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Championship Cheers, Athlete Earnings, and Winter Woes
Ever wondered how the Ohio State Buckeyes clinched their latest championship in the new 12-team playoff format? You're about to uncover the thrilling moments and strategic brilliance that led to their victory over Notre Dame. We'll dissect the game-changing maneuvers, the dominance displayed by Ohio State in the first half, and the struggles of Notre Dame as they leaned heavily on quarterback Riley Leonard, who seemed to run out of steam early. As we celebrate Ohio State's triumph, we'll also ponder the challenges faced by Notre Dame's defense and offensive strategies that fell short of expectations.
Switching lanes, the hot-button topic of NIL deals for college athletes takes center stage, with a spirited debate on whether these young athletes are mere "kids" or savvy entrepreneurs. We'll confront the critics and make a bold case for embracing this evolving landscape, while also acknowledging the need for sensible regulation. Our lively banter doesn't stop there as we stack the SEC against the Big Ten and share some laughs over NFL officiating quirks, all while battling the winter blues and dreaming of sunnier days.
Join us as we explore everything from iconic sports traditions to the quirks of modern parenting in the digital age. We'll uncover the art of flopping in sports, reminisce about legendary athletes, and even touch on the cultural significance of presidential visits. With discussions on college basketball's coaching shake-ups, the rise of pickleball, and the enduring legacy of tennis greats, this episode promises a fun ride through the fascinating world of sports and beyond. Whether you're a die-hard sports fan or just curious about the intersection of athletics and everyday life, there's something here for everyone.
Welcome back to the 9 News Podcast. As you can tell, we are a little excited. We had some cool stuff happen. A couple days ago Very excited, very, very excited so as fans of college football and as fans of Ohio State Buckeyes, we kind of couldn't help ourselves and we just wanted to jump right into it.
Speaker 2:That's right. They finally got a championship again.
Speaker 1:Well, it's been 10 years, Is it 10? They won the initial four-team playoff, so they've now won as soon as they switched the playoffs. The last two times we won when it switched to four, and now we won when it switched to 12. So that's listen. We've got to do it less than 10 years. I need one every four maybe let's keep it a little bit more often, because that's a little bit tough.
Speaker 2:I'm okay with Ryan Day hanging around a little while now, but he's going to have to get another one before 10 more years.
Speaker 1:Well, even I said, after losing Michigan four times, he almost has to win a championship.
Speaker 2:He did Congrats, you're safe he did You'll? Probably get a contract extension. The Last podcast. I was so back and forth on who to pick, but I knew if they come out and played like I know they can, they should win no problem. And that's what they did. I feel like they came out with their foot down and jumped on them quick.
Speaker 1:Well, they started super strong, Like that first half, like well, I'll say this, First time they've been down the entire playoffs, go down seven to nothing. But watching that game I literally was saying to the guy I was watching with they look gassed. Like that opening drive took a lot out of notre dame. Oh it did. Quarterback was hurting. They ran him so many times.
Speaker 2:You know, I was watching and I was like I'm a little confused here because I thought riley leonard was their quarterback but it looked like he was the running back on that that series there. I think it was what nine runs.
Speaker 1:He is definitely more of a feet-first quarterback. He's not one that's a huge, huge arm threat. I mean he can throw the ball don't get me wrong but he's definitely going to beat you more with his feet than anything. But they took like nine minutes on the opening drive drove right down the field and I was like uh-oh, that that's not good. But as they got to the goal line I started to say notre dame looks really tired, like linemen were huffing. Yeah, even the quarterback was like he was slow, getting up on every play it was a struggle.
Speaker 2:I was kind of with you on that a little bit, but watching the way they had to use the quarterback, nine run plays right and he got hit on all of them at the last one correct, and I and I thought they can't keep this up, like that's kind of gimmicky a little bit. I know you can run your quarterback but it's kind of gimmicky and, to be honest with you, I wonder how much that drive affected him throughout the rest of the game, because they hurt him so much on the first drive.
Speaker 1:He got hit a lot. I mean he's not one to really slide much, he's not one to really go down and protect himself. He's trying to always go for extra yards and they hit him several really good ones.
Speaker 2:The sideline reporter said he'd come over getting sick and everything. I guess he'd fell on the ball, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, and he was hobbled a little bit. I don't know if it was a knee, hip, ankle, whatever it was on that right side. You could tell a few times later in the game as he got up. It was a little slow. I mean that that first drive for them was was a good statement, until their defense got on the field and ohio state said we can score a lot faster than you.
Speaker 2:So it's very, very different. If you're depending on your quarterback like that, I'm not doing that first drive. If I need that later in the game I'll do it, but I am not gonna put him like what if he got hurt?
Speaker 1:yeah I mean, then you're done. Notre d Dame has more weapons than I think they really showed, Like the the love kid in the backfield he's a heck of a running back. He was apparently healthiest, he's been all year, yeah, and we didn't really see them run him much, which Ohio State's rush defense is pretty solid. It is They've been susceptible to the pass and fortunately Notre Dame is not a huge pass team. I was actually a little more worried that we may see Notre Dame do more of a two-quarterback system.
Speaker 1:Let that backup come in because the kid can sling it. I mean, he is a true passing quarterback and there's not much film to be able to sit here and say what do we do there? You can't really time him, you can't do all that. So that made me more nervous. But then as the game developed you know, especially that first half I mean it really should have been a blowout, like the foot came off the throttle in the second half, for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they started playing, not to lose I think their second half but not to take. You know I'm not taking any credit away from Ohio State or put Notre Dame down, but watching the game and seeing the camera go to Marcus Freeman and the players, even Riley Leonard, their quarterback I felt like Notre Dame was kind of lost all night. They did not look like they normally look to me.
Speaker 1:First half, especially defensively, and I think Freeman, the Notre Dame coach, said it at halftime like we've got to get them off the field on third down. Yeah, I mean at one point it was like seven of seven or eight of eight on third downs. I mean you can't allow that and expect to win. They were doing what they wanted. But no, I mean Ohio State didn't especially first half, I'll say this didn't commit many penalties, didn't have any turnovers, like they just were playing good football. And in the second half, especially right before Notre Dame, I guess, started to make the run. I felt like we started to see that Ohio State versus Texas and Ohio State versus Michigan and Ohio State. You know, in some of the very early games where we just got like we didn't let our weapons just out and run, I mean there's so many weapons there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it almost felt like they thought they were far enough ahead and good enough, let's just kind of kill the clock. There's no way they can come back.
Speaker 1:Well, it's kind of how it felt late game against Oregon. It did. Yes, we were just like, well, it's over, let's just run the ball a little bit. Three and out doesn't really matter To me. Like just finish it, like come out and score two or three more touchdowns and Notre Dame's going to basically give up Like it's just going to happen.
Speaker 2:So I'm sitting here looking at the scoring by quarter and we talked about how much time Notre Dame took off in the first quarter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, time of possession. First quarter was all Notre Dame.
Speaker 2:Ohio State scored 21 points in the second quarter alone, right Ten in the third and three in the fourth. So you can tell how much that tapered off as the game went on, was it?
Speaker 1:seven in the first.
Speaker 2:None in the first. Oh, that's right, because they didn't score until the second quarter. They scored right after the quarter change. Yeah, because Notre Dame took so much of that first quarter away.
Speaker 1:I remember that because they were actually down seven nothing.
Speaker 2:You went three touchdowns in the second quarter a touchdown, a field goal in. Okay, we got a big enough lead. Let's just kind of coast it on out and make sure we don't lose.
Speaker 1:And I hated that because if they come back, it felt like you know, let's play soft in the secondary, just keep them underneath, nothing big, but we're still letting them drive down the field. And then it felt like we stopped sending pressure Because the opening drive I was sitting there thinking we've got to pressure, like he got some throws off, that we weren't even close to him. And then second drive, they came out here and we sent pressure from everywhere, whether it was one, two, three, whatever it was, it was just nonstop. And I was like, all right, we'll be fine, we're willing to do it. And then second half came back and it was let's sit back in the zone and they just, they really played it well, they brought zone and they just they really played it well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they brought it back, they did. And that's I'm sitting here thinking, you know, we're kind of critiquing that. They let their foot off the gas a little bit, but it worked. I mean, maybe that was their game plan. Let's get up quickly on them and then we can kind of coast on out and make sure we don't lose this thing you know, don't hurt yourself.
Speaker 1:Like because that's the thing, the egg bucca turnover off of a huge play Guy kind of came out of nowhere. That happens another one or two times, I don't care if they score 40. They were going to lose Exactly. That's to me like I don't like to take my foot off because then we're willing to give up momentum, we're willing to give up flow. It gets you out of whack. It's really hard to say well, we're good enough that we can just turn it back on.
Speaker 1:To an extent, yes, but at what point is it? The momentum just too much of a shift and it's hard to come back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, once you kind of slow that down, you can crank it back up, but it may not be the same Right it's not the same level. And I even I think I texted you about it like I loved the play with Smith that they scored the first touchdown on where he starts to come across the backfield, because you can tell Notre Dame like the guy knows it's coming to him, he's waving it, he's saying it's going, it's going, but they all think he's coming across on a sweep or something.
Speaker 2:Well, so they've done that play throughout the year where they have done a sweep on him.
Speaker 1:What's really funny to me, that's the exact same play that Alabama scored on Ohio State in the last national championship. Ohio State was in.
Speaker 2:So In the last national championship Ohio State was in.
Speaker 1:So they just kind of used it on their own. This time it was the exact copy. I mean you could tell the way that the defense was lined up was the same way Ohio State was lined up, the way that they did with Smith. I'm trying to remember. I can't remember what Alabama receiver it was, but it was literally what they did. On the left side he started around like an end around, cut back, they tossed it to him, he went in untouched. Yeah, I mean it was literally the same play and I'm watching the highlight and I'm like that one.
Speaker 1:They remembered, they kept receiving that and was like I'm going to use that because that killed us.
Speaker 2:So they lost a championship with it and they won a championship with it.
Speaker 1:Yes, because that was such a big play I mean especially after Smith having such a I can't really say weak game, the game before it's just he didn't get targets even so it wasn't even really much to do.
Speaker 2:I mean, he got so much attention. I think it opened up some other guys, so he still did his part he just didn't get a lot of catches.
Speaker 1:Well, but if you notice, kind of like I said Notre Dame's going to play man and they said well, we're going to play man, and they did all night. They had the safety cheat his way. Exactly like I said, if they play man because the one one-on-one they did was like third and 11, and it was a 50-something yard gain he just absolutely baited the guy middle field and just kind of faded out and it was easy.
Speaker 2:He's a star for sure.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I'm glad we have him for at least one more that's going to be. They're so deep at skill positions.
Speaker 2:That's kind of another thing that has annoyed me. You talked about one more. I saw comment by uh, I think it was kurt warner, something like yep, does it bother you to watch this game knowing how much ohio state paid for their players? Then I see, after the game I think it was rg3 made, made a statement or, or on social media something that was like um, now we know what it costs to win a championship, or something like that. And it just really bothers me because when you go look it up, well, the numbers that are out there I don't know if all the numbers are correct anyways, because who knows?
Speaker 1:for sure. I'm sure we're not getting all the real numbers. I mean, there's just no way, and that's across the board, not just Ohio State but the numbers that we know.
Speaker 2:Texas and Oregon supposedly paid more for their teams. Correct, Ohio State beat them. Notre Dame wasn't far behind them. And again, these are numbers.
Speaker 1:we think we know that wasn't the media saying that all week? All week it was look how much Ohio State's paying. And then this little Notre Dame is coming in trying to beat them. Oh, I know, and it's like hang on.
Speaker 2:That's not the case.
Speaker 1:Every big program is like $20 million at this point. Nobody is not. We talked about this a little bit last week.
Speaker 2:Players have been getting some compensation for years. Yes, maybe it's not been to that extent, maybe it's been other things, whatever. So this isn't new anyways, and every school is doing it, it ain't just there goes our buddy uh, it isn't just just Ohio State or just the big name schools or whatever.
Speaker 1:No, the smaller schools are doing it.
Speaker 2:It's all these for lack of a better term, old school guys who don't want kids to be paid in college, and it's really getting on my nerves, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1:So I can see that a little bit more with Kurt Warner because he's a little more older To me for RG3, it almost just sounds like jealousy. He didn't get paid like, so you know like if he was in this position now, the way he was at baylor, he would be one of the. He would be the carson beck six million, you know, at miami yeah, he would.
Speaker 1:He would be getting those huge four million, whatever it is, he'd be getting those huge numbers. So, yeah, in college he would love that. Because then when he went to the nfl he was around a while but he was only really a star for a year and then got some injuries and really wasn't the same. So the money wasn't presented to him the same way. But whether you like it or not because again I'm one of those I'm not crazy about the money that's being thrown around because it's just right now. It's being thrown around with no purpose. It's just if you got it, you throw it and it's done.
Speaker 1:But unfortunately it's the way it is right now. I don't think you can say, oh, they won because they spent a bunch of money. I would love to go back and look at the top 12 teams, these 12 playoff teams. How much NIL money was there?
Speaker 2:Ohio.
Speaker 1:State's not 50% of it.
Speaker 2:No, it's not crazy. They're all up there, and that's the thing too. Yes, they went out and got a quarterback and a few players, but they spent a lot of that money just keeping their players there. And why does Ohio State have to pay that much to keep their players there? Because everybody else is offering that much to leave, so it's not like it's just them.
Speaker 1:They went out and got a quarterback. That was a career backup. It's not like they went and bought the best one out there. Don't get me wrong. Will Howard played fantastic this year. He's exactly what they needed. They needed a little bit mobile. That still was pass first. They needed that kind of guy seniority. You knew what he was doing, but he's like a three-star out of high school. If that was a backup. Every single year of his career he ended up being a starter at some point, but it was due to an injury or something. He was never the picked starter until he came to Ohio State.
Speaker 1:Yeah so like it's not, like they even really had to pay him a huge number.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they didn't go out and buy the best quarterback out there to go win a championship. No, if they were going to do that, they'd have bought Cam Ward. Like if you're going to say the best. Probably throwing quarterback that was up for sale would have been cam war but so that just really got on my nerves and we've talked in the past, you know kind of how we feel about nil and of course, there definitely needs to be some changes. So if you want to get our opinions on that, that's in some other episodes.
Speaker 1:I don't want to keep repeating don't get me down that road.
Speaker 2:I know I don't want to keep going over and over, but the fact is, this is where it's at. Okay, if you're a coach, a fan, a player, whatever, and you don't like it, then go on like you don't have to be part of it, like this is where we're going, and the narrative I keep hearing is all these young kids getting this money? These young kids, first of all, these ain't kids.
Speaker 1:No, I mean they're.
Speaker 2:They're by law, they're an adult they're, they're over 18, you're talking 18 except for the kid from alabama. He's received that's right, he was only 17, 17 like the end of the year, which is crazy, but you're talking typically kids from 18 to 24 years old.
Speaker 1:Some. I mean, we keep seeing these. I'm in my ninth year of college eligibility and I'm like when did college become this? Let's go there and hang out Like we have like seven and eight year starters, and I'm like how does that work? So I mean some of these kids are 26.
Speaker 2:does that work? So I mean I mean some of these kids are 26.
Speaker 1:I don't know that I have a problem with it, I mean no, but it's just. It's just, like you know, we're talking about these kids. Some of these kids are literally 24, 25, 26 years old.
Speaker 2:Like that's not a child in every other aspect of life for some reason, except college. They're adults right like. If they can go to a trade school, they can go out be a job, they can go to the military, they can, you know, go be uh first responders. There's all these things. They can go to a trade school, they can go out and be a job, they can go to the military. They can, you know, go be a first responder.
Speaker 1:There's all these things they can do, but we don't consider them that until they either go to the NFL or leave college altogether.
Speaker 2:But when you go to college, now, all of a sudden you're a kid. No, you're an adult, you're in a business.
Speaker 1:Like that's what you, that's your business. I, that side of it, I'm just to me running a business. You gotta have contracts, you gotta have, you gotta have something that stipulates how the money is handled. Because right now there's you know no reason to go play. These guys get this money and it's like all right. Well, you can't pull it from me like I mean, they're, they're getting all this basically guaranteed upfront stuff. Like it's hard to say. Well, you know what you hard to say how you do it.
Speaker 2:Talking about that, I don't know how that even works without contracts or without being able to say what you made, because when you start making money, there's taxes involved and all this different stuff. So you're right on that Something's got to change.
Speaker 1:I think there's still some backdoor stuff obviously. I'm sure here's the thing, the way that all this has always worked. You have some teams that have more money, some teams that have more goods, some teams that try to pull in whatever else they can to make it worth it, and there's always regulations and teams always get in trouble for breaking those regulations. There's still technically NIL regulations, but I guarantee half these teams are breaking them. It's the way they trouble for breaking those regulations, like they're still technically nil regulations, but I guarantee half these teams are breaking no, yeah, that's just it's the way they do it they're not the rules change over the time, they just.
Speaker 1:They still mess them up and here's it.
Speaker 2:It doesn't matter what the rule is. Teams are going to push the limit, of course like you know, that's every sport every well, it's racing or whatever you're doing, you're pushing the limit to try to be the best you try to bend the rules and not break them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the whole. That's what everybody always does exactly.
Speaker 2:So don't mean to get too much on a soapbox there, but it bothers me to see these people coming out and and basically saying oh, this is why they won, this is why they did. When they lost to michigan, nobody was saying, oh well, they didn't pay enough. This, this is why.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know you got to go both ways with it, but here's the thing they want to talk about. Well, they bought a championship. They got beat by Oregon earlier in the year. Like they avenged that loss thankfully, like that's fantastic, but Oregon is paying too.
Speaker 2:I mean they're paying a lot more than Ohio State.
Speaker 1:with the numbers, I don't think reported wise is is more, but I think everybody knows it's there for a while. The rumor was uh, oregon had a blank check. I mean they're they're in the same town of Nike where the. Nike headquarters are. They are a Nike sponsor. They have more jerseys than everybody. I mean to me the selling point back in the early 2000s. Go to Oregon. We have 400 uniforms. You know we can't technically give you money but we've got a million of these we can give you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, they were. You know, everybody knew back in Oregon. They were the ones coming out with the cool helmets and different jersey layouts.
Speaker 1:They had alternate logos, they had alternate. I mean, it was everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were the cool football. But what's crazy is that was Chip Kelly, who's Ohio State's offense coordinator now.
Speaker 1:But even before him. Like I can remember growing up playing the college football games on PlayStation, Xbox, whatever it was, like, I don't know, 2008, 2009,. You wanted to play with Oregon because every time you went to go change uniforms, you just kept sitting there clicking. I mean, they just kept going and going and going.
Speaker 1:Everybody else had a home and away, like Oregon had like 10 or 15. And that I mean that's you're talking way back in the days of like Dwayne Dixon and guys that like You're going way back. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is like mid to late 2000s or maybe even earlier. I can't even remember it at the point that he was there.
Speaker 2:But it was very, very enticing to come there for some of that stuff. Well, like I said, I don't want to just sit and dwell on this too much, because I do want to circle back a little bit, because last week we talked about it and then we put out our scores. We did, and I had a tough time picking last week, but somebody thought Notre Dame might beat them.
Speaker 1:I did. I was that somebody. So, honestly, let me do this. I don't want to get too far off of it, but this is going to take me to my love it and hate it of the week. Okay, let's go, because I have a love it and it's probably the first time that I'm going to love this and maybe the last time. But I wrote this down and I was even laughing at myself when I wrote it.
Speaker 1:I love the fact that I was wrong. I love the fact that the Buckeyes didn't come out, lay an egg and just make a crappy game out of it, kind of like I felt they did a little bit against Texas, like they did not feel like the same team the way they did against Michigan, like we watched that Michigan game. It's like this is not Ohio State, like this team is a joke. Right now they're not willing to do anything offensively. So for me, on the week, I loved the fact that we weren't necessarily great all year but ended up winning a championship with a team that definitely was the best team in college football To me. There's no question there's too many weapons, offensive and defensive. They are good every position, yeah. So I love the fact that I wrongly picked Notre Dame to win who they are a good team, don't get me wrong, but Ohio State was just too strong.
Speaker 2:And I love that he was wrong as well.
Speaker 1:You just love that I'm wrong.
Speaker 2:I love when you're wrong but even more in this situation.
Speaker 1:That's the most thing for you. You just love me being wrong, I mean.
Speaker 2:I am looking. So you picked Notre Dame to win 24-21. So you had a three-point game. You thought it was going to be a close game.
Speaker 1:I thought it was going to be close regardless.
Speaker 2:Actually, I think the 11-point win I was a little more surprised about yeah, I was finding myself with was the Buckeyes winning by four. I got you. That's kind of where I saw it coming, so I wasn't off either. Brian actually had the biggest spread, so I was at 27-23 is what I expected and then Brian actually picked a little bit 31-24. So he had a seven-point win.
Speaker 2:So he was pretty close though close, though we were all kind of close to the scores a little bit um, but end up being a little bit bigger difference than I think any of us expected so well, I was glad to see that.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to see paul had texted me or no, had commented on on facebook, um, about his prediction and I want to say he was like 31, 17 or he was a little bit bigger, so he saw a little bit yeah, he was picking ohio state as well. You know him as an alabama fan. He didn't really have a dog in the fight at this point, so he's already saying it's basketball season. He's been saying that since, I guess, the selection show. Uh, we're already into basketball, we're not worried. We're not worried about football anymore.
Speaker 2:We're a basketball school you know I did see um what. Three years in a row, big Ten, or two years and three years since the SEC, I think, has won one. Yes, right, so that's kind of odd. I don't think my opinion of the SEC football has changed much. I still think they're all really good, but they just couldn't get to the end.
Speaker 1:To me it's like I've said a few times, I think now For SEC it feels like they are better across the board. They've got some times where they are the best, but I feel like top to bottom they're by far the toughest conference. Like the Big Ten, there was four big teams we can call it five big teams, that's it. Everything past them pretty rough.
Speaker 2:Was there five.
Speaker 1:Well, so you had Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon, Indiana.
Speaker 2:Oh, indiana, I don't count them.
Speaker 1:They were in the playoffs. This year is what I'm counting.
Speaker 2:I never believed in them, not one moment this year. Don't count them. They're in the playoffs. No, no, no. This year is what I'm counting.
Speaker 1:I never believed in them, not one moment. This entire year, this year, I'm counting them.
Speaker 2:Once they met somebody good, they didn't have a chance. They were done. Sorry, Indiana fans.
Speaker 1:I guess four right now, and typically you're going to say Michigan.
Speaker 2:On most years Michigan.
Speaker 1:So if you had included Michigan this year you'd have five. But past that Big Ten's pretty weak. I mean SEC. You can name eight, nine teams pretty quick.
Speaker 2:I still wonder if that hurts the SEC, because they're beating up on each other all year. Are they just not as healthy, not as good when they get to the postseason stuff? Because?
Speaker 1:none of them really done any good when they got there. Well, I mean, you had some different SEC that was in the playoff. This year, though, you had a Georgia without a starting quarterback. You had Texas, who's a first-year.
Speaker 2:SEC. They don't play like an SEC team, that's a little bit different.
Speaker 1:Tennessee's still a very young team. I think they're going to be a dangerous team in a few years, but I just feel like them right now. They're still really young. I mean at quarterback they're super young, but he's going to be a stud. I mean he's impressive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm already excited for next year. Like I want college football to start back right now.
Speaker 1:Let's go. Yeah, I mean we opened the season Ohio state, texas. Oh, that'd be fun, like uh. There's a few like big opening week games. I can't remember all of them.
Speaker 2:None of these teams are going to look the same next year, so no, no, they're all going to be so so different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for the most part. For the most part how it ended. I love Ohio State Championship, but I'm also sad that it's over, Because that's a big part of it. Now I am excited Because we're almost into January. Already. March Madness is right around the corner, it is coming up, it's coming close. But before, yeah, what are we halfway through? Before I get to March Madness, I did my love it of the week. I need your hate it, I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, I need that real quick. What? Is that you know.
Speaker 2:No, this we gotta go there.
Speaker 1:We gotta go there this week.
Speaker 2:I. You know there's always lots of things I could pick.
Speaker 1:There are plenty of things he hates On a daily basis, but that's not questioning.
Speaker 2:We all do. I just Tell mine out loud, more than most people probably. Um. So yeah, this week it's been a little slower week. You know, we got past the college world championship.
Speaker 1:It's been extremely cold around here for our area it's been brutally cold.
Speaker 2:We don't typically get this no, we've been down in what single digits at night a little bit for about a week and a half.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like it's been pretty rough yeah, it's uh yeah, my wife woke up this morning. She said on her way to work it was three. I'm like, yeah, no thanks, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm good I can, um I, I know you actually lost your voice for a few days.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm still a little raspy.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to come back from it Right now. I'm I'm struggling over. We've been in for several days, um. So I had several things on my mind. I thought what about this, what about that? And I was kind of going this way and then change of mind. I thought no, I walked outside one day this is what I hate this cold weather and if you know me, you know me, I'm ready for spring, I'm ready to move south. I don't something I hate cold weather move south.
Speaker 1:Right now they're getting more snow than we are.
Speaker 2:Well, that's true they are, but are, but it's still not as cold as the thing. I mean, it's got to be cold enough for snow. I did see like what 10 inches down in Florida.
Speaker 1:Yeah, some of these areas got. So I saw pictures of Broadway at the beach down in Myrtle Beach covered A family friend of ours. He is visiting some of his family at the beach has pictures of him making a snowman on the sand. Oh my gosh and I'm like that's not normal, like if you're telling me that's a beach up north. You know one of the, you know jersey, and yeah, I can understand that okay cool, I get that, but he's, I want to say, in one side, I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't think he's on the gulf, I think he's, I think he's's on um the coast side of he's not on the Gulf of America. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:We'll go there in a minute.
Speaker 1:Hang on, let's let's, let's finish our thoughts, I guess. So, uh, I could go anywhere, but uh, yeah.
Speaker 2:Snowman on the beach, love it when it's cold, and like, oh, you can just put jackets on. But no, I don't want jackets, I don't want gloves, I don't want earmuffs. And I then? My face is still cold, I'm still breathing cold air, I can't move, I'm miserable. I want to put on my shorts, my t-shirt and go enjoy the weather, not not snow, not cold so that, stop it.
Speaker 1:That is one thing that me and you will 100 million percent always agree on, anytime. There's that argument of would you rather be, you know, a hundred degrees, or rather be 20 degrees, 100, make it 110. I don't care, I'd much rather be hot than cold. I would too, like I understand, like the. The brutal heat can be miserable. It's draining, you're sweating, you know whatever. But I hate the cold so much, like I hate, like your hands get stiff, your, your body, you're like, you don't want to do anything, you can't function. No, it's just it's not fun.
Speaker 2:Anybody that likes the cold weather, like I don't know how they do it, Like far up North when it gets really, really cold and tons of snow, and I mean.
Speaker 1:Paul. Paul lived in Wisconsin for a long time. Yeah, he's talking about like, oh, this is nothing. He's out in shorts and a t-shirt, I'm sure.
Speaker 2:We're Buckeyes fans. We've talked about it. We love that they won the championship.
Speaker 1:I don't want to live there.
Speaker 2:If you said here's free tickets to every game if you move here. No, thank you.
Speaker 1:I couldn't do it Well I that it's just too cold I. I don't function well there.
Speaker 2:um, you know, because we had talked about going to the pga show, uh down in orlando right now but it's cold down there, it's cold for that area for sure, it's kind of like rainy and because I mean obviously, you know, not amusedused podcast.
Speaker 1:We're sponsored by 4U Golf, which is a top tracer range and top tracer holds a big event at the PGA show. They do it in a big award ceremony. They hold it at one of the big top golf right down there in Orlando and so we're like, oh yeah, we'd love to go to that. You know, obviously just wasn't able to make it this year just between some different commitments and you know all the different stuff. But it's way colder down there than what we, when we were talking about going, what we planned on.
Speaker 2:I don't know that we would have enjoyed it that much with the weather. We're still not as much.
Speaker 1:I mean, yes, we're gonna enjoy the weather would have definitely hurt it's definitely not the you know 50s, you know it's, it's still 30s, like yeah, it's way colder than what I think of when I think of florida, for sure?
Speaker 2:no, I don't want that. If I, if I move somewhere again and I'm going to warmer weather, I'm gonna go pretty far south. I'm gonna go way on down there I haven't looked, you know what?
Speaker 1:where's it? Where's kind of the the stop of the snow in florida right now uh, miami was still pretty warm that's miami. I mean that's way down.
Speaker 2:That's a little different. I guess Not amused of Miami.
Speaker 1:That's a big move, let's go. So me and my wife actually took a cruise from Miami for our honeymoon. We got married in Kingsport. So that drive to Miami, that was a trip. That was the worst part about it. I had a much if. If I could do it again, I'd find some richer, rich aunt, uncle or whatever you know, give me some plane tickets, cause this, this was a long trip. That was a hard trip. You know, after the wedding, like you're just, you're tired, you know, you're just, it's a long, it's a big event. So then to have to drive all the way down there was not fun.
Speaker 2:I kind of kid about it because I don't think if I went, I don't think I'd go to Miami. You know, I don't want to be in a big city. Nobody goes to Miami. You live outside of it but I mean I love where we live, but when get this cold.
Speaker 1:That's what's a little bit hard Like. We're not typically this cold. We get a small stretch in January, usually about a week, but we're on like three weeks now and it's time for it to go. Yeah, like I'm good, like let's get some spring weather, let's get back to a golf course.
Speaker 2:So speaking of cold, yeah, speaking of cold. How about the Kansas City Chiefs?
Speaker 1:We're going down that road.
Speaker 2:I don't know why that's speaking of cold Well so that's one thing I've been seeing all week.
Speaker 1:You know they play Buffalo. Who's used to cold in Buffalo, new York, obviously, but Kansas City we've seen some bitter cold games there the past few years. That's a weird area there's just it's so open and it just gets cold. Everything freezes like it's.
Speaker 2:It's miserable well, the weirdest thing I saw. I saw a picture after the game um patrick mahomes and like one of the head officials were swapping jerseys or something you know, oh, you just jumped right into it like we weren't even gonna like walk ourselves in, we just jumped.
Speaker 1:we're just jumping into it Like we weren't even going to like walk ourselves in.
Speaker 2:We just jumped both feet. We're just jumping into it because Well, because when I was saying cold.
Speaker 1:I thought you were talking about the hands in the officials' pockets when Buffalo had the ball because they're not going to throw a penalty on Kansas.
Speaker 2:City. Is that what it is? Yeah, it was a little different thought. I didn't realize they were cold. I just thought, you know, they weren't going to throw a bag, that's the excuse I can't throw a flag.
Speaker 1:My hands were cold, I couldn't grab it that makes sense.
Speaker 2:No, there's a lot of talk about it and you told me Patrick Mahomes came out and said he doesn't think there's bias in their favor.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you're better just keep your mouth shut. I think now's not the time to come out and be like oh the officials don't give us anything Like don't check my bank accounts. They don't give us anything.
Speaker 2:The only person that should be able to say that with a straight face would be like maybe a fourth of the Kansas City fans, because even the rest of the three-fourths of them should even realize it themselves.
Speaker 1:I just think you watch any Chiefs highlight and I don't feel like this has just been a couple weeks. This feels like all year. It feels like the NFL.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's been even before this year.
Speaker 1:And probably I'm just trying to think of more this year alone has been more noticeable. But Kansas City, it feels like they're trying to be pushed as the modern-day Patriots. The NFL needs this one team to back and push, and they didn't really have it for a couple years. And then, all of a sudden, you know, we've made Mahomes the poster boy. We've made Kansas City this, you know, trying to push them as a dynasty. They are not the Patriots of Tom Brady and Belichick, like that was different. Now don't get me wrong. Andy Reid's a fantastic coach. He's done really well here. He did really well in Philadelphia. But some of these calls even the announcers at this point, are starting to be like all right, what are we doing here? It's getting a little ridiculous.
Speaker 2:I was going to call them the Cowboys of the 90s or something, but even then I don't think they got the officials help, they just had a lot of stars. This is you know. There are so many penalties that maybe are close to penalties, but then you see, it happen to other teams. You know, if you barely touch the balls, it feels like.
Speaker 2:And you know, if a guy extends his arms out and pushes him down, fine, that's a penalty if the ball's been gone, but then when you see the other quarterback get just drilled after the ball's gone, okay, come on, make it make sense.
Speaker 1:You're still on my line there. I used that like 10 times last week.
Speaker 2:Did you? Well, I haven't heard you say it yet, so I thought I'd throw it in there.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to conserve my speaking, I guess.
Speaker 2:Oh, is that what it is? Okay? Yeah, I'm leaving my qu NFL fan Shocker. We've said that before, but it's I do like the playoffs.
Speaker 1:It's just, it's always a different feel. So.
Speaker 2:I just can't watch it when I feel like I'm not going to say it's rigged, but when it feels weird, it's tough to watch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you want to talk about rigged taking, taking a safety late game to not cover the spread. That feels a little questionable. Okay, so I've seen especially like you talk about little kids peewee football. I've seen that play. Because they don't punt, we can't count on the snap. We can't count on the punter to catch it. We can't count on a good kick. So yeah, we don't want to give it away, so let's get our fastest kid, but you do it at the end of the game too Right, they had what 14, 15?
Speaker 2:I think 15 seconds left.
Speaker 1:I don't know exactly what. They had quite a bit of time.
Speaker 2:When he stepped out. Okay, so you can punt the ball to the other team with 15 seconds left. So they're going to, if they fair, catch it. Okay, they got no. But I mean some of those punters hang time is like four or five seconds.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you snap it. He's going to just put one high. Yeah, it's a what? Nine point game. At that point, is it a 10 point game?
Speaker 2:I don't remember exactly what it was. It was somewhere around there, I think it. But yeah, so Hunter kicks it. Fair catch. 10 seconds to go, 11 seconds to go, somewhere in that range.
Speaker 1:If that, yeah, I think it's probably less, but still Two-score game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they run out of the back of the end zone with 11 seconds to go. So you gave them two points and you're still kicking to them with 11 seconds to go.
Speaker 1:As a one-possession game. Yeah, Like touchdown and two-point conversion. Now we're talking about a whole different ballgame.
Speaker 2:That doesn't make any sense. No, and like you said, when it's so close to the spread, like that, it feels odd.
Speaker 1:I need to call Brad about this because that's one thing I wanted to ask him about what his thoughts were on it, because he's definitely more of an NFL guy. But it just felt very weird because it didn't even feel like they ran around a bunch. It didn't feel like they were trying to waste a bunch of time. He caught that ball and got terrified when people were running at him and he went straight out of the end zone like it wasn't even really delayed okay, so it was 23 12 when they went out of the end zone 11 11 point game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they made it a 9 point game.
Speaker 1:A 9 point game Fine, it's still a two possession game, but what does that save you?
Speaker 2:The time doesn't make sense If there's 10 seconds left and you can run around in the end zone for 10 seconds and then step out. You just ended the game.
Speaker 1:Fine, it doesn't do anything but it's the NFL You're going to're gonna say, well, what if they block the punt, score touchdown, get an onside kick? You're talking about a lot of stuff that's got to go right like a lot of stuff. And here's my thing if you think the guy might get through, hold him. What are they gonna do back up a few yards? You've ran time off the clock run time with the clock like hold everybody on the field.
Speaker 1:If you got to punt it, run the time, because they can't put time back on. They may not do the mandatory runoff, but they can't put it back on. I would do that five times in a row. Run the clock out that way yeah like you're gonna say, oh, that's against. You know the game well. If you're willing to run out for a safety like what's, what's the point?
Speaker 2:no, I agree and I have no problem with the play call. I've seen it happen. Teams practice it. There's certain times for it way less time that didn't feel right for the time well, so it feels like to me.
Speaker 1:Which game did we watch? Arizona State against BYU? Was it when it's fourth down? There's only a couple seconds, there's maybe five seconds left, and the idea was throw it as high and far as you can out of bounds.
Speaker 1:Yeah kill time. He threw it out of bounds and it hit the railing in the stands with a second left. So they gave the ball away and byu had a chance for hail mary to win. And I'm like, at what point are we making the decision? Because we think, oh, everybody's gonna think I'm really smart for this. Why not just make the right decision, like there's five seconds left, punt the ball out of bounds Like direct snap to your running back, run straight backwards. There's only a couple seconds left. I feel like you can play it so much smarter.
Speaker 2:It just didn't feel like the right time for that play Too much time on the clock.
Speaker 1:It's probably partially just the chief hatred that we have now. It could be Now. I'll say this it's probably partially just the chief hatred that we have now Could be Now. I'll say this it's smart. Brad will be very happy. I'm about to use this reference. It's like wrestling. You don't want to have no feeling towards a team. You either want to love them or you want to hate them. You need, right now, kansas City is either loved by their fan base and they are loved by their fan base or you hate them, same way the Patriots were. You either loved them or you hated them. So they're being billed correctly as far as there's not much middle ground. They don't want that because you won't tune in if you have no middle ground, you either tune in because you want to watch them win or you tune in hoping they lose.
Speaker 2:So I guess that part's smart, but I just feel like there's a better way to do it. So when you watch it, does it feel like they're getting better treatment from the refs and the nfl in general?
Speaker 1:I feel like they've had the same refs a lot this year, um, and I feel like, like this last game, they called a unnecessary roughness when mahomes went to slide. They hit each other, they didn't even hit him oh, I know, I saw that even the announcers are like all right, what like?
Speaker 1:and why are we? And and I did see a good point come up from it we review so much already and it's not reviewed by the guys on the field, it's reviewed by the group in new york. Yeah, why can't every unsportsmanlike conduct be reviewed? Oh, those should be like immediately. Like there's not that many of those in your penalty.
Speaker 2:It should be reviewable, yeah what I hate about them calling that against any quarterback. That's like this. But my homes is terrible about fake siding. If you're gonna side, then take what you get.
Speaker 1:So Mahomes, earlier in the year faked that he was going to run out of bounds. But you're going to throw a penalty if you hit the quarterback when he's giving himself up out of bounds, like even before he stepped out. If you hit him, and he's going to do it so, like at this point, you've got to nail every quarterback at the sideline.
Speaker 2:He did that in this game.
Speaker 1:He was going out of bounds and he slowed up right before he stepped out just so the guy would run into him.
Speaker 2:Then he just flopped down the middle.
Speaker 1:Now, thankfully they didn't throw a penalty on that one.
Speaker 2:No, but you can see what his antics are.
Speaker 1:I did see somebody made a comment on Instagram. How dare you compare him to the GOAT Tom Brady? How dare you compare him to the GOAT Tom Brady? Like Tom Brady, they show this play Tom Brady running down the field, just gets his head taken off and literally his helmet shot 20 yards backwards. He stood up, put his helmet on, never came out, and then they show Mahomes from this past weekend flopping out of bounds.
Speaker 2:And they're like how dare you put them in the same mention? Now, I have to say, since we're talking about this because we're fans of it, will Howard had a little bit of a flop himself in that game.
Speaker 1:Oh, 100%. Yeah, I'm not quite. And I hate flopping. I hate it Like I can never get behind the game of soccer, especially men's soccer. All they do you get near somebody, you breathe on them, fall, grab my ankle, grab my knee, grab my buddy's knee, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Like everybody's hurt all the time.
Speaker 1:It's ridiculous. The difference with the one with howard is I do think it was a penalty because he pushed off. You know, when you extend your arms that's a show, so that. But that one to me, like he, he definitely played it up some, yeah, but it was so far after the throw it was like, yeah, you can't even touch, but that, yeah, like you're too close to him at this point. But that as far as quarterbacks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that goes to show quarterbacks especially, but I think it's in receivers and everybody. They're almost taught to. I don't know if flop's the word, but play it up a little bit, make it look a little worse than it is, because if you don't, the ref may not see it, and so they're trying to get the attention and say, hey, look what happened. So I don't mind if they embellish a little bit if it's an actual penalty, but don't be trying to get a penalty. That's not there.
Speaker 1:But you see the linemen all the time anymore. Like there was one I can't remember which game it was it was either. No, it was an NFL game. We were watching Baltimore and Buffalo. Me and Amanda were on the couch watching it, and you know it's an NFL game. We were watching Baltimore and Buffalo. Me and Amanda were on the couch watching it, and you know it's a heated game. Those are two really good teams.
Speaker 1:There's a little bit of pushing and shoving. Well, the defensive tackle in the guy's face kind of hooks him, pulls him onto him, so it looks like the guy is just like tackling him. Fortunately, the ref actually handled it perfectly. He's standing right there and you can see him kind of smirking, just shaking his head, kind of like waving him to get up. And I'm like I'm so glad that that wasn't caught like out of the corner of an eye and they're automatically throwing a flag. But that's what happens Because, like, when I go back and watch the replay, I'm like that looked awful, like you could tell you bumped into him, hooked him with one, pulled his arm with the other right on top of you. Like you're trying really hard just for a penalty yeah, I think that happens just try hard to play football a lot of that happens in every.
Speaker 2:You are not an actor. Yeah, no basketball football it's all bad pulling on each other make it look like the other guy did it. Let me flop on the ground.
Speaker 1:All of you people that talk about you know this whole goat discussion of LeBron James. You can't flop that much and be the goat.
Speaker 2:I'll just be honest with you. I'm a hundred percent with you on that one there.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, speaking of goat, I saw a graphic two days ago. It's so. He's talking about top 10 baseball players of all time.
Speaker 2:I'm sitting here going. Where are we going on goats, because you never know here, greatest of all time.
Speaker 1:I'm not onto the animals.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I actually don't mind goats, they're really not that bad.
Speaker 2:What about the fainting goats? I always wanted one of those they crack me up.
Speaker 1:They really do.
Speaker 2:I feel like it'd be really bad for it. All the time You'd be scaring it all the time just to get it to faint.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just to get it to faint, because you watch those videos like that's hilarious.
Speaker 2:That has to be a miserable life for a goat.
Speaker 1:Every little thing you spend it's an animal though, like it doesn't have the same thought, the same everything. But yes, it's still a very weird mechanic for an animal. It's like, oh, I'm going to play possum right here, but I'm a goat, so I can't really hide.
Speaker 2:I have a cool. I have a good possum story man. I had a huge possum At my house the other night. Looked like a dog.
Speaker 1:You sent me the picture of that. That thing has been Fat and happy somewhere.
Speaker 2:It found my. He has been eating. Well, he found my big bag of dog food, so it looked as big as your dog.
Speaker 1:It was, wasn't as, but as far as size and circumference it was massive.
Speaker 2:I tried to scare it off and it just looked at me. He didn't care. I left. I was like I'll come back later and see if he's gone. He was, but he had his head down on my big dolphin leg. I'm going to let you eat.
Speaker 1:I'm going to leave you alone. You're scaring me.
Speaker 2:I got sharp little teeth.
Speaker 1:I feel like they could definitely mess you up later, don't worry about it. Back to goats. I saw this graphic and it was a couple of guys talking about the top 10 baseball players ever and on both of the guys list two guys in the top 10, 80% on both lists were old time guys. I mean, you're talking your Babe Ruth, lou Gehrig, your old, old guys I don't know're talking. You know your Babe Bruce Lou Gehrig's, your old, old guys.
Speaker 2:I don't know how you compare guys that old from the old era to today's.
Speaker 1:But that's where. That's where it got me thinking. It went straight to basketball for me, cause you know, there's argument of Jordan LeBron. Where does Kobe fall in? Where does you know where'd all these guys fall in? But the argument against Jordan is all the time.
Speaker 1:Well, he played against a bunch of plumbers and these guys that weren't very good. But then we start talking about baseball and we would say these guys were the greatest ever. But none of the leagues were as talented as far as across the board there was really good players and they guys like that could translate, no matter when they play. Put Jordan in today's league, he would be a different player, but he'd still be one of the greatest, if not the greatest, because those type of guys are going to to put the work in. They're just, they're just, they're just better. It's just the way they are. So I'm not saying they wouldn't be good, but, for whatever reason, I'm like all right, baseball is the only one that would truly recognize all these old guys as being some of the best. Because, like you get into football and we talk about all these guys are really good, but they couldn't make it today. It's like well, they would just have to play different.
Speaker 2:But yeah, they probably could, it's just different but do you think, talking about baseball, the guys from several years ago, can they hit off of these pitchers this year? No shot.
Speaker 1:I don't think so either. I think if they grew up in the same time, I still think they'd be some of the greats because they're going to adapt to it. But if you took prime Babe Ruth, who grew up in his era against I'm not even gonna say some of the studs of our era, just some, you know, normal good pitchers there's no way they're hitting some of that movement like the guys nowadays. Everything is they spin the ball so much, they have so much rotation, so much movement it's so hard for me to sit here and say that they're going to hit some of these sliders that are moving 21 inches. We've talked about it.
Speaker 2:That might be the most difficult sport is baseball.
Speaker 1:trying to hit a ball In my mind the hardest thing to do in any sport is hit a baseball. Not just somebody soft toss Somebody throwing live at bat baseball. I don't think there's anything harder in any sport.
Speaker 2:I think baseball. You have such a traditionalist involved.
Speaker 1:I agree.
Speaker 2:They're just so stuck on that.
Speaker 1:It's one of the few sports saying don't change us. It is Leave us where we are, don't change us.
Speaker 2:And they've got all these unwritten rules that you're supposed to abide by. I think that's part of it.
Speaker 1:There's no such thing as an unrule to me. No, me neither, if it's not wrote down. It ain't a rule Like I'm not following that.
Speaker 2:No, guys get mad over the silliest things and you know you flip a bat the wrong way when you hit a home run and a home run and next thing the guy's hitting you with a nine-pounder Again.
Speaker 1:I'm not as crazy about some of the huge celebration stuff, but you know it's part of it. I don't mind some of the bat flipping. You're going to war against that pitcher. I won. You're going to beat me sometimes.
Speaker 2:If you don't want me to flip the bat, strike me out At least don't let me hit a home run.
Speaker 1:These really good hitters. They're hitting three out of ten times. Like, the pitchers are winning more often than not, so like, of course, they're excited when they when they get a win. Why wouldn't you?
Speaker 2:well, I had no idea you're gonna bring this up. Um, I told you so, my daughter starting to work with a new pitching coach, right, and he uh back in the 90s uh was drafted, uh I don't think ever made to quite major league but we'll play some triple a ball and stuff like that. And he said he was against a batter once and a guy hits a home run or whatever on him and he's like man, I shouldn't have threw that slider. And another pitcher comes to me and says no, no, no, you shouldn't have threw the slider, you just should have threw a better slider, gotcha. And it made me think about that in that way Placement.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So if you're a pitcher and you're upset that he's slipping the bat or whatever, throw a better pitch. Throw a better pitch. Like you can't get upset. Like if you strike him out you can be excited. You struck him out Like stop with this. You know we can't show any emotion and this is rude and you know.
Speaker 1:Well, that's the thing I mean in life in general, everywhere you look. Even since I was a kid, like everyone has been more okay with emotion in so many things. But then we get to baseball and it's like there's this really fine line.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like college baseball. There are so many videos at this point of these guys hitting home runs. First off, these metal bats in some of these kids' hands. They are cranking the ball they are, and as soon as they hit a home run, if they're not taking off running, the refs like push them out of the box. And I'm like that that's ridiculous. Like let let them have it for a second. It's like there's within reason. Like don't sit there and you know every other sport bat flip.
Speaker 1:You know, pimp it for two and a half minutes. But you know you, you give it a little stare, a little bat drop and go.
Speaker 2:Okay, fine, I don't care. We're doing celebrations in the end zone Right. We're screaming and flexing and basketball when we dunk.
Speaker 1:Like I mean some of the most famous things like you have, like the dirty bird from Atlanta when they scored a touchdown, or you know Ray Lewis and some of his dances that he did, like that, that some of those famous stuff of sports, lewis and some of his dances that he did, like some of those famous stuff of sports.
Speaker 2:Why is it such a big deal? Baseball guys see that as disrespect and when you do it the next time you get up the bat you're taking a 90-mile-an-hour fastball off the bat.
Speaker 1:So when we talk to Will later we'll ask him, Because he'll have you know, he'll have thoughts on it. Yeah, but he's also very traditionalist when it comes to some a little bit they need some more excitement.
Speaker 2:We've talked about this with golf a lot. We need some more excitement in baseball. I think like I can sit down and watch it some, but it gets a little, um, I don't know. I mean I don't want to say boring, but it kind of does.
Speaker 1:I mean so speaking, speaking of that, you got to watch tgl for the first time.
Speaker 2:I did First time. First time.
Speaker 1:Atlanta and New York was it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can't remember the teams very well. I know it wasn't that exciting, so all right. Ended up. I've given my thoughts on the past two weeks. I actually missed this week. I caught maybe two holes very near the tail end, just wasn't able to sit down and watch it this week.
Speaker 2:so for this week, let's get your thoughts on it yeah, I, I started watching it and I knew your opinion and your thoughts and I immediately kind of got a little bored, to be honest with you, okay, and and I just stuck with it and I 100 believe they need to fill some dead space, okay, some dead air time, whatever. It is like you mentioned only having one commentator and they need to fix that. But as it went on, it got a little more interesting for me and they do some things well. Obviously I hope it gets better as it goes on. But I think I found a team already. I'm gonna watch this. Okay, it might be my team, not that's only two teams.
Speaker 1:I've seen Early season pick of Atlanta.
Speaker 2:I'm not really that far from Atlanta. So it's Justin Thomas Patrick.
Speaker 1:Cantlay and. Billy Horschel. I did see the preview of Billy Horschel coming out.
Speaker 2:I mean yeah. I mean he comes out with a Dirty Bird fake necklace that's living it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean that's actually just's necklace that's living it. I mean that's actually the dirty bird dance, the atlanta stuff he done the dirty bird dance stuff which he says he rehearsed.
Speaker 2:Uh, at the end of the match, when they won, he actually got the other two with the dirty bird chain on and so, honestly it, that group was fun to listen to. They were having a good time. They were trash talking the other guys, so that kept me in it more than anything.
Speaker 1:Now, if I could see that, two teams like that and a close match, I think it was still 4-0. Okay, so the little bit I tuned in. They show the announcer. They've done one thing already Night, one man's in a suit.
Speaker 2:Okay, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:So the other night he's in a golf hoodie. He looks like he's about to go out and play some holes. Yeah, and I'm like, all right, we're on the, we're on the right path. Like there there's some things it's like all right, we're trying to to make it a little bit Um. One thing I still don't like the the referee that they're using. He's a career NBA guy, like why, why are we?
Speaker 2:Why are we using him as a ref? I don't know why we have a ref.
Speaker 1:I can't figure out what he does. So I want a ref. But you know who I want. Who I want? Charles Barkley. Oh, that'd be awesome. I want Charles Barkley some way somehow involved in this, whether he's in the booth, but I also think, kevin Kisner in the booth. You put Kis and Barkley in the booth. Just that's some of the best commentary in all sports. I think that'd be fantastic.
Speaker 2:I'd love to see that. Yeah, and I think what they're doing is they want to get the players more involved in you. They want to hear more of the players, but most of them are not good at that. That's not what they do. They've never done that.
Speaker 1:Well, so did you see yesterday or today here? Very recently, justin Thomas put out a letter to a bunch of other players saying we need to do a better job with media. We need to give them more access to us on the course, basically trying to get guys more comfortable with that. Because that's the thing. He's pretty good at it. He knows how to speak. He's very well spoken, but he's very relatable. He cuts up. He's a well-spoken, but he's very relatable. He cuts up. He's a fun type guy. A lot of the golfers don't have the personality for that, and especially that New York team, ricky Fitzpatrick and Cam Young. They're a boring squad.
Speaker 2:Fitzpatrick struggled, he struggled a couple times, though it's their second match already and just watching his demeanor he wasn't real happy and I got the impression like a couple shots that end up short, like he hit one in the water, come up real short. He didn't think it should have been that short.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was a bunker shot. I saw him into the water and he immediately was like that might have been it, yeah. Like that shouldn't have come out that way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, scott's impression. He's like, yeah, I'm better than this and we see it. You know, when guys use top tracers, sometimes they think they know how far they hit it and they really see their numbers.
Speaker 1:So I guess it's different for a pro, like pros know their numbers, especially Fitzpatrick. That dude is as statistical as they come. I mean he's wrote down the stats of every single shot he's ever hit.
Speaker 2:So like on a shot like that. Do you think he just the stats of every single shot he's ever hit? So like on a shot like that do you think he just like he would know if he missed it right?
Speaker 1:So I think that's where you see, at times even the best of simulators sometimes read a little funny Like sometimes they don't read spin as great, sometimes they don't read the contact as great. I think technology's come a long way, but I think that's exactly right. I think it's part of it. It's come a long way, but I think that's exactly right. I think it's part of it. Now for the pros. I'm surprised you don't see them have some type of thing of like they can throw basically a challenge flag of like hey, I get a re-hit.
Speaker 2:I don't think that was right. One shot around, maybe.
Speaker 1:Sometime like a mulligan.
Speaker 2:I'd be okay with that.
Speaker 1:Because, like he was very surprised on that shot, like very surprised on that shot, like when I watched it it sounded like he made really good contact, so I was a little surprised for it to be. It was like 30 yards short into the water. It's very weird.
Speaker 2:so I didn't know how they did the bunker and the rough yeah okay, those make no sense to me. Why is that? Because the rough is barely a rough um well, so it depends. They've got the front rough in that back rough okay, all I saw was the back rough, okay, but it was barely rough. The the bunker was like flat sand. I mean, yeah, they got this little lip they have the lip that, but it ain't.
Speaker 1:It goes up in front, depending on what the hole is not that much of a lip.
Speaker 2:But then I see the guys walk over and just lay their ball right on top In the sand.
Speaker 1:They place it and I did see a clip this morning actually Fitzpatrick in the sand placing his ball down and JT walks over and hands him a tee and says, hey, you want to tee that up.
Speaker 2:Oh, I didn't see that part and I was like that was good.
Speaker 1:And we didn't hear it very well, Like they didn't put that on there.
Speaker 2:That should have been on there. That's what we need to hear.
Speaker 1:And it's very frustrating when you get the really good lines, and it was kind of just in passing by JT was great with it, billy Horschel was great and then Cantley.
Speaker 2:because of them two, I think he kind of got pushed along with them.
Speaker 1:He's not one by himself, but I think depending on who he's with could be good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they kind of pushed him along a little bit.
Speaker 1:Because I feel the same with Ricky and those guys. But he was out this week. He's out of the tournament. This week he withdrew so he's been having a little bit of injury. He's been going through. But he's another one of those. Getting with the right group he could be fun, but he's with a very just dull group it would be hard. Fitzpatrick, to me, is one of those that I don't think he's in it next year. I don't think he continues.
Speaker 2:I don't think so. There's a few guys that I think will back out. I think the guys playing and the group that's kind of over it, the producers or whoever they're going to figure out who works and who doesn't.
Speaker 1:Well, I think you've got to add some live guys. Bryson, I think would be a blast in this. I do too. I think Brooks Koepka would be good in this, because he's he's again. He's very dry, but get him with the right group. He's got little numbering patrick reed over to you. Can't put him in a bunker, I mean he'll he'll.
Speaker 2:He'll have the best lie there. He's gonna build sank. I think he's gonna say something about it, yeah I mean the main carries a shovel. You know I'm I'm still learning how the whole process works. Um, you know, I don't know why they continued to play it out.
Speaker 1:I didn't expect them to play it out when it was already over but they went ahead and played it out, even though once it was, I think it's just probably a time slot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I'm not sure. They said it was the first match they've had that nobody threw out the hammer, so I don't really know what that is or how that works.
Speaker 1:So did you see? It's a we got to come up with something better. We've got to come up with something better. If you're going to call it the hammer, it can't be a towel, it needs to be a hammer.
Speaker 2:I saw it. It was in JT's pocket A yellow towel.
Speaker 1:That's called the hammer. If you throw the hammer before a hole, it has to be accepted and the hole is now worth two points.
Speaker 2:What if you don't make it? What do you mean?
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:So at the very end last putt, it's already over whenever jt says, hey, do you want to throw the hammer down now? And he said, what does it matter? I don't matter. And the other guy said, well, we can. It can only hurt us now at this point, and so I didn't quite understand I don't know if they're doing like a point differential for playoffs or okay, something like that across the whole. I don't know what it would have been um but yeah, so the hammer.
Speaker 1:If you throw it during the hole after somebody's teed off, like say, I t off on a par three, hit it to six inches, I'm gonna throw the hammer because I'm gonna put a lot of pressure on you if you decline it okay, so now, no matter who wins, they get to hang on, I'm getting there, all right, okay if you decline it, the hole is immediately over.
Speaker 1:I get one point okay if there's no shots been hit yet and I throw it, you can't decline it, it's automatically in, okay. But then it switches teams. Every time it's thrown like there's some strategy to it, it's just again. If we're gonna have this cool, like hey, it's this, it's this, it can't be a rag in the back of somebody's pocket, like it's got to be something. So I didn't know what, switch back and forth and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:So yes, you know that one of the uh commentators, or somebody, asked jt, you know what you're playing with it? He said you don't worry about it, we'll do it, um, but he they never, never got it out. Um, they were really big on wanting to keep a shutout and jt made a couple long putts to keep it but it was a big deal, for there's a highlight I saw of a putt he hit.
Speaker 1:If he didn't hit the hole, it was off the back of the green he I would love to see how the green works.
Speaker 2:I know, you know, I think you told me they mentioned that it moves different stuff. It always looked like the same green to me no, so the green itself rotates.
Speaker 1:It's on a giant rotating board like uh but does it always have the same break?
Speaker 2:I mean, I know it can rotate around the front or back, but so underneath the green they basically have like 600 jacks so they can adjust, make it so if I put a 10 foot putt.
Speaker 1:I can make it straight. I can make it break early. I can make it break the middle. I can make it break.
Speaker 2:However, they had like a false front on one, and then I saw that in the back of another one, but it was the same. So there's they.
Speaker 1:Every green is shaped like a kidney, is what they say, but it depends on the orientation of it, gotcha. So sometimes the bunker could be in the back, sometimes you have to get over the bunker, sometimes it's left or right. It just it just depends on the hole, cause none of these holes are real holes. They made them all themselves. Cause otherwise, it'd be really hard to you know. Well, here's number seven at Pebble. You know the short par three and then you look at a green and it's not the exact same. That'd be hard.
Speaker 1:Especially these guys that have played holes like that so much they know what it is.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah for me.
Speaker 1:I ain't got a clue. I don't know what hole seven at Pebble looks like.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's some things I next week, but I think a lot of that was because of that team, the Atlanta team, and those guys.
Speaker 1:Oh, you've got to watch next week.
Speaker 2:Actually I saw too. Jt asked. He's like, hey, do we have a bunch of these pins? And the Atlanta team all signed the flag and gave the whole pin to a kid in the crowd.
Speaker 1:That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:It was cool.
Speaker 1:But yes, next match Tiger's second. So you've got Tiger with Jupiter and Rory with Boston.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but now it's on a Monday at 630. Why are we switching the time so much? I don't know. Was it because of football?
Speaker 1:Was that why I was getting messed up that I'm not sure, but next week we're talking about Tiger and Rory. But you know who else plays next week? I'm not sure, maybe they won't, but next week we're talking about Tiger and Rory. But you know who else plays next week Captain America Ryder Cup. Captain Keegan Bradley is on Boston. Okay, didn't know that, so we'll get to see him there. He was actually there last week watching Tiger, kind of just getting the feel for the place.
Speaker 2:I could see Tiger being probably fun. I'm sure he'll say whatever he thinks.
Speaker 1:So the Barstool Sports guys have a video here recently with Tiger, because they're sponsored by TaylorMade, obviously so is he, and he had one of the greatest little one-liners. That kind of got passed. That was absolutely hilarious. You know it's Trent and Frankie and Riggs were the three that were there. Well, frankie only wears pants. No matter the temperature, no matter what, he only wears pants.
Speaker 2:I've never seen anybody like that.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, because usually the other way around, like you, you'll only wear shorts, I like to wear shorts. Well, you know, tiger's out there in a pair of shorts, like he's just out there, relaxed, you know, having a good time, he's caddying time, he's catting for them. Well, they one of the guys that hit it kind of off left rough and they're over there talking. Well, trent brings up. You know, we got to get frankie into shorts and he's like no, I get it, I get it. And you know, kind of in passing, he's like does he have, uh, ob stakes down there you're talking about?
Speaker 2:white stakes. I'm like that was good, like it was just quick, like he didn't have to sit on it.
Speaker 1:I think he could be funny now, I think, when we get him versus JT, because they're really good buddies oh, that'll be good. That one could be, because, again, rory's not a big personality guy, so I don't know how that's going to go.
Speaker 2:They need at least one on every team, so maybe they've got to adjust the teams next year. Get some different people.
Speaker 1:I'm just wondering, like maybe do we really just buy into the entertainment side and say let's put two pros and a celebrity as a team.
Speaker 2:That'd be fun, or I don't understand that. So there's four in every team, right? I don't quite understand that when the fourth one comes in, or?
Speaker 1:Well, it's always three v three, but some of the guys have engagements elsewhere or you know sponsorship stuff. They have to be somewhere else. So they have four, so they can always fill a team.
Speaker 2:But, they have four so they can always fill a team. It's kind of like what you talked about before, with NBA stars sitting and stuff. If Atlanta's my team and I want to turn around and watch you or I want to go be there in person, and now JT or somebody's not there, I feel a little bit like, okay, I'm not loving this as much.
Speaker 1:I'm having a hard time that TGL is pushing these teams and team names and team merch and not a single player out there is wearing any of the merch. The only people wearing it is in the stands and I'm like, if they can't be bothered, why am I going to pay the outrageous amount of money for a t-shirt or a hat or whatever, like it drives me nuts. I can't stand something like that.
Speaker 2:It's so simple I'm not going to. It's so simple. I did see, too they were advertising. Uh, I don't remember what day it was. There's going to be like three matches on the same day, I think it is, and uh, might be atlanta, or somebody has a double header back to back, like they're playing two rounds, and I mean that's not really much for them. Like those guys play a lot of golf no, I agree with you, but it was kind of weird that they were just shoving everything in one day like that all right.
Speaker 1:Speaking of the merch, real quick I went to their website. I didn't realize it was okay.
Speaker 2:I need me atlanta some lana. Oh, I'm on atlanta drive.
Speaker 1:Okay, atlanta drive gc right here.
Speaker 2:It's funny, I I didn't know, they were called drive, so yeah, so, yeah.
Speaker 1:So. Atlanta Drive GC Atlanta Drive Golf Club. Okay, $79.99. This looks like a t-shirt.
Speaker 2:Oh my.
Speaker 1:That's $80.
Speaker 2:I don't want that that looks like a.
Speaker 1:It looks like a soccer jersey.
Speaker 2:It reminds me of the old school athletics baseball jerseys or something.
Speaker 1:Okay, Okay. So here's a true t-shirt.
Speaker 2:Very simple $50.
Speaker 1:I'm not buying that that's expensive for a t-shirt yeah, of somebody I don't even okay.
Speaker 2:So here's the thing. Started this thing I know myself.
Speaker 1:You know me when I pick a team. I'll have a t-shirt, yeah I'm sure I mean just, I don't care, it's 50 I'm not paying 80, but I but I'll.
Speaker 2:Eventually they'll run a sale or something I'll pick one up Are there going to be any knockoffs at the flea market or something?
Speaker 1:My wife will make one yeah there we go. She's got all kinds of capabilities. That's it.
Speaker 2:Tiger Woods is going to be knocking on the door, knocking off our merch.
Speaker 1:Hang on, he's got his own a little bit of that, that's right. Um, the the cat stuff is a big issue right now, so I.
Speaker 2:They got an argument against tiger. Be honest with you, they do it's really close.
Speaker 1:So I saw the Barstool guys again, huge tiger fans they're, with Taylor made. They're all about Sunday red, sunday Red, which is Tiger's company. They said if I'm a lawyer which these guys are nowhere close to anything like that they're not going to be that type. If I'm a lawyer, first thing I do is I walk into court and say it's facing a different direction. Just because they're both cats doesn't mean they're the same Case closed and I'm like hang on, guys.
Speaker 1:It don't work that way. These logo lawsuits are going to last years and there's way more to it than as simple as we're not even facing the same direction, Like these guys have so many patents and trademarks on these things that one little tiny piece could be the same and it throws out the hole.
Speaker 2:I don't know why tiger didn't make clearly a tiger like you, like an orange and black because it's not fancy enough. But you know, puma has the the kind of jumping cat already but to me that's the whole thing is.
Speaker 1:It's like he's pushing cashmere and high, very high end stuff like his stuff. I will never own it because it's not gonna be at marshall's.
Speaker 2:So then like I can't, I can't go buy sunday red at marshall's if I could, I'll get some why would he want to be confused with puma himself, like he should want his brand to stand out above them his whole thing.
Speaker 1:Like the stripes are for certain or for like the majors, he's won and it's you know. There's a whole meaning to the why it's designed that way.
Speaker 2:If it's not jumping. The case closed.
Speaker 1:It's not my favorite design that they could have went with, by no means.
Speaker 2:While we're on the topic of golf, I kind of mentioned this a bit. We're on golf, so there's somebody else that's a golfer coming to our area on Friday. Oh yeah, the 47th president.
Speaker 1:Donald Trump. Donald Trump will be in western North Carolina. He's coming to look at, I guess, all the flood stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, some of the, some of the Hurricane Helene. I think he's going to be in the Asheville area in those outskirts that got some hurricane damage.
Speaker 1:I mean people can say what they want to say, but I mean we saw at the range we were working out there after all the damage.
Speaker 2:Biden and Cooper flew by, they, flew over they can say what they want.
Speaker 1:We saw them come by.
Speaker 2:We knew they was in there that day and it was clearly there Unless the helicopter was empty.
Speaker 1:There's no other way that you see the formation that they were the helicopters that it was. It was them.
Speaker 2:And he was scheduled to be in around that time, correct?
Speaker 1:So again, this is not us saying one side or the other. It's literally just kind of cool for the area. Anytime a president comes visit, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:It is, yeah. Whether you like the president or not, he's still the president, well, so?
Speaker 1:that's something I've struggled with all week and I know it was a bit different this year. Inauguration Day was on MLK, so it was already on a holiday. It was. I don't understand why Inauguration Day in itself is not a holiday, whether you like the president who's going in or not.
Speaker 2:It's definitely a monumental day. It's a huge thing for the country.
Speaker 1:Like again it doesn't matter if you're Republican, democrat, whatever, you still respect the position you should. Yes, so if you were a fan of Biden or not, or a fan of Trump or not, they're still the president. That's a position that I personally feel you respect. Yeah, a fan of Trump or not, they're still the president. That's a position that I personally feel you respect. Yeah, so I don't understand why we don't have some type of small, because it's only once every four years, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, why do we not?
Speaker 1:have an inauguration day.
Speaker 2:We literally have a president's day, right, so that that to me is just a bit odd.
Speaker 1:I've thought about this a lot this week because it's it's something very simple. But why don't we Like, why don't we make that a bigger deal? Because it's shown on TV like crazy. It's all day, I mean every news station. It was like all day talking about it.
Speaker 2:Well, they have full events. Yeah, you know all day long. And then you know this happened to also be the same day as the college football national championship, so that was uh I still wonder if jd vance was able to sneak off and go to the game hopefully at least got to watch it on his phone.
Speaker 1:Like he's a busy day, I get it. They were doing something all day long.
Speaker 2:But I just wonder, like I'd be perfectly fine if you know he got to watch some of the game or make it over to the game. I think a lot of people would have loved it that'd be cool uh, I did see a video. He made a comment that he'd never seen the Oval Office and they took a video of him going in for the first time with Trump. It was kind of cool to see that moment.
Speaker 1:I guess it makes sense. It's not like everybody gets invited there. Yeah, that's a pretty prestigious area.
Speaker 2:If I'm not mistaken, he's originally from maybe Kentucky and then as a kid moved to Ohio or something like that. So it's probably a big deal for somebody like that. You know they come from that background and when I say kentucky, like the mountains of kentucky yes, yeah, he's from like small, like a big.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not like, that's probably cool for somebody like that I do know. I heard a rumor and I really hope it's true. So remember, a while back, bryson had trump on his youtube channel and they did a breaking 50 episode. The rumor is Trump is going to let Bryson on property one day 100 shots to try to make a hole-in-one over the White.
Speaker 2:House Over the White House.
Speaker 1:That would be awesome For me. Again, whether you like Trump or not, that's content Like. I would love to see Bryson on the lawn out front trying to hit over the White House. It's Bryson.
Speaker 2:The man's not going to shank it.
Speaker 1:I feel like he should, he should.
Speaker 2:He's an avid golfer, I mean it only makes sense Now he might put one in the window and be like oops.
Speaker 1:I think he can afford to fix it, I to fix it. I think it's okay that, or our tax dollars will. One of the two, that's true. But yeah, I feel like that would just be cool to watch. It was very polarizing Bryson doing the shot over his house. It has sparked a million different people doing challenges like that.
Speaker 2:I still think we should do one.
Speaker 1:I mean I've got a few ideas of one, it's just it's been so cold. I didn't want to do it out here and I've got like a little kids playhouse out here. It's, like you know, three foot tall, as long as you put something I can't break, because, yeah, I'm gonna shank a few like I'm not that level.
Speaker 2:I mean this is short enough, we just do a little chip over it. You don't even have to hit a full shot. Flop shot over the kids house. Yeah, be over the house. Nobody said what kind of house this is true.
Speaker 1:Kind of want to try one over my car too, though, just for the fun of it.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm not trying to over my car, no that's why I said my car.
Speaker 1:I'm not worried about my car.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll try one over your car, I'm not worried about my car the same way. But yeah, I just feel like Bryson trying to hit a hole-in-one over I don't know how you let him or any person do something like that, because then you'd get so many requests. Yeah, but at this point.
Speaker 1:Bryson has connections. Once Trump agreed to come on his channel, he's kind of got it in. You can't hate on people for the connections they make. I mean, it's just part of it. I mean, I feel like every president has people that they like, or let do a little bit more than everybody else got to.
Speaker 2:It'd be entertaining for sure.
Speaker 1:I think it'd be fun to watch. I mean, I think we need to make it a live event.
Speaker 2:I'm all for it.
Speaker 1:Bryson calls We'll we'll come, we'll come. Do live live. Commentary for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, We'll do not amuse from the uh, the event there?
Speaker 1:I don't I, but they can be like who are you? Shot 92. Here we go again. Well, it's kind of like. Will sent me a video today. So the Bob Does Sports guys on YouTube they're obviously growing huge. I mean they're so funny to watch. But one of the other YouTube golfers, grant Horvat, just did a video with Rory McIlroy. Well, bob sees Rory out somewhere, somewhere he takes the opportunity, rolls down his window. Hey, man, saw, you know, appreciate you coming on youtube, saw the video you did, loved it and you know him being him. He's like hey, you know you ever seen bob does sports and rory went, nope and bob just goes oh and it's just like it shut him down.
Speaker 1:Okay, never mind and he's like I don't know if we're closer to having him on the show or if I just ruined our chances.
Speaker 2:He's like I don't know at this point, but it's one of the two either he's gonna think that guy's crazy I'm not, I don't care what he is or he's gonna get intrigued and go let me see.
Speaker 1:So I think it's fantastic for those guys to come on some of these because you're starting to get it makes it more personal. Like you can, you can start to see them in a different light than this tournament atmosphere. Yeah, where they're well, that's what quiet locked in social media done that for pretty much every sport. Yes, or musician, or whatever it is you do it gave you know the human side of the athlete yeah not just this behind the scenes.
Speaker 2:You're the best at this sport, and that's all we know yeah, and some of these guys, you know you hate them, you know they say don't meet your uh your heroes yeah, because they'll disappoint you real quick you ever met.
Speaker 1:I see, I don't really have heroes like that, like I. I don't know that I admire some of these people, but I don't consider that like a hero yeah I mean, there's you met any like big time famous, like, not even like like college? Or like I mean any big time famous Not even like college?
Speaker 2:I mean like big time famous? I don't think so, not that I can recall.
Speaker 1:Anyways, we've got to meet some better people.
Speaker 2:Clearly we do, if we don't even have anybody to say. But I'm afraid they'll be jerks and then I'm going to be ruined.
Speaker 1:I've met Cliff Williams from ACDC he was really nice.
Speaker 2:He was a cool guy.
Speaker 1:But I mean, obviously I only met him because he lives fairly local to here.
Speaker 2:I guess it depends on We've got a few people here. What does meet mean? I saw them Well. I mean I actually got to talk to him, like shake his hand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a little different, but to me it's almost like yeah, I mean, I actually got to talk to him, like shake his hand. Yeah, that's a little different, but to me it's almost like yeah, I mean as simple as. To me it's like face-to-face, even if it's just an autograph or something small.
Speaker 2:I got an autograph from Tim McGraw when I was a kid. That's pretty cool. He was at an outdoor festival where I lived in Georgia and we went and then afterwards there was a line you could go. He sat on the steps of his tour bus If I remember right, he's like in shorts and a t-shirt and ball cap, you know whatever.
Speaker 1:I mean, it means absolutely nothing to me because it's country music. Yeah, he just walked by and he was.
Speaker 2:I always knew who that is yeah, and back that was you know mid-90s.
Speaker 1:Age yourself Mid-90s Age yourself.
Speaker 2:So he was, he was a big deal back then. You know it was it was a big deal, that's true.
Speaker 1:Um so like I I've. I've gotten like autographs from Andy Roddick, roger Federer, rafael Nadal, like some you know big tennis guys. You know me and my dad actually drove to Cincinnati one year for a U S open, you know pre-tournament, and got to see all those guys and that was a ton of fun. I also remember it was the summer, July or August, something like that in Cincinnati it was like 102. It was miserable, but again, I'd still rather be hot than cold.
Speaker 2:It was worth it.
Speaker 1:It was a lot of fun because one of those it's a much smaller tournament. Something we really haven't talked about at all on the podcast is tennis.
Speaker 2:That's something I don't really follow much. I grew up playing tennis.
Speaker 1:Played a little bit in college. I still love tennis. It's just hard because all the guys that I really watched and grew up really thinking about, they're all gone now, with the exception of Novak Djokovic. He's still around, but Federer's retired retired. Nadal's retired.
Speaker 2:But those guys were so big that Even somebody like me that didn't follow tennis didn't really play tennis I still knew who they were.
Speaker 1:To me, especially Federer and Nadal, it's almost like Tiger Woods. You don't play the sport. You don't know the sport, but you know who they are. They were bigger than that. It's Serena Williams. Whether you know who they are, yeah, they're, because they just they were bigger than that it's. It's serena williams yep like the williams sisters whether you know tennis at all, you know who serena williams is. You just do um and there's no question she is the greatest female tennis star ever. Yeah, like she's. She's incredible.
Speaker 2:Um, shout out to brad, and he always had a crush on serena oh really he always thought she was great um well, now that you're getting older, are you thinking about going into pickleball?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Will you ever?
Speaker 1:I'm too competitive.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I can't.
Speaker 2:You can still be competitive.
Speaker 1:So my mom plays. If I go play with mom, me and her won't be friends. Okay, because if she doesn't play as hard as I feel like she should, I just don't feel like it would be good Mom's go. Um, we're down to. Yeah, like I don't want to yell at my mom on pickleball court. That'd be really bad. Um, no, I I don't see myself going there, um, because it's it's very similar to tennis, but I'm gonna play it like tennis and from what I've seen, that makes a lot of people mad, like especially because it's such an old, old person sport.
Speaker 2:They just want to volley back and forth.
Speaker 1:They just they're doing a lot of that. Like to me, like if I'm volleying, I'm putting in your feet, I'm putting your. Like, like in tennis, it's, it's. You put the point away, yeah. Like there's times that you know you're just returning it, it's back and forth, but there's times like hey, it's, it's time to end the point. So I'm gonna end the point. I don't like to sit here and just let's just have fun. No to me, if I'm not winning, it's not fun it's not fun.
Speaker 1:You gotta win like for pickleball, for me like and again, my wife doesn't want me to have another hobby, because then I'm gonna buy paddles and I'm gonna buy yeah, all this stuff, you have enough golf stuff. She probably wants you to stick with that for now yeah, I mean, don mean, don't get me wrong, I'm always looking for something else, but that's just not something. I feel like I want to go to.
Speaker 2:But I wonder, you know, we had tennis, mm-hmm, and we had Badminton. No, ping pong, ping pong, okay.
Speaker 1:Don't get started on ping pong.
Speaker 2:I didn't realize we needed something else between the two. I thought if you couldn't play tennis, go play ping pong. But somebody somewhere said you know, I need a little bit more.
Speaker 1:I really do get the idea and I think it's actually really smart because it's so much smaller. Like you know, again, nothing against my mom, but you know she's older now. Tennis would be just a lot of back and forth running.
Speaker 2:It's a large court.
Speaker 1:So this being such a small court, allows especially the older generation to kind of keep that same feel. Like some of these guys I grew up playing tennis with at the local racquet club here, they've kind of switched over now playing pickleball because they just don't have it in their knees anymore, just don't have that same maneuverability. So they switched over and they still feel like they're kind of doing that.
Speaker 2:So is pickleball kind of the senior tease on the golf course you know kind of get you a little smaller.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing Pickleball yeah, I'm dropping stuff.
Speaker 2:Why do we have stuff falling on you? What is the noise going on here?
Speaker 1:It's bouncing, it's clicking, it's all over the place. The thing is like professional pickleball is a huge thing right now.
Speaker 2:Like there's a lot of. I've never watched it and I really couldn't tell you to play it. I mean, I get the premise because it's like tennis, yeah, I know most of it, but there's a few things I'm unsure about.
Speaker 1:But it's all these like see, that seems weird to me, like if you can go down, just go play tennis. So it is different, it's the same thing. Like you can't dominate ping pong and dominate tennis like it's. So it's, it's very different. Play style, like they're basically playing like a ping pong, not ping pong like a wiffle ball in pickleball. So it's, it's very different, whereas tennis, you know, it's a basically a rubber ball and a trampoline that you're hitting with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a lot you can generate a lot of power, so it's very, very different.
Speaker 2:Should we do this with other sports, Like can we go basketball and make an eight-foot goal maybe? Oh, have you seen that? I don't know. Smaller basketball, no, is that a thing? All right? So?
Speaker 1:I started seeing this on Instagram. There are these like like, basically like kind of like they do the summer league here, the men's league they used to do. There are these leagues, eight foot goal, leagues that are like 30, 30s men's leagues, eight foot goals, and it's these dudes out here just living the glory days dunking all kinds like throwing oops off of things, it's. It's one of those and I'm like I don't need that near me because I would try it, because obviously I can't dunk anymore.
Speaker 2:I don't think I could shoot on eight foot goal, wouldn't that be so weird?
Speaker 1:So it's not that bad Like you would get used to it pretty quick Because once you're shooting basketball you can kind of make it work. But the first time I saw it there's this dude that I'm like he has no business dunking and he's doing some pretty good dunks and I'm like that's not 10 foot.
Speaker 2:So I started watching it and it's like that's hilarious. I saw a clip of Tom Brady dunking on something and they said something about it being 8 or 8 1⁄2 feet. Maybe that's what it was or something like that I didn't know that was a real thing.
Speaker 1:I saw this one dude you could tell he's a baller, he plays basketball, he's done and he's super athletic and he's like double between the leg 360 on this eight-foot goal.
Speaker 1:I'm like all right, that would take the fun out of it for me because like, yeah, eight foot, I could dunk easy. I mean I'm 6'4" already, arms reach like I'm almost there, ten foot anymore. I just don't have the hop for it. So it would be fun if I could play with a bunch of guys like me, like older, like older you know my age not playing with a bunch of 18, 19 year old kids that are, you know, jumping over me to dunk.
Speaker 2:Well, that's I feel like with pickleball you're talking about the the younger kids kind of dominate that. I think it was kind of made for a certain group and let's just leave it with that group. Let kids go back to playing what you're playing. That's just the way it works, though.
Speaker 1:If there's some kind of sport out there, somebody's going to try to dominate it, and it's usually going to be somebody younger, because they're either going to devote the time to it or, naturally, pick up the skill to it More athletic, get there, you know, move faster, it just happens. Yeah, no, I get that. Yeah, they're faster moving, they're better hand-eye coordination you know whatever. No, pickleball is not something that I've tried yet. It's probably not something that I will give much of a try.
Speaker 2:Not yet.
Speaker 1:Not until you get a little older. That's the thing. I can play golf until I die. I can be as old as I want and play golf. It's not something I'm going to pick over golf. I'm still way too into golf to then want to go pull my time to something else. That would be hard. That would be hard. That definitely hard.
Speaker 2:I can see that I've not had a desire to play pickleball at all either.
Speaker 1:Um, so I kind of mentioned earlier and we kind of went away from it, end of January, march Madness coming soon. You had mentioned SEC football beating up on each other. Sec basketball is basically doing the same thing.
Speaker 2:Everybody but Arkansas.
Speaker 1:If you can hear the bias in his voice. I saw it on his face Like the hatred towards Cal on his face right there was hilarious.
Speaker 2:There's no hatred towards Cal.
Speaker 1:But you're really glad he's failing.
Speaker 2:I'm not glad he's failing um, but I think it's um. Uh, what's the word vindication?
Speaker 1:can't have your cake and eat it too at this point.
Speaker 2:Yeah it's, it's. Everybody said kentucky fans are crazy cows, cow. What are you doing? You're never gonna get nobody else and I really expected him to go somewhere else. And you know, when you go somewhere new, you get this.
Speaker 1:You're rejuvenated you get this new energy. I see that.
Speaker 2:And I really expected him to go do that and I was perfectly fine with it.
Speaker 1:So I've always been a little bit different about Cal, which I'm not a UK fan. Obviously, Cal underperformed so much at kentucky and I made this comment to you the other day the fact that he didn't have five or six championships to me means he failed it.
Speaker 2:He had one, you might be right.
Speaker 1:I mean, I can't argue like everybody's like well, we made the final four cool. You got a runner-up trophy. It was very exciting.
Speaker 2:Those was very exciting, those first, I don't know, 10 years.
Speaker 1:There was a couple down years here and there. Yeah, which that's going to happen, it's normal.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, a lot of Elite Eights, final Fours. You know the one championship, but you're probably right when you look back at all the players that came out of there and all of them that are in the NBA now.
Speaker 1:Right, I about Cal Recruiting wise. He's one of the best. The man can recruit these kids like crazy, but he never did a whole lot with them.
Speaker 2:No, you're right. I thought about this. When Cal was leaving Kentucky, they went and talked to UConn's coach Hurley.
Speaker 1:By the way, Brian, save that spot where he just said I'm right, I need that for later.
Speaker 2:Anyhow the disgust.
Speaker 2:They talked to Hurley and Hurley didn't want to come. And I think this is like three different ways. So if Hurley comes to Kentucky, it's this immediate you've got to win now, which is true Because he'd been winning at UConn, so I completely understand why he didn't come. And that's because he just won now, which is true Because he'd been winning at UConn. So I completely understand why he didn't come. And when you know that's because he just won championships. When Mark Pope came to Kentucky, he'd done some, but nothing great. There was no high expectations, so he could just walk in and so other than the UK expectations.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but Other than just the natural.
Speaker 2:You know they kind of. They turned out to be better, I think, this year than most people thought. If they just lost several games, nobody would be like, oh, it's the first year he put together a team, whatever.
Speaker 1:Well, especially knowing he had no team when he showed up.
Speaker 2:I agree with that, hurley coming off this like he just killed it at the school. You got Mark Pope, who just not won a championship or anything. But then you got Arkansas, who pulled in Cal and said, oh, it's Cal, he's going to do this. But what was Cal doing five years before you brought him? It wasn't like he was killing it at Kentucky when you got him.
Speaker 1:So I guess for me, the way I see it, at Arkansas they're almost just trying to get more notoriety to that program because Cal's a big name. So Arkansas here in the past several years have had what was the coach's name.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he left Musselman, or Was it?
Speaker 1:Musselman, that was there, something like that. Yeah, really good coach, I can't remember who was there Really grew Arkansas basketball a lot.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to look it up. Who's that Alabama?
Speaker 1:That's Nate Oates.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Musselman was on Arkansas. So Musselman was on Arkansas, yeah, yeah, that's right, he went out west.
Speaker 1:Yes, he did. Yeah, so he really grew Arkansas basketball a ton. It's not like they went out and got like a current big-time coach, they just went and got a big name. Yeah, so it brings some notoriety and you know he's going to bring players, but doesn't it bring?
Speaker 2:negative notoriety at this moment, because, yeah, it's Cal, but now the spotlight is on him so much and it's not a good look, right?
Speaker 1:now Maybe, but I mean the whole thing of that whole. You know, any publicity is good. Publicity is maybe what they're playing off of. But I don't think Arkansas was expecting to win a championship this year. I don't think they brought cow was like we're gonna win this year I hope not um, I don't think he ever gets one at arkansas.
Speaker 1:Personally, I don't think that's necessarily the place that you're drawing. You know five of the top tens too, so I think it's gonna be a little bit tougher, but I think he could do well there. Um.
Speaker 2:I thought he would do well and, to be honest with you, like I said, I loved Cal the first years, even towards the last part at Kentucky when he was struggling. I still wanted him to do well, I still thought he'd turn it around and, to be honest with you, I'm kind of sad. It's sad to see him go from UMass to Memphis to Kentucky and what he was doing, and it just completely drop off and he goes somewhere else and he still don't have it. Maybe he gets it back, maybe he doesn't, that's regardless. But staying in the SEC, like you said, the SEC is just so good it's loaded right now.
Speaker 2:That's part of it. Probably maybe if he's in a different conference.
Speaker 1:Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida, Georgia.
Speaker 2:Georgia's put themselves in there.
Speaker 1:Arkansas has been ranked off and on. Ole Miss, mississippi State. Vanderbilt, I mean like it's a pretty tough conference right now, so it's I'm curious to see. I mean they'll probably get nine into the tournament Like it's going to be interesting. So I'm over here listening to you talk about Cal being gone. I'm still dreaming, knowing it's not possible, but dreaming Roy Williams returns. The struggle is real in Chapel Hill and we've got to figure something out. I don't know what that looks like.
Speaker 2:You mentioned it before. It's tough, you know, don't hire within.
Speaker 1:So I think there's. I don't necessarily think it's bad. So, carolina, for those that don't know, if you're not a Tar Heel basketball fan or really follow them whatsoever, carolina will only hire a Carolina guy. So it doesn't mean that you have to currently be at Carolina, but if you didn't come from Carolina, they're not going to hire you you had to at least coach there at some point, or? Play there. Typically it's players. They like former players. Well, that's what Duke did too right.
Speaker 1:Duke did that with Shire. Obviously Coach K wasn't a Duke guy, he was Army, but he was there forever. But yes, that's what they did with Shire. But he was also kind of handpicked by Coach K and groomed for that position. A little bit different, but Davis getting that position, that's a big job for a first-time head coach. There were several Carolina guys out there that have been coaching for several years and doing really really well. So it's really hard to just say yep, we're going to go there and he's going to do awesome.
Speaker 2:Well, that's one of those jobs that I felt like you know, duke, uh Carolina, kentucky, kansas, uconn, maybe now UConn at this point used to be like UCLA. Yeah, you can go, get who you want.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So why settle? And that's what I didn't understand, even when duke done that's kind of worked out for duke uh, well, so we actually.
Speaker 1:I think this is from a podcast that didn't air when we first started. I talked about john shire at the beginning of the year. His coaching has improved a ton, because beginning of the year it was hey, give it to cooper flag and just let him that is what they did when Kentucky beat them.
Speaker 2:that was kind of what it was.
Speaker 1:And now he's started to develop some offense around him. I mean, the kid had 40-something the other night. He's playing fantastic, he's probably the best player in the country, but now they're actually doing some sets for him and doing some things. Yeah, I feel like we've settled with him. I don't feel like we're recruiting the best. We don't even have a center on roster. I mean Carolina, known for being a fantastic rebounding team. They usually lead the country in offensive rebounds.
Speaker 2:This whole twin tower setup like the.
Speaker 1:Spurs used to do, and now we don't even have a center.
Speaker 2:I have to say I knew they weren't doing good, but I just went and looked up their record.
Speaker 1:I didn't realize they're struggling.
Speaker 2:12-8.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just lost to Wake Forest the other night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I didn't realize.
Speaker 1:The struggle is real. I'm telling you, Carolina, make it make sense.
Speaker 2:You've got the money.
Speaker 1:You've got the resources. How long do they? You are sponsored by the man himself, Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Figured out. How long do they let it? Let it go before they make a change.
Speaker 1:If he does this back to back years, I think they'll do it.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Him getting to a championship that one year with Roy's players.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say is that carry over? And?
Speaker 1:you know, I think, I think a full cycle of his players if he doesn't do well with them. Yeah, I think they have to.
Speaker 2:You know, head coaches always get the criticism or praise, of course, but their staff is such a big part and I think the staffs rotate so much that that can play a part in a team way more than people realize, even in recruiting and everything.
Speaker 1:The problem is most of the staff that he has is the same staff Roy had.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, it's not like he's got.
Speaker 1:Like he went and found ten new guys yeah, it's like all the same people. So he basically all he did was move into Roy's spot and everybody else moved up a slot. Like it's not, like we're seeing a ton of craziness.
Speaker 2:Well, clearly you don't think they're going to do much, no, so who have you got your eye on? And I don't know if I should put you on the spot for championship team, but who's there?
Speaker 1:at the end, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Final four, yeah something. Who are we looking at?
Speaker 1:You've got one team that you're like yeah, this one's in final four Auburn's been really good.
Speaker 2:Auburn and Duke are the two, but Duke.
Speaker 1:Duke has improved a ton since the beginning of the year. Now I think what hurts Duke? They play nobody and it's not their fault. The ACC is awful this year the ACC is so pathetic, but as much as I hate to say it.
Speaker 2:Who is the number two team in ACC as?
Speaker 1:much as I hate to say it, I think Duke's probably a Final Four this year, this year after them, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm with you.
Speaker 1:I don't know Nobody stands out Because typically it's like all right, you have Florida State, you have Carolina, you have Virginia. I thought Tennessee was really good. They've lost a bunch lately.
Speaker 2:Beat by Florida by a ton. They got beat by Vanderbilt the other night by one.
Speaker 1:So what I'll say? I think Alabama is another dangerous team. Alabama is really good. If they are shooting the ball, well, they can beat anybody. If they're not hitting shots, they could get beat by anybody.
Speaker 2:So that's where I'm with Kentucky. Kentucky is a great three-point shooting team when they are Like they have moments Right, but they don't have the defense, and when they played Alabama, Alabama's got a little bit of defense. They do, they're a hard-nosed team, so that can make them tough.
Speaker 1:But that's kind of an Oates mentality. Like they play scrappy, they get after it, they're in your face, like they're a tough team. I completely agree. Another team that I'm very surprised at Iowa State is dang good.
Speaker 2:They are good, you're right, they're a good ball team. And they're somebody I don't even think about Even this year. I kind of keep overlooking them when we have these conversations.
Speaker 1:To me it's so natural Big 12, you just go to Kansas, yeah. But they went through Kansas the other day pretty easily, like the score was closer than I think the game was, so I think Iowa State's in there. I still don't think you can count out UConn when it comes time to the tournament. Hurley's had his struggles this year. He's in the news a lot for berating officials and all these things I meant to bring that up because I messed up last week.
Speaker 2:I talked about the coach that got kicked out of the game and said you know that's enough. It was Hurley. I said it was Mick Cronin.
Speaker 1:It wasn't Mick Cronin's actually the one that kind of threw all his players under the bus and said nobody any good, and you know what nobody wants to be here, nobody's trying, nobody, yeah, so basically I'm doing fantastic.
Speaker 2:My players suck yeah, so I kind of get those mixed.
Speaker 1:You can get away with that in nba. You can't get away with that in college well, we said they're adults.
Speaker 2:So if you're gonna get paid like adults, yeah, it's just a different view their game.
Speaker 1:I guess schools view it different, I guess they, they do.
Speaker 2:I agree with you on there. But yeah, I mean, you kind of ain't going to do three in a row, right? Not with the team they got now.
Speaker 1:No, so I don't think they're going to do three in a row and I don't even know that they make Final Four, but I do think they make a deep run because I do think they're still talented. But they lost, rolling past the fact that so many people passed on. Dalton Dalton Nect how do you pronounce his last name?
Speaker 2:Yeah, how he fell. No, no, uconn Is it UConn.
Speaker 1:He was at UConn. No, no, he's at the Lakers now.
Speaker 2:Okay, I must be thinking of somebody else, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:He fell so many spots and it's like, how did you guys forget? They're like, well, he's too old, because he was a four-year guy in college. That's not old, yeah, like these guys can still play. So I don't get it. But you know, losing somebody like him is not easy.
Speaker 2:Well, players are going everywhere, you know, every year. Right now We've talked about that, but I'm with you.
Speaker 1:I'll take that back. I'm not thinking of Nick. He's a Tennessee guy.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's so awesome.
Speaker 1:There's another kid at UConn. I'm not sure I've got to go back.
Speaker 2:That's going to drive me nuts.
Speaker 1:Well, you look there.
Speaker 2:I know two up literally all the time. You know there's always going to be at least one team that gets through. You know the tournament deeper than we expect, get some upsets. Either they upset somebody or there's an upset ahead of them that kind of opens the path for them. Whatever it is, but I'm with you. My eye is on Auburn. I think, Auburn is a good team.
Speaker 1:Auburn's very good. They're going to be tough.
Speaker 2:I see you in deep thought over there.
Speaker 1:No, I was trying to go. I always mix him up with Donovan Klingin. Oh, okay, yeah, I was like who is it? Yes, I mix them up all the time. They look similar. They really look very similar, more similar than I really thought. Okay, I'm like, so that's why I mix them, let me see, so okay, hold on, dalton connect.
Speaker 2:I got my go look this up, right here connect for whatever it is connect for I love it. How do you pronounce it? It's uh. It's uh k and e. Yeah, I don't know how you pronounce it. Who's the? Yukon guy and this is great, like live right now but who's the yukon?
Speaker 1:Yeah, kind of like Klingon for all you Trekkies.
Speaker 2:Don't get me started on that, don't even Star Trek or Star Wars.
Speaker 1:David's going to say neither.
Speaker 2:I've never seen any of it. I don't have a clue what you're talking about. It's a Star Wars. The only answer is Star Wars, Klingon is I know? So I like the show Big Bang Theory.
Speaker 1:That the show big bang theory.
Speaker 2:That's where I got all the information from that's all I know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you are thinking um, you're thinking star trek, because the only reason you know it's from the big bang.
Speaker 2:Three guys pretty much, yeah, but they're also star wars guys too sure I don't know. They're into comics, they're in, yeah, I don't know. I I've not seen any of the movie. Marvel, what is it? Dc? I don't know.
Speaker 1:Whatever, you're not missing much with DC they put out much good movies. I don't know the difference, but Marvel has some great ones.
Speaker 2:I've seen a little bit of Spider-Man.
Speaker 1:You're not alone in that. A lot of people haven't. But it's just. It almost feels weird now that you haven't because that's such a big thing nowadays, like when we were growing up it wasn't as big, but like the mcu stuff you know, marvel cinematic, that's everywhere I feel like it's huge.
Speaker 2:You know, at this point, if a good movie comes out, I'll watch it. You know like I've seen a spider-man, I've seen, you know if there's a good technically spider-man wasn't.
Speaker 1:I don't know whatever there's. I mean, I'll explain what. Captain america, I don't know whatever. I'll explain this if you want Captain America, I don't know Captain America, that's MCU if one of those come out, that's really good.
Speaker 2:Sure I'll watch it but to go back and like watch all of it. Or even with Star Wars, I feel like at this point it's passed me by, like I mean, no, they're still making them. No, but I'm not back and watch them all and get caught up.
Speaker 1:It just only nine, just doesn't it only nine there's a lot of shows, but it's really nine movies.
Speaker 2:I can watch the nine or 15 what it is fast and furious before I watch the star wars uh, how many are there? Like 10 out of 11, at least 10 I thought it was like a 12 I remember the x one, so I know. So yeah, at least 10, at least 10 um, yeah, so marvel is like 30.
Speaker 1:There's so many of those movies. Yeah, it's too much. I've seen them all, it's just never ended. Probably multiple times.
Speaker 2:I've said this on the podcast before Hancock. That's about as far as I go in a superhero movie. That's the worst superhero movie ever. I say that just to annoy you. It's so bad. Which one?
Speaker 1:I'm not a huge Will Smithith fan other than I am legend. I think it's a fantastic movie.
Speaker 2:I love that movie but, like you know, men in black and I robot and so I never cared much for his character in men in black.
Speaker 1:I just it wasn't. I don't think it's played well now. The first one I thought was fine, he's younger, but then you get like two and three.
Speaker 2:It just it just became stupid don't get his uh wife's name in your mouth.
Speaker 1:Oh gosh, that's a joke too. If I'd have done that, I'd have been put in jail, Right Somebody like him. It's like oh you're just not allowed to come back to this. Okay, is that punishment, tell?
Speaker 2:me I don't have to come sit through or not, but it kind of seemed to.
Speaker 1:So I didn't watch it. I've only seen the clips of it, because shows like award ceremonies I don't watch.
Speaker 2:You know, when we have these award ceremonies, especially for the movies and stuff like that, I don't know half the movies they're talking about. It's like all.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's true, I don't know if it's over my head or what you want to call it, but it's not movies I watch yeah, but it's always like these deep in, like these films that are multiple meanings and they're super deep and I'm like I'm I'm watching something that's funny same way with half the tv shows anymore I'm watching something that, like I actually watched.
Speaker 1:uh, I finished a movie today called land of bad on net. I've never even heard of it. Military kind of a special forces thing. Actually really good. Something like that interests me. It's not going to win any awards, it's not going to be anything like that, but it was great. I enjoyed it. Liam Hemsworth starred in it.
Speaker 2:I thought it was a pretty good movie you have to check it out.
Speaker 1:It's pretty new but I really enjoyed it. But some of these movies that win awards are they're like oh, these are critically acclaimed. What critics like these guys that are paid to do this, like I don't? That makes no sense to me I am.
Speaker 2:I actually saw a uh like a little clip the other day on social media of old golf movies not not real, a few years old called uh seven days in utopia.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you've seen that I've seen the clips about this like a hundred times now yeah, I think I might have to go check it out.
Speaker 2:I can't stand I know the guy, I know, I know his his performance in tokyo drift was so bad so it's funny. I remember him more as a kid and I could not tell you the name of the movie. There was a like a horse movie where he rode a horse and he was like a little kid then and I remember that from years ago.
Speaker 1:I think I watched several things, but his, his performance in tokyo drift did it for me. I just like I can't. He's so bad yeah.
Speaker 2:So I don't know how to be, but it's it's like a christian-based film and yeah, I've seen stuff I've seen. I kind of want to check it out.
Speaker 1:Like the guys on the horse and throws in the book. I've seen some of that parts of it. I can't think of who the other guy is.
Speaker 2:The older guy that's in. It is a big name. I'm kind of excited. Happy Gilmore 2.
Speaker 1:I'm super excited for that.
Speaker 2:I don't know how that's going to be. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to something I hope it's not just overly stupid funny.
Speaker 1:I don't want that. Have you watched the old one anytime soon or anytime recent? Yeah, but I'm just afraid it's going to get worse. To me, it needs to be about equal. I feel like it has to be a little bit of that, because that's what that is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it could be a modern version of that.
Speaker 1:Now, what I don't want is something like Space Jam, the modern Space Jam, when they did it with LeBron.
Speaker 2:I never watched it, but I've seen clips. I have no desire.
Speaker 1:It is so bad. Like the old Jordan Space Jam was really good, but it was all these characters that literally everyone knows. You know all these. You know Bugs Bunny and all the Looney Tunes. The one now is like video games and it's a very, it's very modern, it fits the times, but it's not good. It's not good at all.
Speaker 2:What happened to the Looney Tunes? Has anybody watched Bugs Bunny anymore? I've let my kid watch it a few times, but it's like they don't come on TV, does it? You gotta go search it on YouTube, or something like that.
Speaker 1:I've not really looked. I've not really looked. I don't think that's. I watch.
Speaker 2:It's something anybody wants to watch anymore.
Speaker 1:I watch sports pretty much primarily, so I don't really know. My kids love Bluey Blue, fantastic. Um, they're making a movie, by the way didn't know that coming out like next year, year after, but yeah, blue is blue is great. Um, obviously, my kids, we do a lot of pop troll. They love, they love the pop troll um well, my kids love planets.
Speaker 2:They want planets and and body parts, and I know that sounds so weird, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1:It's not weird to me, though, because we literally bought your little one yes, a body. I don't even know how to describe it. It's like a biology kit for children.
Speaker 2:He knows all about the esophagus and the stomach. What was it?
Speaker 1:that wasn't there that he was mad about. There was some body part that I'm like like I don't even know what that is. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2:we're talking about three and four year olds, and, and this is yeah know all the planets and and like that's what they're into.
Speaker 1:So, um, that's good I guess I mean I mean it's cool, it's just it's yeah. Well, I mean your four-year-old, he knows all the states, all the capitals yeah where they go on the map. I mean yeah, he's been playing piano lately, teaching himself stuff, that's the way he is man it doesn't surprise me with him like we'll get a video and it's like, hey, you know he was playing this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's about right, like at this point, like it's not a surprise I'm the same way like it's surprising, but it's not like it's just, oh yeah, it's this point, that's I expected, that's what interests him and that's where he goes and that's what he wants to do, and I'm all for it. I want to be one of those parents that I want to show my kids everything, but let them find their own path.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean for my kids. I just want to be involved in something. I don't care what it is Music, acting, sports I don't care, I don't care, I just want you to do something.
Speaker 2:Do something.
Speaker 1:Do what you love, don't sit at home and play video games and don't tell me it's because I love video games, Because that's such a big thing these days of streamers and this Like you still got to be able to do other things.
Speaker 2:Like there's more to life. Video games have a place oh of course.
Speaker 1:Kind of a relaxing, you know yeah, yeah, until we play and we get beat by a bunch of 12-year-olds. That sucks Right and they beat us bad.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the glory days of these are over.
Speaker 2:Of what of us? Of video games, yeah, Wow, yeah, my glory days are long behind me at this point.
Speaker 1:But yeah, video games, that's something I guess our age grew up with because it was growing and becoming big as we were kids and you know, into middle school, high school. So, yeah, I mean that was a big part of it.
Speaker 2:You know, they say you know, from the 90s on is like the technology boom. Oh, absolutely, and I really think it is too, If you look at everything, whether it's computers or music or video games, cell phones. Cell phones I mean everything we do. We went from bag phones to a computer in our pocket as an iphone. We were like the last generation, probably before, like the internet and in in modern cell phones and and all this stuff. I mean we had internet, but it's like dial-up stuff and not a lot.
Speaker 1:I mean, I remember dial-up as a kid, yeah, so pick up the phone. You hear that awful noise it makes I can't imagine that.
Speaker 2:You know what is that? Uh, we're at 25, so 35 year span maybe. Yeah, I can't imagine if it has that same growth in the next 35 years. It'll be unreal where we're at.
Speaker 1:So I I was. It just made me think of I was watching a podcast and they said wait watching a podcast. Well, so they, they do a podcast, but they also video it.
Speaker 2:So I was watching them, so they're better than us is what you're saying.
Speaker 1:Most people are okay. Um, so I was watching it and they were saying kind of something similar along the lines of you know where technology is and ai. And they said, what's, what's a prediction you have for the next 10 years, like what's something you think will will happen, and so it made me start thinking about it. I'm like huh, like what do I think is something?
Speaker 2:I don't even know how to predict that.
Speaker 1:Well, so my thought is on AI. At some point, I believe, in the next 10 years, AI could get screwy on us. It could get questionable. Ai could get screwy on us. It could get questionable Because if you ask AI, can it think for itself? It tells you no Again. This is all programmed by people for it to do certain thoughts, but it doesn't actually do it itself and the whole spiel of it. Well, the problem is when you ask AI, who runs AI? And it tells you there's this governing body, and then there's these different groups and these like 10 different things. I'm like, all right, so it's a bunch of men or women, but basically a bunch of people that are putting their own thoughts and beliefs into it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:So at some point somebody is going to use it in a corrupt way. Yeah, so to me there's going to be something, some kind of big event using AI that's going to be negatively effective to the world or America or something in a bad way. See, like that's my thought.
Speaker 2:I still like to think when I put in something in you know chat, gpt or whatever that there's, you know an individual somewhere, some dude.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's happening.
Speaker 2:I really don't think that's happening that would be so cool if they're like yeah, this is AI, there's really like a room full of people, that's what people used to think about Siri that you were actually like speaking to somebody like there's this lady in a room somewhere that'd be cool
Speaker 2:speaking back to you yeah, of iPhones, hey Siri how many of those got activated just? Then Mine did, mine just did. Yours didn't. I don't, I never used my hey Siri or nothing Mine's turned on. I like to turn it on like that, like I'll yeah. So that probably activated a lot of people's.
Speaker 1:but there's a lot of people that thought that was somebody you were actually talking to, which would be kind of fun, but I think that was just somebody being really lonely hoping they had somebody to speak to.
Speaker 2:Well, that's even like. Siri just seems so old school, and I like the iPhone, that's just normal anymore?
Speaker 1:It does. Yeah, Everything is in your hand. It's no big deal. I mean, you have a computer in your pocket any given time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1:That's what my father-in-law used to say. Well, just look, google it on your phone right there. Yeah, just look it up right there. I mean you can.
Speaker 2:He'll probably get a kick out of that because he'll remember.
Speaker 1:He will, yeah, he will. I just think that's funny. Yeah, we used to say that all the time because it was like anytime somebody had a thought, I was like, yeah, just Google it, you can now Just do it. Yeah, you don't sit here and discuss things anymore, like you just look it up yeah, I don't need to ask you questions, I'll just look it up.
Speaker 2:You used to say, uh what? There's an app for that. Everything you know yeah, there is.
Speaker 1:There is an app for everything. Have you went and looked just for obscure stuff at any?
Speaker 2:point.
Speaker 1:I've never had the desire to do that but like I remember when I first got my iphone, there's like you had to have an app for a flashlight, like they didn't have all that on there yet. But there's like you had to have an app for a flashlight, Like they didn't have all that on there yet. But there's like the whips and there was like you could do your phone.
Speaker 2:I forgot about the whips. You remember that?
Speaker 1:Yes, like there there's all kinds of them. And then now, like we've got Angry Birds and we've got like there's, so like Pokemon Go, that you're out walking around catching Pokemon, like there's so many things.
Speaker 2:It's crazy. How did we go from the little snake game, where you had to push the numbers to make the snake go around, to an iPhone. The snake game was awesome. That was quick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I got my first phone in middle school, you know, moving around, traveling, sports and all that different stuff. And by the time I was, I guess, leaving for college, I got an iPhone and I didn't get like the first one, like I was like four was my first one.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I mean, I think three or something. There was the first one I got and I was around for a while.
Speaker 1:So I mean, yeah, like into high school, like you were already getting that.
Speaker 2:I don't know we're out of time here here, but at least one more question I want to ask you when's the correct age to give your child a phone?
Speaker 1:never. Is that? Is that acceptable? I mean, I don't know, in today's world sorry, you said phone, not social media yeah, well, social media is a whole nother that's a whole. We don't know where that's going, but um, yeah, so like you have kids.
Speaker 2:They don't have phones. Yet's going.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Like you have kids.
Speaker 2:They don't have phones yet.
Speaker 1:No, they do not, my oldest is nine, I guess in my mind it kind of depends. I got mine in middle school and it was really only because I was playing tennis in middle school and needing to call them and text them when we were getting back on a bus and be picked up, and so I really only got it for something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:If it wasn't for that, there's no telling when I would've got one.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what we did with my daughter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I remember she just got one this year and and that was the reason why, too.
Speaker 2:And that was the reason why, too, because you know you're at school, you're playing sports.
Speaker 1:I guess for me that's kind of where it's at at that point.
Speaker 2:Just depends on what you're doing maybe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to me it's kind of situational, like and again, to each their own. You are the parent, you do your own thing. For me, I don't see a point in my elementary schooler having one. Middle school is probably the earliest and kind of like I said, if he's not playing sports which again, I don't know what my oldest will do but he'll do something. He loves music, he loves acting, he loves sports, he loves everything He'll do something. So he'll do something. So, yeah, there'll probably be a need. But again, he's got an iPad. They watch stuff at home. He was texting me from it the other day. Now he's got very strict parental. Yeah, like it's. I think he's got like you guys on it.
Speaker 2:Uh, your daughter me amanda, like very mom and dad, like very easy to monitor your kids phone stuff because you can family, share stuff and see what's going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean as far as the phone, though, like I, I must say like somewhere around seventh grade, yeah, somewhere in that range.
Speaker 2:I think you're right. Of course I am. You mentioned iPads and stuff like that. You know all of my kids, even my three and four-year-old they're on iPads and stuff and they can do everything on them.
Speaker 2:Oh, they're so more advanced and I don't want them to just sit on them, but when you look at it and and they're just watching learning stuff and they're really learning, like all my kids learned really quickly the alphabet and the colors and the, like I said, the planets, and a lot of it was from that and that's where today's world is. So I sure you know if they're not overdoing it. I have no problem with young kids being on that stuff, so I'm getting accustomed to it and learning and and.
Speaker 1:I for me, and I'm I'm bad about it too. I'm on my phone way too much, but it just goes back to like it's so many screens in your face. You start talking about eyesight, like all that's bad on your eyes, like too much of it, like. So that's that for me. I would love to be able to limit my, my kids, a little bit more on it, but it's just. It's so much of the times it's hard.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Everything is done through that.
Speaker 2:I do everything on my phone, whatever you know, my my day job, stuff with the range, stuff with family stuff with you know I'm in in sports and you sports and everything is on my phone, everything. So that's why I'm on it all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I I agree. Um, here's the thing. I've got plenty to talk about, but here, very shortly it's gonna be a you show only because I can feel my voice fading fast. So for me, I'm to that point of I I'm gonna have to end you speak. As long as you want, I'll sit here and hang out I'm good I can hear it going a little bit.
Speaker 2:You know it started. What was it? When did I first know you lost your voice? I don't know, maybe over this past weekend or something, and I was like, man, I may get to talk in this show, you know.
Speaker 1:Then it came back, my wife probably said the same thing. She says it all the time. She's like you shut up, for it's usually just something is said and I spit it out there.
Speaker 2:No, I'm the same way. That's conversation. That's what you do, you know, so I have no problem with it. But yeah, I'm with you. That's a little gravelly, Is that the word? I don't know. Whatever Scratchy gravelly. Gravelly. I don't know if I've ever heard somebody's voice considered gravelly. Well, you Like the old school cowboys and stuff. They had this gravel in their voice type thing, Because it's just hard life.
Speaker 1:I still don't know if I've heard just gravelly, though.
Speaker 2:Well, now you have, you're welcome.
Speaker 1:That's not a term I'm going to use. I probably have a much bigger term for it.
Speaker 2:I'm sure you went on the toilet paper today, or calendar or something.
Speaker 1:No, today it didn't really have any relevance. How many people are going to believe that I actually have calendar or something? No, today it didn't really have any relevance. Okay, how many people are going to believe that I actually have toilet paper like that?
Speaker 2:Heck, I wonder. I don't know. You have a bunch of words.
Speaker 1:I feel like it would be too expensive. Family of four, you go through toilet paper, ain't?
Speaker 2:toilet paper one of those things you don't go cheap on.
Speaker 1:Oh, we don't. Yeah, some people do, we don't we don't.
Speaker 2:We try to find the middle of the road, I think.
Speaker 1:But no, we, that's one thing like, but you can't get the cheap. Shout out, ed like I don't know if he even listens.
Speaker 2:But I can tell you this if he taught you anything, he taught me growing up. You make sure you take care of the rear end there's just a few things that you don't go cheap, so maybe that'll be a topic for another day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I could do a lot of off-brand stuff. That ain't one of them.
Speaker 2:No, there's, there's. There's several things, that's that way 12 papers, one that'll probably be a topic next week.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I have some things I want to talk about, but yeah, I can barely talk at this no, I'm with that that.
Speaker 2:Okay, tune in. Next week we're going to talk about, yeah, things you can go cheap on off, off-brand.
Speaker 1:Um also remind me about this. Next week my brother put in a submission for a white trash sandwich to beat our PB&J. He had a couple of options that he's like. I got one. He said that I know some people. I think we have a new white trash champion sandwich. So we'll go there, but yeah, as my scratchy voice fades, as david says gravelly voice as it goes very quickly. Um appreciate you guys hanging out with us and just growing along with us and having a lot of fun yeah, thanks for listening.
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Speaker 2:Hey, just so you know, that was Brian's picks, not mine.
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