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Trades, Debates, and 90s Nostalgia
What if Luka Doncic's shocking trade to the Lakers was more than just a strategic move? We unravel the layers behind this headline-making decision and explore the media frenzy surrounding Luka's sudden criticism. Our conversation navigates the ripple effects of this trade, speculating on long-term impacts for both the Lakers and Mavericks, and pondering whether this is a game-changer for the NBA landscape. We also delve into the timeless GOAT debate, weighing the legacies of Jordan, Kobe, and LeBron, and examining how each era shaped the evolution of basketball.
Join us as we dissect the challenging world of NBA trades and player contracts, shedding light on the often unseen complexities that athletes endure both on and off the court. From financial implications to ethical dilemmas, we break down the intricate dance between teams and players. Our banter extends to college basketball's coaching dynamics, where we analyze powerhouse programs like Kentucky and North Carolina, and question whether iconic coaches like John Calipari are living up to expectations. The conversation also touches on the unpredictable nature of this season's standings and the thrill of March Madness.
Beyond sports, we take a nostalgic ride through 90s music, video rental memories, and the eternal Coke vs. Pepsi debate. We reflect on how technology has reshaped our experiences, from the way we consume music to the way we choose our favorite sodas. Our lively exchanges on regional dialects and pop culture nuances promise a trip down memory lane that's both entertaining and thoughtful. Whether debating sports legends or reminiscing about the simpler joys of a Blockbuster night, this episode is packed with laughs, insights, and a touch of nostalgia.
welcome back to the non-mean podcast. I'm tyler here with david as he's over there dancing.
Speaker 2:Thank you for joining us again.
Speaker 1:Uh, real quick, just want to say again you're gonna hear this a lot proudly sponsored by for you golf. Um, for you golf really love seeing that we're able to do both things. So excited to keep pushing on both of those fronts moving into 2025. Um, first off, we've been very distracted. We've been recording what feels like forever before we actually got started. We've had some good music playing in the background. So, we're kind of.
Speaker 2:Well, just a little behind the scenes. So you know, every time we record we kind of come out and we just start talking naturally, and just kind of build up what we're going to do, and we'll play music in the background and tonight we get wrapped up in it. It's usually to build the energy.
Speaker 1:Because, like Tonight, we get wrapped up in it. It's usually to build the energy, Because usually we come out and it's been a long day and you've got to try to find a little bit of that spark, and so usually it's like all right, play some music. And recently, if you listen on Spotify, we found a playlist called Biggest Hits of All Time and it goes back from 1950s. All the way through. It's an almost 55-hour playlist. That's some good stuff and it's been. We got sucked into it a lot tonight.
Speaker 2:So we've been all over the map and I wish we could play all the music and talk about. You know what we've been talking about for 30 minutes. I can't afford their royalty fees, though is the problem.
Speaker 1:I know that's the problem and I don't want the listeners to have to pay for that. So yeah, so you're going to Well our topics could change rather quickly depending on what's playing in the background. That's right, because I mean, here's the thing. We've had a lot happen this week, both sports world, both real world.
Speaker 2:It has felt like a really long week.
Speaker 1:It has. Since we last recorded, it's felt like there's been a lot of things pop up, whether it's something we talk about on the podcast or it's just things Like a lot of things are happening it is podcast or it's just things like a lot of things are happening.
Speaker 2:It is um. I feel like we're getting into a lot of youth sports right now because the spring's coming.
Speaker 1:You just completely cut out and I just cut out that's no good so there's a weird cut first, first real technical difficulties we've had, so we've gone. This will be week 12 and that's the first time we've had difficulties.
Speaker 2:I feel like we're doing pretty good, it happened in like the first. What two minutes? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I don't know if that's a sign of people telling us finally shut up or if we're just it could be, but either way, we're going to keep going because that's just what we do. That that's just what we do. We have fun with it.
Speaker 1:So, as we were saying, lots happening all around whether it's local, whether it's national, whether it's whatever Big news in the sports world shook everybody the other night. We don't really talk NBA. We will as it gets closer to playoffs, because the NBA season doesn't feel like much but Luka Doncic of the Mavericks being traded to the Lakers seemingly out of nowhere.
Speaker 2:Nobody knew it was coming Like nobody, not the players.
Speaker 1:LeBron claims he didn't either, but I feel like that's a load of crap.
Speaker 2:I don't think anything happens there without LeBron knowing. So yeah, I'm not so Did you see the interview with Anthony Davis, like, I think, after their game, and they're talking to him about his time?
Speaker 1:So the one right after the game where they said something about legacy or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he's like you say that, like I'm not going to be here.
Speaker 1:And they're like no, we hadn't heard anything.
Speaker 2:But then you hear a guy in the background. Go, just look at your phone.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I saw that Somebody posted it because I hadn't seen it and I was like, oh, that's questionable. And I watched it and was thinking somebody knew something, somebody let something slip, because it's just not a line of questioning that most reporters are going to do with a player, unless there's something, whether they're asking for a trade or there's rumors. This one felt like it just happened. Who do you think initiated it? There's no way that the Lakers did. I wouldn't think so either, but I feel like everybody thinks a player like that. Because here's the thing AD, we could probably argue is he truly a superstar of the league? Is he a star?
Speaker 2:Yes, he's right on the board. Is he a superstar?
Speaker 1:I don't know. We could argue. I could probably argue both ways. Yeah, there's no arguing for Luca. Luca is a superstar.
Speaker 2:So is there just a locker room issue in Dallas and they just, or he heads with ownership?
Speaker 1:I was talking to Brad about this. So we went with my dad to an appointment the other day. We were in the car kind of all talking about it, and he kind of brought up the point. Every time that somebody wants to trade somebody, you start hearing the negative and it's like, well, was it really negative or is it just something to try to kind of soften the blow?
Speaker 2:Justify what you did.
Speaker 1:Because it was all of a sudden. Well, luka's got fat. Yeah, everybody's talking about Luka's weight all of a sudden, and it's like the man's, he's still. He could probably be 300 pounds and still out there With his slow moves and slow jump shot. You can't stop him. Yeah, it's just the way. I mean just his play style. You can't do it. So it's very interesting. So who got the better deal? Long term, for sure the Lakers, you think so. Short term, I don't know that LeBron and Luka Could play together. That's a lot of people that need the ball and there's only one on the court.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know how that's going to work out Now.
Speaker 1:In my opinion and I argued this with our buddy Will last night in my opinion, lebron is not the greatest of all time, absolutely not.
Speaker 2:To.
Speaker 1:Will. There is nobody besides LeBron. Really, I did not know that he's number one on top of the list period.
Speaker 2:So Will's a little bit younger than us, he is.
Speaker 1:But still. But he went as far, and I tried to not rip his throat out when he said this. He went as far as he was like Michael Jordan was a bum and I was like, wow. But what I will say, though? That younger, younger generation, I do feel like most of them Flocked to LeBron because that's what they got to witness, they saw it.
Speaker 2:But even when I watch anything NBA today, I don't think he's the best in the league right now.
Speaker 1:I really don't. I definitely don't say now but LeBron's no longer a superstar. Lebron is not a superstar of the league.
Speaker 2:When he played with Kobe. Kobe was better.
Speaker 1:So that's hard to say, though, just because I better. But that was so. That's hard to say, though, just because I'm not disagreeing. But that was like lebron's first few years, like his first couple. I don't feel like lebron really came into his own until like season three, season four. He had great stats before that, but like season three, season four, it was like now it's my league and I'm gonna take it over and he just kind of did.
Speaker 2:I've always felt like he just complained too much, always had issues. I don't think there was ever any defense. I think we've talked about that a little bit.
Speaker 1:I do enjoy the GOAT conversation. I enjoy the people that try to argue for Kobe and I can kind of see some of their, their arguments. I'm not, I don't really just downplay it, but it is so hard to compare some of it. The leagues when these guys played is so different. The league LeBron has played in is not the league Jordan played in. It's not physical at all. So there's so many guys that I think about and I'm looking at today's guys or even looking at guys back then, like somebody we talked about here recently, like a Tony Kukoc.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Solid for the.
Speaker 1:Bulls. He was a very good role player for the Bulls. I don't know that he could make it today.
Speaker 2:He was a shooter, so that might help. He was more that stretch, but he's not quick enough, those guys?
Speaker 1:then it wasn't the athleticism that we're seeing. It was ball players, not athletes.
Speaker 2:When we talk about the GOAT, I always go Michael Jordan first, yes, and I see Kobe second. From there I can talk about it, but I'd be curious to talk to somebody. You talked to people younger than us and he says LeBron. What about somebody older than us? Do they say MJ, or is there somebody? I think there's a lot.
Speaker 1:A little Chamberlain no, I think there's a lot. Or Will Chamberlain no, I think there's a lot. That kind of naturally go to MJ because they've gotten to see it from way, way back all the way in through. I think they'll recognize some you know Kareems, they'll recognize you know the Wills Larry Bird. But at the end of the day I still think they say but Jordan was different. Like when you watch jordan, like jordan paved the way for us to really have a true goat. Like for us to say we have these comparisons to jordan because here's the thing lebron came to the league. He was being compared to jordan. Yeah, like we were comparing him to the best of all time.
Speaker 2:And we still try to wasn't that a pretty good stretch of time from jordan to lebron, like jordan when he Well, I mean.
Speaker 1:Jordan played into the 2000s. Well, he did, but I'm saying when he was the GOAT, so mid-90s, so Jordan's late 90s is when it was like the established he's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because you've got to think like 96, 98, you know that era that's. Even then Everybody knew like you don't mess with Jordan, like you don't talk to Jordan, you don't run your mouth to Jordan because he'll go hit 50 just because you made a bet? Exactly yeah, and that's after he played 36 holes of golf.
Speaker 2:The morning of, but you and I was fairly young even when that was going on, and I still remember it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so I was really more probably involved and into basketball during the Kobe era than any. Yeah, I can see that, but I still recognize that I think Jordan was greater. If we get to just scoring, I think Kobe may be a better scorer overall than Jordan but I think Jordan as an overall player is just a different thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Kobe could lock you down, though, when he wanted.
Speaker 1:Kobe was one of the greater guard defenders ever he was, he had the mindset.
Speaker 2:That was just, but I think that's what made him so great is kobe's.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's the whole reason they call it mom of mentality, like his mindset was different than anyone's ever played.
Speaker 2:I feel like we've talked about him a little bit in the past on the podcast of that mentality. Right, it's just that's different yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's to me. You can't give that to anybody Like if I have his mentality, I'm still not a high-level NBA guy because I don't have the features that a lot of these guys have the argument for LeBron comes from a lot of the younger generation.
Speaker 2:You know some younger than us.
Speaker 1:So when you think of the nba, say post kobe. Who are you like? Is it lebron for?
Speaker 2:you. Are you talking like on my list? Like best post kobe, like kobe and jordan's out of it. From when would that? Be well, so do you mean like do?
Speaker 1:you mean like who do I put on my list, or who do I who's? The who do I then say is like all right, right, well, it's their league.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, it's LeBron.
Speaker 1:You think so. So when you start to say who's the face of the league?
Speaker 2:who owns the league? Who is? But is he the best player In his time that he's been in the league?
Speaker 1:I think he was for a good portion of it. I do. I think he was the most dominant across the board purely because you know you take a look at that Cleveland team that he won a championship with other than Kyrie, who could be one of the most skilled people to ever play basketball just with his, his, the total skill package that he has very potentially could be up there as far as skill level, not saying he's one of the greats like yeah, his overall, just individual skill is so impressive.
Speaker 1:Um, but other than that, who was on that team?
Speaker 2:he didn't have a lot up there.
Speaker 1:There wasn't much there I mean even the team before that that he took to the finals.
Speaker 2:There was nobody on it seeing that I'm sitting here thinking and there's got to be somebody, because I just don't. I don't think I've ever looked at LeBron and thought the greatness that I hear other people talk about of him.
Speaker 1:So I think the hard part is so many people look at greatness as stats. He's got a lot of stats.
Speaker 2:He's got a lot of stats. I'm with you there.
Speaker 1:Greatest sorry, that's the term everybody wants to use the greatest scorer. I don't think he's the greatest scorer. That's the term everybody wants to use. The greatest scorer I don't think he's the greatest scorer. He has most points. Yeah, like I wouldn't call him the greatest scorer of all time. It took him longer to get them.
Speaker 1:So that was my argument, kind of, with Will. If Jordan played as many seasons as LeBron, didn't take the breaks, didn't go leave to do baseball, didn't you know all that stuff, we could be talking a very different story, I think so. Yeah, um, but I think with Kobe I think Kobe too, like some of his injuries that he, you know he had, you know the Achilles that he had, or some of the knee problems he had when he was young, when all of a sudden he's like, hey, I'm going to stop dunking, I'm not going to the rim as much as I used to when he really developed that that little fader, you know, you get some of those kind of things um, I think it's probably a different story see, I even think durant was really good when, when he was in his prime.
Speaker 2:He's getting older too now, so I think what's really hard.
Speaker 1:There came to a point, and I don't know exactly what year, but you start to think and you've got a guy like Durant, who at one point was him and Harden were probably fighting to be the best scorer in NBA. Because James Harden another guy that he can just put up points quick. You've got like a Harden or, excuse me, not a Harden but a Durant. Then you have the name of LeBron, but you had Carmelo.
Speaker 2:Carmelo's another one.
Speaker 1:You had a lot of these guys, which again Carmelo's kind of offense, only he wasn't going to play defense. But he went to Syracuse for a reason he could sit in the zone and not have to play much defense, but there's just so many. There's been a lot more talent come through while LeBron's been in Like superstar status. Yeah, when you start looking at Giannis, you start looking at.
Speaker 2:Jokich, are all these guys scores like you're talking about, like they'll put up the numbers?
Speaker 1:so not all of them. So like to me nicole yokich at the nuggets, he's as much facilitator. He, he controls the game a lot. Now, he can score, he does put a lot of points, but he controls the game in a lot of ways, um, whether it's tempo, whether it's just right time, right moment type thing, he, he does control it. Now I will say LeBron has been pretty good at that in his career.
Speaker 1:I mean, he does have a lot of assists, but it does help when you have Wade and Bosh on your team those years in Miami getting those stats, a lot of people don't really look at Chris Bosh being as good as he really was. I think he was really good. He was fantastic In the time. He may have been the best four in the game Because Duncan was already aging.
Speaker 2:I was going to say Duncan would be the other one to come by.
Speaker 1:You had some of these older ones that were aging and the game started to shift. Because that's another thing. Me and Brad talked about A guy like DeAndre Jordan. So much athleticism, but kind of halfway through his career the game switched. Because kind of when we go back and we say some of those guys from back then couldn't play today, the same way some of the guys today couldn't play back then. Perfect example, we said, was Ben Wallace for the Pistons. He was defensive player of the year, he was rebounding leader, he was all this and that and he was like 6'7", 6'8".
Speaker 1:That doesn't fit today he can't play against uh yokich or imbeed or anthony davis, like he's not playing against that type of guy. Yeah, um, but you also weren't seeing that type of guy back then no, your bigs now are so athletic so much more athletic.
Speaker 1:But so that was the argument I kind of made with Will yesterday. I don't see the league full of basketball players. I see the league full of athletes. Yeah, I could see that, and I'm not saying they can't play basketball. But if you're really that, if you are a top-tier level athlete, you can do anything, it's what you've put your time into. If some of these guys would have went and said football from a young age, would the talent that they have they'd have been they can do that yeah.
Speaker 1:Like it's just it's a different athletes, different thing. Cause you look at a guy like Steve Kerr, he couldn't play today, he's too slow Like he might make a team because he's he can spot him and hit a three, kind of the Kyle Corver type. Just the older version of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's just. The league is so, so different To me. It's much easier Now. It's not as fun, but it's much easier to have the argument of who is the best in each era, like that to me is the easier conversation.
Speaker 2:I get you know the LeBron and I might can handle him. Third, he ain't never going in front of MJ and Kobe. To me, I don't care what anybody says, and that's what I'm going to say.
Speaker 1:In my mind what I always find hard. We start making these comparisons and you're like oh, we look at this, this and this, but I don't think there's ever been a more dominant player in the league than Shaquille O'Neal. Oh, I agree, yeah, but why don't we talk about him being higher on the list?
Speaker 2:You know, he come to my mind when we were talking about anybody better than. Lebron.
Speaker 1:So his prime was before LeBron making it.
Speaker 2:It was yeah, but if I'm talking a top five list, is he?
Speaker 1:better than LeBron.
Speaker 2:Who's going to guard him?
Speaker 1:Nobody. You go back and look at some of his highlights. One of the greatest bigs of all time, David Robinson, who played for the Spurs he made him look childish.
Speaker 2:That's not what anybody does today. They want you to be able to run and jump and shoot threes.
Speaker 1:That's why Shaq, on TNT, he always says my prime, none of these guys could guard me. He said none of them are keeping me from 50. You're going to have to make me shoot free throws because you couldn't.
Speaker 2:That's what they do, Like Rudy.
Speaker 1:Gobert thinks he could cover Shaq. Yeah, no, like Rudy, gobert is a more athletic. What's his name? Bradley? He used to play for the Mavericks big, tall, white guy. Like. That's what he is. Like. He's not no Like. I watched a video the other day. He's not no Like. I watched a video the other day. It's Rudy Gobert warming up for a game. He's like 7'2". Misses eight layups in a row oh my gosh. And it's like a Mike-in drill. Like he, literally like he's already there, he's at the rim and he's shorting it.
Speaker 1:Every one of them is short and I'm like you may come out and be like, oh yeah, I was working on rebounding. Bullcrap, yeah, bullcrap. No, it is not good for any basketball player's mentality to sit there and purposely miss that many shots. Yeah, like you're not kobe, you don't have the mentality of like I'll just switch it. So yeah, it's very hard.
Speaker 2:We kind of get on this from the trade. But yeah, I'm curious to see, uh, how the trade pans out out, who it works out for.
Speaker 1:That feels like a drama-filled place right now. I don't know that I want to be in LA no, dealing with LeBron and his son and JJ Redick's first-year coach. To me, it's just not a place that I'd really be happy.
Speaker 2:It's strange to me, though, that you play for these teams and you give everything to them, and you live there and you're there for years, and, all of a sudden, one day it's like, oh yeah, by the way, you're out.
Speaker 1:So there's a lot of those guys that you see will request, like maybe they're just unhappy there or they want to go to a bigger market, because obviously LA is LA, new York.
Speaker 2:But then you're kind of planning it. You know it's coming. So the rumor is luca bought a 15 million dollar house last week in dallas oh my gosh, and I'm like, if that happened, I'm not happy with ownership what so what do you do, like like anthony davis, he's in la right, he's gotta go to dallas now. Yep, you just jump on a plane, take some clothes, grab an apartment. I mean, I'm sure it's a nice apartment. I used to always wonder that.
Speaker 1:And then Shaq talked about it when he got moved a couple of times. He was at the heat and they moved him to, I think, the Sun, I'm sure they don't touch anything. Somebody moves them, does everything for them. But he basically said I loaded up some stuff flew. I think it was Phoenix that he was going to. I loaded up some stuff flew I think it was Phoenix that he was going to. And he said and I went to Walmart and spent like $15,000. Oh my gosh. And it got declined.
Speaker 2:I think I remember him.
Speaker 1:They're looking at him and they're like this is Shaq. Like why is he getting declined? He's like I promise. And they're like he gets a phone call. Hey, we think there's a fraudulent charge.
Speaker 1:He's like no, it's me I'm in phoenix now and he's like, and they're like, oh, okay, and they cleared it all up, yeah, but he basically like, I went and rented a nice place. You know, most of them don't buy a house that quickly, especially right after a trade. If you're not the big focal point of the team, you still could get moved. To get moved, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I don't remember that video because I always should think, think about it.
Speaker 1:I was like, yeah, what do they do? It's a business, I get it. It's a business. I know Amanda always talks about it. She's like I always hate the idea of somebody getting traded and I'm like contracts and money moving is a business and they know what they sign up for. This isn't Well. Some of them get At that too and like that's you almost have to. Especially nowadays you have to be superstar status to have that, like your run-of-the-mill guy can't get a no trade clause.
Speaker 2:No, I agree with that.
Speaker 1:You may be able to. We kind of talked about like with baseball. Even most of those guys can't do it unless they there's like maybe three or four teams they can say you just can't trade me here, so you may get some of that. But I think for the most part these guys are at the mercy, you know, of the ownership for me that it seems really weird.
Speaker 2:But I guess when you're living that lifestyle, that you're traveling all the time anyways and you've got money and none of that matters everybody does stuff for you all the time anyways, like me. If you tell me you got to pack up and be here next week to their job, I got a lot I got to take care of before right, there's a lot of things to straighten out before I get there. Yeah, I mean, I guess if you got kids that's always hard, but literally you jump on a plane to fly back and forth.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's not well, these guys, though, even even at that level that that have kids. It's such a part of it for them. And again, again, this isn't Anthony Davis' first move. He went from New Orleans to LA, so that's a little bit different. But I did see where he basically lost a bonus, like a $5-point-something million potential bonus. But they actually said he's going to end up making more because he'll pay less taxes in Texas than he will in California.
Speaker 2:That's crazy.
Speaker 1:So I'm like, well, I guess he really I mean I think that's how the agents basically got around like all right, we'll forego it because he's going to make a little bit more than that. So it's like well, I got my bonus either way. Yeah, which, if we're complaining about you didn't get your $5.7 million bonus, I don't feel bad for you, like when you're talking if you earned it, you earned it, right, you're talking. You make what? 10, 15, 20 a year?
Speaker 2:I don't feel as bad for you, it's still my money I, I get that, but it's.
Speaker 1:It's very hard for the everyday man to say, oh, boohoo, you didn't get.
Speaker 2:You didn't get your extra couple million like that's where it's like come on it does feel that way, yeah, and I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1:But no, so I, if you're eligible for one, which it drives me nuts you'll see these nfl guys. They need one more touchdown or a couple more catches and they don't play them and I'm like, all right, that's messed up like I don't agree.
Speaker 2:You know exactly why.
Speaker 1:Like the, cowboys this year did that with the backup quarterback. If he just started that last game he was eligible for like 500 000. So in the grand scheme not very big.
Speaker 1:When you're talking cowboys are a billion dollar yeah that's nothing to them, like multi-billion dollar team 500 grand is nothing. Like to me. I'm like all right, yeah, you deserve it. You stepped up when we needed you, you deserve it. And they started the third string and I'm like that's that to me. I'm like all right, yeah, cut me, I'll find a backup spot somewhere else.
Speaker 2:Like it's not worth it. Well, that's why I say, no matter how much money he's already making, like, that's my money, I deserve that.
Speaker 1:So I'm gonna be upset if you so it's a little harder when you're talking about guys in his level than than like a backup quarterback, I mean like cooper rush for the cowboys, that's. Who is that? Yeah, like nobody knows who that is. We only know because if you're a cowboy fan you kind of like, well, I had to watch him. But a guy like anthony davis, the amount of money he's making and so many sponsorships and deals and commercials and all this, does he actually know what he's making?
Speaker 2:You don't think he was kind of sitting there going. Oh man, I was really wanting that.
Speaker 1:I was going to buy another part of the house I got to buy my second yacht. Yeah, I feel bad for you, anthony. Don't shave your unibrow, I'm sick of that thing.
Speaker 2:Maybe he had it spent and he was like yeah, it's five minutes coming in buying me a couple cars, you know.
Speaker 1:Sell your LA house. You're going to make it back. You're going to make more than that back. You're the only house that's not burnt down.
Speaker 2:Do you think they do sell them?
Speaker 1:Some I feel like do Like. You'll see some that keep it Might as well. Keep a vacation house? I think some, but I don't feel like he's that deep in his career.
Speaker 2:I feel like he may sell it. Yeah, I have quite a bit of money then I don't know I don't know if a house is cheaper in Dallas than it is in LA.
Speaker 1:I would assume. So I can't imagine anything in in Texas, anywhere in the country or anywhere in the state of texas is as expensive as it is in la. Everything's bigger in texas, yes, but la is historically known as highest taxes, highest price, so I can't imagine.
Speaker 2:I can't imagine it would be so I'm gonna make this crazy transition here. Okay, let's go, because you said unibrow I did okay.
Speaker 1:I did well. I've always hated that about him. I'm like that's not a cool thing to be like proud of.
Speaker 2:You know he kept that even from Kentucky and it just kind of became. But he was a nerd when he went to.
Speaker 1:Kentucky.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean really like when you like, when you see him. When he came in like he was, he was not.
Speaker 2:He's got a twin sister too.
Speaker 1:Sorry.
Speaker 2:I don't know if she has a unibrow. I don't know, but I just can't imagine, her being a sight to look at. This is not the same, but similar. Okay, I watched TGL last night. I watched it late and it recorded.
Speaker 1:Oh, my gosh Before you get into that. Sorry, I saw the ratings slipped again, Did they? Because nobody knows when they're playing.
Speaker 2:Oh I know, I had no clue. It was last night, it was like nine.
Speaker 1:Last night it was between a couple basketball games, like I had no clue when it was so I was like I don't even know when to watch. I was looking for it Monday. It didn't happen. I was like, all right well.
Speaker 2:I guess I missed it. So we had Boston versus LA, okay.
Speaker 1:Keegan Bradley. Yes.
Speaker 2:His mustache.
Speaker 1:It's bad.
Speaker 2:No, I think it's the best thing ever.
Speaker 1:Okay, did it grow in a little bit? I mean, I haven't seen him in a couple weeks.
Speaker 2:I thought I was watching Tom Selleck.
Speaker 1:The last time I saw his mustache it was Like white panel vein creepy.
Speaker 2:I mean, it was pretty rough.
Speaker 1:It was pretty rough If it grew in thicker, it just wasn't thick enough.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's thick.
Speaker 1:Before it didn't feel like it was just there. No, I just so. I questioned it.
Speaker 2:I don't, it just fits him. I don't know why it just Does it fit him as Captain America?
Speaker 1:Yes, because this is the Ryder Cup coaching team.
Speaker 2:Okay, I guess I probably knew that.
Speaker 1:But he's got to show me more Than what he's shown in TGL.
Speaker 2:He's been so bad. So a lot of those guys have been really bad in TGL. Last night they had the first Misread.
Speaker 1:Right Of the system. Did you get to see it? No, I was gonna go watch it and I completely forgot so it tommy fleetwood, he would.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he hits a shot and like, even on the screen you can't tell it just kind of went to some grass somewhere and you're like, was he? Hitting from fairway rough sand, like what was the scenario I want to say fairway okay, he was on grass, yeah and he just kind of stopped and looked around and and even you could tell like everybody at the place they're, they're watching, they're kind of like what, what just?
Speaker 2:happened and then the announcer is like oh, we had a misread, so he's going to get to hit again. And I was like, interesting that I get it. You know, in a competition you want that shot whether it's good or bad. If you're him and it's a bad shot, you want it again. Obviously, if it's your best shot, you don't want to have to do it again. So he might have been like man, I just hit the best shot ever and now I've got to redo it.
Speaker 1:Well. So I feel like when I saw their initial rules, if it's a misread, that's positive. They almost don't even consider it a misread. I think they're only consider it when it's like showing like a horrible shank or like a ball didn't go anywhere this one was weird.
Speaker 2:I don't. I couldn't even tell on the screen where it actually went, so I don't know if it went off somewhere, barely went anywhere. I'm not sure. But I also saw some guys talking when, when tiger played, they were like do you really think tiger flew the green 20 yards?
Speaker 1:no, so I thought that was a misread, I remember. I remember that one because even they talked about uh, charlie was making fun of him and it was like they they tried to play it up like oh, adrenaline's pumping this. I'm like how many majors does that? Mean one and you're saying he's got an adrenaline hitting to a screen he can't handle the in this little stadium.
Speaker 1:I'm like there's no way he flew a green with a wedge by 20 yards. Yeah, because I mean it wasn't bladed, it wasn't a mishit like he hit it clean and he flew it like, but there's a lot of guys that hit shots that you can tell on their face. They question it they're not sure short or it it does, just does something different and they're not sure I guess that's part of it.
Speaker 2:Um, as a professional golfer, I don't think I would enjoy that, knowing like, hey, I'm good, I can hit the shot, and now I'm on national tv in this, this event and it looks like I can't that would bother me a little bit.
Speaker 1:We've had a bunch of people say we don't think it's good for these guys to be mid-season or like into the season playing in this. But to rory just went one. Rory just won shane lowry's been like top five in several um. You've had a lot of these guys that have they were high level.
Speaker 2:They were kind of talking about that on the broadcast, about how so many of the tgo guys done really well at pebble beach. I wonder if it's just they're getting.
Speaker 1:It's not just practice repetition. They're getting competitive holes in, not just going out and playing on the course with your buddies. You are getting like I'm trying to win holes in, so I wonder if that's maybe helping because you're just in that mentality more so I'm curious about that some guys, though, they struggle around the green.
Speaker 2:They struggle putting it's a different feel um colin mokawa. Oh yeah, it was great I mean, he's fantastic though he was putting, so LA played last night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, la destroyed them. Speaking of LA, did you see the news about them? Oh, I saw a new ownership or something Good good, Good good, that's right has become a I don't know if they said majority or partial owner of the LA team. Yeah, and one thing we're starting to see is we're starting to see some of these teams get picked up in kind of having like a overall overarching sponsor. How does that work?
Speaker 2:Ownership. Like you don't, you're not paying the players.
Speaker 1:So so I think I think you're basically putting money back into the league to help further the league, okay. So by them getting into and again, I don't know if these players get paid or not, I'm sure they have to be getting something. They're not doing it for free.
Speaker 2:I don't know how it works.
Speaker 1:There's no way they're doing it for free I don't think so but a team like LA. It was interesting to me that Good Good bought that team because they're in Texas, they're in Dallas, so I just kind of felt like they maybe went more towards that. But they went with the LA team team. What is great for them? So they're, they're part of callaway, they that's who they've been signed with for a while. They are like they're not just like hey, we're sponsored by callaway, they are like partnered, teamed with callaway. They're like doing their own callaway clubs. They're like they're getting all the like top end treatment, which is really cool to see a youtube space getting that yeah yeah, but seeing more.
Speaker 1:kawa and fleetwood are on LA. Those are tailor-made guys so you never get to see them in their videos. Now you do, now you can. So now we're going to get to see some of the matches or entertaining stuff that they do. I mean they'll do Wheel of Not Ideal. I mean, obviously I watch a lot of their content.
Speaker 2:I think it's a lot of fun. It's very interesting.
Speaker 1:I know of them but I don't watch a lot of their stuff. I I really like youtube. I watch a lot of stuff on there and the golf content to me is in a pretty pivotal spot. Um, there's some guys you can tell they're starting to go back to what got them to where they are, instead of trying to just like, oh, we've made it, now we're doing stuff because it started to lack off a little bit. But I think here lately these guys are really pumping some good content and good videos.
Speaker 2:I'd say watching it last night I thought la was pretty fun to watch gotcha. Um, they had a little bit of personality I'm. I think they play atlanta maybe on that that would be exciting. So I mean atlanta could be fun that's probably where I'm going to pick my team. It's probably going to be between them two.
Speaker 1:I don't know why, but I feel like it's really hard for me to pick like an LA team. That just feels kind of odd. It is yeah, and I can't really even give you an answer to that. I'm leaning.
Speaker 2:Atlanta would be my team, but LA was fun to watch. La just blew them out and all that was Colin.
Speaker 1:He was amazing. There's been one close match and that was Tiger and Rory.
Speaker 2:That was it, and there's some questions about the shot clock violation.
Speaker 1:I still question some of that as to how we got it as close as it was. But some of these other guys, I think, are just like I'm here to win and I'm going to put you out of it and just go.
Speaker 2:Well, it was another match, too, where they did not throw the hammer not one time, but they got off to a lead. They didn't need to.
Speaker 1:Well, so for them. Yeah, so were they holding it, yeah they held it. So that's the one thing that I'm almost like.
Speaker 2:I wonder if there's a rule they could put in a stipulation of if you're so far behind you automatically get the hammer to your team, or just just to try to give you one little boost, almost like timeouts. If you don't use certain number of timeouts in the first half, you lose them. Right, so kind of you got so many holes to use it, or you lose, it goes the other team. You know something?
Speaker 1:yeah, just to kind of throw it around a little bit, because yeah it. The thing is, if you come out you win the first hole, but you're holding the hammer. I may look to never throw it yeah, and that's what it's almost like.
Speaker 2:Why would I?
Speaker 1:it's gonna benefit, it's not even that I'm worried about me getting that extra. I don't want you to have the opportunity to get a free win, yep, or a potential double point.
Speaker 2:If you're up three to nothing yeah, you don't want to give them the hammer then now they can potentially get two. Uh, I had to change that song.
Speaker 1:You would have heard me sing a little tina turner in the background was was hard not to sing it but I thought it was uh, I think it's getting better.
Speaker 2:It's still got some things I need to work out, but still, okay, let's just go. Let's go hate it. Here's a hate it right here. Oh wow, we went so real quick.
Speaker 1:This is part of our newer segment love it hate it real easy for david to. Of our newer segment Love it, Hate it. Real easy for David to hate things. So he's jumping on it, he's ready.
Speaker 2:I mentioned it a little bit, but this week it was even worse and it's on TGL, the little lip they use in the bunker. I absolutely hate.
Speaker 1:That replicates nothing. I'm talking about the. So they've got like a uh, it's on some type of little motor, it's a, basically a small little board with grass on the board.
Speaker 2:It's like like two feet tall, so at max it can be. Yeah so here you look on the screen and they're in this bunker with this lip and the thing moves six inches up there.
Speaker 1:I'm like that ain't doing anything I really wish everybody could see the hand motions like it's, it's, it's a hate.
Speaker 2:It is a hate because every time I see them and they'll, you know, real politely and easily put their ball in the sand right on the top right and then the lip comes up six inches and you're like come on, but they, they always lay that ball pretty far back in that bunker.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that lip is nowhere close to them I'm telling you, there was one.
Speaker 2:I saw the lip. It was up you know a good couple feet and they're like, yeah, I think the lips all the way up and that was like the max it had.
Speaker 1:And then there's another one later on play out of pop bunkers that at st andrews like they're. They're not worried about that little two foot stopping anything.
Speaker 2:And then they go to another one and, like I said you, you see them in this bunker and I'm like, oh, how are they going to do this? And and I'm thinking the thing's going to be all the way up and it's six inches up and he just it's right like it was.
Speaker 1:Not even think that it's there, no it didn't bother it a bit.
Speaker 2:I feel the same way about the rough like that. Ain't no rough, that's the grass just I want an inch taller and rough.
Speaker 1:I want it to be like the six inch can't see your ball rough I do too.
Speaker 2:I want to be like absolutely punished rough it needs to be rough um they had won. A ball stopped like right on the side of the hill and the guys are even laughing. They're like you wouldn't be able to stand to hit that right and it just, and yet you know you're perfect so I I get it, but but the the lip on the bunker stop. I mean, just leave it down. That's stupid.
Speaker 1:I hate that well, I mean I wasn't quite ready to go to my love it for the week.
Speaker 2:Well, we was just on the topic, that's all right.
Speaker 1:We're going to make another change then. I guess because my love it and I've laughed about this since it started and it's going to take us a different direction we're away from TGL. I'll go and tell you that, Okay, we're making the switch where we're going. I love the fact that our current president, donald trump, has put elon musk in charge of viewing the budget and basically saying, hey, this is where all of our wasted taxpayer money is going and they're just putting it out there, oh, my goodness. So me and my wife were talking about a little bit last night at some of the more just ridiculous things. Um, there was one it was. It was a transgender comic book. I saw that and I'm like we spent close to like a hundred thousand dollars. It's in another country, yeah. And then there was a whole basically trying to start a DEI program diversity, equity, inclusion, whatever it's called. It makes no sense in Sweden.
Speaker 2:I don't understand.
Speaker 1:It's like this is taxpayer dollars, mm-hmm. So I have loved the fact that most of the people you're seeing angry currently is the Democrats on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They're not mad about what they're saying the money was spent on. They're mad that Elon Musk is the one putting it out what they spent the money on, they're mad that a non, they're trying to say, well, he doesn't belong.
Speaker 2:The president can put whoever he wants, doing whatever he wants. It doesn't make sense, and I love that too. I'm just going to say that's a good love it, brian, clip it.
Speaker 1:I need it. Listen, you say this every week.
Speaker 2:I normally agree with your love it. You just never agree with my hate it them.
Speaker 1:I hate it, I don't, I don't know, because you're hated sir, you're just more animated about it.
Speaker 2:I'm just kind of like take it or leave it. Go watch the tgl lip and you'll hate it, I'm telling you that we're calling it the tgl lip from now, that's what it is. It's horrible, but no, I saw uh here in a town close to us. You can guess which one they were protesting a lot of different things, and one of them was protesting elon and it was like. Well, we didn't vote for him. Don't you realize half the people in government you didn't vote for?
Speaker 1:Well, so the people that they appoint you didn't vote for them. Like several of the guys that are currently up for their appointments, that they're going through Congress and they're going through Senate and having all these meetings. You may have technically voted for the people that are going to confirm or deny him, but you're not voting for those people Exactly, and we don't get into politics a lot and I'm I we might touch it a little bit.
Speaker 1:We're probably gonna do a little bit more, just because it's we will. It's getting ridiculous. It is ridiculous. That's what I was going to say. I don't get into much of a topic, that's. I'm not going to sit here and talk a ton on, you know, policy and those things. But when you've got something as ridiculous and I'll say absolutely ridiculous as having to make a policy to keep women in women's sports, it blows my mind.
Speaker 2:That's crazy and that's what I was going to say, like it blows my mind. I don't get into a lot of politics, but crazy is crazy, exactly, and I'm going to call crazy out. I don't care, I don't care which side you're on what you're doing Crazy, crazy, and so that's. I'm with you on that. Um, I saw the uh.
Speaker 1:She had a list of things she was calling out, you know, let's spend money on this and on this. So that's the thing is, there's been some interesting things that the president's done already, some things that are common sense, that it makes no sense to me we have to make a bill for, you know, the whole. Well, there's only two genders. Like federally, they're only going to recognize two. Federally, they're only going to recognize two. Like this whole diluted thing of, well, gender and sexual orientation, that's not a real thing. No, like it's just not.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, like I was told out there on things, and and listen, we're just gonna give, we're gonna put it all out there right now we're gonna go with it because I was told what five years ago to follow the science.
Speaker 1:So I mean, come on now, hang on, hang on. That leads us to some, to some.
Speaker 2:My body, my choice that leads us to a lot of things, but no it I.
Speaker 1:I agree with you. It's well. The science says you need to get this shot because this is a really, really bad sickness. The sickness was bad, yeah, it was bad across the entire world. Yeah, but you studied that thing for about two weeks and you want me to put in my body? I don't think I can no, it's just too questionable.
Speaker 2:No, I mean I about everybody, I know had covet at some point and got sick multiple times at this point. Um, but you know, that. That's a whole other topic, obviously.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean again, I I don't go into that a whole lot because I really just don't know enough about it to to tell you, to be honest, like I have my my views on things, but I think there's, with anything major that we see, it's what's happening in the background. It's all the contradiction. Yeah, because I've always said one week this, one week that, yeah with with everything.
Speaker 2:American people want to follow what they're told to help the better good of everybody, like we really do. But we all do well. But when it's just back and forth and you don't know what's right and like, come on, just just tell us the truth and we'll do what's best like I'm trying to teach my nine-year-old right now, because he's very much like me.
Speaker 1:He he gets really frustrated and upset at times when he's playing a game and somebody doesn't follow the rules. He is a rule follower. Yep, he gets that from me. I'm very much like I'm gonna follow the rules. You're a real follower until they get to the point that it's like what do you mean? Mean Like that, that doesn't like I will follow rules. And then there gets to a point where it's like you got to explain that one to me. I'm not just going to blindly See.
Speaker 2:I thought rules were made to be broken.
Speaker 1:Certain certain ones, but there's a lot of things that I'm like it doesn't affect me to be a rule, that I just don't really care, but so I just kind of naturally do it.
Speaker 2:It affect me to be a rule that I just don't really care, but so I just kind of naturally do it. It's just naturally, I'm good with it. I hear this on a show I listen to all the time. Uh, a rule is not a rule without a punishment this is true. So there's lots of rules out there that say you gotta do this, you gotta do that.
Speaker 1:But well, if you do a lot of people that say you know, like with laws, well, it's not illegal unless you get caught. And I mean. Well, I don't necessarily agree with that, but I see the mindset behind what you're saying with it. I just don't feel like that works on everything.
Speaker 2:I guess it's still illegal, correct, correct.
Speaker 1:You're just not getting the punishment of it.
Speaker 2:You didn't get the punishment, you didn't get caught, so but there's some rules.
Speaker 1:Some of these big guys are getting caught right now.
Speaker 1:So, we'll wait and see what happens with those. But there, see what happens with those. But there's some rules that you know. There really isn't a punishment for no. It's like no, no, I agree with that. But I will say this one thing I am very interested and I actually went and looked it up just a couple days ago. Um, I want to say it was on my birthday. Um, trump signed a thing to declassify about jfk, about mlk, um, there's something else on there I'm forgetting. But I was like, oh yeah, so when is that going to happen? Because I'm curious about it, I am too. So, per the order, it's within 45 days, okay, so I'm like, alright, I knew there'd be a time.
Speaker 2:But are we still going to get all the details?
Speaker 1:I don't believe that at all. I don't either. I believe there's still going to be plenty of redacted stuff because they're going to say, well, national security, because it's the easiest thing to say. Yeah, but I'm hoping that we get something.
Speaker 2:I don't want to start here, but what are we listening to at the moment?
Speaker 1:Pink Floyd.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, sorry guys, I didn't mean to.
Speaker 1:There's something in the background I'm like. In the world is this I got to skip this one, because I really. Oh, here we go.
Speaker 2:Okay, sorry, you can continue. No, that's okay. I was just like what in the world?
Speaker 1:Because that's what's going to happen. We're probably all ADHD at this point in this world, with all the crap we eat and everything we spent 30 minutes going over.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, we was into. Well, at the end we was into what Rod Stewart Talking about. We only talked about Rod.
Speaker 1:Stewart, because there's a certain someone here, not me, that his mom was really into some Rod.
Speaker 2:Stewart, she was, and that's how I know Rod.
Speaker 1:Stewart and.
Speaker 2:I thought it was pretty good as a kid too.
Speaker 1:But I will say that does lead me into my next question.
Speaker 2:Okay, I didn't mean to cut you off your own, no, no, that's okay.
Speaker 1:Because I could go there, but it's really just more like I'm curious to see what happens with that Like happens with that? Like I want to see in 45 days, like what, what information we're actually going to get. Yeah, because, especially like you start talking not that there's not conspiracy around martin luther king, there's way more I feel like around jfk like yeah, there is what actually happened because there's a lot of like oh, we really think it's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we really think it's whatever. Can we get the truth about the moon landing?
Speaker 1:come on, let's do that listen I feel like we already all know it's just there's a few people that still argue I just want somebody to prove it I just I have a hard time with the moon landing. Before we make the switch on our next topic. Again, you know I'm a rule follower, so there's still a lot of things that like I just don't care, I just let let it be that.
Speaker 1:But I'm gonna start calling you the rule follower but when you get into something like the moon landing and you say, well, we lost the technology to get there, that makes no sense to me.
Speaker 2:You know, as a kid I never questioned it Like you.
Speaker 1:was just taught that in school as a kid, we were basically taught not to question things. Isn't that what school is, in a way? But again, the victor controls the history yeah the winner controls it.
Speaker 1:So there's probably so many things throughout history that we don't really know 100 the truth. We know one side of the story, but I tell my kids, hey, sorry, there's three sides of every story. Yeah, yours, theirs, and somewhere in the middle is the truth. The truth. It may it may be much more towards your side, it may be much more towards their side, but somewhere in that middle ground is the truth. The truth. It may be much more towards your side, it may be much more towards their side, but somewhere in that middle ground is the truth.
Speaker 2:That's where, even if they told us about the moon- or MLK JFK. Whatever they're going to put out, I don't know if I'm going to 100% believe it still Well if they come out and tell me to go to the moon. But thanks for confirming we are, we, we know that's a little different, but I don't expect them to ever come out and say that.
Speaker 2:I expect them to come out and say, yeah, there's our loud truck going by he's a muffler um, I expect them to come out and say something like well, we did and we didn't actually use technology here. We did, we didn't actually get video, yeah we faked the video, but we were there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly that.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm not going to say and so I kind of think that's what's going to happen with the other things. And, by the way, I think we should just do something with our listeners. Let's just raise some money and get that man a muffler.
Speaker 1:We've got to figure out who he is. We're going to do a GoFundMe. We're going. When I was young, I wanted my truck to be loud.
Speaker 2:I had a motorcycle back in the day.
Speaker 1:I wanted it to be loud, like it was like yeah, fast and loud, like don't get me wrong Like I'm big into cars, love cars, like that's something I'm still very much into. A fast car should be loud, if no.
Speaker 2:I'm with you there. I don't know, but the big beefy trucks they can kind of be loud, but have you seen that truck? But it's old, it's like an old school, you know, I don't know, it's what they would classify as a POS.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, Like I hate to say that, but that's what most people would classify that as it belongs in the junkyard. I don't know, it's pretty rough, but it's not one of those that you're like oh man, that's one of those classic old Fords, that's one of those that a couple more days of rust and it's falling apart.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you can drive that thing around on the farm still, you know, and haul some hay in it Until the bed falls off and you can't put any hay in it anymore. All right, it's pretty rough. Hey you know if you're listening. Whoever you are, I like the truck. Stop by, let's check it out.
Speaker 1:Drive by somewhere else.
Speaker 2:We always comment on it because it's so loud in the background, because what if he doesn't drive by?
Speaker 1:and we're going to be like where is he at? I hope nothing happened to him. Yeah, he finally got a job. He had to go to bed early. Oh my gosh, you're just throwing shots at this man.
Speaker 2:You don't even know this man.
Speaker 1:No, that's probably like figure out who it is, and I'm like, I'm probably like, oh yeah, I know him yeah I'm sure I do probably so, but and then it'll be a very different story.
Speaker 2:But until then we can kind of pretend it's whatever we want and just make the story, I guess, whatever you want to do.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, back to the moon landing. How we got stuck on moon landing for a bit I thought we was going to music, so we are very soon, because you know we're we're back at some tom petty for like yeah so with that we go into music. My question, and but I thought, was I'm I'm so confused at the moment. I thought you said moon landing we were going to moon landing, and then you hit music, and tom petty made me think of where I was going okay so I want to make that switch I didn't know I could change conversations that quick.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm learning, because if I get on the moon landing we might be there a while and I'm afraid to really go down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 2:Um, maybe another day, you know um, for to be a rule follower. You got some conspiracy theories out there that you kind of don't get me started.
Speaker 1:I know we'll be here. You wind me up on that.
Speaker 2:We're gonna have a five-hour podcast I'll be over here like yeah, uh-huh yeah, some stuff the cia is declassified.
Speaker 1:I mean we'll get into some deep stuff. You don't want to go there right now.
Speaker 2:Some of those get way too deep for me.
Speaker 1:So there's some very crazy out there ones. I don't really go much with those, but there's a lot that I'm like it's too borderline for us to just be like it. 100% was this.
Speaker 2:Like there's just too much, that's like that's a's a little questionable. Well, maybe when it's a little slower I'll just get you going and I'll just sit back and be like all right, that may be our second podcast, that it's just.
Speaker 1:Hey, come listen to tyler talk about conspiracy while david says uh-huh, because that's what.
Speaker 2:That's what that would be for the most part. So you're like, really like some of them I get behind, so oh, yeah, and there's some like even I'll make comment on that.
Speaker 1:I'm like I can't get with that one. It's just too much.
Speaker 2:A lot of them. I can agree something's weird. But I can't go to the extent that they say what it might be and I'm like, no, I mean yeah.
Speaker 1:You question the weirdness but you can't go here. There's some people that they automatically go as far as they possibly can with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like my mind doesn't naturally do that.
Speaker 2:Like I want to get on flat earth stuff and you know yeah but that's.
Speaker 1:I feel like that's been disproved too much. Not to the crazy people. Yeah, some flat earthers were trying to confirm their theory and they confirmed they were wrong.
Speaker 2:Oh, I've seen stuff like that.
Speaker 1:I think it's so funny With some things that I'm like God man, you just have to feel dumb in that point. But again, that's, that's science. At some point, like when you have a hypothesis and you're wrong, you kind of then just have to go where it takes you.
Speaker 2:Everything starts off as yeah. How about this? Why don't we?
Speaker 1:go to Galileo that the earth was the center of the, the but you know what brings everybody together? Music. You just really want to get back to it.
Speaker 2:You're trying to really see how quick I could change the topic again.
Speaker 1:Not that quick, I'm still there. Um so my music question.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We. We've listed a bunch of music so far tonight.
Speaker 1:We're I, we're, I don't know 30 minutes into this 54 hour, we're gonna have to put together some of the beforehand stuff that we thought, because it'd be a whole nother episode, oh gosh, things we talked about it would be hard to follow because it's all over the place in the podcast so my question we've and we've kind of talked about this a little bit before both of us kind of naturally gravitate towards that 90s and early 2000s, because that's just the age that we were, you know, for you, I mean, you were starting to drive what early 2000s?
Speaker 2:so when you think of this late, so if you're thinking of, like when you had control of the radio or you had control, what you're really doing, music was such a big part of my childhood, even as a young kid, like I felt, like I was always listening music, whether it was on a radio, a cassette tape my parents had, or for young listeners go look up what that is. Yeah exactly right. Then we went to cds after that.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you know what that is either um you you know, I felt like in the car the radio was on, or or get home from school, when you turn on either some kind of music videos Whether it's CMT and you listen to country music or TRL.
Speaker 1:It's so weird now because everything's streaming. Everything is. We've gone away from. Now. You're using whatever you have, whether it's an iPhone or whatever smartphone, and you're streaming something from there. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:I very seldom turn a radio on in the car. I couldn't do the last time I have if I do, it's going to be like one of the christian stations or something, right, uh, like was it?
Speaker 1:like I just I don't turn the radio on because then I have to listen to commercials oh, and then I'm like all right now I'm ruined, like I so used to spotify, where it's just well, see, I was that way, your disposal.
Speaker 2:I'm the same way with music. I was with the tv when a commercial come come on.
Speaker 1:I'm changing it, yeah, switching the channel. So.
Speaker 2:I watch everything, everything I record. I skip commercials, even sitcoms I want to watch.
Speaker 1:Well, my brother used to torture me when he was driving and obviously you know he's the older brother so he had to take me, you know, pick me up from school, different stuff so he'd torture me. He had a little uh, honda prelude, like early 2000s honda prelude time. Um, and we're both large fellas. Obviously we're not as big then as we are now, um, you know, height wise, but you know we've never been little. So I mean we you know you're in that car he had six presets of the radio and he had six country stations saved.
Speaker 1:That's it so if you know anything about me. I'm not a country music fan. I've just never been able to get around because you don't know what's good here we go again. All right, we've got good music playing, not this current song, we've got good music playing. This is good music.
Speaker 2:This is good music, like I can listen to. A little bit of everything, uh, except new stuff we've had that conversation a lot of the new stuff I don't listen to. So is Brad a country music fan at all? Or just to torture you? I don't know.
Speaker 1:So he was. Okay, he was. I couldn't really begin to tell you what his true music taste is now.
Speaker 2:But that was probably 90s country right, kind of that time frame. Oh yeah. Well, 90s and 2000s yeah, that's the good stuff.
Speaker 1:But Brad was always like, he loved Sinatra, he loved.
Speaker 2:Dean Martin.
Speaker 1:He loved some of the old stuff, but we liked a lot of the same music for the most part.
Speaker 2:Right now I'm being Welcome to the Jungle. Right, little Guns N' Roses, I can't do that because when I played football in high school, the arrival across town was the Jaguars and they called their place the Jungle.
Speaker 1:We had to hear this. It was north, right yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay. So every time I went there, we had to hear this song, even though the song was a good song.
Speaker 1:Rosman oh, did they do the same thing. Oh, did they do the same thing? Okay, that was what they did. Yeah, your opinion. You're probably gonna be wrong, but in your opinion I am never wrong. In your opinion, I thought we've established greatest era of music I you know it's kind of hard to be put on the spot that way. I know it is because I'm just curious kind of where you naturally go to so what do you like?
Speaker 2:define a uh an era, I guess 60s, 70s I'm going by year.
Speaker 1:Okay, not necessarily by genre, because genres have changed very much.
Speaker 2:It talked to me because I'm I'm sure I'm going to say 90s, because I know 90s more but. I loved a lot of the stuff you know 70s, 80s, the, because my parents was a lot of that. True, with the, um, kind of do you call it southern rock or I don't know what you call it the 70s, 80s rock, what you call.
Speaker 1:Today, everything has a category and subcategory and so, like it's just, it's really hard to define.
Speaker 2:We've been listening to a lot of stuff tonight and it's all so good. But because I wasn't alive in the time period, I don't know everything. Like I know the 90s, like I know every genre of the 90s, from true, from rap to rock to you know country and and everything in between. You know r&b was big in the 90s so I kind of know all that um, I can tell you some bluegrass stuff. I can tell you, you know, but it's all from that 90s, you know, getting into 2000s a little bit right so I'm gonna say 90s but that.
Speaker 2:But there's some really good stuff before that too.
Speaker 1:So after it I don't kind of get it for me, but I get reminded a lot of some music that I kind of forget about. But I'm I'm the same way, kind of minus country. I can listen to a little bit of everything, um, and even then like there's some country. I mean, obviously my wife loves country music, so anytime we're like around you guys, if you've got stuff like there's a lot of country music played and I can deal with it Like it's not, like, oh, my gosh, I need to go.
Speaker 2:I'm playing country music every time I'm around you.
Speaker 1:No, I will turn it off.
Speaker 2:I'm also not afraid to do that Nope, nope, but and again, especially like some of it's okay music, but it doesn't remind me at all of 90s country.
Speaker 1:But for me, if I'm going to go kind of greatest era, just kind of overall, I feel like it's got to be the 80s. I said there's some good stuff there and that's kind of weird. There's some 80s music you listen to and you're like this sucks, just the sound, it's just not good. So I brought up a list and it's telling me top five overall artists, with some honorable mentions from those eras.
Speaker 2:See, I like country music and I don't really know much about country in the 80s. There's some there that was decent.
Speaker 1:I don't know that that was like. Obviously country's always been popular, so I'm not saying that, like George Jones and You're asking the wrong person. I know you don't know. I mean you just asked me yeah, wasn't it like Sure it was?
Speaker 2:Whoever it was it was kind of some of those guys. Keith Whitley Keith Whitley's really good, by the way. I couldn't tell you who that is.
Speaker 1:Oh, you'd to, but okay, so. So, like you said, 90s, and I'm just going to read per this, the top five and some of the honorable mentions number one, mariah carey, number two, nirvana, then janet jackson, tupac, tlc. That's the top five they've lost their mind so that is um. This is saying the top five definitive. So I don't know what they're really truly considering that I mean, that would obviously wouldn't be my top five of the nineties, but that's just what they're saying.
Speaker 1:I mean, they were good, but then it goes into boys. I'm in biggie radio head green day. Alison chains.
Speaker 2:Oh, this is a good song we had coming on right here. Maroon five right the greatest hits of all time list, that's hard to.
Speaker 1:It's too new for me to consider it yet.
Speaker 2:It might not be that song, but Maroon 5 was good.
Speaker 1:Into some Led Zeppelin. So then, when I go into the 80s, though, the 5 list automatically blows the 90s out of the water.
Speaker 1:Michael Jackson, madonna, prince, bruce Springsteen can't read Bruce Springsteen, bon Jovi, Like the five versus five it's not even. I'll be honest with you, I don't love either five. So I don't necessarily love either five. But the difference for me is like there are so many bands in the time and I feel like the 90s we had some bands we already started to kind of make that switch to individual artists and I think I just prefer bands as an overall. So that's why I think I flocked to like a lot of the rock in the 90s.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all the bands went to rock and punk were rock but like a lot of those other people already starting to split, yeah, so but that's when I think of 80s and 70s.
Speaker 2:I love the bands.
Speaker 1:It's just like the beat to it and it was just more kind of fun in a way it's like we talked about.
Speaker 2:You're just kind of chilling mellow Hanging out yeah. But yet it's still kind of rock, so I can get with it I mean it's stuff that I can still listen to today.
Speaker 1:Well, so, obviously, like my mom, one of her favorite groups of all time is the Eagles.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So she loved music like that. So growing up in the car you know we listened to a bunch of 70s music, but you know that was her high school time, so it's like we're listening to music that was popular for her then.
Speaker 2:So like I kind of got used to it, but it was never one that I was like, oh, this sucks, like it was all pretty good music. That's kind of funny, though, because when I get in the car with with my daughter right, I've got her listening to 90s stuff. Yeah, you know, her big thing that she got on forever was jim blossoms. Like she'd loved two, three songs of jim blossoms and just wanted to listen to it all the time, which it's a band that a lot of people don't think about, but but they had a few big hits. Now, I don't think they had a ton that was really good, but what they had really good was good, I mean, it makes sense, you kind of pass stuff on to your kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, noah, likes music. My oldest and there was a day we were in the car and I had a playlist going. It was like 2000s rock and he heard uh, imagine dragons.
Speaker 1:That's now his favorite I can say I bet he loved him he because it was like the beat to it and just it was fun and he really liked it. And so he every time he gets in the car daddy, can we listen to that? And I'm like, well, I can't tell you no, yeah, like you're liking the music that I like, so we're gonna go to it.
Speaker 2:We're talking about the 70s and 80s and rock and stuff that we like, whether it's you know, journey led zeppelin we did listen some some journey earlier and not even just don't stop believing.
Speaker 1:But just journey is just good.
Speaker 2:They're so talented um, leonard skinner, you know, like I said back back then, and um, but is that music gonna get lost now because I don't know that'm going to get in the car and play that for my daughter, even though I enjoyed it. It comes from our parents, is why we enjoy it more than anything.
Speaker 1:It's surprising to see this on the list. I'm trying to listen and hear what this is. You'll know.
Speaker 2:So is this music going to get lost because we're not going to pass it on to our kids?
Speaker 1:But I will listen to this with my kid Because listen to this with my kid because I like, lyrically, it's not always the best, because you know sex, drugs, rock and roll, like it wasn't always the greatest, but there's a lot of it that I don't feel like was as suggestive. Now, don't wrong, there's plenty of suggestive stuff. There's a lot that didn't feel like it was as suggestive as kind of modern music. So I'm like, I feel like it's a little easier to listen to with my kids.
Speaker 1:Um, like my, my youngest, he likes anything that's got like a fun beat yeah so they you know we've been listening to the madagascar um soundtrack because, like it had a bunch of fun beat songs, anything from the movies usually got some I'm gonna say my fun stuff so that's what we've been listening to one loves the Sing movies okay yep, I've seen the first one it came on TV or something.
Speaker 2:I've watched it. They're actually both pretty good, especially if you like music, I guess.
Speaker 1:But speaking of that because you know, we get to watch a bunch of cartoons, whether we want to or not. We want to or not, we get to watch a bunch.
Speaker 2:I mean to be honest with you, my house, it goes to planets and everything else States, but not your kids' favorite.
Speaker 1:What's your favorite that your kids watch?
Speaker 2:So it's got to be something they watch now.
Speaker 1:So a cartoon or a show that is a kid's show that you can sit there and it's not. You're not like just completely tuning it out.
Speaker 2:I can get into a lot of that stuff. To be honest with you, with my daughter we watched a lot of the Disney shows as she was getting older and I still watch some of those. There's one called Henry Danger. That's like a it's not a cartoon.
Speaker 1:Is that the superhero one or something? It is. Yeah, we actually watched the movie. Yeah, that annoyed me.
Speaker 2:I didn't like it yeah, we actually watched the movie. I didn't like it so I mean I can get into like that. We watched. Uh, there was one that had music in it, um, the cat noir stuff and and ladybug and all that. We watched those with her.
Speaker 1:But uh, I can remember when she used to watch that a bunch because it was just a little bit old for my oldest at the time and it always kind of scared him a little bit.
Speaker 1:I can remember that he never liked it. Um, so for us it's Bluey. We love some Bluey Because both my kids like it. It's easy to watch, it's kind of funny. But I will say here recently and this has been going on for a bit now my little one, he's after my heart Because we are watching the original Power Rangers, Like the OG, first one that America got Mm-hmm man, is it dated?
Speaker 1:I'd like to go back and watch some of that, but I remember playing that on Playground, so it's hard because it brings back so many memories, mm-hmm, because I can remember waking up early on a Saturday morning, going to sit down in front of the tv to watch it like it was yeah it just brought back so many memories like watching that and then it's not very good.
Speaker 2:Saturday morning would come on too like don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1:It's not very good, but it has so many memory, so much nostalgia and memories behind it. It's like I love it and he he's. I'll be honest, he's probably a little young for it, but he thinks he's a blue power ranger all the time.
Speaker 2:So it's like there's much worse he could be watching. I remember recess in elementary school, everybody's a Power Ranger and you're like oh, I'm the white Power Ranger, I'm the blue Power Ranger, oh especially when the green Power Ranger came out and he was evil and then turned into the white one later.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was everybody. Everybody argued over that, because if you weren't him, you were the red one. Oh, you're just a loser. Power Rangers the guys that were just in the background. But for Reed, my youngest, he is huge into. His favorite color is blue, so for him, he is the blue Power. Ranger. I mean, if he's playing something, he will tell you. I'm a blue Power Ranger. But he also watches some of the newer ones and they're hard to watch. The others have nostalgia, so the new ones are tough Well.
Speaker 2:I say we? My wife here recently, very recently, has got our boys watching Tom and Jerry. I love some Tom and Jerry and they love it. They will sit there and crack up.
Speaker 1:Do your kids like Grizzly and Lemmings? I don't know what that is. It is basically a Canadian version of Tom and Jerry.
Speaker 2:I've never seen it. It's hilarious. I'll have to check it out.
Speaker 1:It's very similar. It's just kind of the goofy like chasing each other. Basically they're fighting over Nutella like some off-brand Okay, but it's really funny Like that sounds dumb.
Speaker 2:You just made that sound interesting.
Speaker 1:I know, but like it's actually Can't wait to watch that. Like there's a bunch of lemmings and always some weird thing happening.
Speaker 2:One of my favorites growing up was Roadrunner, and so I actually put that on today a little bit.
Speaker 1:Wile E Coyote and Roadrunner.
Speaker 2:Yep, like in these cartoons, especially that one, there's like no words or anything but it was funny, nobody cared.
Speaker 1:No, like we would sit there and watch that forever.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to think what other like the new stuff that we watch, because for us it's like Bluey and Peppa Pig and they're both okay. We don't watch Peppa.
Speaker 1:We're into Bluey. Like I said, reed watches some Power Rangers outside of that. Like Noah likes to watch some Pokemon stuff. He's, at that age, kind of into that, but they're kind of similar. They like.
Speaker 2:Like noah loves to watch learning things yeah, and that's always at my house, like that's that's kind of more what he's into than anything like if he gets his mindset on something he's gonna go learn about it my three-year-old will sit on the couch and have a video playing showing countries all around the world, and it's talking about their per capita dollars and he's like, I'm like what countries I've never even heard of. And he's sitting there singing and dancing.
Speaker 2:He's gonna be doing all kinds of money stuff when he grows up yeah, they would prefer to get on like a kid's youtube, or or sometimes they get on actual youtube if we control what they're watching, um, and they'll just pick random stuff like that.
Speaker 1:So I'm sure you probably know this song, but for me I hear this song and immediately think Guardians of the Galaxy.
Speaker 2:I don't know what that is Marvel.
Speaker 1:I know you don't watch any of that stuff, but it's just like. That's like country music to you, no, but it's this. So Guardians of the Galaxy he's so.
Speaker 2:So you gotta tell about what the song is though at least uh, this is, come and get your love okay, um, but if you've seen that movie like it.
Speaker 1:Just that movie's full of the 70s and 80s music, so it just fits. So because it's very kind of all over time or whatever, but that's what I think of when I I think of this now.
Speaker 2:I can also remember being in the car as a kid, mom listening music has such a connection to everything it does we was talking earlier how you remember music in certain commercials and I don't remember the product, but I remember the song in the commercial right and then it's tied to movies but are they?
Speaker 1:are they doing themselves a favor by doing that?
Speaker 2:no, because I don't remember.
Speaker 1:If I remember the song, but I don't remember the product like is that really helping?
Speaker 2:I mean maybe when it was, when the commercial was like airing and we actually watch commercials. Maybe the song comes my head and that product we don't really watch commercials at this point no, so we're kind of over it at this point, years later, that that might be why I don't remember in the moment it might work, or maybe it used to work when, like you said, when we actually listened to commercials watched them.
Speaker 1:Maybe I think what always was easier for me was like if you had a good jingle, like yeah, I mean even even as one as dumb as the old uh jg wentworth commercials like yep, there was a comedian that did a thing that he was talking about, like bet you, everybody knows this and he sings it. And then everybody finishes and it's like didn't even know that. You remembered that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was probably on while you're watching jerry springer probably so it was one of those type one of those type commercials in between all those like just terrible tv shows that were on but there was a lot of commercials like that that you remembered and you kind of had to watch the commercial.
Speaker 1:You didn't get to fast forward well, like that and like the general commercials, especially once they start putting like shack on there, like yeah, you remember those, which is weird. For some reason, insurance companies have very memorable either commercials or jingles or something, whether it's geico and their gecko or yeah, they had the caveman before that.
Speaker 2:And like I got the caveman, exactly that might have offended some people or something. Maybe offended cave people, I don't know they're, you know since there's so many of them. I saw today brian actually shared on uh, not amused facebook.
Speaker 1:If you don't know, check it out uh, the e-trade baby yeah, yeah I love that you trade commercials talking about all the Super Bowl commercials and stuff. That's the one time I think I get excited about commercials. Oh, I'll randomly Because there's so many People hold on all year to put a new commercial out for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:They pay millions for those spots, you know my wife or somebody will say something to me and I'll walk through the house and go apparently this is frowned upon in this establishment.
Speaker 1:Yes, riding the dog like a horse and you know some of those E-Trade commercials are great Like, of course you use a talking baby. People notice it, they remember it. It's just really funny.
Speaker 2:But it was the lines that was with it. And then I remember the Doritos commercials with the little boy.
Speaker 1:Don't touch my mama.
Speaker 2:Don't touch my Doritos. I knew where you were going with that, just by saying it.
Speaker 1:Those are so good. There's a ton of really good horses. Everybody remembers the big Clydesdales for Budweiser, which I don't drink, no, but it's still so recognizable, like if I see one of those out, I think of that. Oh yeah, like just naturally you're like oh yeah, those are from that, or like a polar class that horse, that's a budweiser polar bear.
Speaker 1:Polar bear, coca-cola. There you go. Yeah, exactly, it's just something that you 100 just attach. Whether it fit, like, how does a polar bear fit coca-cola, we don't know. But that's where our minds go. Ice cold coke that's the only thing I can come up with.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but like trying to make you think cold, maybe you know. I saw a thing, um, it was kind of interesting to me. They were saying when you have a coke machine sitting somewhere and then you add a pepsi machine next to it, I saw, did you see that?
Speaker 2:and they were talking about how yeah you would think like they're going to split sales now and. But they say when? When you have a coke machine sitting there, you're deciding do I want a coke or not? And so sometimes you don't buy one. When you have a coke and a pepsi machine, you're deciding do I want a Coke or not? And so sometimes you don't buy one. When you have a Coke and a Pepsi machine there, you're deciding do I want a Coke or a Pepsi?
Speaker 1:Right, you never think I don't want one at all. You're not thinking, do I want something or not?
Speaker 2:I'm thinking which one do I want? And so when you think about it, it's almost saying our minds are so simple, we can't have more than two.
Speaker 1:Well, but that's part of what's wrong with a lot of people is you have too many choices in a lot of situations. I agree Like you have too many options.
Speaker 2:You know how many times we can't decide what we're going to eat for dinner if we're eating out. Don't get me started on my wife.
Speaker 1:I don't know, just whatever. And then you name a hundred and there's never a right answer. I'm going to start doing the one commercial video going to Well, speaking of that, because you said Coke and Pepsi and I didn't even have this on the list. But which one? That's a debated thing. That's a debated thing.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be honest with you. I have said Pepsi forever. Okay, the past six months I will randomly crave a Coke. It's not something I bring in the house very often.
Speaker 1:I'm a dr pepper drinker, correct, I know that. So that's why I didn't ask you soda overall? Yeah, because like when you get down to just like cola, like just kind of a generic cola, it's either pepsi or coke I was always pepsi here.
Speaker 2:lately I've been kind of shifting to coke a little bit, if I, if I'm not drinking a Dr Pepper.
Speaker 1:So what's really weird to me is, especially in the South, they're like, well, pepsi's the drink of the South. The Coca-Cola headquarters are in Atlanta, I know. So it's like, okay, which one's truly the drink of the South For me, I'm going to pick Pepsi every time, and I couldn't exactly tell you why. I wouldn't drink either now, yeah, so I'm I'm not super picky on it.
Speaker 2:Mcdonald's, for whatever reason, does have really good coke. I don't know why it's better um, but it is.
Speaker 1:I could be wrong. This is one of those weird stats or weird information things that I just feel like. I know mcdonald's coke is different than every other coke. It's good they they apparently still have a contract of an old, okay version. Well, that makes sense. So because, yeah, their, but their coke doesn't taste like coke. You go get the store, so it's very different.
Speaker 2:We went to um somewhere and got. We was on our way home and we went through a drive that was kind of traveling off somewhere and I don't know if it was McDonald's or what, and I got a Coke and it was pretty good and I just didn't have enough of it or something I think it was, and I was like, oh man, I really want a Coke. I'm going to swing over here in the gas station and have a Coke.
Speaker 1:It was nowhere near the same. Those don't A McDonald's Coke. To me is you. If you say Coke, pepsi or McDonald's Coke, that feels like a completely different drink, because if you go to the store and buy a Coke or buy a Pepsi, you're not buying what you're getting from there.
Speaker 2:I think it tastes different too between a can or bottle or fountain drink. Obviously, I love fountain drinks are way better than any of them, I think 100%.
Speaker 1:So to me, all right. Right, we'll take out fountain drink, because fountain drinks to me is different, because each place can then kind of mix it different depending on what you know, their, their settings on their machines. Are you naturally leaning towards a bottle or a can bottle? Why I like what? What is your signification, so I can tell you for me I go to a bottle because there's more. Well, I think Because to me, like, if I'm going to spend what these cost nowadays, I'm just like I'm going to get more for my money, I guess.
Speaker 2:So I used to think, okay, if I have a bottle, I can drink half of them, but they'll live back on.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And I'll do that if I'm out throughout the day, whatever.
Speaker 1:Typically, I don't I drink it. I'm going to finish it.
Speaker 2:But if I like at home, I'll have some. I'll get the smaller bottles of like Dr Pepper and if I only drink like half of it and put it in the fridge the next day, it tastes horrible, it's flat. I will not drink it, but that I feel like touching it. It's nasty, but I think they taste better. In the bottle In the bottle and I have this weird thing. Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, here we go. Yes, you're weird, I'm aware of this. So what's the weird thing?
Speaker 2:I'm not a germaphobe, but I wash my hands a lot.
Speaker 2:You're a germapho, but a lot of things, yes, okay, that can you have a can sitting there right now, the top of that can, or you put your mouth, you'd have no idea where that's been, what's been on it Nothing. And it's been exposed ever since it was manufactured, correct. That's weird to me. Like it's, it could be sitting in a soda machine, it could have a rat running across it, but you don't know so here's the thing the chemicals in that soda that I'm drinking are way worse than what I'm putting my mouth on.
Speaker 2:I can promise you I mean possibly, but I still don't want to put my mouth on that, and I will never get a canned soda that I don't at least take my shirt or something, wipe off the top of it if I've got water your shirt's doing so much. Listen, my shirt's a whole lot cleaner than that. Because I'm a germaphobe, I'm telling you my shirt's cleaner, I'm changing it.
Speaker 1:So the thing for me I usually will buy a bottle because, like I said, there's more in it, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Because when I start drinking something like, too, you buy the largest one. Um, that's just different. I just love ice cream. That's a whole different being fat love an ice cream.
Speaker 1:That's a dangerous thing. I didn't call you fat, I did, I was. I wasn't saying you did. I'll be like. I know you like ice cream. I love that's best. Best dessert for me is me ice cream. That's what I'm naturally gonna pick. Just gotta mix cake with it.
Speaker 2:No, that's, that ruins it um no, no, no, I don't want them separate, I want them like mixed in the bowl so for me, I naturally will go buy a Bottle because there's more.
Speaker 1:I like the taste of a can better Because it's stronger.
Speaker 2:It's because you're getting all that metal in there.
Speaker 1:No, I actually learned why it's the sun.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:The way that it does in the plastic. They almost, it's almost like a different drink, because the light is constantly changing it. The heat is changing it.
Speaker 2:There's so many differences to it. We've seen bottles we put in our vending machine at the range. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, look at them right now.
Speaker 2:They are not the same. The colors change. We've had cans explode in the sun.
Speaker 1:But a can. To me, the taste is always the same, it's always consistent, because I've went to a store knowing I like Pepsi and I'm going to pick a Pepsi over a Coke. But I'll get it and it doesn't taste right.
Speaker 2:Do they have cans in a convenience store anymore, like in the coolers Some?
Speaker 1:Some they're usually the tall can. Okay, they have some of those, and not every store, but most of them it's usually just a very small selection. I never look for cans. It's a very small selection.
Speaker 2:I get cans at like Walmart. They have the vending machine outside. That's cheap. Oh yeah, that's a super cheap vending machine. It's like a dollar or something, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's sad to say, because a can used to be 50 cents. We're talking, you know. Hey, look how old we are, you know. Then I'll make fun of my dad who's like. I remember when milk was a nickel, like you didn't buy milk, you had a cow, you didn't have to worry about it they used to take 50 cents and get a soda pop and a candy bar and a pack of chips.
Speaker 2:Soda pop where? Who are you? No, when you're talking about back in the day, it was soda pop that's what they called it.
Speaker 1:That's probably more sody pop than anything pop.
Speaker 2:Probably put the the y on you know that's um, you know the north and and where you know I'm from, in kentucky, lived for so many years. It was pop, pop, pop, pop and but what was it in georgia?
Speaker 1:because y'all were there for a while it was soda okay. And because amanda says both, she's back and forth yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, when I was, when I was a kid, it was soda, and then we moved there and it kind of became pop and back here and I like saying soda again. To be honest with you, I don't really like pop. That just sounds weird to me Okay.
Speaker 1:So there's soda and there's pop. What do you think about those people that call everything Coke Weirdos?
Speaker 2:no-transcript. Say I want a pepsi, you want a pepsi, maybe, but the coke yeah. I can't do that.
Speaker 1:That's weird to me if I'm saying I want a coke, you need to hand me the red can coke. Exactly yeah, like that. That's what I'm expecting.
Speaker 2:I say soda anymore. Pop may slip in every now and then, just from kentucky but yeah, for the most part.
Speaker 1:Amanda switched fully to soda. Yeah, she there for a long time it was, but it wasn't that hard because we wasn't you had both. Yeah, you didn't we kind of heard both.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get that, I do get that now my wife still says pop a lot of times. I don't know if if I'll ever get a transition.
Speaker 1:I'll make fun of her forever for a lot of things she says, because it's just randomly the hick comes out, because typically she's not super country with her speak.
Speaker 2:She's not really hick, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Oh, some stuff is. Is it hick?
Speaker 2:Some stuff gets hick. See, I think she gets hicks with certain words. Oh, I make fun of her too, yeah that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Listen, I'm equal opportunity, haley has this, my wife Haley.
Speaker 2:she has words, she says a certain way, but I don't know if it's hick, I don't know what the term is for it.
Speaker 1:So I mean part of it's just some of the dialect that she speaks in.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Maybe you call it country or so overall she is country. Yeah, like her speak is just naturally country. She's from rural kentucky. Yeah, makes sense. But there's some things that she says that just have an extra twang. It gets that extra hick. And she knows when she does it, because I'll look at her and she just usually at this point tells me to shut up when, but when the two of them get together, it gets worse oh yeah well, so what I notice is um like for for a whole brian's country.
Speaker 1:I don't think he's super hick, but when hayley's talking to brian, it gets. It gets way worse because it's like just, it's like being back home for her or like when? When her dad's here, yep, it gets way worse, but so does Amanda when she's in there talking with all of them and we'll go home.
Speaker 2:I'm like this is a little more hip than usual you're gonna have to tone it down I have to say I mean I've got some too, because I did live in. Well, I lived in Georgia, in georgia, for several years and then kentucky for the largest part of my childhood.
Speaker 1:Um, so I definitely have some words, too, that that come from that kentucky area but we also realized last night you were born in the same place that our current vice president, I know yeah and middle town there was a lot of like weird similarities of like where y'all were in different times. I'm like that's Kind of weird.
Speaker 2:Well, but I found out he's two years older than me and vice president. I'm like behind. I got to do something. You got to do something better with your life. Yeah, I'm like oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:He is advanced. Well, but quite a while ago he wrote a book that turned into a movie that, so you're way behind.
Speaker 2:I'm going to start writing it out, I guess I don't know. I don't know what you're Cause I talk about. I'm from all these different places and, um you know, I spent from like middle school till late twenties in Kentucky.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, that was your largest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I spent some time in Southern Ohio, I spent time in South Florida, I spent time in Georgia, you know, time in, obviously, kentucky and now North Carolina. So I kind of was a lot of different places.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean you more, more than most people move, cause I mean most people like like for me, I've moved obviously more once I got married. You know cause you're different and you're starting your life, but you know, growing up as a kid twice, I mean we didn't move much. Yeah, I mean we the being born in Texas and we moved here when I was like nine months old, yeah, so I don't really remember that.
Speaker 2:But then after that, Would anybody do that today? Because the story for me is the first time we moved, which we went back to Ohio at one point, but the first time we moved I was like two weeks old, okay, moved all the way to South Florida from Ohio. What was the reason for that move. I was two weeks old man.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I know, but when you talked to your family as you were older, what I don't know, Maybe my grandparents lived there.
Speaker 2:I don't know if my grandparents already lived there or not, because I know they lived there when we did too. Okay. This is a really good song, by the way.
Speaker 1:Completely forgot it exists. This is a really good song by the way, completely forgot. It exists, yeah, so continue so anyway, we'll tell the people what it is. It's secondhand serenade. Most people don't even know who that is yeah, probably not. But that's a little emo for a lot of people.
Speaker 2:But it's like a slower, he's like actually singing song, so it was really good Singing through his nose.
Speaker 1:It's still good though.
Speaker 2:I, I don't care, it's still good. But no, I don't know why we moved there. I remember it a little bit.
Speaker 1:My grandparents lived there too so maybe it was for that. Yeah, well, I mean, like for us, when I moved when I was nine months old, all of dad's family is from here. Yeah, he grew up, was born and raised here, so it was just kind of come back to where all the family was, just easier. Well, see most of my family started in the southern ohio kentucky area, and that's where we ended up later in life.
Speaker 2:But we kind of moved away from it and came back um. But what I was saying is could you imagine, like when you had your kids them nine months old or even two weeks going?
Speaker 1:yeah, we're going states away, we're just well, I mean, that's like you know, mom and dad, halfway across the country yeah, put them in the car and let's go. I mean, yeah, just up and absolutely leaving.
Speaker 2:I mean, I guess that's better than when they're in school, because you've got to pull them out of school and all that stuff to change things.
Speaker 1:They don't know any better. They don't. They don't know anything.
Speaker 2:But it just feels weird taking a baby that young and just throwing them in a car seat for hours. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Was, I don't know, but I would rather do it then Than I would like now With my kids.
Speaker 2:There's too many connections. It just feels unsafe though Too many things. It feels unsafe to be in a car seat that long, but again, like I said, I don't know if I was in a car seat.
Speaker 1:But you go on vacation. I mean, we've been on vacation with kids. Every year we're in the car for hour upon hour.
Speaker 2:But I feel like when my kids were really young, we purposely picked places that wasn't as far away, not from texas.
Speaker 1:I think that was just because we were a little more poor than we are now? Well, maybe, but like we've kind of upped our vacations a little bit.
Speaker 2:The furthest I remember going would have been up to virginia. It was up there like seven hours, something like that. I think yeah, I remember taking my youngest boy when he was well, I guess he was about one yes, he's little the other one wasn't born yet and they're a a year apart. Yeah, he was little, but you're talking from Texas up here. I drove it a few years ago.
Speaker 1:I remember.
Speaker 2:It was like 14 hours or something, I think yeah, so I don't remember. Well, he was in Dallas, right, so it might have been a little more than that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because we lived in Mesquite at the time. But yeah, I mean I don't think it's that like. As far as unsafe, I mean obviously you know you travel with kids, you stop a lot more. There's blowouts and there's resting time.
Speaker 2:The women they have their doctors, they get their appointments they're going to after they have a baby, your checkups with your newborn and you're just changed up Like it had to be scary.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean because that's the thing None of the moves I've ever done have been very big. I've not had massive moves Like we moved within the state, you know, an hour and a half away, like it wasn't a crazy move. So, yeah, that's a little hard. But again, like as they get older, you think like elementary school age, you got to find a new pediatrician, you got to find new, and that's even just talking about for them. Oh yeah, we've done it. Yeah, so there's a lot of different, different stuff. You know life really changes. But you know obviously you're making the move. It's hopefully for the best of reasons, so a little different.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, all right, we got.
Speaker 2:We got to get off of such a low pace topic well, we were talking about about Kentucky, so I wanted to see if you watched any of the Kentucky game. Yeah, the fact that they suck, I don't know what's happened. Well, they don't have a point guard right now. That's part of it.
Speaker 1:but there's money, get one.
Speaker 2:You're going to bring one in the middle of the season. You have more than one. Well no, they got two. They're both hurt.
Speaker 1:I don't suck, I don't know, Well, no Something's going on with them right now. They lost again last night too. Arkansas is not good.
Speaker 2:Arkansas is not good at all.
Speaker 1:And they got beat at home.
Speaker 2:But Cal and the three players that were at Connecticut last year. They wanted it bad, you could tell those three players went off this. I've said this every year every team kentucky plays.
Speaker 1:this year it's more threes in the first half than they average all season long for whole games and I don't know if it's the defense you only notice as a fan but, you only notice as a fan because I'll say this as many times that carolina has been good and other than this year it's been most years you'll sit here and say why does every team we play do x, y or z? Yeah, as a fan, you just notice it and like, obviously you can't say that for, like an alabama you know that's a team both of our teams usually have been playing they just hit a lot of threes, they shoot a ton, they hit a lot, that's just what their identity is.
Speaker 2:I want to say it was arkansas. They said, yeah, they averaged six threes a game in the the first half they hit nine. Yeah, but now maybe that comes back to their defense, maybe they're not playing good enough defense.
Speaker 1:Well, Arkansas doesn't play defense. No, I'm saying, Kentucky's not playing good enough defense, oh no but I'm just saying Arkansas doesn't play defense and Kentucky played less in that game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Kentucky's got to figure some defense out.
Speaker 1:But what was more interesting than that? And what?
Speaker 2:everybody was excited for that was Cal coming back to Rep Arena, booze galore. There was a lot. Now I think there was some cheering too. It had been a debate. Seth Greenberg and all these national guys, j Will, all those guys talking about should you boo, shouldn't you boo?
Speaker 1:Absolutely boo.
Speaker 2:He's a coach coming in for the other team and I thought I knew how I felt and the night before I saw a um, like a survey thing, a poll right.
Speaker 2:I said survey, survey sounds so old school a survey says yeah a poll that said if you was at the game, would you cheer boo or just be silent? Right, and I started to click boo and I was like man and I had to second guess myself a little bit. Like what I, he did do a lot there. I don't hate the guy, I just hate the way things went.
Speaker 1:I'm so sick of hearing that, though. Everybody keeps saying he did a lot, what did he do?
Speaker 2:I know, I know, but it was fun. It was For the last 10 years. He's the most overrated coach in college basketball.
Speaker 1:I can't argue with that. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:But it was fun up to the last five there.
Speaker 1:But as a Kentucky fan, you're saying man, it was fun being fifth every year.
Speaker 2:But when you stop and look at the players he had and who he played and his allegiance to certain players, yeah, I would have booed the entire time.
Speaker 1:So for me, like all the national people, all this, they're saying, well, he did so much for Kentucky. No, he didn't. Kentucky was a hugely established program well before he came.
Speaker 2:They were, but they had two years of Billy Gillespie right before him. But that's it.
Speaker 1:They had Tubby Smith. Before that They've had, you know, adolph. Before that They've had Adolph Rupp. They've had some of the big, of big.
Speaker 2:But Kentucky wasn't the cool school until Calabria got there, like when he brought in John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins.
Speaker 1:I don't know that. I agree with that because I think that was just the time we were seeing a switch across college basketball, because we were starting to see recruiting became more about not just the history, not just this it's. It started to get to what can you do for me? And I think that was across the board because there was a lot of places like you can't tell me duke's a cool place to go.
Speaker 2:Oh, duke's never been cool, but but they've had some dang good teams they've had some good teams, but it was all the the uh uncool kids. I'm just gonna say it that way. I don't know You're Grayson Allen tripping people.
Speaker 1:That's a little more modern, but yeah, he's still doing that.
Speaker 2:I don't know how he's still there.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I mean you go back and like J Will and JJ and some of those guys it's like not your most popular guys that you felt like went there. Carlos Boozer, didn't Bills go there? Yeah, I was thinking he did. So, yeah, like you have those guys. But I just feel like that was a change in the time because, like the same thing, like you couldn't say Memphis was a cool place to go no, I don't think so, but he brought a lot of people to Memphis. I will never argue with anyone that he is one of the best recruiters of all time. I think you can't question that.
Speaker 2:I still don't think he's a very good coach he has to have the right people around him and that's what's falling off, and I've said that in the past on the podcast that's just to me.
Speaker 1:It's like well then, like don't go having coached. I know the better the coaches are around you, the easier it makes your job.
Speaker 2:I 100% agree with that, but you've got to know your weaknesses In anything in life. Know your weaknesses and put those around you that help you with those weaknesses.
Speaker 1:But one thing he never did. He knew he was weak on defense and he never found somebody that really helped him out with that, because they wouldn't coach and coach defense until after Christmas.
Speaker 2:But it's a thing you said about athletes. They relied so much on athleticism that it was positionless basketball.
Speaker 1:Kind of just go out there and be long and tall and jump. I have my own feelings on that, you know, for kind of both sides. I'm not really just saying oh, it's awful, or whatever. Both sides I see like where it helps to have guys that can move around and do a lot of different stuff. It's just when I look at Kentucky's last what? 10 years? Basically one championship with teams that probably should have won seven. Well, that was 2012. Yeah, so over 10 years.
Speaker 2:He was there 15 years.
Speaker 1:The last five was, we're saying, 15 years and he got one and they probably could have won half of them With the talent that were on those teams Should have. So that's where I'm just like. To me he grossly underperformed.
Speaker 2:They seem to always get in a game in the tournament In the last five years, especially For somebody that shouldn't beat them If they made the tournament in the last five years.
Speaker 1:There's one or two.
Speaker 2:they didn't, they did, but they got beat up first round.
Speaker 1:They got beat first round of the NIT, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that happened that year too, but nobody wanted to be there, which they shouldn't have been there. It's their own fault to get there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, a couple years ago Carolina declined. You just don't go yeah.
Speaker 2:Like to me. I'd rather not of a beat. It was a little small like 5,000 people, jim.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's the thing. You should be able to go out there, not trying to beat those teams yeah, you should when you're that level. Like Carolina a couple years ago got invited to NIT. He was going to be number one in NIT and they said we're good.
Speaker 2:Our season's done. It sounds like you're okay booing him or has Kentucky fans booing him. When does it change?
Speaker 1:20 years.
Speaker 2:When he leaves Arkansas.
Speaker 1:Like if he left.
Speaker 2:Arkansas, two years from now.
Speaker 1:So I think that's kind of where we saw it changed with Patino. It wasn't when he was at Louisville, it was when he left to the next team.
Speaker 2:So it really didn't change for Patino until Mark Pope came this year. That's when it big it was maybe going away a little bit.
Speaker 1:It's been changed, not fully, but him and Cal hated each other. So as long as Cal was there, I understand that.
Speaker 2:But for a lot of fans their mind already kind of changed on him quite a few years ago when he got out of Louisville, and yeah, because that's the thing A, because that's the thing, a little bit, you can't be at Louisville because it's a rival.
Speaker 1:They're never going to change.
Speaker 2:But he was Mark Pope's coach and they won a championship in 96.
Speaker 1:But when you get when he was at Iona for a bit. It's like there's nothing there.
Speaker 2:He's at St.
Speaker 1:John's now and he kind of grew himself back into a good coach where he was building a team there. It's kind of like, yeah, we don't really care anymore. It was enough. Time had passed Anything like this with Calipari over the next few years. The recency bias of you left our team. For who? Arkansas?
Speaker 2:Like Arkansas is not historically a basketball team.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think he left it for Arkansas.
Speaker 2:Oh, he left for money. Tyson Chicken pays some money, man, oh I know. But even right before he left he tried to get more money out of UK. I think kind of use it as some leverage. And they was like nope, thank you, we don't have to pay you no more, See ya. So I can tell you this I just don't know when it's going to change.
Speaker 1:I'm not a Calipari fan. I'd take him over my coach right now.
Speaker 2:I'm sure you would.
Speaker 1:Huber Davis.
Speaker 2:I know you're never going to hear this, but man, this is bad. I've seen some people sticking up for him A buddy of ours on Facebook really sticking up for him.
Speaker 1:Same one saying the players need to take responsibility. I think so. I think he's lost his mind Really. Yes, and me and him are very good friends and agree with a lot of stuff on Carolina basketball, but I'm so sick of everybody saying well, it's on the players. A coach has to set up your players for success Statistically. Look at our lineups. They're not good. Yeah, they are. They are minus in every category as a lineup. They're like well, he doesn't, you can't, you can't use this argument. Well, he doesn't have the NIL money, it's Chapel Hill, yeah.
Speaker 2:The home of.
Speaker 1:Michael Jordan. The home of Michael Jordan. What do you mean? You don't have money, Like money's not an option.
Speaker 2:But if you don't have it, that's your fault too. Go get it. That's where we're at, and if you don't want to go get it, don't coach the last couple of days just came out.
Speaker 1:They hired a NIL manager.
Speaker 2:I saw this. Actually, I'm not amused.
Speaker 1:Yes, brian posted it.
Speaker 2:I had seen put a comment on there. The guy left Kentucky a couple years ago, left Cal Staff to go. Be that for them.
Speaker 1:So I don't know what happened. Maybe he didn't do a good enough job, all that stuff, and they're like well, huber Davis just needs help with it. Then get him help, that's fine. If he's not good with that side of it either, we need a coach that knows how to do it all, because, whether you like it or not, you've heard our statements on NIL across the board. It is here to stay. It's here. This is the way it is. So I have a really hard time where everybody's like well, the players just don't seem like they care. They're tired of losing. You don't go to Chapel Hill to lose. Same way, you don't go to Kentucky to lose. You don't go to Duke to lose. You don't go to UConn to lose, like you're going to these schools because we're supposed to potentially be there every year.
Speaker 2:What I hate, though, is when the season starts. I'm sure Hubert Davis was the same way. Oh, I got a good team, I got the players I wanted, we yada, yada, yada yada. And then you start losing. Oh, losing. If I didn't have enough NIL money to get who I wanted.
Speaker 1:So to me, though, as a fan, I could tell you our roster from the beginning of the season we didn't have a good team. We don't have a single center on the roster. Yeah, that'll hurt you. This is the most undersized Carolina team I think I've ever seen. So Carolina, which is known, usually every year, the top rebounding team in the country, especially offensive rebounding. They do a great job of that.
Speaker 2:We don't have any like we're having to get rebounding from our guards. They're bad this year.
Speaker 1:It's pathetic. They're like 13 and 10. Yeah, and then I saw one guy. They're like, well, at least we're above 500. I'm like wrong school to say that. Yeah, if you're, you know Virginia Tech right now.
Speaker 2:yeah, we were good to be in 500. But think about that Every school, even the good schools Duke Carolina, kentucky, kansas, all of them, the first several games are like nobodies.
Speaker 1:Well, so for those schools, anymore you're playing some big names first.
Speaker 2:Well, they are, but the teams you should still beat.
Speaker 1:Well, no, but at the beginning of the season every team Carolina played for like the first four was top 15 teams.
Speaker 2:Well, maybe that's their problem.
Speaker 1:But they were playing like Michigan State, they were playing, they played Kansas, they're playing a lot of big-name schools. And then we got to some of the like Elon, you know, here in North Carolina, beat them by like nine and I'm like that is worrisome.
Speaker 1:Okay when you're playing that far down, which the past few years Carolina has done it. I mean, you go back several years. First game of the season we lost to Santa Clara and then we blew everybody out for a national championship. So it's like all right, you kind of make up for it One of those losses like that. You're like you got to get yourself in the season.
Speaker 2:I get it. What You've got to get yourself in the season, I get it. What are you hearing on tournament? They got a shot? Heck? No, you think so.
Speaker 1:No, we have to win the ACC tournament to get in. That's it. That's their only shot. That ain't happening and they could win that and still get like an 11 seed, like it's that bad at this point. I don't think they're winning that either, duke is going to run away conference.
Speaker 2:Um, the game they played this past saturday was not a game, I mean at one point.
Speaker 1:It was like 40 to 15 but I'm seeing this again.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know, I saw it. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I thought you were doing with north carolina. Yes, no, you text me and you were like oh, my lord hey, is it time for the coaching search? And I mean I'm I've been on it for a bit. Yeah, I, I got into it kind of late and I turned on, so the score was like 40 to 50.
Speaker 1:I didn't like the hire. I was not a Hubert Davis guy when we hired him. Hubert is actually a really, really really good assistant coach. I really think he is. He is good for your program. He's not the guy I want leading, not the head coach. But Carolina has this. Oh, we're going to hire from you. Know you've got to be a Carolina guy, but to me that's not. Don't hire a guy that his first head coaching job ever. That's a little tough. That's a tough position to be in.
Speaker 2:I don't like that at any school. But I, you know, looking at the scores and stuff this past weekend, a lot of good teams are losing again, Like it is just beating up on each other, other than Duke is still doing well, but they're in the ACC.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of talent across the board, though the top 25 is a little sporadic. It's a little all over the place, but I'm really excited for the tournament this year. I don't know what to expect. I think that's what excites me so much. You know, espn always runs their million-dollar perfect bracket challenge Good luck.
Speaker 2:I was going to say good luck. It's hard enough On a regular year.
Speaker 1:that's hard enough, but then you get it this year. It's so all over the map. I mean, it feels like every week we have at least two or three unranked being ranked.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't want to be on that committee that's trying to seed everybody. It's gonna be tough, because it's gonna be very tough say, oh, they beat this team, this team, and they lost to these nobodies. And I don't know how you're gonna, I know they have, you know, quad ones and twos.
Speaker 1:So to me it's like auburn duke you got one seeds, congrats outside of that all right, let's find out yeah, I mean it's we going to have playing games for the. Iowa State was up there for a second.
Speaker 2:They've lost two in a row, I think.
Speaker 1:We've had. You know, kentucky was up there for a bit, you had Tennessee up there for a bit, you had Florida up there for a bit. Which the SEC? They're getting like 10 teams in.
Speaker 2:It's unbelievable, it's just full, you know being a Kentucky Kentucky fan, watching it and seeing Kentucky go beat Tennessee and then lose to Arkansas and the way they ran with Alabama, I was going to pull up the top 25 and the first thing that pops up is an NBA game 140 to 109.
Speaker 1:That's not fun to me. I don't like that kind of basketball.
Speaker 2:Sorry continue back to no. What you're saying is one reason I don't watch it, because they just dribble the ball up and shoot from the logo, like every time. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And it's Well. Another ranked team got beat by an unranked. Tonight Rutgers beat Illinois. Okay, again, not teams. We don't really see those teams much, but still rank again is going to be, but it's happening a ton. Tennessee had a good win over Missouri and then Duke won by 30. It's kind of just yeah, that's what they're going to do. They're going to run through everybody. So, yeah, current you've got oh, I forget Alabama probably get a one seed, and I don't think we really question that at this point. They're playing really good.
Speaker 1:They are Playing really, really good, the top five. There's three SEC teams Still. Currently you have Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, Tennessee coming back up there.
Speaker 2:They went to Florida and lost by a ton and then beat Florida the other day.
Speaker 1:If you continue, top ten you've got Texas, a&m, that's ten, florida that's six, tennessee, alabama, auburn, half the top 10 is sec and I think right behind that you've got kentucky. Uh, maybe old miss mississippi state and old miss. Yeah, you've got 10 ranked teams in top 25, so they're getting at least 10. You would think I mean I, you can't say a top 25 team is not going to be in.
Speaker 2:I don't know. So what does that do when they just keep beating each other? Is it hurting everybody?
Speaker 1:So it hurts your obviously winning percentage, it hurts your opponent's percentage and then there's opponent's opponents and that's kind of how they do the high school stuff. But part of it depends on when you got that loss. Was it home or away? Was it by how many points? Like they look at all those?
Speaker 2:little aspects. A lot of these losses are happening on the road. Yes, Now Kentucky.
Speaker 1:obviously that hurts less, I believe Now Arkansas currently doesn't get in. No, they're like 13 to 10, like Carolina, like they've lost too many at this point that They've lost too many at this point.
Speaker 2:That'd be tough. While we're on basketball, yep, roll with it. We've said several times we coach a youth girls basketball team here that my daughter's on we're currently sitting at 4-0 undefeated.
Speaker 1:right now We've got a coaching staff that's up for coach of the year.
Speaker 2:Yep, I agree. I think we're the one giving that award. I hear their head coach is just top-notch. I don't hear him say much.
Speaker 1:No, so obviously we both coached this team. Obviously, you really didn't ask me, but of course I'm going to do it. It's my niece.
Speaker 2:I would absolutely help coach I knew you would, and that's what you know you. Uh, you've coached basketball before and I haven't.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, I know the game, but you, within the past few years, I was coaching our local high school varsity boys with our our good buddy paul, who was the head coach, and you know me and will were assistants there on that that second year there, yeah and uh. So yeah, I mean it's just so for me that's a little natural, more for me, just because you haven't done it.
Speaker 2:The uh, I should get an award for that. You know the head coach.
Speaker 1:I just went and got you to do the work for me, so. I mean ain't that what I'm supposed to do. Delegate, you're doing a good job. Delegating, yeah, so, um, you know, so so far I've you know is part of basketball. You always use the rules to your advantage any way you can.
Speaker 2:Um, some of the coaches weren't always the happiest about it, but they fortunately were mad at the refs and not at me, so it worked out well. I wouldn't say rule bending. You're within the rules, it's just the oh, I'm within it.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna break them, I'm within it, but it's we don't establish.
Speaker 2:You're a rule follower, so yeah, but when it?
Speaker 1:comes to competitive, I'll follow them, but I'll get right to the line.
Speaker 2:I know where to go. This past week we played probably the I think would be the number two team in our league.
Speaker 1:We did not play great.
Speaker 2:We didn't.
Speaker 1:We literally shot them six times.
Speaker 2:But we played really good defense.
Speaker 1:We played good defense.
Speaker 2:I will say that the only points of the team scored was free throws yeah, well, and it wasn't even free.
Speaker 1:Those are in the game. No, it was the halftime free throws which I I'm so back and forth. I don't like that. I get it. I get it because it gives everybody a chance to potentially score, but like yeah, for those who don't know, that's not teaching anybody halftime between the games.
Speaker 2:uh, each team gets to shoot free throws for points and they count towards your actual in-game score. They do, and so our team is really good and really bad at free throws. We cannot make free throws.
Speaker 1:And, honestly, we've got some decent shooters. They just we don't have a lot of attention span on our team. Maybe that's what it is I feel like we've seen that, because there's two in particular I can think of that.
Speaker 2:It's like we do better.
Speaker 1:Everywhere.
Speaker 2:Driving to the basket and shooting it, or grabbing a rebound, putting it back in, than we do shooting a free throw.
Speaker 1:We are a great transition team. We're going to steal the ball, put you in a turnover and get it down the floor. We're working on that a lot. We got a lot better the other day. Defense has been. Really good A couple of the kids On our team that we were worried About defensively have been. They've stepped into so so good and it's been fun to watch, you know, seeing, seeing the girls get better and getting to Continue and grow with it.
Speaker 2:Well, this Saturday, if we win, we lock up.
Speaker 1:The regular season we lock up first place?
Speaker 2:yep, and then we'll try to continue to be undefeated and go into a tournament and see what happens there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we've got to win the tournament. That's the most important thing, but that's what we really really want to see.
Speaker 2:No, it's been fun and I sent a text out to the group the other day. I don't know if you saw it, but I really believe every girl on our team is just extremely coachable, respectful they're, they're great teammates. Um that close game the other night if we won, we've got some pictures and videos of them just like hugging each other and just all of them and everybody's important and that's been really fun for me to do be part of those girls like that.
Speaker 1:Sorry I got just a little bit distracted. I didn't see this. Jim Butler got traded to the Warriors.
Speaker 2:Doesn't everybody hate him, wherever he goes, as far, as a teammate.
Speaker 1:I mean here lately. I wouldn't be happy to have him. I mean, he's walked out on his team countless times at this point. How's he still in the league? Because he's a good ball player. He's still currently at a peak. But yeah, I hadn't seen this.
Speaker 2:There was another trade I saw that I thought was on. I can't remember what it was now.
Speaker 1:So they traded Andrew Wiggins. So Andrew Wiggins, Kyle Anderson and a pick. So yeah, I hadn't seen that, so that'll be interesting. I don't know that he fits there, but that's a very Curry-centric team. It is Like everything's set up for him, which I get. I mean, it makes sense, yeah.
Speaker 2:He's been there forever and it's always been his team.
Speaker 1:I'm just not sure how that's going to go. Kind of the same way, Luka and LeBron. I'm not sure, but that one's a little worse to me.
Speaker 2:I think we talked about this a little bit last week, but we've got the Super Bowl coming up and then I'll watch college basketball. I don't know when I'll get into the NBA. It might be playoffs, playoffs.
Speaker 1:So to me, depending on playoff race kind of that, last week, that last two weeks of the regular season, I might start watching, because you kind of see the flip they go from let's go score 140 to it's about to be 100 to 100, and it's a little bit like we're about to grind.
Speaker 2:We're at least going to try to stop you.
Speaker 1:And that's when it's to me I'm like this is better basketball. I'll watch it then, because I feel like you see effort on both ends consistently, Because it's like, oh well, they have all these big blocks all the time. Look at the rest of the game. Just because there's two big blocks in a game that's that long doesn't mean there was actually a good defense. No, like I said, I mean you had the Thunder versus the Suns 140 to 109. Yeah, like 250 points, that's too much, that's not fun.
Speaker 2:But the NBA thinks that's what everybody wants.
Speaker 1:The NBA is not in a great place right now. Their product is not very good.
Speaker 2:But, we're going to go to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we've made it this far and haven't discussed it.
Speaker 2:There was an interview or a press conference or something with I can't remember how the mayor of Philadelphia misspelled the Eagles, but I was going to chant it, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:It was bad. That's pretty rough. It was really bad. It was like I can't even remember it was bad and they're like chanting and you could tell people were like trying to be like that ain't right. But we're still two or three.
Speaker 2:I did see the press ask Mahomes who his favorite ref was yeah, so I've seen some of his stuff.
Speaker 1:My stuff, my favorite stuff, has been uh, james winston, you see any of those? Oh no, I have not. Oh my gosh, he's in there and he's, he's up there. He's like hey, saquon, real quick. Last question he said uh, you know, currently I don't have a team. You know, I'm a free agent. I'm looking for somebody. You know anybody that that needs a quarterback? And saquon, without even thinking yeah, I hear new york needs one and he's like which?
Speaker 2:new york.
Speaker 1:he said the and he's like which New York, he said the Giants, and he's like, oh okay, I got you, I got you. And then he had a thing with Travis Kelsey. He's like, hey, man, you go catch them Ws and he's throwing these W cookies at him and he's up there catching them and somebody snatches one from the side.
Speaker 1:And he said they're even trying to intercept me in here and I'm like that's been the best content I've seen. He's, he's funny. I'm not a huge James Winston fan, you know. Sorry, bobby, I know you've Florida state criminals. Y'all are, y'all are big on that, but we're state criminals. Yeah, I mean that calls him that.
Speaker 2:So where did uh, uh cam newton when he over there somewhere at one point he was at uh, florida, and then juco, and then florida I knew it was somewhere. Yeah, yeah, because he's you know all that whole deal anyways, right, right uh, but I saw stories you know the press asking him his ref, and then he got on this big kick.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I'm really anti-Chiefs. Taylor Swift is on, I've got to turn it Okay.
Speaker 2:yeah, go ahead and turn that. Not today. I don't really like Taylor Swift anyways.
Speaker 1:I don't either. It's just not my style of music.
Speaker 2:But he was asking the press. He's like why are you press really getting into this referee thing and all this stuff? And in my mind I'm thinking because it's like look at it, it seems real.
Speaker 1:Well, so the NFL came out and made a statement. Was it another one of those? They?
Speaker 2:should have just shut their mouth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they should have just kept their mouth shut. They're like of course we're not giving them special calls. The refs are doing a fantastic job. The men and women that are our referees were super proud of what they do and we couldn't do this game without them. And I'm like, again, it's another group that just needs to keep their mouth shut Because the NFL or the Chiefs coming out and saying, well, of course we don't get this. Nobody believes it.
Speaker 2:It doesn't make any sense. We don't need either one of them groups to say anything.
Speaker 1:No, we need to see it. If the Bills came out or the Texans, we had questionable calls these last two games. If either of them come out and they're like no, like, we don't feel, like it's that so far I'm not seeing them. Nope, it's crickets on those camps Because they know what happened. So it just it's very questionable. Still, I'm curious to see what group we get reffed in the Super Bowl. A lot of people are, you know, are talking about Super Bowl halftime show. Kendrick Lamar. I'll tune that out completely. I will too, which I do that kind of with every halftime show.
Speaker 2:Are you going to watch the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1:Like really watch it.
Speaker 2:I don't think I will either. I'll watch commercials. Yeah, is that one of those where normally you watch the game commercial? All right, let me go grab a drink Now it's going to be.
Speaker 1:I'll get up and get my food and drink during the game and get back for the commercials. Here's the thing I'll watch. It Is the commercials still a thing To an extent. I don't feel like it's as much as it used to be, but most people watch Super Bowl live. You have very few people that watch it delayed Because it's Super Bowl Like a championship, I feel like of any kind you're kind of more in the moment with it. You don't really want to kind of play catch up because there's too many things out there that are updating you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the only game I don't know if I will for a championship game, but I like to start a game late, and not so late that I'm going to be way behind, but to the point that I can kind of end it live. But I can still skip through a lot of the commercials and stuff.
Speaker 1:So it's easy during the season because there's 10 other games happening, but when it's a playoff or obviously a championship, that's all people have to report on.
Speaker 2:So you're going to see it somewhere.
Speaker 1:You kind of have to be a little more alive with that one. So here's the thing. I'll watch it Cheering for the Eagles picking the Chiefs. I'll just be honest with you I'm cheering for the Eagles, but I'm picking that the Chiefs will win.
Speaker 2:I don't know how much I'll watch. I will have it on. I don't know. I'll be surprised. I'll report back afterwards and see how much I actually watch.
Speaker 1:I will one because it's going to be the only thing. On Two, because it's still NFL playoffs. I'm not a huge NFL fan, kind of the same with NBA but we get to the playoffs and it just feels different, it's different football.
Speaker 2:They're making me have to wait another week on NASCAR, because we did get a little bit of NASCAR this past week, oh boy, I'm going to fall asleep now.
Speaker 2:Country music and NASCAR. I'm starting to see a pattern here of things you don't like. I think there's a connection B. There's a connection. Boring things, yes, but I'm ready for NASCAR to start back. You know NASCAR has some issues, as every sport. They're trying to do things make it more exciting and it probably hurts the competition. But they had a little exhibition at a little short track. It was kind of fun to watch. They had some heat races and it was a lot of wrecking each other. A short track.
Speaker 1:you can just run into them and spin them out of the way and people getting mad and running over and you know, on caution laps and so that the thing about nascar though nascar is really hard to grow, a ton of new fans it's it's such to me it feels so niche that it's really hard to just it's never, no matter what you do, it is never going to appeal to the masses. Like it's just not that type of sport. Same thing like golf, though Like golf will never really appeal to the masses. Like I think they have a little more potential too, cause, like with the TGL stuff, if that really catches on, it's so kind of different that you have that.
Speaker 1:Um, NASCAR I don't feel like really has kind of that next thing that they can do. That's similar to that, but it's hard. The same way we complain about golf in the fact of FedEx points and keeping track of who gets what, NASCAR is the same way. Well it's a lot better though. It's hard to keep up with who's getting this, who's getting that, why they get this, why they get that.
Speaker 2:So I got to disagree with you a little bit because NASCAR, they changed their points a little bit to make it more reasonable. And then I think they do a great job on the broadcasts, especially as you get into the season with who's got what points and literally live points changing throughout the race when you get close to playoffs and who's going to be in. So I think they do a good job with that of trying to get the everyday average. You know just watching.
Speaker 1:Okay, then what's their point?
Speaker 2:system. So it's one point per position.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And then you get a bonus for winning, and how often do you get points? Every race, but you're saying they live update that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like is there, is there points per x amount of laps points?
Speaker 2:so, so what it is. They went stage racing a few years ago and so every race will be broken in stages. Usually it's three stages, so you run so many laps for stage one and they'll have a checker inside the race. It's kind of a. It's not the end of the race, but you know that section, and so you get points. The first 10 get points in that first stage. The second stage, the first 10 get points and at the end everybody gets points based on where you finish and what they're trying to do is keep cars. Years and years ago you could ride around for 200 laps and then just let me go race the end and get a bunch of points. Well, now they make you race for that try to be top 10 throughout, kind of thing. Um, so they've done a lot better job with that so still not seamless.
Speaker 1:I can tell you that still not seamless like they're, which a lot of the non, the big four, anything outside the big four, all their point systems are always gonna be a little bit harder to follow, because it's not it's always right in front of your face.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's just it's just very different.
Speaker 1:So that's that's not me saying well they, they still could.
Speaker 2:We could always change stuff but that's my argument with golf. Their points are kind of all over the place, but at least tell me about it on every broadcast. Explain it to me, help me understand who's away, but it's hard during eight hours. I'll just be honest with you, that's true, they do talk about it. I don't have time to watch all four days anyways.
Speaker 1:Because you've got like most events are somewhere around 500 FedEx points or 200 FedEx points, depending on the elevated events, whatever, and there's spreads and different stuff and to me golf needs to redo their point system completely.
Speaker 2:By no means will I sit here and say, oh, it's easy to follow. It is not. Yeah, like I'm a huge, huge, huge fan, it is not easy to follow. It's very hard to get. One thing nascar did several years ago is they issued charters to, to so many teams and basically guarantees you a spot in the race and you, I think you get an extra money from the purse or whatever by being and there's like like I don't know 36 of them or whatever, 30-something of them, whatever they give. But the reason they've done that is because they wanted to guarantee that the big-name guys were at every race If you, as a fan, came they're there.
Speaker 1:It's no different than the signature events in golf.
Speaker 2:It's the same thing, no, but in NASCAR it's not just like you've event throughout the entire season, which I wish they'd done more vast majority is signature events anymore.
Speaker 1:The way they've got it marked up, your marquee event, signature event, all the big names are there. There's no cut. You're guaranteed to see every guy for the four days, but me.
Speaker 2:I don't know when those signature events are. I hate when I turn it on and somebody's not playing the biggest issue, which I've said.
Speaker 1:this, and you've agreed with it golf has to figure out a channel and stick with it when you're spread out across four different channels at different times, four different days, and you've agreed with it golf has to figure out a channel and stick with it when you're spread out across four different channels at different times four different days you switch during the day and then this day it starts on this channel. Within the next day it's going to start on that channel, but then switch back.
Speaker 2:It's just too confusing. I've been watching before. You know come on on the golf channel in the morning and I've got it on and I'm doing something else in the background.
Speaker 1:And the next thing you look and it's gone. Yeah, and I'm like what am I watching or you're watching? You know, drive, chip and Putt Challenge. You're like hang on, this is a major tournament. Where'd it go?
Speaker 2:I get on my phone, I'm looking. Oh, it switched to NBC at 2 o'clock.
Speaker 1:I mean, it goes over there for the fan experience. You need to change it. They're starting to work on slow play, they're trying to get the big guys there more often, so some of that's happening, but the point system is not great. The playoff is not a playoff. The playoff is not a playoff.
Speaker 2:It's a mess. Can we put a shot? Clock on the tour.
Speaker 1:Well, there actually is one. There always has been one, well, but it's never been enforced.
Speaker 2:But I want a quick one.
Speaker 1:There'd be no way to do it, Because I mean, you've got to think You've got, when the tournament starts, 120-something people. You know. Sometimes it's groups of three and four per whole, Like you know some, sometimes it's groups of three and four per hole, like you're talking about all the.
Speaker 2:You'd have to hire a ton more people. Yeah, really, really hard. There's a lot going on with that many players and there you can't hit till you walk up. Well, and the people in front of you got to be out of the way, like the one thing I think that nascar has over golf is they're all right there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, property may be big, but it's not. It's not golf course spread Like. Even when they get on these big tracks and they're technically spread out, they're still in a combined they're still on that track when? Golf. It's like take Pebble Beach, for instance. At one point they're actually playing on two different courses, like on one day you play this course, the next day you play this. It's like it's so hard to really get an understanding for that.
Speaker 2:To be honest, I don't like that. Let's play the same course, so you will just different days, I know, but every other tournament. You play the same course four days in a row. Now they change tees and pin locations.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's just kind of part of it. Yeah, so again, golf has a long ways to go to really cater to fans. Maybe you just need to start watching more NASCAR. I will not at all. That's what you should do. Those aren't real cars. I love cars and I can never get behind it.
Speaker 2:So do you feel that way about your local dirt tracks? Because those ain't real cars either.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't like it either.
Speaker 2:Like the modifieds, they run.
Speaker 1:No, I don't like that either.
Speaker 2:Like sprint cars. Those ain't real like the wing sprints.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, I don't like that kind of stuff. You don't like none of that stuff. No, I'm a car enthusiast. I'm not a racing enthusiast.
Speaker 2:You're more like street racing.
Speaker 1:No, because then we're going illegal at that point.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not saying illegal, but getting in a real car and racing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like a car that is basically a real car, maybe even like a racing spec of that car. So it's going to be gutted and you know all the different things, but you know more of just like. That is a car you could go buy. I get that like that, like technically, if I wanted to and I was into racing that much and I'm big in you know, whether it's a bmw series or whatever series I can go buy the car that they they're racing so you felt like like indy f1, all that stuff yeah, it's just, it doesn't that stuff is just, it doesn't really appeal to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it's that stuff yeah it's just, it doesn't that stuff is just it doesn't really appeal to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because it's, but I think nascar is closer than nascar is probably closer than any of these other, even dirt tracks and indy, and they're closer I feel like they're just as far, purely on the fact it's like well, we're saying this is a ford mustang, we're saying this is a what it ain't, but they somewhat look like an actual car you'd see on the road, even though they're not built that way at all.
Speaker 2:Like it's not even it's not even body panels. Like the entire car is sheet metal, sheet metal.
Speaker 1:It's all wrapped like it's just it doesn't feel like real cars, no matter how much you make it look like one, it's just not like.
Speaker 2:It's very difficult you know Well, when NASCAR started, it was real cars. Oh yeah, you know, back years and years ago, and then everybody could kind of the cars got.
Speaker 1:After you got done running your Moonshine, you went race. You did yeah, because that's where it started yeah, and then they started.
Speaker 2:Cars got closer and closer together, but you could kind of do your own thing. Right and a few years ago now it became like they all got to basically get to get a lot of the parts from the same people. I'm sure you still have your differences, that you can set your car up differently.
Speaker 1:Of course. Yeah, you can do suspension angles and you know whatever that you feel like your team needs. But yeah, it's just, it's never been something that that interests me. I just I don't know. I haven't?
Speaker 2:I like the whole, the whole puzzle, and I've said before I want to see it from lap one on because I don't want to miss anything, I want to know what happens at the end, and I think it's more of that for me, just all of it together.
Speaker 1:It's too long of the exact same thing for me, like some of these races are 500 laps of the same circle.
Speaker 2:It is. It's like whew.
Speaker 1:It is.
Speaker 2:There's some excitement.
Speaker 1:I could tune in for the last 10 and be fine.
Speaker 2:There's some races that it gets some boring spots in it.
Speaker 1:But that's where they put the stages in and different stuff to try to help. To me. It's hard for something like that because, although the top 10 may get points through those sections, it really doesn't matter until the end Because winning you're going to get more points. The higher position you are, the more points you get.
Speaker 2:But those points come in big time. They may, but it's still like maybe you need to do like um, like nba and everything you're talking about, just watching the playoffs, because then it's you win or go home on a lot of those again.
Speaker 1:For me, though, like these, a lot of these individual sports, their playoffs are not done the greatest because they're so worried about gotta have big names. Nobody's gonna watch, it's like well not necessarily like if somebody's that good and they're on a run, that you shouldn't be seeing a guy like this make a run.
Speaker 2:That, to me, is more interesting yeah, no, I mean they, they've had that several years in nascar and then, you know, it still points a little bit. But it's a series. I don't bore everybody, but it's a series just me, yeah, just you.
Speaker 1:Series of races, if you win.
Speaker 2:you move on. Your Points still come into play sometimes, but the final race, you got four cars. Whoever is the highest placing of those four cars wins the championship. Now take it or leave it. Sometimes you don't get the best car winning the championship or the best driver throughout the year winning the championship, but it's kind of a playoff Win or go home. Yeah, that's where we go.
Speaker 1:You're still there next week, but you're not in the championship anymore. How many races during the season do they have? It's not like a super, super long season.
Speaker 2:I want to say 36 or something like that. That's longer than I thought.
Speaker 1:Longer than I thought I've got to look it up. I'm not sure. Well, because you look at golf. Golf at this point is almost year-round. They have such a tiny break Now. A lot of the big names take off the fall season because it makes no sense to have a fall season after your playoff championship, but whatever, 36. Yeah, so it's pretty long, but they also have a decent defined break, which I like.
Speaker 2:That I like the idea Like a sport should have a decent defined break.
Speaker 1:Golf is almost like we gotta overflow you with it and it's like, well, let's fill it differently. Like to me, like I like the idea of putting TGL post playoff, that fill that, you know, kind of no golf period. It's weird to me to have it in like the, like the start of the season, like we had Pebble the other day, which is a one of the most beautiful courses in the world to me, I think it is fantastic.
Speaker 2:It's truly in the air. I didn't even watch any of it.
Speaker 1:I did. I got to catch a good portion of it, but obviously they're in the desert. This week at Phoenix Waste Management See how wild that one gets. That's usually a pretty wild tournament. I know they're really strict on the rules this year trying to calm it down after last year. A lot of arrests.
Speaker 2:Last year there's two things, though, that NASCAR or any racing really and golf have in common, and I don't know. That I, like, is every week they're at a different location so it can fit your style better. And same thing I said with NASCAR when they get to the last race and you got four cars. What's happened the past few years is there's a certain owner group that owns these cars that are always better at that track and have been winning the championship, and I feel that way with golf too. There's some courses that just fit guys better, and I don't know. I love that, because every other sport you know football, basketball, baseball you're on the same type field. Baseball is a little weird because they get different home run yards, which is silly.
Speaker 1:Well, so football dimensions are the same, but when you start talking about elevation change, you start talking about some of that. That does take a big play.
Speaker 2:To me.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's a little bit less in basketball because you're indoors.
Speaker 2:I would say a lot of football play indoors anymore. The big games they go to the big.
Speaker 1:Some of the big ones, but most of them are still outdoor, but because they, a lot of people have gone away from the like you said the dimensions and all.
Speaker 2:It's the same. Where in golf it could be. Of course it's longer, shorter, you know.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't know Just lots of differences there, so I kind of like that about it. That's one of the things that I do find intriguing about golf. More is it's like you can't just say you know, heck, we'll crack on kickers at this point. You know football kicker, no matter where you go, you're doing the exact same thing You're just kicking the ball.
Speaker 1:You're kicking the ball. Obviously your elevation, your wind, you know some of that changes. But golf you have to hit a shot different because they use a different grass than the other place. Yeah, you have to truly have an unbelievable skill in every aspect to do it.
Speaker 1:So that's, I think, where I really kind of get into it, because it's like it's not that I was going out there and swinging like I really have to pay attention to a lot of little variances and then especially you know day by day, then move in pins and and you know whole locations and like, just because you did really well yesterday doesn't mean you're gonna play all day well, like I said, the wind plays a factor in the weather.
Speaker 2:It's raining or whatever. Huge, but do you get?
Speaker 1:really windy and all of a sudden this the greens are faster and all you know all the crazy I know we've talked about the points in the championship and they give, you know, a head start.
Speaker 2:Basically, I hate that. I hate their playoffs. How much do you think the course comes into play? I know we've talked about the points in the championship and they give a head start basically I hate it.
Speaker 1:I hate their playoffs.
Speaker 2:How much do you think the course comes into play with the guys that are the top what three or four that really have a chance to go in it? But this course just suits this guy way better. Does that happen to where? Maybe?
Speaker 1:the best golfer doesn't win when they host the tournament at Eastlake in Georgia. Where they host the tournament at Eastlake in Georgia. For me the course itself doesn't really make a ton. It's more of like the conditions of the rough being really high and some of those that really makes it, and more kind of like technically maybe some narrower landing zones, but I don't feel like the course in itself. On you have to have the huge distance or you have to have this Cause we've seen guys win that aren't the long hitter. We've seen guys win that are the long hitter, but maybe you're not quite as good with you know a wedge, technically, you know whatever. But so I mean the course that they currently play it on, I don't really feel like that, really feel like that. Now there's some rumor that at some point we may make some changes and alternate.
Speaker 1:Maybe then we could say it, but the course they play at, it kind of just feels like it's kind of fits everybody it's not just run-of-the-mill generic, but kind of in a way feels for those guys, yeah, yeah it's not a course that I'm like man. We're at a really beautiful, like finishing season, like hurrah type place it's kind of just I feel like we should like to me the fact that we play. The only real tournament we're playing at pebble is, uh, the pill beach pro am. That blows my mind. Pebble is an amazing course.
Speaker 2:That is super, super difficult and we only play it like once let's go, let's go finish up at the masters or something, something big name um.
Speaker 1:So for me, like I like the idea of it being somewhere different, like I like the idea that you know, like the Super Bowl or the Olympics, like they've planned this out for years in advance, like let's know that, well, in three years, this is where we're headed. Oh yeah, like every year, be somewhere yeah like just somewhere, just kind of change it up. Like that to me is kind of more interesting.
Speaker 1:No, I think that would be way more um, I guess, fair for everybody, because if this course doesn't suit you good this year, what you got, next year we're going to be in a different course, which, again, these guys are. They're really really good. Like golf is one of those that people don't realize how good they really are. Um, it's not just something you can go out and just be really good at to start. Some people claim they are, but that's a whole separate thing, yeah, sure, but here's one thing.
Speaker 1:We've talked about a bunch of sports and some different things, something I want to end on. I told you I was going to ask you this question, but I didn't really give you the question.
Speaker 1:I don't know how long we've been talking tonight. We've been on it, we've been going. But I have this question and we've been kind of through every sport tonight. Really didn't plan on getting to every sport, we kind of touched on just about everything, didn't hit any tennis, but we may come back to that at some point. Tennis is kind of boring to me To a lot of people it is. It's one of those, like most of the people, that are really into it probably play it Like how you feel about NASCAR.
Speaker 1:That's probably how I feel about tennis. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think I probably hate NASCAR more. Yeah, I'm just not as rude as you, so Right.
Speaker 1:Right, so on the spot. No research just off the top of your head.
Speaker 2:All right time to go to bed, guys. See you later.
Speaker 1:Top five sports movies in your opinion. Oh gosh, I don't know, but just some that pop in your head that you're like I love that movie. I'd go watch it.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I can do that off the top of my head, really. What time is it? Right now? I know it's late, I mean, come on.
Speaker 1:But to me, I can think of sports movies. Sports movies are natural. I've watched them.
Speaker 2:There. Think of sports like sports movies just are natural. I'm good, I've watched them.
Speaker 1:There's gonna be some that I've forgotten about, of course, this, of course. Um, that's kind of the point, like I just want, like, what are the five? One of the top?
Speaker 2:ones. That's gonna come to my mind. That is not a good production movie, but I love the aspect of it and I love football. Football is always right, my favorite, uh facing the giants. Okay, that's a good christian, well.
Speaker 1:So what got me on this topic. Earlier song came on and you're like all I can think of is remember the titans when I hear the song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then maybe I was like there we go and that's I'm gonna lean towards football movies, because of that um, yeah, I mean remember, titan's definitely one of them um I mean heck, I'll rattle you off 10 like a heartbeat what was it? Sports movies are something I've always loved. Uh, whole nine yards. Is that what they're called? What's it called?
Speaker 1:there was a whole nine yards, but that wasn't a sports movie no, the football movie, something like that.
Speaker 2:Longest yard, longest yard. Maybe that's one of them I'm thinking of. Yeah, that was the prison movie, right, yeah, but I thought there was another one that was something like that but I mean, there's a bruce willis movie that he like kills a bunch of people yeah, that's not what I'm thinking nine whole 10 and, I think, a whole 11 no, no, no, longest yard. I thought there was something else too, but I don't know. The replacements was good again, I'm thinking football movies, yeah, and I knew you would naturally go to football movies.
Speaker 1:I just knew you would. So for me, remember the Titans will always be on a list for me. I think it's a fantastic movie. I love that movie. I did hear an interesting thing here recently. Somebody said you know they start that movie and they say based on a true story and you watch that whole movie. They're the only team of black players. And I saw a thing the other day that said every team in their conference had black players and I was like don't ruin that for me, right, don't do that.
Speaker 1:And so I was just like I'm going to ignore that, like I still just love the movie.
Speaker 2:And I think it's a fun aspect of everything. Um, I've always loved coach carter. A basketball movie? Um, what's the basketball movie? Um, with the, the black players, and they go play kentucky and coach rup is who's supposed to be. Oh gosh yeah, it's.
Speaker 1:Uh, that's a good movie, utep, but it was texas el paso then, yes, it's utep now. Yeah, I can't think of the name of the movie, but oh yeah, I do like that. That was a good movie I've always loved.
Speaker 2:We are marshall I thought about a second ago.
Speaker 1:That was a good one for me, but then where I also go really quickly because it was like childhood.
Speaker 2:I love sandlot I don't know if I've sat down and watched the whole thing. You have homework, because I'm trying to throw something to you right now um the sandlot. I love that movie I just think it's fun. Bad Bad News Bears was good.
Speaker 1:I hated that movie Back in the day, like the original or the remake, I don't know which was which Most people the original's from, like the 60s or 70s. Oh no, no, no, I know you didn't watch that, then the remake, then. You're talking about. That one was even worse. Yeah, that's right, sandlot. So, like back then, like the goofy ones, I loved Sandlot, rookie of the Year Angels in the Outfield.
Speaker 2:There were some fun baseball movies. We talked about this the other day, the baseball movie where he goes and finds the pitcher. What's the name of the movie?
Speaker 1:Oh, he's the scout.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is that what it's called, clint? Eastwood Something like that Top of the Curve. Yes, yeah, that yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was a good movie. Yep, I did like that movie. Justin Timberlake was in that movie of all people, but yeah.
Speaker 2:That's right he was.
Speaker 1:That was a good movie. I did really like that. So to me, baseball movies are some of the best.
Speaker 2:Don't, don't, yeah, don't even go there. I know what you're about to say. I forgot about this. If I watch it, I've got to watch it with Amanda.
Speaker 1:We never have time to sit there and watch it, I guess you'll just have to watch it separately.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:At some point we will, we really will.
Speaker 2:Honestly, probably now it's not going to be as good because it's a little bit older now, of course, so it's going to feel dated a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's any. I mean we were talking At some the 80s movie about Bigfoot and it's like I loved that movie as a kid, but there's no way I could go back and watch it now. It would just be so rough. There's a lot of movies that way, but yeah, so for anybody listening, if you have an easy kind of top five sports movies to you doesn't have to be in order Happy. Gilmore. It's pretty good. So I stayed away from the golf movies because, like 10 cup fantastic never seen it.
Speaker 1:Uh, caddy shack never seen it, I'm gonna throw something at you. Um, what did you just say?
Speaker 2:caddy shack. Oh my gosh, I know every time I tell that to anybody I'm playing golf with, they're like you gotta go watch this so I tried watching it.
Speaker 1:I actually set my dvr it's dated too at this point it.
Speaker 2:It was, it's very, and it's that it's a humor that I'm not a big fan of, bill.
Speaker 1:Murray, it's, it's.
Speaker 2:it's like a stupid, funny and I'm just, I don't know.
Speaker 1:At least you've seen happy Gilmore, at least happy.
Speaker 2:Gilmore is great.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I just kind of stayed away from the golf movies because they're just not really known as well. But yeah, I do like a lot of those which I love sports movies. I think, growing up playing as much sports as we have to me, it's natural just kind of want to watch and go to those movies. But no, I actually really like more of the serious ones better though.
Speaker 2:Remember the Titans Coach Carter. He's a basketball coach up in Virginia. Did you like the uh-huh yeah?
Speaker 1:Yep heard of that one.
Speaker 2:You know the kid that goes and lives with the other family and plays football. You know the rich white family he goes with oh, Blindside, Blindside, Not really yeah, I mean, it was solid.
Speaker 1:It was okay for what it was? A lot of controversy about that movie at this point with all the stuff that's come out.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know, I know.
Speaker 1:So it'd be really hard to go back and watch it now. He claims it's not really the way it was Kind of made him look bad. They both look bad.
Speaker 2:at this point there's a movie that was filmed up in Corbin, kentucky, close to where we lived 23 Blast, I think it was. It was about a kid went to corbin high school there and became blind, I guess, and still played football. So I haven't watched the movie yet, but it's supposed to be really good.
Speaker 1:I think it's more of a christian based movie too, a little bit maybe I don't even think I've heard of that one yeah, it's supposed to be good I did recently watch, speaking of sports movies, the uh zach levy movie where he's playing Kurt Warner. It's kind of the Kurt Warner story. I can't remember what it's called, I had never seen it and I kept seeing clips of it. I was like, oh, I need to watch it because I was a big Rams fan during that period. Just kind of the team you had Kurt Warner and Torrey Holt and Isaac Bruce and Marshall Falk. It was just a fun team to watch. I loved cheering for them. I, isaac Bruce and Marshall Falk, like there was. It was just a fun team to watch, so I loved kind of cheering for them. So yeah, I went back and watched that and I've actually got to meet him. One time he came and spoke over in Asheville.
Speaker 2:Kurt Warner, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was. He was really cool, a lot bigger than I thought he was. You didn't bring that. I even got to really stand there and talk to him. It was kind of just a you know hey like gone it was kind of, as he's going, gotcha Like to me, like I need to be able to like, shake your hand, actually converse, that's meeting to me Okay. So yeah, but yeah, if you guys have any Brian, I want to know your sports movies too, because he likes sports. He would have some.
Speaker 2:He'd probably have some that we'd forget about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe he's a Talladega Knights kind of guy.
Speaker 2:I'm not a big fan of Talladega Knights. It's just too. It's okay.
Speaker 1:That, and Cars is about the only kind of have you ever seen?
Speaker 2:Days of Thunder.
Speaker 1:Tom Cruise? Yeah, I have seen it.
Speaker 2:It wasn't great to me either. That's based on a true story of dylan hart and um somebody I can't remember I don't think it was that really got into it, and yeah, it's one of those like my, my neighbor growing up.
Speaker 1:they're our cousin and they're huge nascar fans. Like really weren't nascar fans after arnhart, like after that they like kind of got out of it, but they were huge NASCAR fans and I remember watching it at their house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Um, it's not a bad movie for the time.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no. That one in.
Speaker 2:Top Gun.
Speaker 1:That's not a sports movie.
Speaker 2:No, it was not, but I mean it's Tom, they were both good. I wasn't expecting to hear that those two movies remind me so much of each other, because Tom Cruise and they're both kind of action, but with a love interest and it kind of feels like the same movie, every Tom Cruise movie ever.
Speaker 1:That's true. Yeah, probably I mean it just kind of feels like it does. I mean, look at Mission Impossible, yeah, like it's the same.
Speaker 2:It's action with a love interest with. Yeah, sorry, tom, your movies are all the same. You know, before we started this, I mentioned the movie moving that you've never seen, never even heard of it. Um, with, uh, who do we say it was richard bryer? Yep, yeah, so now I mean it's funny too, because now I go back and watch these and they have a lot more language than I remember but I feel like ratings were so different, but I feel like when I watched them, they bleeped out a lot of stuff because it'd be on just if you watch on tv though, yeah, so I didn't know that he was in that way watch the actual vhs.
Speaker 1:You know, be kind, rewind blockbuster oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:I know I hadn't seen that in a long time I don't, they were so expensive.
Speaker 1:I miss blockbuster. Blockbuster. If you're listening, you know what you're not because you're dead. David wants a logo, or something.
Speaker 2:Could we bring back something like that?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:It would lose money like crazy.
Speaker 1:Why do you think they went? Bankrupt Somebody's got a lot of money If Redbox went bankrupt.
Speaker 2:I still saw Redbox the other day.
Speaker 1:It was working in the grocery store there's very, very few, and I think they're all on their way out. It might be, I don't know, but yeah. I mean if that can't make it. There's no way an actual store can make it. I want a Blockbuster back.
Speaker 2:There was nothing like going to Blockbuster picking out a movie, video game and they'd have like 15 copies of the new movies and they're all gone. You're looking, you're looking, you're like, come on, because they'd have the box in front of the actual, and then you actually took the back thing yeah most any of the younger crowds definitely not going to know that well, but they've always had streaming it, all right.
Speaker 1:So tomorrow, have you ever talked to your daughter about video stores? Try to explain that to a kid, because they're gonna be like why wouldn't you just turn the tv on and play it? Like, why would you do that? Because even then, you can rent anything you want directly from your TV.
Speaker 2:I mean it's ridiculous. I think at one point we had like a monthly thing where you could get like two movies. Yep, I mean you get as many as you want for the month, but you don't keep and two more, that's what.
Speaker 1:Redbox used to be. That's right. Redbox was a mail-in service before that. Yeah Well this was.
Speaker 2:You actually had to go to the video store and get them, but you could, as long as you had two at a time. Maybe Blockbuster was trying to stay in business when Redbox came out.
Speaker 1:Well, I remember Blockbuster at one point was like movie and they basically were like giving you a voucher for almost like a free pizza I mean it was literally like we're trying anything we can to make some money.
Speaker 2:I remember doing it with video games too, because video games were expensive it was cheaper to rent the video game.
Speaker 1:See if I liked it. Yeah, yeah, or there's a lot of like single player games. I'd get it, beat it and be like I don't have to buy it now, I just send it back how long did you keep it to beat it, or did you just play it like non-stop? It would just depend on what it was which I didn't do a lot. Most of my games I played were sports games as a kid, but if there was something that I was like, I'll try it. It probably wasn't a very long game.
Speaker 2:It was horrible, though, when you got a really good game and you couldn't afford to buy it and it was time to take it back.
Speaker 1:I do remember I was really little and we had a first PlayStation.
Speaker 1:We had a video store here in town called star video and there was a space jam game okay I used to use bugs bunny I'm gonna say michael jordan, not lebron bugs bunny and I can remember he would do this little animation and he'd be like a mail carrier and he was like jump onto the rim, jump onto the backboard and put his whole body through and dunk it and it was just like this, like cartoon arcadey basketball game. I loved it. I thought it was great, but that's when you just you would go in blockbuster and be like, oh, I really like this like cartoon arcade-y basketball game and I loved it.
Speaker 2:I thought it was great. But that's when you just you would go in Blockbuster and be like, oh, I really like this. I just want to renew it for another week or whatever it was, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you didn't even put it back. But then the amount of late fees that people would oh Like you get listen, I've had this movie too long. I ain't going back or you know you.
Speaker 2:You returned one late and you forgot you did, because you remember you could pull in outside.
Speaker 1:They'd have a little drop box outside box, and then the next time you go to rent one, they're like oh yeah, you can't because you have late fees.
Speaker 2:You owe five dollars for your late fees. Like dang it man, it's 10 minutes late.
Speaker 1:You charge me 57. What's going on here? Yeah, I still visit. I really forgot about the video day stores because that was every Friday night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like when I was a really little Blockbuster was a big one Unless we were going to movies, but there was a lot of local ones too that you could go to.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean, like in Shelby we had a family video and then there's Blockbuster and there's all this stuff. We had a Blockbuster here where the dialysis place is. That was Blockbuster. Okay. I remember going in there and it was like every time you go in there a movie to rent was like $6. And you're like I get this for a night and it's that expensive. It was nuts Blockbuster, trying to survive. I liked it, I miss it. I would never go back to something like that. Though Streaming's so easy, we're so lazy as a society.
Speaker 2:It's too easy, it is much easier. Don't even have to leave my couch watch whatever I want I think it's a nostalgic thing, just kind of like you know, miss it.
Speaker 1:Not all old things were good, that's. That's the one thing that was the technology, though that's what we're gonna learn from today's podcast folks. Not all old things are good.
Speaker 2:Some old things are okay I agree, I still miss blockbuster. Well.
Speaker 1:Well, Dave is going to go to bed dreaming about Blockbuster.
Speaker 2:I'm going to wake up thinking I have late fees.
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