that way with NASCAR a little bit too. Team oriented is very different. When you get behind a team, you've got these multiple people all coming together for it. You just feel different about it.
Speaker 2:Well, this putting it indoors in an arena is way different too, because fans can sit in the stands and just watch, and you can see all of it.
Speaker 1:You're not walking, you're not following. You're seeing everything happen right in front of you, but I do think TGL should be moved, charlotte.
Speaker 2:Atlanta.
Speaker 1:Winter.
Speaker 2:Let's go to Atlanta. I think we should do it in the winter. Oh, you mean move the time. I thought you meant move the location.
Speaker 1:No, I think we should do fall the winter. Oh, you may move the time. I thought you meant move the location. No, I think. No, I think we should do fall late, fall into winter.
Speaker 2:I think that's like the perfect time I don't want to mess with college football, but you have less games?
Speaker 1:you do, but you have way less because they're playing it on a monday and a tuesday. That's not the middle summer, but monday and tuesday you've got. You're not competing with football. Nfl has Monday night games. Play it on Tuesday.
Speaker 2:What Tuesday is there? Play it on Tuesday. Sorry, I kicked the table over there. It probably would help because the fall most places. The temperature is cooler, You're not out as much. It gets dark earlier. You're at home earlier.
Speaker 1:I think it could keep people into golf longer, potentially.
Speaker 2:It could.
Speaker 1:Because you've got to think.
Speaker 2:So you're saying home earlier. I think it could keep people into golf longer.
Speaker 1:Potentially it could, because you gotta think so. You're saying, do it right after their championship ends, in a way. Yeah, well, then too, I feel like you have more guys that might be interested in being involved, because your main season's over the big names they're not competing in pga fall, so they're, they're just kind of off doing who knows what. Some of them play some dp world tour. Some of them are still doing some of the small stuff. Some of them are kind of just taking time off. So for me it's like, hey, this is a perfect time to throw them into a team event where you're playing golf, but it's so much more relaxed, like this is not the same thing, but I think then that gives the potential to. If you move it to, then it also gives potential to you move it to the end. It also gives potential to you can have home matches. You could put a stadium in each of these cities and actually play in that city. So I think that's what I'm thinking as a team like you need a home venue.
Speaker 2:How do we do TGL style at 4U Golf? That's what I want to do.
Speaker 1:Oh man 15 holes.
Speaker 2:you know we can figure it out. That would be fun.
Speaker 1:We can make that happen.
Speaker 2:And literally you know we'd figure it out, that'd be fun, and literally that happened team on team matchup, weekly or something.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, that's the thing. I think it'd be really easy to do because we have the setup. Yeah, the only thing that would be different would be the, the putting portion. You wouldn't actually.
Speaker 2:You just do like you do on the top tracer yeah, that'd be fun like three on three and so and again, like it's just like they do, like alternate shot for the first, what 10 holes? Nine holes, whatever nine holes, and then you have one-on-ones to fit in. That let's do it for the last. We can even have the hammers, I don't care, let's do it all.
Speaker 1:Get us about six teams, eight teams I mean realistically, the first time you try, you could do it four yeah, I'll play on the team the more you have. Let's go. Are you going to be a team captain?
Speaker 2:yeah, I'll be a team captain ATL who?
Speaker 1:are you stacking your team with ATL?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm calling up whoever's good, calling up Dell and Connor getting on my team. Hey guys, I'm going to need you for a few weeks nope, they're disqualified.
Speaker 2:No, I think you have to have amateur status.
Speaker 1:I think we could have fun with it, but I would want to do it like don't copy these teams.
Speaker 2:Got to come up with a team name, I agree. Got to come up like, make it like, have some fun with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean like something silly, like have some fun with it, Like if you want to, you know, because that is one of those type leagues that you could easily make it where that works.
Speaker 2:Only two teams play every week. Be fun.
Speaker 1:It would just be getting people involvement. If you can get enough people, that's all of it, because obviously you've got three on a team. It would you know?
Speaker 2:yeah, there's some brainstorming that could happen with that. If you're listening and you want to come play, let us know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, reach out Listen. I understand the podcast is not amused. I am not having an emu as my mascot.
Speaker 2:That's the rule. If you play in it, you have to be the emu.
Speaker 1:Are we kind of like Tiger and Rory at this point, then, without the skill?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're creating stuff, Running it creating it.
Speaker 1:We're not really creating stuff.
Speaker 2:Running it, creating it type deal. I mean, we're kind of competing, we're not really creating it. We're going to try to innovate, we're more like.
Speaker 1:Apple we're going to innovate not invent.
Speaker 2:We're going to show you guys what you did wrong. Sorry, I was shot at Apple too.
Speaker 1:That's just kind of out of left field. Yeah, I mean, I think that would be fun.
Speaker 2:I'm an Apple fan.
Speaker 1:Don't be talking about Apple Apple over Android any day of the week.
Speaker 2:Nothing messes up a group text like somebody's got an Android.
Speaker 1:The green text messages.
Speaker 2:I know iMessage is just, and, again, it's something that we're basically just brainwashed for at this point. But it's just easy, do you?
Speaker 1:have a group text for your team. Yeah, it is not blue. Mine is not blue. Mine is not it's not.
Speaker 2:I've got like two or three for different teams and they're none.
Speaker 1:Listen, I've probably got 20 different group texts in here for different things at different times. None of them are blue.
Speaker 2:Who's this one person?
Speaker 1:Is it the one person?
Speaker 2:It's never one, it's always multiple, but I never see one of these androids out in the wild. I don't get it.
Speaker 1:My dad's an old man. He's got one. He has an Android. He's got a flip phone. It's one of the newer flip phones, but it's a flip phone.
Speaker 2:I think he's got that newer Razr that flips open. Oh, we talked about that.
Speaker 1:Not a fan of that either. He acts like it doesn't bother him. But I saw his phone the other day. That type of screen there's going to be a crease type thing form. It's got a crease in the middle and I'm like that. It messes up the whole view.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's me. I don't, I don't like it. We go through this of little phone, little phone. See how small we can get it. Okay, now it's getting bigger again.
Speaker 1:Now let's go get. I don't know what makes the difference. No, I don't want a phone the size of an iPad. That's too much. But I do like a bigger phone. Yeah. I always have the plus version. But I like watching videos on it.
Speaker 2:I look up stuff all the time yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm checking emails, emails, and parts of things I've had to purchase or find or replace or whatever. It's just all the time. So yeah, I like the bigger screen without having to carry something else around.
Speaker 2:So we've had this conversation before. How many unread emails do you have? Zero.
Speaker 1:Really, you still have zero. I always have zero. How?
Speaker 2:I check them, I erase them. I cannot keep up with mine. I have to move them.
Speaker 1:I do it a few times a day.
Speaker 2:Do you want take a guess? I mean now. Now here's to be fair. Every so often I'm like I can't handle it, no more and I start going through and I just started deleting and it takes some time, and so I've done this a couple months ago probably, maybe a little longer, and I got about halfway down and they're coming right back. I don't know, and I even unsubscribe from these crazy. So here's the thing we have we obviously have the business email.
Speaker 1:I can't have that on my first page because you won't let it be zero, because I will make it zero. Go make it zero, I will 100. But I don't know if there's something you need.
Speaker 2:Well, so I do that with my work emails and stuff like that. If it is unread, I need to do something with it. Typically, so I will read an email Okay, I need to do something. I so I will read an email, okay, I need to do something.
Speaker 1:I'll mark it back on Reddit. If I've got one I need to get done, I do it within the first two days so I can get rid of it. I can't stand not having it.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I'm busy, I know.
Speaker 1:I can't stand Like if I have an app that too often pops up something, I get rid of the app. Like there's no sense that has that many notifications, so I have four emails on my phone.
Speaker 2:Okay, my day job is 46 unread right now. That's not bad for you, I for you. Golf has 32 the old wait, we have 32 unread.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I only see 11. Mine says 32. Oh gosh, that would drive me nuts.
Speaker 2:I can't probably say where it's only showing you so many days ago, or something like that. I, I guarantee yeah.
Speaker 1:I can't stand that. That's too much.
Speaker 2:Our old Gmail account has three Now knowing those, so that's a little less than 100. But I have one more. That's my Yahoo personal. I've had for years.
Speaker 1:I'm going to guess though I do nothing with them Like 3,500. Total yeah, so my initial guess was going to be over five, but then those were lower than I thought. You're still low. 75? You're still low. Is it over 10? Not quite. That gives me anxiety just thinking about.
Speaker 2:I have 9,831 unread emails on my phone. Oh, you are a psychopath.
Speaker 1:What is wrong with you?
Speaker 2:I can't stand that I don't have time. I used to not be able to. I used to have to go through it.
Speaker 1:Listen, I'm going to tell you this right now I don't care anymore. I would get rid of that email, Like I would delete that from my phone, Like it's obviously not important, I would just get rid of it.
Speaker 2:Occasionally, I get a few things in there that I need and I would make a new one and attach. If I am getting an email I need. It gets lost in all the other junk and I can't stop the junk. I keep trying.
Speaker 1:So the personal email that I have I have so few things that actually go there that I'm like I keep it up that there is zero, but it's just such a waste. There's so few things I actually get in my personal email, because all the important stuff I either have coming through, uh, through the, the golf one or or through you know the two main ones we have there, but that's about it.
Speaker 2:Everything else is like very, very few things I don't know if anybody knows how to stop this. I would be like some of your bills that used to like only be email.
Speaker 1:Now they text you. Now they're, they send you those.
Speaker 2:I'm like I don't even need the email message that's why you set up, and I don't even care if they email it or not, as long as it's correct.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean, I agree with that.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I need somebody to help me figure out how to stop all these, because I really don't want to start a new email and have to redo all my email stuff. But it's getting ridiculous.
Speaker 1:Email is one of those things that I feel like was phasing its way out and then came back hard Like it was just like everything switched.
Speaker 2:Why do you think it did that? I don't know.
Speaker 1:I really don't know, cause you're right, a lot of has changed the texting. Like I get a lot of so many things. Well, so all the websites are like hey, here's a 10% off coupon. It used to always be give us your email. Now they ask for email and then there's a secondary pop-up If you want to actually get the 10% you got to give me your phone number. And I'm like now I'm getting basically what would be junk mail emails in text and I'm like that's annoying, that drives me nuts.
Speaker 2:So now I have so many texts that I can't get rid of oh, no, you won't see me with unread texts. Well, no, I can't have them unread. They're red, but they're still all there and they take up so much space on my phone.
Speaker 1:I used to be really good about clearing them out, but then at some point so many came in so fast, it was just kind of like now bind yeah, I'm just to be, I just read it and move on and I ain't got time to delete it.
Speaker 2:When my phone says you have no more space, then I'm like crap, I've got to get rid of some pictures and texts. It's a lot of work, though, to go through.
Speaker 1:Because it's not a quick process Like the emails. It's not a quick process to get rid of all those Not from your phone On a computer click all. You can just click the unreads. You can just click the unreads Like you can do all the different categories.
Speaker 2:That's what I do Just go there.
Speaker 1:But doing it on the phone? No, it's not nearly the same.
Speaker 2:Usually I find myself in a doctor's office or somewhere I'm stuck or in line to get my daughter from school.
Speaker 1:So bored you have nothing else to do. That's where you go.
Speaker 2:Sometimes, if I don't have, especially if I'm in a spot I don't have service, so I can't really. Let's just start, because you can actually kind of swipe your finger down your phone and it'll highlight everything you can see. I did that.
Speaker 1:But you're getting like eight at a time. I did that by accident one day and I was like I never knew that was there, yeah, and then now I couldn't get to do it again the other day.
Speaker 2:A few months ago I got down to like 4,000-something.
Speaker 1:And you're in a few months you're back over 9,000 ridiculous. Are you like subscribing to literally everything you see?
Speaker 2:No, I don't even know what half this stuff is and I always unsubscribe from stuff. Let's see what I got. Something my financial weekly. Uh, I got two of those right there. Longhorn steakhouse.
Speaker 1:Why is Longhorn steakhouse Hang on? Is it a coupon?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I mean I didn't open it. You think I opened it. It's unread.
Speaker 1:What do you mean it's food? Of course, I figured you opened it.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know it was there.
Speaker 1:Let's see If Longhorn's going to send us a coupon. I'll 100%.
Speaker 2:No, it's just giving me we need to have a business meeting. It's just giving me pictures of food. I want that. I can fast pitch. Community, your pet insurance? You have insurance? No, I didn't think so. I don't know. My pillow what is my pillow? That's a brand, okay. Why are they emailing me? Maybe they think you need a new pillow. Well, I do need a new pillow actually, but there you go maybe they've my phone's heard me complain about it, so they send me emails.
Speaker 1:That's all the time they. I listen anybody that has talked about anything for so long. People like, oh, it's just coincidence, that's not coincidence no, it is listening like there's no doubt about it. The phone, the phones, the computers, whatever they're listening, because you can talk about one thing one time and the next time you go scroll facebook or you're on whatever social media, that stuff comes up all the time it does.
Speaker 2:You know, I went to the one Kentucky game at Clemson. I bought tickets through Ticketmaster but it was like sent from Clemson Athletics. And you probably get Clemson stuff all the time now I get Clemson stuff all the time. Now I mean maybe I want to see it, maybe I don't, probably not, I can't see you becoming a Clemson fan, especially not as bad as they played. No, I mean, I'm not going to be a fan. I might go watch a game down there occasionally.
Speaker 1:I could see you going to some football games down there oh that would be fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love college football.
Speaker 1:I could definitely see you trying to do that.
Speaker 2:Moe's Southwest Grill. That's good. What's this? Let's see.
Speaker 1:That's good. What's this? Let's see. Every podcast somehow comes back to food one way or another.
Speaker 2:Because I'm fat, says the man that's going to live to 100. Listen, every time I scroll there is some other restaurant, of course there is. I got Papa John's. Anyway, there's just too many, I can't handle it. I'm just like it's one of those I just put to the side and say yeah, whatever.
Speaker 1:Well, to the side and say, yeah, whatever, okay, well, speaking of restaurants, what's what's the go-to like? If you're like, all right, I can have anything I want, and I'm just thinking we are going to go here like what's this the?
Speaker 2:specific restaurant or a type of food. No, no restaurant itself. It's got to be in our area, or like what do we?
Speaker 1:well, I mean, like if you within an hour, like of here, because that that does limit it way down, obviously, but if you within an hour, like of here, because that that does limit it way down, obviously, but if you're just thinking like we're going to go over here and this is where we're going to eat.
Speaker 2:In a weird way, I'm a I'm a chain restaurant person because, they all have the same type of food and I know what it is. When you go to these single restaurants, you never know what you're going to get.
Speaker 1:I'm a chain until probably vacation I agree, probably vacation.
Speaker 2:I agree, that's when I think I switch. I want to try different stuff, vacation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so what's the go-to? Mine's easy. If I'm picking just one thing, I'm going to go to mine's easy. Brad already knows the answer, because we're probably going to some type of wrestling show afterwards. Okay, red Lobster.
Speaker 2:I kind of thought you was going to say Red Lobster.
Speaker 1:I love some red lobster I'm not a big fan of red lobster the biscuits and what used to be called the seaside shrimp trio. That's all you need to know. That's all you need to know. So it's a trio. We got that part Of three different shrimp entrees. Yeah, I mean, it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say so. I've got two and it depends on what I'm feeling. One of them is going to be Olive Garden.
Speaker 1:Olive Garden, I knew that was going to be Olive Garden and Longhorn, so out of all the steakhouse you'd go Longhorn.
Speaker 2:I can't think of any others that I want better. I'd go to Texas Roadhouse. I don't really like Texas Roadhouse, it's okay's not my favorite at all. I'd go to Longhorn first. That's a weird.
Speaker 1:Now.
Speaker 2:We went to Outback not too long ago. That wasn't great.
Speaker 1:No, that was awful. That was the first and last time I've been to Outback in a long time. Sorry Outback, but the one near us was awful.
Speaker 2:We got a steak and it was okay.
Speaker 1:No, mine wasn't that good. The.
Speaker 2:I'm sticking with our local Longhorn. When I say local, it's not real, real close, yeah, but so far that's been our best one. That's the best place Because we did go to the other one in Tennessee on our way back from Nashville and it was awful.
Speaker 1:Now I will say probably both of our wives would kind of have this on the list. I know mine for sure. Cracker Barrel.
Speaker 2:So it depends. Like I'm a cracker barrel person too, but I gotta be craving that like home-cooked meal that day. I don't know what makes me crave that meal. I want to go there and get some meatloaf and some green beans and some mac and cheese.
Speaker 1:I don't think I can go and not get breakfast I don't like their breakfast that much.
Speaker 2:You are not american because I'm. I'm a waffle person, not a pancake person. When it comes to eating out, I'd rather go to Waffle House.
Speaker 1:There's no shot. I'm picking Waffle House over Cracker.
Speaker 2:Barrel, though, heck, yes.
Speaker 1:I like waffles better than pancakes. Personally.
Speaker 2:Waffle House is great.
Speaker 1:There's the trio Pancakes, waffles, french toast. Mine is waffles, pancakes, french toast. I put waffles first, I like them best, french toast Like I put waffles first I like them best, then I go waffles or pancakes.
Speaker 2:I only like French toast if it's like the French toast sticks, don't give me real French toast. I don't want that. You are a child. I don't Between you and Uncrustables. Every time I talk to you you're eating dino nuggies, okay you don't, I don't want to hear it. Listen, it's been months and months.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, my, my oldest would probably love if I bought him some. Well, he's a, I mean, he's much more on corn dogs than he is those, but corn dogs good.
Speaker 2:I've actually here lately I've been eating the. Uh, what? So? What do you call these? It's the corn dog shape, but it's the sausage in the middle with a pancake around it. What do you call those?
Speaker 1:I have no idea I don't either.
Speaker 2:They're really good.
Speaker 1:That's such a weird that's, you eat the weirdest things it's so like have you ever had one yeah, maybe that's really good, that's real, they're really good.
Speaker 2:That's so weird. Oh, especially for breakfast, they're really good. I'm telling you you're missing out. We are talking about food too much.
Speaker 1:All right, anyways yeah, it's too late and you're you're gonna leave here and be like I got the last podcast.
Speaker 2:I went to cookout, did you? I did. I got you. Don't even like cookout, I don't like. It's the only thing I opened that late, would that's true? So I got I. I ate a cheeseburger fries and cheese bites and drunk a sweet tea on my way home at like, and that was probably like 1 am 1 o'clock in the morning Jeez.
Speaker 1:I mean listen I was regretting it.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying that, oh, when you get home you're like that was terrible.
Speaker 1:But it's hard because the one thing that is great about Cookout not as much anymore because they did raise their prices, but it used to be. It was like $ bucks for the whole tray and a drink. So it's still way cheaper, don't worry. It's like 750, like it's not like they raised a ton. But I can remember like as a college kid cookout was I mean you could take two of you eat on like 12, 13 after tax.
Speaker 2:It's like it's fantastic well, you could do that a lot of places.
Speaker 1:That's the way taco bell used to be. I remember when I was in college playing basketball and it was like late night you go to Taco Bell, you can't now 15 bucks and you were eating like a king.
Speaker 2:I. We can just about go to our local Mexican restaurant for about the same price we spent at Taco Bell, and I would much rather have that food. Yes, it is crazy. I went through the other day. I got what did I get? Two combos, two just quesadillas, like cheese quesadillas. Those are like close to five bucks, those are outrageous. And I got one of those Crunchwrap Supremes, so only two of them was like meals. There's three single items. It was almost like 50 bucks or something like 40 some dollars.
Speaker 1:I think they robbed you.
Speaker 2:They did. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:The last time I went to Taco Bell I had like three or four single items. It was like 12 bucks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:No, no, but it was like burritos you think that's cheap.
Speaker 2:It was big stuff. I don't eat burritos or nothing like that.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry you uncrustables and you who.
Speaker 2:No, I get quesadillas or crunch wraps at Taco Bell. Thank you, that's so weird.
Speaker 1:We're learning some things.
Speaker 2:We're going to have to change our what do you call it? Category of our podcast like sports and food, because that's what it is anymore.
Speaker 1:We do talk about it a lot, but yeah, I don't really have a butt there.
Speaker 2:It's just, we talk about it a lot. I was kind of like where's the butt? Go. I was like where's the good one?
Speaker 1:There's nowhere else to go, because, yeah, it's discussed quite a bit, quite a bit, but I feel like that's part of just life, think about how much time you spend in a day figuring out where to eat, constantly, like with families and stuff like what you're eating, if you're eating where, if you're going to go out and eat where you're going because somebody doesn't like something.
Speaker 2:When I'm finishing up lunch, I'm thinking about what am I eating for dinner? Okay, that's maybe a bit excessive, but I mean, if no, uh, what? I think what drives that is how busy everybody is, because you're constantly going okay, what do you have this evening?
Speaker 2:what are we doing this evening? Okay, how are we fitting in dinner and where are we getting it? And are we cooking at home? You know we outside of being gone with sports and stuff, we actually eat at home. You know we, outside of being gone with sports and stuff, we actually eat at home quite a bit, and really way more than you would think. We sit down at the table as a family and eat dinner. Now, it may only be that 15 minutes or whatever while we're eating dinner, but we do a pretty good job of getting that. Fairly often it's tough.
Speaker 1:We don't have time between when, when amanda gets home and then me doing all this stuff out here like there's just, there's no time to get home cooking meals, like yeah, it's already bedtime, but that's, that's what.
Speaker 2:Everybody has no way and that's why I say we're that way a lot. But uh, when sports are going it's harder to do, but in the winter we was able to do it a little bit more. But um, yeah, I mean even even just with. Did you do that growing up?
Speaker 1:because I did, like almost every meal was mom cooked it the vast majority was at home, but I mean I can also remember mom would do crock pot stuff yeah, that's good because I mean both, both my parents worked for as long as I can remember.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it was all like really, I won't say simple stuff because we I mean we ate well, it was just usually some crockpot based thing or casseroles or the stuff that was much easier to to do, even when it's busy yeah, but I remember that much more when I was like when I was very young, because as I, as I got older and everything gets busier, honestly there's plenty of times they're doing dinner without me, like whether I'm traveling from ball games or hanging out with friends or whatever.
Speaker 2:You know, you just yeah, I guess it's a little little different hey, right, there's a nice picture.
Speaker 1:2025 champions I think the trophy's a little lacking.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure what they were going for.
Speaker 1:I mean, you can't really say they're going for simplicity. So TGL just showed on TV here the trophy that they're giving out. It's a very, very simple trophy and I feel like you can't really go after simplicity, because nothing about this league is simple Like this is the craziest of technology that golf has done, yet it reminds me too much of the college football trophy, Just that slender skinny. To me it reminds me of, like a soccer trophy. I don't know what a soccer trophy is. They just do very simple, not much on the top.
Speaker 2:That's a sport. You are not going to find me talking about much.
Speaker 1:Have you ever watched much soccer? Like at all? A little bit, I mean. For me, the only time I'm really watching much is World Cup. I think World Cup's interesting.
Speaker 2:But it's your country.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like the Olympics. It's very representative of your country.
Speaker 2:That, and every time and again we go back to food. But every time I go to the Mexican restaurant it's always on.
Speaker 1:That is always on. Yes, that's very true actually.
Speaker 2:I really want to ask them if they could change it at some point, but I might get in trouble.
Speaker 1:I just feel like that's rude. Let them watch what they want to watch, but I'm the customer. You watch what you want to watch out here.
Speaker 2:What if a customer comes? Well, depends on what they ask for. No, you wouldn't.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. It's no different. That's a cake, and eat it too.
Speaker 2:Hey, you go to Applebee's or something like that, they'll change the channel for you. Okay, hang on.
Speaker 1:You can't really say Applebee's, because there's 40 million TVs in.
Speaker 2:Applebee's. Well then, the Mexican restaurant needs to get more TVs.
Speaker 1:That's what we did, while, no, it's good which they've changed very much, how they from what they used to be. There are so many tvs in one spot it is hard to figure out what you're watching. How do you watch though? It's just every angle. You look, there's a tv and I get why it's the whole sports bar feel, it's the whole. You know we're gonna have all the games, we're gonna show everything, but there's just so much to to look at and I haven't been in a while. I just know the last time I went it made me think of that how there's one wall. It had like 12 tvs on it and they're all on something different and I'm like it's it's so distracting on what you're actually trying to see.
Speaker 2:I've probably been to that in my entire life. I could probably count on my hand how many times I've been to one. It's just never been a place. I think we went on vacation once. Uh, been to one somewhat local, I think once. It's just not a place that I enjoy going it's not.
Speaker 1:It's not what it used to be. They. They have declined massively, in my opinion. We used to go I mean at one point it felt like once a week at you know college, just outside of college, and then kind of late high school, early college. I remember doing it because we'd go watch all the big games there. They had all the like if you're watching ufc, they had all the pay-per-views and it was one of those places that you could kind of go eat. You didn't have to just eat this big, massive meal, you could kind of like eat throughout the night while you're watching some big long game. It was just really simple, but to me the food then was way higher quality, was it? Yeah?
Speaker 2:and they still just did some things really, really well as far as how they set up everything. You know, I'm going gonna spend my money now, and I just never place.
Speaker 1:I thought let's go there, but you don't like chicken though more so now than a little better yeah, but then though, like you were not picking chicken, can I ask a question?
Speaker 2:how did we get back on food again? It just happens like I thought we literally moved away from food we was in something.
Speaker 1:Theoretically, everything come back to it apparently.
Speaker 2:But I think that's everybody's lives anymore. Like every meeting, you know it's a lunch thing, a dinner thing, everything with family. If you have any, get together your family. You got to have food. Everything revolves around food anymore, I feel like, and maybe it always did, but but it was talking about that like we.
Speaker 1:We used to do every christmas, every thanksgiving, every eas, like the entire family got together, like the whole big extended thing. We don't do that anymore. I don't know exactly when it stopped. Probably really it kind of started pandemic. A lot of people stopped doing that but I noticed it also slowed down after my grandma passed.
Speaker 2:Like that was, that was a big thing Like that brought it together.
Speaker 1:It was that with my grandma passed. That was a big thing that brought it together.
Speaker 2:It was that with my family too.
Speaker 1:I feel like we tried to keep it for a little bit and then it's just like people just kind of stopped trying to force it because it's just so busy, just so busy. So yeah, I mean that's a big part of it.
Speaker 2:Who takes that on once the grandparents pass away, because I feel like that's always that way, I think that's always that way. I think that's why it stops, because most people just don't, I don't think it's not that, not that way is it never coming back the way it used to be?
Speaker 1:I don't think we'll ever really see it like that. But, like you said, everybody's so much busier now, like the the world just moves at a different pace. It's hard to find now. There's still a lot of people that do. A lot of people still have the big family get together, still do the big meals. At some point it'll end for them too, it's just there's some somebody is keeping it together, so it's it's kind of just but it's even all the little get togethers.
Speaker 2:You know, if I'm, if anybody's going to my house, we're probably ordering food, ordering pizza, doing something on the grill. Like we're doing something, like you have to have food. It feels like if you're doing anything and I don't know when that became that way.
Speaker 1:Maybe that's why we're all overweight birthday because, if you notice, typically you schedule in between meals well, because you're gonna have cake and you try all the other stuff. You try to do it after lunch, before dinner. So it's I'm gonna save some money, because I'm already having to spend a fortune on this thing. I agree, we'll save some money and not have to do that.
Speaker 2:Kids' birthday parties are expensive, I don't know. As you can tell, we like sports, we like food. So if you like those two things, you're going to enjoy what we talk about.
Speaker 1:I am excited, though, sports-wise Opening day baseball's very, very soon. They Baseball is very, very soon. They're having a big game in Japan. Dodgers are playing over there. They're doing a whole big spectacle of it, so I'm excited to watch that, are they?
Speaker 2:going to pay the venue now or wait until later? I don't know. I figured they'd just push that off like they're doing all their players.
Speaker 1:I mean, they could yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, they paid the Japanese teams so that they can recruit more. Right now, is there early a favorite to win it? I mean way. I mean I think, yeah, the dodgers, I think, have to be the favorite one. At last year just added more. I mean it's not like they lost much, they just added more talent. So, yeah, why would they not be the favorite? Not that I necessarily like it. I mean to me it's hard to cheer for a team that's completely opposite into the country. Yeah, like it's just hard to have ties with somebody like that I'm I'm always going to be a braves fan.
Speaker 2:I think I don't ever see that changing, no matter what. But I also don't know when they're going to be good again I mean, they won a championship just a few years ago. I know, but, I think they've been so are we going to have that?
Speaker 1:span again. No, I think last year had a much better year, but they had so many injuries. I mean the rotation at one point was just destroyed from major injuries. I think you'll see another. I mean I think they're going to be a playoff team for the next foreseeable future. I just don't know getting over that hump. I'm not sure, but with what the Dodgers are doing right now, I think it's going to be hard to beat them. I think it's going to if they get some injuries. They get, you know, some of that. Yeah, but baseball is such a long season. I mean, there's so many things that can happen, yeah, so many things. We've talked about how long it is I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't like the length, but I I know you're really excited to watch certain stadiums. I know that excites you.
Speaker 2:Gosh, don't get me going, it's late.
Speaker 1:No, I was bringing it up. I was like where can I go with that? And I knew exactly where I was going the whole time and I just had to figure out how I wanted to say it. Okay, Because I know you have very strong feelings on this.
Speaker 2:It is the I'm not even going to say dumb, it is the I'm not even going to say dumb. It is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life that every stadium can have a different distance for home runs. Because it's like, if you hit it this distance, you get a run. Okay, go to the next team you're playing. Well, now, last game, if I hit this distance, no, no, no, this time you got to hit it 50 feet further, or 100 feet further. Or let's go to the Green Monster. Which stadium is that again? Red Sox, red Sox. Okay, on this stadium you don't have to hit too far, but you've got to make sure you keep it way up in the air, or it's. It is the dumbest thing. Or left field is closer than right field. I don't want to hear it. That is the dumbest thing in the world. Every other sport you have parameters of what gets you points, except baseball.
Speaker 1:When we talk home runs, so there are a little bit of rules on it, because we kind of talked about it earlier. They must be very vague. It doesn't control a ton. It just says the minimum distance between home plate and the nearest fence within play. So between foul poles it has to be at least a minimum 325 feet.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you've got to hit at least 325 to get home run If it was built after 1958.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, 1958, though. So that's why Fenway gets away with it, because it was built way, way before that.
Speaker 2:If Fenway, if you can go in Fenway. So what's the distance? Finway, do you know?
Speaker 2:I mean, I can find it real quick if you can go in finway and hit a home run at a shorter distance, then every other field should be the exact same thing. I don't know how hard. You know how many um, like youth fields and stuff, we have in this country, just ball fields and middle communities. They have figured out that the dimensions to put fields and to make the, the fence a radius, and it's the same on the right field, the left field, the center, such and such, come on. We can do this and I know talking with will baseball guys like it, like true baseball guys, like that. It's unique, that it's different. These stadiums are different. I hate it. How much different do you think that is?
Speaker 2:What'd you say? It had to be 325? Mm-hmm, it's probably a 50-feet difference or something. 15 feet Only 15? 310. Well, that's not bad, but still that just destroyed your whole argument no, no, it's not as bad as I expected, but still the same thing. If I show up somewhere and I hit it 310, I expect to get a run, because I can do it at this stadium.
Speaker 1:But only in one very tiny portion. If you hit it on that left field line, 310, yes, but as you move more into the field of play it starts going more.
Speaker 2:But you're making it even more silly that it can be different in different places. The middle should be further 100%, but it should be the same on left field as right field and it should. Every field should gradually come to the center at the same distances.
Speaker 1:To me that's like that's a cookie cutter, that just no stadium is the same, and that's kind of what makes it interesting, but at the same time, like then you start to throw in the other hiccup here. Should we make the stadium in colorado for the rockies? Should we make it way longer, because the ball carries farther?
Speaker 2:No, that's silly. But you could say that in football too Same argument there, but we go play NFL there and we don't make that statement.
Speaker 1:But the mechanics are very different. Different things are happening.
Speaker 2:The climates where you live. It's different, because it could be different if you go play in the south and in the north winter. Like. We can talk, let's just the stadium can be different all the way around it. It don't have to be cookie cutter, but the field should be cookie cutter, like you guys have a baseball field.
Speaker 1:But that's the thing. Like every sport has its something, there's something in every sport that is different or is not necessarily explainable. That, to me, is one of baseball's that it's like there's no sense in changing that. Like it. It makes it. It makes it give interest. Like it makes it makes the fields feel original. It makes them feel like special to the, to the people. Like the. A Yankees fan no Yankees fan likes the stadium now compared to what they used to have, the old Yankee stadium. That was something that they talked about. I don't think they ever will, but if Boston ever decided we're going to build a completely new stadium, it would ruin what makes that special about playing in Boston. Just fix the field.
Speaker 2:Make the field like all the fields, standard. You keep your same stadium, I don't care. Fix the fields. Make them up shorter if you want.
Speaker 1:Across everything, they don't care. Fix the fields, make them, make them up shorter if you want across everything like they. They don't really do that. I mean it's different in different cities. It's different, different whatever like whatever.
Speaker 2:Every league is different like but it's only that way in baseball rules. It's only that way in baseball.
Speaker 1:Every other sport again, that's what that's what makes it, makes it kind of fun, makes it dumb, dumb.
Speaker 2:I know Makes it dumb.
Speaker 1:It's okay. It's okay to not get it, it's okay.
Speaker 2:I just I feel like a run is a run. If there's a distance you hit the ball to get a run, it should be that way across the board. I'm curious because I don't know this answer. If there's ever been like looking back at the records, is there somebody in the records like home runs because their home field was at one of these shorter fields?
Speaker 1:You've got to think that you only play half of your games at that field 70-something games.
Speaker 2:I can hit a lot of home runs if I get that advantage.
Speaker 1:I bet you've got to think these guys don't hit. I mean, technically, barry Bonds holds the record for most in a season at 70-something, but he had over 300 at-bats, if not more. It's like you're not hitting. You're not even hitting one.
Speaker 2:He might have had more.
Speaker 1:Barry Bonds did it at literally every stadium and he's a lefty, and most of those are actually longer than the short ones.
Speaker 2:I told you he didn't have short courses. We need to go out, we need to find the shortest distance allowed and we just need to go out there with those little construction fences and we're going to build until somebody decides to fix it. That's what we should do.
Speaker 1:I think that's just trying to solve a problem. That's not actually a problem. No, it's a problem Only for you.
Speaker 2:I do wonder how many people do care.
Speaker 1:You poll that. I think you are the smallest of small minority. I don't think people think that's an issue. I think there's so few people that are like, yeah, why does that matter? I think it'd be more than you think.
Speaker 2:I think it's a massive minority Because every other sport we want it to be equal and fair. But baseball, we're okay if somebody gets an advantage.
Speaker 1:But that's the thing with baseball too though You're basing it off of, we've got to hit home runs. A lot of these teams don't care, they'll generate small ball and we're going to steal bases and we're going to have faster guys and not not hit for power and it's like all right if I was if that was the only way to score, if there was no other way to score runs unless you hit it over the fence, I think 1 million percent, they would have exact distances everywhere.
Speaker 1:No, but that's not the only way, like in football, the only way to score is to get it across the end zone. There is no other way besides kicking a field goal, which is standard, end zone, which is standard.
Speaker 2:There's no other option, but you just proved my point Like. So why can't we just move the field goals then to different distances? Because you can still score touchdowns. So you don't have no but there's there's, there's like that's the the uniform.
Speaker 1:If you want to score six, you have to do it this way. You're right. Score three, you have to do it this way. Yeah, baseball is always only one.
Speaker 2:There's no, there's no other way to score other than having people on base but you get to bypass the bases by getting a home run, so it's a it's it's like a touchdown. You get the same amount of points exactly because it, but especially if your base is loaded, you get more.
Speaker 1:But that's again. You're generating different. You could bunt technically three times and get on. Should we do away with bunting? That's a whole different thing, it needs to be uniform. See, that argument doesn't even make sense there.
Speaker 2:Yes, it does. It's the same thing you're saying about football, same thing with basketball. No, that's a very different thing in football, in football.
Speaker 1:If you want to score six, how do you do it Score touchdown, touchdown. If you want to score three, how do you do it Kick a field goal? Okay, those are always going to be there. Yeah, the only way to score a run is not dead home run. Everything is always worth one period. That individual is worth one.
Speaker 2:That doesn't matter, that's irrelevant that's you're changing.
Speaker 1:You're changing the subject. No, that's not changing the subject, that's just. That's just making a point in the fact that you can score in many other ways you hit a single you're right. Hit four singles, you score a run.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're probably scoring multiple because guys scored from second or hit one home run and you get a whole lot easier not necessarily because you're you got to think about different things are happening.
Speaker 1:Hitting a home run is not the easiest thing to do in baseball hitting a baseball?
Speaker 2:no, but it is the quickest and easiest way to score. Hit a home run.
Speaker 1:You don't have to worry about anything else but then you would go into, like analytics, like basketball, it's, it's ruined and the whole fact of we're going to only shoot threes baseball. You would get nine home run hitters. Why not? Would you win more games? Absolutely not. Like you're not going to generate the same rbis you're not going to generate on base percentage, you're not going to generate those things. If all you're doing is going for home runs, you're probably going to lose two-thirds, if not more, of your games not if they're close depends on what field you're on, you know.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's the case at all because hitting a home run, still hitting a home run, yeah, like that's hard to do, regardless where you're at I.
Speaker 2:To me it's the same thing, as you know, taking the three-point line and having it different distances at different arenas, like it just wouldn't make sense. It's no, that's that's again there's only one way to score that it's.
Speaker 2:It's a different again that's an irrelevant topic, but what it comes down to is people who like the history of baseball, don't want to. They like the way it is. And if, for me, I don't care that much about the history of baseball, because I get it, but I'm more interested in the game the way it is today and and I want to see it uniform, so it just depends on where you're at with it.
Speaker 1:I still think you are the vast minority. Maybe I don't think there's enough people that that would even be a raised concern.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean clearly because they haven't changed it. If there's enough baseball fans that didn't like it, they would be looking to change it.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't think even your casual fan even cares.
Speaker 2:It's my's, my opinion that matters, so that we should obviously not, because it's not getting changed.
Speaker 1:If your opinion mattered, there'd be a lot of crappy things.
Speaker 2:We should change it.
Speaker 1:Wow, that was uh I'm just saying like that, that's one of those that like literally nobody cares, like that, that's not a, it's not even a topic that gets brought up in in anywhere.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the problem. It should One day. It will.
Speaker 1:You start bringing that up and I just think people move past it like, yeah, that nobody cares.
Speaker 2:No, I think you'd be surprised.
Speaker 1:There's, there's like what Four. There's four of you. Good job, four is enough. If we want to start talking about changing things for the minority, we're going to go downhill quickly, because too many things like that have happened and that causes way more no, no, I'm all about.
Speaker 2:If the baseball fans, the real baseball fans, are fine with it, fine, leave it. I don't care that much, but I still think it's stupid. Like I don't have to care, like yeah, they don't have to change it, I just think but there's a lot of things that people think are stupid.
Speaker 1:That, oh agree, you would never switch you got this topic started no, I know, but what I'm saying, though, is like it, it would make no sense to even think about it, like it's one of those things that's such a non-point for probably 99 of the population. You can be wrong, that's okay I'm listen.
Speaker 2:I'm okay with you being wrong. I'm okay with them keeping it I'm okay with baseball.
Speaker 1:Wrong, I know. I know how to be.
Speaker 2:It's okay I'm okay with baseball being incorrect. They can play it incorrectly if they want. It's fine, it's all right they.
Speaker 1:They've been doing it for a long time. They're going to keep doing it.
Speaker 2:It's always been the weirdest thing to me. I don't know why, but I'm good, we're good, I will. I'll still watch it. I don't care that much.
Speaker 1:How many baseball games do you watch a year? I'm not sitting watching the whole game ever. I'd say, yeah, it can't be many. I can't imagine you watching much of it no, why you say that? No, I, just I, just you. I can't imagine you sitting there watching much of it.
Speaker 2:It's time like there's so many games and they take too long. I don't have time to sit there that long. Anything I watch sports while I leave a nascar, um or anything, I usually record it, watch it late at night and I typically don't watch it all in one night. I have to split it up different nights.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing. I just can't do that with a game. You're going to find out too much.
Speaker 2:You're going to know too much, it's just not possible to not have an answer to it. I do a pretty good job not seeing it. Most of the time it's difficult.
Speaker 1:Especially if it's a big something, it a big something. It's so hard to not see things and at that point I'm like once I know it, I don't care to go back watch it, like once I know the outcome it's, it's pointless to go.
Speaker 2:It depends what it is depends what it is for me, how fun I think it is to watch, like I like tgl, like we had it on here and I already knew who won it. So I think most people are probably like you. They want to watch it live.
Speaker 1:I do some for me, I just if I'm watching sports, I want to see it as it's happening, because once it's over and you see the result, it's like all right if it doesn't matter. Like at that point it doesn't matter, this guy had a great game but they lost. Cool, they lost like it's just kind of no, I, I get that.
Speaker 2:but if I like nascar, especially if I only watched it live, I'd never watch it Like I don't have time. So I'm that way with a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1:Well, but that's the same reason that golf many of those things will never truly be mainstream.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1:It is a small select group that's going to watch it.
Speaker 2:Well, we talked about how busy we are in life. It's hard to sit down and eat dinner together anymore.
Speaker 1:Well, but again, I think that's where something like a TGL I don't know what you would do with racing, that would be similar to that, but I think that's where a thing like TGL has a place, because it's a much quicker, much easier to digest form of that other sport, because I still feel like it's almost like its own separate thing, like it's golf, but it's its own thing.
Speaker 2:Can we do that with other sports? Feel like it's. It's almost like its own separate thing, like it's golf, but it's what's its own.
Speaker 1:Can we do that with other sports, like any other? I don't know, that's what I was saying, like with racing.
Speaker 2:I don't know how you would do that I guess it'd be short, condensed races maybe a little shootouts, I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't know, because like I know they do that whole the simulator racing stuff, but that's that's no fun. That's a hold that like, yeah, this is kind of what this is in tgl, but that's a whole. Like you're still swinging, you're still doing a lot of the same. You're still doing stuff where, like you could say, technically racing, like you're still steering, but very no.
Speaker 2:No, the racing simulator stuff is like playing. It's a video ps5. Yeah, you're just playing a video game. That's not the same.
Speaker 1:No, it's very, very different. Because like that, the the golf simulation stuff, if you suck, you're still gonna suck on simulation like what's uh?
Speaker 2:so basketball, maybe like the three on three stuff they do. Maybe that's kind of trying to be that way, it's still not very good like the big three. Yeah, something like that I don't think it's done very well from my understanding.
Speaker 1:But I think maybe that's a condensed version I think the biggest issue that he's run into because I do remember reading the article on it the NBA won't partner with him If the NBA would somehow.
Speaker 2:That's the problem.
Speaker 1:If the NBA would somehow just do something like kind of like with TGL. They own 20, pga owns 20% TGL. If there was, the NBA did something as because most of those are former NBA guys, almost all of the big three guys are former- pros are former NBA guys.
Speaker 2:Almost all of the big three guys are former pros. He's not a former NBA guy. If a former NBA guy had it like Tiger and Rooney.
Speaker 1:But a lot of team owners aren't either.
Speaker 2:No, I agree.
Speaker 1:Because that's basically all he would like. He's in my understanding from reading that article. He doesn't feel like he has to be the head of it. It's head of it. It's just like he's the one that got it there if the partnership will happen, cool, like, like you know, he'll do some stuff within it, whatever, but he doesn't.
Speaker 2:It doesn't seem like he needs to be the majority, like it's got to be mine or nothing the problem is basketball is one of those that don't really need to be condensed and changed that much like it's a fairly no, I say, basketball is not the same game?
Speaker 1:it's not like you're really only going to do that with a long-distance running thing or a long-distance horse stuff, or motorsports golf. Because golf is a four-day 18-hole. You're talking six to seven hours each day.
Speaker 2:It's weird for me too, as much as I love college football. They could speed those up a little bit, and it would help. Now again, I don't know how to do it.
Speaker 1:There's not a good way to do it, but I don't know. The thing is that, like the game of college football, the pace is has sped up a ton. I think it'd be hard to actually speed up the overall time. That's, but it's. That's a such a fine line.
Speaker 2:I don't know how you close to four hours, but with half times and everything else, like they're getting to be some long games Well but a lot of it, though, is money.
Speaker 1:Look how many of these timeouts are just for me. It is just to show commercials. It is for nothing else. Like, look at basketball. Most of the stoppages in basketball are because of TV timeouts. It's crazy, like every under 12, under four, like as soon as there's a dead ball under there, it's a dead ball under there it's a guaranteed.
Speaker 2:I wonder what these, uh, these small teams that you know getting the tournament come and they're probably not used to that.
Speaker 1:They probably don't have all those tv timeouts if they're not televised more so than used to be, because espn plus is a thing they also do it on there, okay, because? We took our basketball team a couple years ago to unc ashville to watch a game, and they were on espn plus that night okay, they had tv, so they still have tv time so anything that is going to be even streamed, which you get way more now with espn plus than you used to. They still do tv timeouts so it's getting much more common.
Speaker 1:Those teams are a little more accustomed to it than probably when it first started, and it's like we have like 10 extra time outs a game that's. That's what blows my mind is how do you run out of timeouts at that point, like you get one every few minutes? Yeah.
Speaker 2:I agree, basketball is not this year. I don't know how you make that with football, because it's Football.
Speaker 1:There's just a lot of switching things out, there is. But which. Even then they'll do a it kills me. Score a touchdown, then they go to commercial, Kick off and then they do another commercial. It's like, hey, hang on, these guys are coming right onto the field. We don't have to do this. Many Don't have to, Cause NFL is that way. It's a lot of TV timeout stuff and it just really drags it out. But it's all media rights and money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I said, I still enjoy it. That's the one sport I'm probably not going to complain too much about, because I enjoy it. If there's one sport I want to sit and spend time watching, it would be that.
Speaker 1:I mean, I've got something I could easily say that would get you to complain about, but I'm not going to.
Speaker 2:Complain about college football.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just you know, we'll be here all night. What's? Here, we're deep, let's just hear it we're deep, here we go, let's hear it. We're going to end it right here. If I go to college football officiating, I'm good, I love them all.
Speaker 2:You're such a liar I saw the face.
Speaker 1:They are great, you love targeting and exactly how they call it.
Speaker 2:They are great officials. Okay, that's all I can see.
Speaker 1:the face and I know exactly exactly.
Speaker 2:We have to keep this podcast going, okay.
Speaker 1:We would be on a 12-hour podcast if it got going.
Speaker 2:Listen. Officials in any sport are awful anymore.
Speaker 1:See, I told you.
Speaker 2:That's all I need to say I don't even have to get into it, it don't matter. Umpires in baseball, officiating in basketball yeah, targeting, targeting, pass interference, yeah everything's up for interpretation it is. It's probably always been that way.
Speaker 1:We just noticed it always, it always has, and I think it's. I think I don't know that's really ever been different. I think it's probably always been close, within percentage points, to the exact same. It's just people make it more of a point now, mm-hmm, because there are more games. Everything's happening faster. It's just as the game evolved. It's something that people are still playing about.
Speaker 2:I don't want to say it means more now, but there's a lot more eyes on it. Now, maybe with TV and social media and all that stuff, everybody sees it.
Speaker 1:There's a lot more eyes because there's a lot more money involved, yeah, like because there's so much marketing happening, there's so much everything. So you just got attacked. I did, but yeah, I mean by a moth.
Speaker 2:Everybody calm down, I'm okay, it was a moth, nobody was worried. Nobody was that worried. It was like you just nonchalantly said you just got attacked.
Speaker 1:I do believe that we would have made that more of an issue if actually something happened. But a moth ran into you. I think it'll be all right.
Speaker 2:Anyways, yeah, I got nothing bad to say about officials. They're all great, so let's move on.
Speaker 1:You just usually don't get fined.
Speaker 2:That's all that is. That's exactly it.
Speaker 1:Well, on that note, finally, David didn't have something to complain about. We're going to end for the week.
Speaker 2:I love everything.
Speaker 1:But we thank you guys for joining us and again, if you have anything you'd like to hear us talk about, anything that you find interesting, that you think we might find interesting, which is really a whole lot of things we kind of go, I like everything.
Speaker 2:You think I kind of go, I like everything. You think I hate everything. I actually like everything. Now I like to hate some things, but I do like everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, sure.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:And on that bombshell, which no one believes we're going to end. So, thank you guys for joining us and we'll see you next week. Yep, see you guys for joining us and we'll see you next week. Yep, see you guys.