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Resolutions, Rivalries, and PB&J Revelry
Ever wonder why "Quitter's Day" earns its notorious title or how a simple sandwich can spark fiery debates? Join us as we kick off the new year with laughter and lively banter about New Year's resolutions, gym antics, and the infamous PB&J sandwich. We share our own resolution triumphs and failures, while humorously exploring the cultural nuances of this beloved American classic. Get ready for a mix of personal stories and spirited discussions that promise to entertain and resonate with anyone who's ever succumbed to the allure of peanut butter and jelly or the call of a New Year's resolution.
Our conversation takes an exciting turn as we dissect the college football landscape, focusing on powerhouse teams like Ohio State and Notre Dame. We dig into the strategies, financial dynamics, and controversies that shape these teams' paths to the championship. From analyzing defensive plays to speculating on coaching futures, our insights are as engaging as they are informative. Whether you're a die-hard sports fan or just curious about the intricacies of football, our takes offer something for everyone, peppered with humor and a touch of friendly rivalry.
Finally, we explore the broader sports world, from the unpredictability of SEC basketball to the complexities facing sports officials today. We tackle the controversial topic of load management in the NBA and its impact on fans and players alike. As we muse over the evolving nature of sports officiating and technology's role, our reflections remain grounded in the realities of fan experiences and the ever-changing dynamics of modern sports. With vibrant discussions and a bit of tongue-in-cheek commentary, this episode is a must-listen for sports enthusiasts and casual fans seeking a fresh perspective on the games we love.
Welcome back everybody to the Anatomy Podcast. I just want to get this out here because I feel like I forget every single week. We are proudly sponsored by 4U Golf. If David has to get on to me one more time about that, he might fire me, and I'd like to keep my job. So, that being said, I want to put that out there to start, and I know he's already smiling at me, so I know I've done well this week.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking, yes, you got it, I know. Finally, I put that in there and I tried to get it in early, so I knew that we were on the right path. Yeah, I'm always wondering is he going to say what he's supposed to say? Is he going to leave?
Speaker 2:something out.
Speaker 1:Typically, I know there's our friend, it's the start of the podcast.
Speaker 2:I know we're a little later tonight than normal we are.
Speaker 1:But again, thank you guys for joining us. Glad to have you back. We're excited. We've got plenty to talk about this week. There's a lot going on in everything Stuff that happened from last week's podcast that we're finding out more information.
Speaker 2:We've got some follow-ups on lots of stuff. College, on lots of stuff. College football happening yeah, peanut butter and jelly, just that.
Speaker 1:I mean, we stuck on that for a while last week and we've got more. We got a little bit more on that this week. Sorry if you're not interested, but we have to bring it up.
Speaker 2:So may have a new little segment coming up here shortly, so hang in for that.
Speaker 1:We do. Yeah, we're going to debut a new segment that will end up being being a weekly, weekly topic if it goes good if it goes well, if not, brian, you just, you just nix that out yeah we'll be good to go.
Speaker 1:But again, thanks for joining us. Again. We, uh, are continuing to enjoy the support from everybody. You know the texts, the people that come up are like hey, like it's getting better, like I don't know how to take that sometimes because I'm like, uh, that means it was bad, I don't know. But no, we're having a lot of fun with it and, you know, super excited for you guys to to be along with the journey.
Speaker 2:Um, well, I've got a quick question I just want to jump in with a question here for you, roll with it. Um, because, because I learned about this I don't know a while back, a few days ago, whatever it is. Um, apparently the second friday of january is called quitter's and it's the day that most people quit their New Year's resolution. Did we just pass that? That was last Friday, last.
Speaker 1:Friday yes so.
Speaker 2:I'm curious. Any New Year's resolutions that you already said nope, I'm out, it's Quitter's Day. Because I feel like Quitter's Day. When you call it Quitter's Day, that's a free out. If you're two weeks in and you're like, yeah, I want to do this, now's the time, it's like nobody's gonna get mad at you.
Speaker 1:Here's the day do it now or you're stuck forever. So, uh, so we kind of mentioned it a while back. I don't make a new year's resolution, so I can't really quit one. Um, I've quit plenty of things in my life, so that's not saying that I don't typically make a resolution.
Speaker 2:I'm the same way I don't make resolutions either, but apparently this is a big enough thing that it happens.
Speaker 1:There's a day for it. Yeah, there's a day which there's a day for everything nowadays, but there's a day for it. That's true, there is, isn't there.
Speaker 2:There's a name at least I wonder though can we use Quitter's Day Like make sure? You're good to go? No, it's already passed. If you're on a job, yeah. Now you've got to wait until next year. Sorry, yeah, you've got to wait until Quitter's Day next year. If you're planning on quitting your job.
Speaker 1:This year you cannot do it. Yeah, second Friday of January 26th, then you're allowed to quit Until then you would not the things that I look at on a daily basis, something like that's not going to pop up. So that's what. That's what makes me curious about it. I've got some random knowledge. I mean, listen, I got all kinds of random knowledge. None of it's helped me in today through through life.
Speaker 2:Now I do recall which I don't have a gym membership anymore. If you know me, you know that.
Speaker 1:But um, sorry, I didn't mean to laugh, I mean, you know it used to be a thing uh, kids and oh 100 life just gets busy, kind of keeps you busy, it does but I I do remember right after the first of the year, the gym would get packed and then as it went on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're not wrong. So a couple of my buddies on facebook were saying you know they have to change gym times because all the yeah, they called them resolutioners, I think something. They had a name for them. They're all here doing it.
Speaker 2:He said give it a few weeks and they'll all be gone two weeks and and they call it quick.
Speaker 1:Yes, um, I used to go to the gym when I did go, at like one two o'clock in the morning i'd'd say, yeah, I usually went pretty late or super early, depending on how you would look at it, depending on what I was working and all those things.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that was. But even then you would see more people than normal right at the first.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so there was a time in my old job that I may go at like 4.30 in the morning or 4 sometimes, depending on how busy we were, and if I saw somebody else, I'm always looking like why are you here? Like I know why I'm here Cause I'm working. I'm working through the night, but why are you here?
Speaker 2:Like it just didn't make any sense.
Speaker 1:So yeah, Um, if you miss quitter's day, sorry you got to wait till next year.
Speaker 2:It's past. You know you, everybody always talks about New Year's resolutions and I feel like it's always get in shape, get healthier, get closer in spiritual stuff, whatever it is. I don't want to hear the random New Year's resolutions.
Speaker 1:Something just out there.
Speaker 2:Like something very specific, like I'm going to eat more chicken this year.
Speaker 1:I don't know something random that's just, I think, for me. I'd almost rather it be not a resolution, but like I know it's a similar thing, but like a goal, like this year I want to travel to this place, or this year I plan on doing this. Yeah, like, because, like for me, if I was to do one, like in my mind, the first thing that comes to my mind is like to have a certain golf course that'd be like this year I'm going to play that course and I'm going to figure out a way to get to that course. Like that's something kind of work towards. It's really kind of hard to quit and if you don't make it this year, it's not like it's the end of the world, like you could still figure that out, but because you put so much pressure on yourself, it's like, oh, I'm going to get in shape. And then, when you don't, it's like you kind of fall back down that rabbit hole of how difficult it can be If you're not careful.
Speaker 2:you're pushing yourself to this goal because you think you have to, because you're January 1st, and then you're setting yourself up for failure, almost because if you're not ready, you're not ready. You've got to be ready for your goals.
Speaker 1:Again, don't take nutrition and exercise advice from us. If you know us, we're not the ones to ask that. But it's just kind of a statement that we both kind of think is there.
Speaker 2:If you listened to the last episode, you heard about all kinds of food. Nothing was healthy, so you should know right off the bat.
Speaker 1:No, we're all about the PB&J which, by the way, brian, you know where I'm going with this. Okay, we spent some time last week talking about Uncrustables, how great they are and how fantastic they are. But how lazy we are that we have to go get Uncrustables. Let's be real. Okay, we weren't going to go there. We're just talking about how great they are.
Speaker 2:They were great, but we're lazy that we won't make a peanut butter and jelly Okay.
Speaker 1:So last night we had basketball practice for our team that we coach, and after practice David reads me a post that had been put out there that Brian had never tried an Uncrustable, and that led into him talking to his wife about it. And she has never had a peanut butter and jelly of any kind.
Speaker 2:You know, so I've thought about this since then. Okay, so they have kids. Correct, does that mean their kids?
Speaker 1:have never had a peanut butter and jelly. You know Brian slipped them one. You think so? Oh my gosh. You know that he's had to have made them one. So my kid won't eat them. He doesn't like jelly. My oldest one, well that's. He loves peanut butter, he doesn't like jelly.
Speaker 2:So, and I that a little bit, because she was texting brian, um, because brian is her cousin, right. So, um, you know, if there's a peanut allergy I can understand that.
Speaker 1:That's so. There's probably people that have.
Speaker 2:Yeah hasn't had one because of that, but to my knowledge that's not the case right? Um, I think the I just took my mic out, sorry about this. Um, I think the we can't have nice phrase that I heard was Brian's wife, becca. She likes jelly, she likes peanut butter, but she's never had the desire to put them together.
Speaker 1:But they just go like there's the saying of it goes together like PB&J.
Speaker 2:Like those, go together.
Speaker 1:So she cannot use that saying no, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Something as simple as peanut butter goes with jelly Period, Like there's nothing else to say there well, and and I want like there's nothing wrong that she's never had it, it just took me by surprise. Well, first of, all, there's nothing wrong, that's, that's un-american now I want to know do they eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches in other parts of the country? Brian, and you need to get on that, you're okay um, so I do know, know.
Speaker 1:I did watch a video one time they were talking about with some people in the UK and they don't do it there. They don't do it. Pb&j, like that's not something they mix, Like peanut butter and honey, like they do some different things, but peanut butter and jelly that's a no. But then all the ones that tried it loved it.
Speaker 2:So does that mean is a little trashy American thing.
Speaker 1:A little white trash sandwich Maybe, I don't know. Hey, I'm all for the white trash sandwich If you're the elegant.
Speaker 2:You know, maybe Becca's a little more elegant than we realized.
Speaker 1:I'm going to make peanut butter and jelly a trophy, and until we find something more of a white trash sandwich than PB&J, it's going to hold the championship.
Speaker 2:That's it.
Speaker 1:And there's going to be something. You know there is Okay, white trash trophy. The white trash trophy is currently going to the PB&J.
Speaker 2:We'll definitely beat it with something, but yeah, that's on the list for the moment.
Speaker 1:Now we've got to figure out how to get a care package up there, because the Uncrustables are frozen, so we're going to have to do something. Me and Will talked about this yesterday. I like an Uncrustable. When it is just out of the freezer, just past the point of it breaks your teeth, well, you're wrong Once it gets to the point that you can then bite into it. That's what I like. I like it to be really cold.
Speaker 2:So have you ever in your life made a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and put it in the fridge and made it cold, or in the freezer and freeze it Like what?
Speaker 1:did you find out? To me, an Uncrustable and a peanut butter and jelly feel very different.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you're looking at two different things.
Speaker 1:In a way yeah.
Speaker 2:Gotcha okay. See, I want to thaw mine out and get a peanut butter and jelly sandwich without having to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Speaker 1:No no, because then I'm like all right now I'm ready to eat something, I'm going to go eat something.
Speaker 2:You know, after we had that conversation with Brian when we came home, I think I ate a peanut butter and jelly. I think my daughter got an Uncrustable out of the freezer.
Speaker 1:I had an Uncrustable last night. I think my wife made one last night.
Speaker 2:It just got on everybody's mind, I guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I've already thought about how we're going to do this, so I'm going to let them do the bread, because people are picky about their bread. Yeah, I mean, that's the one thing, but I'll pick out what I feel, jif, peanut butter being the best one. Jif is the best. I just think that Now can't go wrong with the whole Peter Pan.
Speaker 2:Definitely can't go wrong with it. Peter Pan peanut butter.
Speaker 1:That's a Peter Pan peanut butter in a long time, so I'll get the Jif creamy.
Speaker 2:You can't throw it into the crunchy side of things to start. That's too advanced. You've got to work up to that.
Speaker 1:That's an advanced PB&J. You can't do that. So the Jif creamy with grape jelly. Oh, it has to be grape, and I know there's currently a poll going on and I saw all of you that voted for the wrong jelly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we can't be friends well, here's what I learned there's two of you I am very close to and we, we have to have a talk so here's what I learned by the poll um and I haven't looked in the last few minutes or whatever, right, but currently strawberry jelly is leading grape jelly and what that leads me to believe is these people have never tried grape jelly, so I think they need to go to the store, get the grape jelly.
Speaker 1:I just think it leads me to believe that we can't be friends.
Speaker 2:I just I can't believe that somebody's tried both and still picked strawberry.
Speaker 1:Now I will say this. I got a text from my brother last week Right after we released the podcast. He's usually one of the first people listens to it. You know, shout out to Brad Love you, thanks for supporting it. But his immediate thing is I don't think I can continue. You just said grape is better than strawberry, and I knew he likes strawberry, he's always been a strawberry guy.
Speaker 2:I knew Brad. I'm so disappointed.
Speaker 1:I knew this and that that doesn't surprise me, but it was one of those that I remember saying it, but at the time like I wasn't thinking about that, so I had to think what he meant at first. Then I was like, oh yeah, I know exactly what he's talking about.
Speaker 2:Now, though, I want to think about this. Okay, I want to think about the people that we know who have said strawberry, is it a, is it a specific personality?
Speaker 1:Is it like? What's unique about Brad?
Speaker 2:we could be here a while, so that's different, but does anybody else kind of fit in that uniqueness that we're like? Okay, here's what it is.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, I don't want to like get out of a chart and like Venn diagram this thing.
Speaker 2:We can do that.
Speaker 1:Remember those little circle charts where they like overlap Is that what it's called lap, and that was called a venn diagram. Yes, god, stick with me. Oh, you're using big words. Come on, okay, you guys have made fun of me for vocabulary.
Speaker 2:Since I've met you, I haven't had to use the term venn diagram in so long I forgot what now?
Speaker 1:you're learning you're, you're. You didn't know. You're coming back. Okay, I'm gonna use that again sometime next time we talk about it or I mention it and you make fun of me for saying venn diagram next time you show.
Speaker 2:Show up for this podcast. I'm going to have a big board on the wall with a Venn diagram. We're going to go over this.
Speaker 1:Words I use on one side, words you use on another, and then very little in the middle. Yeah, probably that's about how that usually works. So there's a few things in common with several of those. There's a few that I don't know them as well to be able to tell you. Hey, they, they kind of fit that. Um, but yeah, two, two others, you know, paul and Christie people were close to I, I'm, I'm a little hurt. I'm a little hurt. Now I will say, and you know, shout out to both of them they're, I'm hoping, having a great time in Hawaii.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, I forgot they were in Hawaii, paul's doing a bunch of speaking down there or over there sorry, yeah, doing some great stuff. For sure, they got wrapped up in this winter storm that just hit us. And you know, here in western North Carolina we got in Brevard. We got maybe three inches of snow. It wasn't that much, but our area does not handle weather very well, so I was following his instagram so closely because it was killing me. Oh, it was funny. Them just documenting everything. They tried to leave for two days, you know, end up having to get picked up by some friends of theirs, end up staying. I mean, it was just, it was something non-stop and it was hilarious, so I loved. I loved watching that, um, so I hope to get to talk to him about that when he gets back I feel like it was one of the funniest things going on.
Speaker 2:You know the the infamous story of me driving in the yard and all that stuff. Um, I feel like they do a really good job when things like that happen, making the best of it, uh so well, and I talked about this with will, because me and will both are close with paul as well.
Speaker 1:You know, having coached with him and stuff and paul has stories man, he, just he. And then he knows not even that he just has stories. Paul's done so much in his life which love paul to death he's. He's been awesome to have, you know, kind of back around getting him but be involved with him as much as we are anymore. But he also knows how to tell a story.
Speaker 1:Like he is so good at just how he puts it out there and portrays it. I love you know so quickly like when we go play golf with him, I'm dying in the car the whole time.
Speaker 2:So I've always said, I've thought this as long as I've known Paul, his last name fits Because it's Oh's yeah, he's just witty.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's very, very witty. I 100.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree with him, you know, and so, uh, yeah, I've always thought that, but they do. They do such a good job when, when you know, they say when life gives you lemons, make lemonade so yeah, just I mean just really turning everything to a positive 100%, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I kind of want to jump in a couple things, because I had some topics that I've missed or just some stuff that were kind of past. You know, almost a week past, that happens a lot Past these things at this point. We had some college football games the other day.
Speaker 2:We did.
Speaker 1:We had two rather big college football games the playoff semifinals Something that has kind of been a big staple of our podcast here for the past two months, two and a half months, whatever it's been. At this point I just want to say how right I was About which thing?
Speaker 2:About Texas.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they played them way better than I expected.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think the Buckeyes played good and Texas was never really in it, I mean.
Speaker 1:Texas ain't any good. Stick into it If they don't fumble it there at the end near the goal line. If they would have gotten that in I mean it's a tight game so like they're in it, texas is no good still.
Speaker 2:I was right they lost. Go home.
Speaker 1:So I have a couple things about Texas. I think their zone defense gave Ohio State some fits because they did not run their typical offense. What we've seen the past two weeks of letting them just move in the ball Jeremiah Smith had three yards.
Speaker 2:When you have a defense like that, it's kind of that bend, don't break.
Speaker 1:Oh 100%.
Speaker 2:It really throws you off a rhythm a little bit. You have to be conservative a little bit, I think I agree that's what Ohio state fans have been upset about all year is stop being so conservative and so that one kind of felt like he was going back when really I think they had to be that way I don't think they did, though, like there's so many weapons on that team, put it in their hands and let them go to work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like they're. They're just. I felt like we're trying to run a pro stylestyle offense when that's not what they are Okay.
Speaker 2:So you think they kind of reverted back to what you saw in the season, first half of the season. I feel like that.
Speaker 1:I feel like they called the game like the first half of the season, when in reality the last two weeks they've looked more dangerous than any team in the country.
Speaker 2:They did. It's frustrating. I just don't know if they had a lot of choice. Yeah, you're right, they got a lot of weapons and different things they can do.
Speaker 1:As many coaches you have on a coaching staff and as much hours of film that you can get between those guys, you can figure it out. That's where that bothers me. I don't feel like they were willing to, in a way, take some chances, because the best offenses take some chances.
Speaker 2:I think you can be more conservative and I'm okay with that. But you've got a running game and a passing game and you should be getting something going and they kind of struggled with all parts of the game really for a little bit they got out of sorts for sure. Their number one receiver did he have a catch?
Speaker 1:He had one catch for three yards. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. So I'll say this they scared me for a bit. I got nervous. They did pull it out. The signs of a good team is when you don't play good, you still win. I've always thought that's the truth you may not have your best stuff, but you're still able to figure out a way to win. Now I do think Notre Dame-Ohio State is the best championship game we could have. Yeah, I think they are by far the two best teams currently.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying they've been that way all year, but currently. Yeah, we've talked about that. That's the game that needed to be the championship game, and if it didn't happen that way, I think a lot of people was going to be upset and it would have been lopsided either way I? I think so. Um, but now who? I haven't even looked at anything. Who in your mind is the favorite? Because we haven't said it, everybody should know now we don't give scores and stuff, but notre dame won their game.
Speaker 1:Ohio state won their game well, so notre dame, ohio state. Yeah, real quick on the notre dame thing, I and I keep hearing people say this well, georg, georgia didn't have a quarterback, but they weren't missing anything. On defense, georgia's defense is stout, that's a good defense. And Notre Dame still went out and put up points.
Speaker 2:Well, they put up that one. And then Penn State.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah. So I'm like you can't say they got stuck there. Well then they go play Penn State, who's a very good defense, who had their whole team, who had everything, and they beat them. So for me, ohio State beat Tennessee, good ball team Beat Oregon, then beat Texas. Both of these teams had some of the tougher routes there and have now proved themselves.
Speaker 2:I think that's what's good about this playoff system, because in years past, losing one game in the season would have not even got you in the championship, correct. And so we've had so many times where at the end of the year.
Speaker 1:I think it's the six and the eight, so these guys wouldn't have made it in the four.
Speaker 2:Well, at the end of the year we would not have had the best two teams at that time, because you're looking at it over the whole year. We've said over and over I don't need who's the best in the middle of season when we get to the end, I want the two best teams that are playing their best then and I think we finally got that this year.
Speaker 1:I'm looking forward to it. I think notre dame is very good. I really do. They're gonna be a. I think it's a good game, regardless whoever wins, I think it's gonna be very good game and I kind of want it to be a good game because that just makes for a better watch of football. Like I want it to be a good, tight, fun game. Who do you think is going to be the favorite? I think, without question, you've got Ohio State as a favorite.
Speaker 2:Is that because of the name or because you think they're playing better football right?
Speaker 1:now I think they've got $40 million worth of a roster. It better be a favorite.
Speaker 2:You know, I've heard a lot about that lately.
Speaker 1:So the number like I'm not saying the number Ohio State puts out, but the number that most people equate with it is Ohio State's $20 million roster. But then when you actually dive into it some of it what I've seen is it may be closer to $40 to $50 million for a college team roster which is unbelievable to me.
Speaker 2:Kirk Her herb street, who I I love, um again, he's ohio state guy, he's a whole state guy, but he he brings up a good point when, when you talk about all the money they did go out, yes, get a quarterback and some different things, but a lot of that money went to guys that are still there it did.
Speaker 1:So it's not like they went out and got a bunch of whole new players. It was to keep, exactly because they would have went somewhere else.
Speaker 2:No, I agree with that, but it is a team that's been together. Most of the team has been together for for several years now and, but they didn't have to pay him to.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying notre dame didn't go get some people, because obviously the the kid, they have a quarterback transfer from duke. He didn't come there for free, I'm sure. So you know they've got some, but obviously their, theirs is just not as big of a number. Um, I don't know what the line looks like so far, who's the actual favorite, but I would feel like Ohio State is partially because they played in a tough conference partially because of all those they've kind of had some bigger games.
Speaker 1:Notre Dame's schedule was probably not the best that I've seen it in years. Then they had a loss to a Northern Illinois team that most people didn't even know existed.
Speaker 2:I'm really having a hard time.
Speaker 1:I feel, like. Ohio State's probably the favorite, but Notre Dame's kind of a scary team. They're good defensively.
Speaker 2:They don't make a ton of mistakes they play good football, see, and again, I haven't seen it yet. Um, I think you're probably right. I think the favorite's going to be ohio state. But when you look at you know, coming to you know right before the the end of this season and coming into the playoffs, notre dame's probably been playing the better football overall. Now, ohio state turned it on there the last two or three games, but Notre Dame has been the better team, I think, overall.
Speaker 1:According to ESPN, the current Ohio State is an eight-point favorite. Eight points. They opened at nine and a half. I think that's a lot. They opened at nine and a half and they've lowered it since. I think that is a lot. Now, if you get the Ohio State versus Oregon or Ohio State versus Tennessee, 8's not going to cut it.
Speaker 2:But I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't think Notre Dame wants a track race. They're not one that's going to just go out and put up 50. Ohio State's nearly done it twice in three weeks so that's where I'm like.
Speaker 2:I don't know that you can say for sure are you worried that notre dame is going to come out and play that same style of defense texas did?
Speaker 1:or does that?
Speaker 2:just not fit them not one bit I.
Speaker 1:I think they're going to mix up, throw you different things, because notre dame is much better in the secondary. They've got some individuals that can really play, where I feel like Texas kind of just. You're kind of trying to hide some guys, not that they're not good, but it's more athleticism, not necessarily just very good at that position.
Speaker 2:We've had this conversation with basketball, talking about Kentucky in specific. A team like Kentucky basketball right now plays better against another talented team than they do a team that's not talented and has to muck it up a little bit. And that's kind of what I feel like Ohio State went through with Texas. Texas kind of had to muck it up a little bit. They couldn't get in a track race with them, and so that's what I wonder what it's going to look like another day.
Speaker 1:What I'll say for Texas. Texas does a good job. They blitz almost every play. Now it doesn't necessarily mean that they're bringing More than typical, but they are sending somebody from an odd place. They zone blitz everything. But Ohio State's not played many teams that needed to run a zone. They've had guys that could play man, whether it's too high safety.
Speaker 1:That's because Texas isn't any good. They couldn't play man. So I think that'll change for Texas being in the SEC now. I think they will get better defensively because I think you have to Coming from the Big 12 where it's who can score 61st wins. That's kind of how those games felt Like it was basketball scores the old Big 12 was scoring more points than the Big 10 was in basketball.
Speaker 2:You see a lot more defense in SEC Big 10, I think than you did in some of those other conferences.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean especially Big 10 for years has been known as we're going to play good defense, we're not going to score a lot of points and we're going to run the ball. That's just what they did. I think you're going to start seeing that change too, because the addition of somebody like an Oregon who now in Ohio State runs it more you know the old Wisconsin way of let's go one by one, running back in the backfield, we hand it off, we run straight at you and get a bunch of yards wing t power.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everything is much faster paced.
Speaker 1:It's much more spread out like. The game has changed a lot. So I think you'll see the Big Ten change a little bit in that direction, but then I think you'll see somebody like an Oklahoma and a Texas go back to. We've got to generate some more defense because that's how they're going to win in the SEC.
Speaker 2:I want to get your pick in a minute, but what about no SEC team being the championship game? Does that hurt what they've been yelling all year? Even we've been saying that SEC's so good they're beating each other up or is that just a product of that happening?
Speaker 1:So my thought on that is I still think the SEC is very good. I think they're the deepest conference, without question. I just don't know that their top is as good as the top everywhere else. So, like the Texas and Georgia, who are both good teams, I don't feel like the top of the SEC was as good as the top of the Big Ten, which is Ohio State, oregon, penn State.
Speaker 2:So was Georgia. Until they lost their quarterback. Was they as good as Ohio State, Notre Dame, these other conferences? And did Georgia get worse because of the SEC schedule they had to play in? They were beat up, banged up, quarterback got hurt, so on.
Speaker 1:I know it didn't happen in the season, but is that a product of it? It was the SEC championship game.
Speaker 2:It was still a conference game, but they got hurt, which.
Speaker 1:that injury could have happened in any game. It could have been against Georgia Southern, it could have been anything, just the way his arm got pulled.
Speaker 2:So is that why the sec isn't there, because they beat upon each other? Or are they? Or do you in your mind? Are they just not as good as ohio state notre?
Speaker 1:dame, I I just don't think the sec, the top of the sec, was as good as other places this year. Okay, I I think the sec from one to almost probably 10 was better than everybody else's, one through 10. Oh yeah, I don't question that, it's just I think.
Speaker 2:What I really see is that the top of it wasn't the top of the country this year where typically, like you know, a Saban Alabama, you knew they were going to be a top three, you know that's a very good point, because to me it almost feels like a lot of these kids who you know they want to play in the SEC they're from the South, whatever Right Before they would go to Georgia, alabama. You know a couple of schools and now maybe we're seeing them spread out to all SEC schools. Money talks, exactly.
Speaker 1:You pay me enough money, you're going to go anywhere when?
Speaker 2:you look at, maybe the Big Ten, the kids from up north in that area. I still want to go to ohio state. Yeah, I still want to go to penn state. Like I'm not going to these lower schools and maybe, like you're right, it's not the money. And speaking of that money part. So I heard a uh, a clip on a podcast show I listened to. Um had an ex uh college player on the show and I won't get into who it was in the show and all that stuff, but um, they made a comment about nil or something and his statement he played probably I don't know six, seven, eight years ago, something like that. His statement was yeah, we did an nil different back then oh, I mean it's been so, it's been happening for me.
Speaker 1:It has but to hear somebody like that come out and just say, yeah, we did like we did it, so it cracks me up because that makes me think of when, uh, you know, the comedian shane gillis was on with pat mcfee and then they went on to college game day and you know the fact of him calling nick saban uh, alabama jones, because that hat he was wearing like I it just it cracked me up because I'm like that's, that's something he would say, but I don't know that saban took that as funny as everybody else did probably not.
Speaker 1:It's not funny what happens to, but you know he's a big Notre Dame fan, shane Gillis is, and he was talking about. You know now that everybody's allowed to pay, not just the SEC. You know kind of just making a joke, because that's what he does, yeah, and Saban got very defensive. I never paid my, you know, but all of these big schools have been having money change hands for many, many, many years and I don't know if it was necessarily money, but it was good services.
Speaker 2:Whatever it may have been, there's been something, life was easier for them and their family, whatever it was. But yes, I think I think it's been across the whole country, not just sec. I think big tim's doing I think big, I think yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 1:I think it's just easy for them to talk about the sec because they've been so dominant for for so many years. When alabama kind of stopped being the 100 dominant team, georgia took over like it was just sec, just kept.
Speaker 2:You know the? The d1 schools are in the spotlight, but I bet you go to d2 schools. It's the same thing. They're stealing players from this school and that school and trying to get them here.
Speaker 1:I mean the transfer portal is across everything.
Speaker 2:It's not just high school schools, it's not just D1.
Speaker 1:Oh, don't get me started. That's what I'm saying here locally we have kids that get, you know, absolutely just taken by a couple of private schools locally because they can do that.
Speaker 2:They can give stuff they can give. It's all of a sudden you've got scholarships and you've got this.
Speaker 1:That like, yeah, you weren't gonna get it any other way.
Speaker 2:Yeah so it's always happened, but it to me it was uh unique to hear somebody that's been there just say it out loud, because everybody's been so hush, hush. Oh, that didn't happen, that happened and now that's legal. What are they gonna do now?
Speaker 1:so it's like yeah I mean, you're not gonna go back and mess with it now. It just wouldn't make sense. But a hundred percent, I feel like you're just trying to hope for more integrity than was really there to to say it didn't happen. Yep, so yeah, I, I'm gonna get off the nil stuff because I'll keep going. Uh, yeah, so I do. I know you're talking about picks. Yes, what are you picking? And I'm trying not to do this as a fan that's me too.
Speaker 2:Um, I want ohio state to, of course, and I look back at the season. Ohio State had Right. They lost to Oregon by one at Oregon. Yep, they should have won. If Will Howard gets down on time, I assume they would make the field goal.
Speaker 1:I don't know that's Ryan Day's fault. That's not Will Howard's fault. No, I agree. As a coach, you have to manage time way better.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm not accusing him at all. I'm just saying that's what happened. But even throughout all that, they didn't look good. But they didn't have to look good to win.
Speaker 1:And then they go to.
Speaker 2:Michigan and we know what happened there Still huge rivalry. It is that happened all over college football all year.
Speaker 1:Now, real quick, before you say what you're about to say. We said this before Ryan Day is not safe unless he wins a championship. Do you still feel that way he's safe? You think so he's there.
Speaker 2:Everybody that was jumping off is back on.
Speaker 1:I don't know that. I'm okay with it, though Two games doesn't change my mind about what we've seen for four years. No, I think it's.
Speaker 2:It's recency bias is what it feels like. It's not even the last game, because the last game didn't do him any favors. Oh no, in Texas. No, it's how they beat Tennessee and Oregon. That, I think, kept him his job, him showing. Hey, I'm willing to open this up, not be as conservative and go.
Speaker 1:I think it's body If that can stay. But again, it's recency bias. You've seen he's had three big wins Prior to that. He had zero wins Before this season. Zero wins against a top five team. The only reason we got one this year is because we beat Penn State. It didn't look good in that game. It didn't look good offensively. If we wouldn't have had some defensive stuff score for us, we would have struggled. That's pretty much it. He's not proven himself. If we wouldn't have had some defensive stuff score for us, we would have struggled. That's pretty much it. He's not proven himself over the last four years. So I'm like, yeah, you're going to end up with a contract extension because you've made it far enough, but I just don't know that you really deserve it.
Speaker 1:I just don't know that I agree with it If they made a change.
Speaker 2:I don't think I'd be that upset.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I wouldn't be upset. Change. I don't think I'd be that upset. Honestly, I wouldn't be upset. So I don't think you make a change. I think my thing is don't touch your contract If he's got one to two more years, let's see where they go. I don't think you should get so many and so many sports and so many different leagues. This coach will make this big run and they're like let's lock him down for eight years. Yeah, you don't need that. One one run doesn't correct the last four years, like there's still issues.
Speaker 2:No, for me, I've seen that he's willing to change, willing to open it up, willing to let the oc you know uh be more explosive with the players they have. I think, no matter what happens in championship game, I think it's earned him another year to see if he can keep doing it, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:So when I say that I don't think he should be fired, I don't think that, but I also don't think we should say well, he made it to the championship, let's extend him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely do not extend.
Speaker 1:Let's see what he does next year because he's about to lose a ton. Because he's about to lose a ton, you open the season with Texas next year.
Speaker 2:Let's see what happens. Well, that was what my thought was too is what's his team going to look like next year?
Speaker 1:What's the players coming in. How's the?
Speaker 2:recruiting going to be? Who are they going to go get?
Speaker 1:and bring in. They have no idea what's going to be at quarterback. It's going to be interesting.
Speaker 2:The thing that makes it different for me a little bit is it's ohio state, so if you let ryan day go, you should be able to get a good coach back. So that's where I'm okay with it. If it was like we don't know who we're gonna get, and it could be, some, that's true.
Speaker 2:That might sway me a little bit more, but I'm good either way. They do give him another year, see what he does at this point. Or if they say, no, you lost to michigan, every year we're gonna go another way, straight stuff. You know, I'd be okay with that too and we'll see where it goes um. But with all that said, seeing the way they played against, uh, tennessee and oregon, I was like, yeah, they've got it all. And then I saw how they played against texas. Didn't love again, texas bucked it up a little bit. I feel like notre dame has been on a rail lately, right, like nobody slowed them down really much so so does that mean you're taking Notre Dame?
Speaker 1:Because I mean I know the fan in you doesn't want to, but trying to sit there and really think of it, is that who you're thinking?
Speaker 2:So I said, when this is tough for me to be honest with you, because I said when the college football playoff started, ohio State's coming out their back's against the wall they have to do something different. They know it, the coaches know it. They gotta do something different now, like what we just talked about, because they've got where they are and they played good a couple games. Do the coaches feel like we've bought ourselves some time? Now we can kind of go back the way we was? And that's what I'm worried about, because we just said, you know, oh yeah, he shouldn't fire him, let's give him another year when, if he didn't beat Tennessee, it was see you later. I gotcha Right. So did they buy him some time that they can be comfortable? And that's the one thing I'm worried about with him?
Speaker 1:So, with that said, who are you picking?
Speaker 2:You're really putting me on the spot.
Speaker 1:here I am because you're talking your way around it like you're trying to figure a way out of picking Notre Dame it sounds like you're thinking Notre Dame.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not. I'm really torn to be honest with you because, as a fan, I want Ohio State to win and if Ohio State comes out as they were, they're going to win, no problem.
Speaker 1:I've got to think about Notre Dame a little bit. So when it comes down, to it.
Speaker 2:Let's talk our way through Notre Dame here. Like who's Notre Dame beat and looked just amazing. I say they've been on a rail because nobody's really slowed them down, but they've not just been.
Speaker 1:So here's the thing about Notre Dame they lost to Northern Illinois, looked awful, couldn't establish a run, couldn't throw the ball, couldn't do anything. Ever since that game they've not skipped a beat. They've come out, they've committed we can run the ball. We've got two guys that have run the ball efficiently all year. We've got a quarterback that can do it and then when you decide that you need to fill the box, we're going to sling it because they've got they've got great tight ends, they've got solid receivers. They can play with anybody. They've got the talent. It's just. And I think they've got a coach Freeman's fantastic coach. I love you know. Again, he's an Ohio State guy, played at Ohio State, so he he knows what it's like to be around big football. He's not come from tiny stuff, he comes from big-time football, so the game so far has not been too big for him. He's looked good since he took that job and now we're really seeing he's coming to his own and Notre Dame's a good football team.
Speaker 2:I know and that's the thing we're really talking like Notre Dame is the better team right here.
Speaker 1:Unless Ohio State comes out with what we know they can do. So, with that being said, I'm putting you on the spot. You have to pick somebody Notre Dame, Ohio State who's going to win?
Speaker 2:it. Man, I don't have an answer. I've got to think I've got to have a minute. Let me thank you. You talk a little bit.
Speaker 1:Man knew he was recording tonight and he hadn't even thought about this.
Speaker 2:No, I have thought about it because I thought I would have an answer and I thought I knew my answer and I think it's going to be a really good game.
Speaker 1:I really do, um I think the stars come out. I think we may see some plays we've not seen all year.
Speaker 2:Okay hold up. I don't know where you're going, okay, and I don't want you to persuade me either way okay, so you have a pick, because you're sitting here thinking hard.
Speaker 1:I mean, I can see the steam coming off your head well thinking.
Speaker 2:I don't want you to persuade my thought okay, okay, I know I'm very persuasive.
Speaker 1:I can get you either way at this point. No, no, because you're stuck in the middle.
Speaker 2:No, no, you. Ohio State, ohio State, Ohio State. Part of me wants to pick Notre Dame because I'm a Ohio State fan and I can win either way because I'm that close Right. But I think at the end of the day they still got to win, because some fans might still not like Ryan Day there. If he doesn't win the championship, it might take the championship to save his job.
Speaker 1:I'm taking the Irish. Are you Okay? I am, and the reason being I think for the first time all year they may do a slight two quarterback system that nobody's ready for. The kid in the back is a pocket passer that can absolutely sling it, and if you're rotating in and out and they show things that have not been seen all year, you can't stop it.
Speaker 2:If you don't have film on it there, you can't stop it what worries me with notre dame again is their coach, and you saw the willingness to come up with something unique, that what he did against georgia with running the 11 off in the punt team. 11 on 11 off so you're right, you don't know what you're gonna see, I I just think.
Speaker 1:I think it's been what since? Like the 80s, since Notre Dame's won a championship? I think it happens. You think this is their year. I hate to say it as a Buckeye fan, but I think it happens.
Speaker 2:They're a good ball team.
Speaker 1:They can play defense, they can run the ball, They've got a great offensive line. They're missing a few pieces. They have alignment that just was ruled out today but they're a good ball team. They play an NFL-style game which can be hard to cover but at the same time they can throw in the wrinkles of. You know, our quarterback can take off at any moment. We run quarterback power, we run draws, we run all kinds of stuff. I think they're tough and I think it's going to be a good game.
Speaker 2:I didn't think they were going to beat Georgia even without their starting quarterback.
Speaker 1:I didn't question that because I don't think Georgia can score with the backup. Defensively, georgia's good. What I said at the very beginning of the playoff about Penn State I've got some buddies that are big Penn State fans and I said the same thing to them If Penn State can score points, they can beat anybody. They couldn't score points.
Speaker 1:They could not consistently score points. Defensively they are fantastic, Couldn't score points. Notre Dame can score points, can play good defense, can make you turn the ball over, can do all of it. So in my mind, Notre Dame is going to win, and again I hate to say that I don't want it to happen, but I think that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2:Like you said, I've been on the fence so I have no, I can't argue that with you. I mean, I think Ohio State's going to win because I think they're the more explosive team, but I don't know if Notre Dame's going to give them explosive plays, but I think they're going to come out. You know when's the last time Ohio State won a championship?
Speaker 1:First year of the playoff 15? It was the first year. They went to the 14th yeah so something like that.
Speaker 2:Was that with Cardale Jones, the third string quarterback? Yep it was. It was. That's not acceptable for Ohio State. That was what Urban Meyer's Was it Urban.
Speaker 1:Meyer, Second to last year last year, ryan Day's first year, I can't remember.
Speaker 2:Somewhere around there. I can't remember either.
Speaker 1:No, it wasn't Ryan Day, because he hasn't won championships. It would have been Urban Meyer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's unacceptable at Ohio State. So thinking about that, if he doesn't win a championship?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think they do. I don't know what they'll do with there.
Speaker 1:I don't want to see an extension either way.
Speaker 2:They have too many weapons to lose this game. And so while I sat here and talked Notre Dame up, and you did too, if Ohio State loses, it's their own fault. They have so many weapons on that field. They do.
Speaker 1:But they're also a team that relies on the big plays and Notre Dame doesn't give up a lot of big plays Like a team that needs that explosive big play. Like you, look at the game against Texas right there before halftime big screen play, 75 yards and then the pick and then the fumble recovery by their linebacker who runs it back.
Speaker 2:No, you're right, Without those it was big, big possibilities.
Speaker 1:If Notre Dame doesn't allow the big play, can Ohio State drive down the field and then score.
Speaker 2:Oh, probably not, Because against Texas.
Speaker 1:They drove down the field and then had a couple of stupid penalties and then punted it.
Speaker 2:I think you're 100% right. That's probably the key to the game, because Ohio State has to have some explosive plays. So if Notre Dame can shut those down, you're right, that's going to be the tale. That's so. If Notre Dame can shut those down, you're right, that's going to be the tell. The fact that we're having this conversation, even as Buckeye fans and worried about the game, says we got the two right teams there and while I didn't like some of the seeding and the buys and some of those games, the end we got what we needed, what we wanted, and so hopefully they don't mess with it too much to mess that up. But the earlier games could have been a little better in that. Probably second round, I guess, is where it could have been better.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think we've got to do a better job at figuring out that kind of 9 through 12. That section through there was a little maybe.
Speaker 2:Well, you, took teams who probably maybe even shouldn't have been in or would have been the bottom two or three, and you gave them a bye because they won the conference or would have been the bottom two or three and you gave them a bye because they won the conference.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah that's kind of what I want to figure out. That's tough. Better teams should get byes, not just because you won a conference. Like you could win a conference and kind of sneak your way in, kind of like an Arizona State did, but probably shouldn't have had a bye though, Like being in okay, maybe I can see it, but getting a bye is tough.
Speaker 2:So I'm maybe I can see it, but getting a buy is it's tough. So I'm gonna put up a, uh, a venn diagram so it's called venn diagram of with notre dame hall state. We're gonna put all this stuff in there. That way you've got it so you can see our thoughts.
Speaker 1:You know I don't want you to I don't really think that would fit in a venn diagram, but I just want, you just want to use the word. I want to use, I want a reason, no, no, what I want is a reason to actually draw a Venn diagram for you.
Speaker 2:Just so you know, because you used the word I want to make sure we, you know.
Speaker 1:keep that. I used the word. You were already trying to talk about it. You were saying the thing with the circles and but I was talking about like a normal person.
Speaker 2:I wonder how many people just in a normal conversation could come up with the term Venn diagram off the bat.
Speaker 1:I think it's more than you think. So you're calling me dumb. You want to take an over-under. I'm not calling you dumb, I mean I would call you dumb. I'm not calling you dumb, but I mean I'm not afraid to.
Speaker 2:I think I probably have at one point.
Speaker 1:Do you have an over-under on that?
Speaker 2:Listen, I'm just a man that uses more common sense than the book. Smart occasionally.
Speaker 1:If you know me at all, my job is to fool you to think that I'm smart.
Speaker 2:I just gotta use big words to fool you.
Speaker 1:I don't have to actually be smart.
Speaker 2:That's where it comes in. That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1:See, I fooled you for years. We've known each other a long time at this point, and you're just now figuring this out.
Speaker 2:Things are coming full circle that I'm remembering here.
Speaker 1:He's actually an idiot. How did this get by me so long, I wondered?
Speaker 2:You just got an encyclopedia on your phone. You just keep finding words of the day.
Speaker 1:That's what it is One of those words of the day calendars. No, it's the toilet paper, the word of the day toilet paper. Each sheet has one. Okay, yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 2:So Vin I just hit it.
Speaker 1:That was the word of the day. Didn't need it today.
Speaker 2:So we talked about SEC football a little bit and being so good, so I want to transition to SEC basketball this year. Is it going to be the same way, with all these teams beating each other up and I know that's a great?
Speaker 1:transition over, but it's looking like it. The SEC is stacked in the top 25, and we've seen upset after upset. We were talking about it last week and I was like, oh, tennessee's really good. They lose by 30 to Florida, after Florida just got beat by Kentucky and then actually Florida's playing currently getting beat by an unranked Missouri.
Speaker 2:Auburn's playing good. I think Alabama just got beat by Ole Miss.
Speaker 1:Alabama's top five and they just got beat. Mississippi State is up there ranked, I mean, there's so many teams.
Speaker 2:Well, so Georgia beat Kentucky. Georgia wasn't even ranked, correct. Then Kentucky goes to beat Mississippi State, who was ranked yeah, and they're just beating each other up. Make it make sense is what I'm trying to think at this point. So do you feel the same way with football, that they're deeper, but maybe the top teams aren't as good as you know your North Carolina?
Speaker 1:Dukes. No, I think the top of the SEC is still a top of the SEC. It's still a top, but I don't think the gap is huge. I think they're all really good and the top is still the top. The bottom is still really good, but I don't think the gap is huge. Where, like the ACC Duke is coming to their own right now, cooper Flagg. Where, like the ACC Duke, is coming to their own right now, cooper Flack's playing amazing and that scares me.
Speaker 2:As a Tar Heel fan, I don't want to play that team. But so does SEC's top teams, and I'm going to say probably Auburn, tennessee maybe Alabama, auburn, tennessee, alabama, right now. Florida? I don't know we'll see yeah, um. Are those teams as good as the ACC top teams Duke and Carolina hang?
Speaker 1:on, hang on ACC top teams you stop at Duke. Hang on, hang on ACC top teams you stop at Duke. Is that it? Everybody else is pretty rough this year. Carolina is not having a great year. Duke right now is the standout and they are standing out Like they are nationally standing out.
Speaker 2:So who's your other standouts? You see throughout the country the other conferences.
Speaker 1:I mean you're still seeing Kansas, You're still seeing UConn, You're still seeing Kansas, You're still seeing UConn, You're still seeing kind of the same old, same old. But I think what you're seeing is that it's dominated by the SEC currently. I mean top 25, I want to say they have like eight teams. I mean it's ridiculous how many teams they have in the top 25 right now. For one conference to have that much is pretty impressive actually.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is. They're projecting right now, I think, 13 SEC teams to get in the tournament or something like that. So I don't know how that works, because when you say in 13 are going to get in and really the rest of their season is playing each other, that means they're going to get no bad losses, because who they're going to lose to is already in turn two, especially the way that the basketball March Madness works, that they have these different tiered wins.
Speaker 1:They have a label for everything. If you lose to a big team away, that's such a high tier that it really doesn't hurt you. It's when you lose to a bad team at home, or technically for Kentucky, the Georgia game, it's bad loss, but it depends on what Georgia does they were on the road.
Speaker 2:They were on the road.
Speaker 1:They were on the road to a Georgia team that's only lost twice that year already, so it's not like it was an 8-18. They were 11-2.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say this because last week I talked a little bit about the officials, because I went to that game and I thought more and more about it and I said over and over, I don't want to make excuses for my team, don't make excuses for my team, and I've been watching these games and the officiating in college basketball is horrible. It's pretty bad, yeah it.
Speaker 1:I feel like they guess all the time, and most of the time it's probably right, but a lot of times it's not well, I think, I think all officiating, and I'll say nba, college, high school, they are too swayed by somebody flailing an arm or flipping their head back or like they just naturally it's like, oh, something happened, I gotta call foul and they don't really know what they're calling.
Speaker 2:Are the players so athletic, fast, tall, jump high that the officials can't keep up like literally watching everything? If that's the case, add another.
Speaker 1:I I'm with you. Add another, because if you, if you are too slow to keep up with those guys, add more now. That doesn't mean I need you to call more. I just think you need to be in better position. And if you can't do it with three, add four, add five I don't care at this point, whatever you need.
Speaker 2:Just again I'll say it make it make sense, and it's not in just like a game that I'm rooting for my team or whatever it's in every game, no, all the big games.
Speaker 1:I'm watching it's happening constantly.
Speaker 2:And so I thought about it afterwards when I said do I don't want to blame, I kind of do, because I heard I'm going to blank on the name the coach the other day was saying he got thrown out. Was it Nick Cronin? Maybe somebody, somebody, I don't know. So yeah, um, and he's like I've had enough. Like like this is this is ridiculous, and it's been that way in every game. I so I complained about georgia at kentucky and I think georgia shot something like 39 free throws to at the end, finally, kentucky had like 15 the very next game until the last five minutes.
Speaker 1:It was, it was crazy.
Speaker 2:But the very next game georgia played and I can't remember who it was I have to look back to see who they beat the other day it was like georgia shot 30 something at home and their opponent shot like nine right. So two games out on georgia's court. They shot 70.
Speaker 1:Some free throws to their opponents the big question is georgia paying officials?
Speaker 2:well, I mean you know, these officials rotate around so I can't imagine that's the case, but something is clearly going on. Maybe that's the way they play, maybe they're good at faking, you know, like you said, throwing the head back and things like that.
Speaker 1:So that's what I hate, is I hate an official that automatically goes to the reaction Like as soon as somebody you know flops, and they fly out of the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2:I want to point this out. You hate something too with me, so you're coming on to the hate side a little bit. Hang on.
Speaker 1:If you were a fan of sports, you hate officials. That's across the board. I'm with you and I don't know how to fix it.
Speaker 2:That's the problem.
Speaker 1:That's across the board and I think, part of being a fan, you're made to hate officials. They're supposed to be the bad guy Like you want your team to play well and you want good games, and the officials are always stopping it and slowing it down and all those things.
Speaker 2:I'm okay with them being wrong, some because they're human. Well, it's going to happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not saying I need you to be perfect, I mean the whole thing, like in baseball. I'm still against robot umpires. I don't think that's a good idea because I think those guys are so talented if they just barely touch something, but they get some bad calls. There too, they do. But there's some good umps out there, like there are some that show in the StatCast stuff that they were 100% Like they literally are perfect. So why are we going to say, well, you're also going to get replaced, like to me, just get rid of the bad ones.
Speaker 2:That's understandable and that's something you know. I think basketball officiating is way worse than any other sport and I don't know why that is. I feel that way. You get some officials in football, baseball, everything that make calls Basketball and maybe it just affects the game.
Speaker 1:More Basketball stands out more so I I don't know that I would agree with basketball being worse, because an umpire in baseball, if you make him mad, you're done the the strike zone that he's going to change to the stuff that he's going to call. I mean, this past year we were seeing guys get thrown out of games just for shaking their head like it was stuff that was like you have got to be kidding me, Like get out of your feelings, Like call the game so why don't they get rid of these officials?
Speaker 2:Because you see it.
Speaker 1:Contracts, unions, they can't. I mean, they finally got rid of one. That was what, 50 years past his prime I don't even know if he ever had a prime and they really just more have talked him into it Like, hey, you're just old, let's try to get you out, let's get you out. And he was terrible, and it was the same one that was always like, oh, there's a bad call, I bet you. It was so-and-so Like as an umpire, I shouldn't know your name, you shouldn't be so bad that we know your name.
Speaker 2:That's in every sport. We should not know them, and we know a lot of them. We know too many, yeah, and I see this all the time. Would it help if they had to answer to the press and stuff after the game, like the players and coaches do? Kind of hold them a little more accountable.
Speaker 1:You would have to have some classes for them, because there are some.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I don't want Coach Speak, I want them to have to.
Speaker 1:No, no no, take, for example, like a Joe West in baseball. You don't want him with a mic. I'm just saying like the way that he just will absolutely explode on somebody. He's going to do that at the press and then now the league is going to have to be responsible for that and handle it.
Speaker 2:It's a little crazy. Then your requirements to become an upper official is different.
Speaker 1:You've got to be able to handle the press. I don't necessarily think we should have that because, again, I don't really care about press conferences, even when the coaches do it. That doesn't mean much to me, so I'm not really going to care for the officials to do it. But I think we need to hold them accountable more than just you didn't have a great game, let's fix that. No, like if you are wrong, a player gets fined. Why can't an official get fined? That's a good point. Why can't he not get to? Like it takes a lot for them to say, well, you're not going to get this big game. Like you have to be really, really bad or have made somebody mad.
Speaker 2:Well, you've kind of pointed out baseball umps and how bad they can be. Yeah, so if somebody was there waiting on them when they got done, even if it wasn't in front of the press, whether it's head, you know somebody that's over there and their boss or whatever, saying all right, hey, let's sit down. What about this? Why'd you do this? Like would that cause them to be a little better? Because they can't just go hide.
Speaker 1:So at that level, they do have meetings, they have reviews. Well, it's clearly not working. Well, I just think there's nothing they can do. The way that all their stuff is set up, even when you have that review and say, hey, you're really bad, but there's nothing I can do, like I can't fine you, I can't fire you, I can't do any of this. So it's like you're bad. Try not to be bad. There needs to be more to it.
Speaker 2:You said you don't like the robot umpires.
Speaker 1:Well, okay. So I went to baseball because baseball is the biggest one that's pushing for a change in officiating, because you know, aaa has been testing it for a bit Before that was AA and really working on the robot umpires. The problem with these major league guys the pitchers are so good With there being basically AI technology and you know they're reading these radars and all these different things. If it was to barely scrape a potential line of that strike zone, the robot on par calls it a strike. But if you were to look at that, live well, because the thing is they use it as like a square. It doesn't have to cross the plate in the front. If it crosses it in the back, it's a strike. It shouldn't be. It's got to cross the plate. It's got to cross within the guidelines, not come way back and circle around and touch something.
Speaker 2:But I think if it crosses anywhere on the plate, even at the back corner, it's still a strike as long as it crosses somewhere on that plate. So to me, if you have like a cube kind of or it's not a cube, I guess it's a diamond basically, but they use it, they make it a cube is the thing.
Speaker 1:So it's like technically it didn't actually cross Because the back of it is a diamond. Yeah, so there's big cutouts, but it's a cube.
Speaker 1:Oh, I see what you're saying the plate for sure, because that's not what's going right now. So the ones that you're seeing and you you've got these guys that are are getting strike calls on ones that you're like there is no shot. That was a strike, yeah, but again, robots can mess up too, because those are designed by humans, so there's still gonna be mistakes I just probably less likely to do it.
Speaker 1:Um, I get what you're saying scapegoat, though instead of instead of just better, we're trying to find a way out. That's the way that feels.
Speaker 2:I'm with you there, because we do that with a lot of things. No 100%.
Speaker 2:But I do think, just like we see in golf and what we're doing at our range with Top Tracer range and all this stuff and everything's on technology. And then you see things like umpires who are not I still get on this. Why umpires who are not um, I still get on this. Why are we having all this technology and we're measuring first downs on football with chains on the sideline? You're, you're ready to make that change? I'm ready to make that change and I know we've been doing it for years. But you know when they determine if, if you got a first down, well let's go get a review let's see if we can tell the ball.
Speaker 2:When half time you can't see it, let's guess where maybe it went. Now let's pull the chains out. Now we're five inches short. Let's just put something in the ball. Let's do something to know where the ball stops.
Speaker 1:So for me that kind of takes up another interesting topic. The things that we pick and choose to interject technology into doesn't always make sense, because something like that could have been one of the first ones, because something like that could have been one of the first ones, like we could have very easily done that a long time ago. You clear up the sideline, you, you need less people. Like it takes a lot of stuff, and again not saying like, oh, let's take jobs.
Speaker 1:I don't mean that, but it's the fact of there's always gonna be jobs or other things it can't be wrong, like, if, like you said, if you have gps tracking in the ball, well, the official every play is kind of guessing where that ball should be at and we pointed out when it's like a big fourth and one or whatever, are they going to get first down.
Speaker 2:But it happens every play and if you watch the officials in games especially if you're at them live and you see an official run down, he's 10 yards behind the ball running up there guessing where the ball stopped putting his foot.
Speaker 1:Well, there was a third down. It the ball running up there guessing where the ball stopped putting his foot? Well, there, there was a third down. It was actually ohio state, texas. Uh, their quarterback takes off. Looked like he was short. The official gave him the first down. They ended up reviewing it. It came back and back it was a yard and a half off. Well, when you're talking inches, that's that's massive.
Speaker 2:But what happens a lot of times, especially on the goal line, is that you know they have the cameras, oh yeah, but there's so many players so if they couldn't see where he was actually down they would have just said oh, it stands is called, and it would have been a yard and a half off right. So no, I don't think there's something needs to be done with.
Speaker 1:I don't think technology is the fix for everything. I think there's some things like I'm still okay with some human error. I think that's what kind of makes some of the game. So I don't want to take it to where it's all robot officials, all everything across the board, because then you're kind of taking the spirit of the game out.
Speaker 2:Well, some penalties in every sport is an opinion somewhat.
Speaker 1:How you view it. I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2:Pass, interference, different things like that. How you view it?
Speaker 1:Well, because some officials allow more physicality interference, different things like that.
Speaker 2:How are you doing it?
Speaker 1:Well, because some officials allow more physicality. Some are as soon as you touch, Like it just depends on that.
Speaker 2:So those things have to be human.
Speaker 1:But that to me is we can. You should just train better, like you shouldn't go one week and I can't touch anybody to the next week. Now I'm, you know, taking your wallet out of your back pocket and it's still nothing. That's a big thing in basketball, for ball that's. You gotta just make it more consistent. But I don't think making everything electronic or everything technology is to fix how some people believe is the case.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't like that. Technology has its place and we need to use it in different walks of life use it alongside, but don't let it take place yeah, there's a lot of things that they're talking about technology right now that I'm I'm okay not doing a little questionable like let's slow down, I'm not ready to get in a car. That's all. The cars drive themselves.
Speaker 1:Two inches from each other. I couldn't trust it.
Speaker 2:I'm not ready for that but I'm ready to to put it on the sideline of a football game. I mean, let's do that yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think there's certain aspects of life that, if it can make something a little bit easier, but not completely take control of it, that's that's a little different.
Speaker 2:So I mentioned golf, and golf is doing a better job. I don't know how good it is yet of bringing technology to the sport yeah, tgl. Tgl is in week two um, I know you said the big man tonight tiger woods made his debut.
Speaker 1:His team got destroyed, okay. So who is his team? He is part of the Jupiter Lynx. They played LA today.
Speaker 2:So does I know Jupiter's a golf town in Florida.
Speaker 1:Basically, oh, jupiter's the biggest golf town in Florida, but I feel like Jupiter versus LA seems like a big difference. It is.
Speaker 2:I thought they would have picked a bigger team, like a bigger city, I guess.
Speaker 1:Well, so, Tiger is one of the founders of it, him and rory mcelroy. Tiger lives in jupiter, so for him it's just his hometown yeah, I mean, you know, michael jordan's grove 23 is in jupiter, like jupiter is where golf is in florida, so you think michael jordan's rooting on tiger woods because he's his neighbor, like probably not um after he watched, him, after he watched him tonight, I I'd say no.
Speaker 2:Pick a better team. So that's the name, but who's on the team? So for.
Speaker 1:Jupiter, it's Tiger Woods, kevin Kisner, tom Kim, Max Homa. Tom Kim wasn't there tonight, so Kisner, who is assistant captain for the Ryder Cup, I think, still a great pick.
Speaker 2:But Kisner doesn't, so can they have a fill-in, they kind of can rotate.
Speaker 1:We haven't really seen the team have four yet, so we've not really gotten to see how that's going to work, because not everybody's there. Depending on travel, depending on tournament arrangements, we're starting this new event and people can't be there, guys, you've got to be there.
Speaker 1:What? And people can't be there? Guys, you've got to be there. What are we doing? So, yeah, Tiger was week two. I think they're going to have great viewing numbers because Tiger played it wasn't better than last week and if you listened to us talk last week, if you know me, you know I've been excited about this.
Speaker 2:You've talked about it a lot. You wanted it for a birthday present.
Speaker 1:I did and I still would go. I think in person it would be a blast. I think in person could really change it, but I don't think that it's translating well on TV right now.
Speaker 2:There's some sports like we've talked about NASCAR in the past. I love seeing the cars in person but it is way better watching it on TV, trying to keep up with everything that makes sense. So I worry that even going to a golf event so you said you think it'd be better in person, you think because the commentary is that bad?
Speaker 1:well, so I think that'll be better in person, because you're going to see every shot. You're in the atmosphere. It's a little different at a golf tournament. You miss so much because you're only following certain people or you're at certain holes. You don't get to see everything happening around you. So if a big shot happens on hole 18, but you're sitting at hole seven watching something you have no idea, so like you're going to miss some things, or this you're not missing when you're watching on TV.
Speaker 2:is the crowd like into it? Are they like the players that are mic'd up? Is the crowd hearing that?
Speaker 1:So I don't know if they're that's also getting relayed, because that'd be really hard to be talking, but then also hearing yourself there, um, so you're getting to hear that on tv. But I was actually thinking about it, you know, on my way here to to record and I was like you know, the biggest thing I think tgl is doing wrong right now is in their broadcast one. I think I want to hear less player talk. I think I should hear some, but I think there's too much dead air. It's just like it's too much silence. But if you look at every big sport and every sport that does it well, it's a minimum two-man team in the booth. Okay, if you think about it, every NFL game you watch two guys.
Speaker 2:So I haven't watched any of it, so I'm assuming they don't have to. Okay, they have one.
Speaker 1:And he barely speaks. And it's not anything against him, it's just kind of the way they have it set up. They're wanting you to hear everything else. I don't want to hear everything else.
Speaker 2:They want you to hear the players.
Speaker 1:When I watch a game, whether it's football, basketball, whatever all that dead space is the commentary and you get good stories and you get like they pull you in with the commentary.
Speaker 2:Also the sports, when you're watching a random sports game sec plus or something else right random commentators.
Speaker 1:It's a completely different experience yeah, when you hear, when you hear two people and you're like they're just not good. Like you know, obviously they're doing a smaller game, so you're not putting your big people on, but then when you watch the big guys that are really good at it, it's like it makes the game better.
Speaker 2:Well, and it may not be that they're never going to be good, they're just not there yet. Correct. They're going to be new, correct. So, to me, coming into a new event like this with Tiger Woods and Roy and you're really putting some effort behind it, I guess, effort behind it, I guess, yeah, I don't know if they are not, there's a lot of money involved, but um seems like you need to figure those things out and have the top-notch guys there.
Speaker 1:Well, so I'll say this they they actually um had serena williams on tonight. She's a fan of la, she lives out there and they did a little interview with her. You know, they kind of picked some different people. It was better when her and the and the main guy were talking. I was like heck put her on there, like not that she needs to be in a golf broadcast because she doesn't know enough about it. But they did well together, like it. It pulled me in a little bit like that segment. I was kind of like okay, I'm kind of with it okay. And then as soon as she got off, it was like we're listening to dead air or like when you get below 15 seconds cause they have a 40 second shot clock when you get below 15 seconds, a heartbeat starts sounding. So I'm just sitting here listening to this thump that I'm like okay maybe in person.
Speaker 2:That makes sense You've had all this quiet time.
Speaker 1:It's like it just doesn't, it doesn't fit Like.
Speaker 2:did you stay with it longer this week than you did last week?
Speaker 1:Um week um.
Speaker 2:I've made myself, okay, not not necessarily that I wanted to did the match last longer this week. I'm not sure they got destroyed.
Speaker 1:But no, they got destroyed, so that's part of it. I mean, we need and I so me and will were texting while we're both watching it and he's saying the same thing. He says I hate this, I hate what. Like I don't like watching it and I and I keep telling myself it's got to get better, right. Like I want to like it so much, like I'm not going to force myself to like if it's a bad product, it's just bad product, but one of the one of the other things that it's golf's got to do a better job of. In the tgl, it's like everything is brought to you by somebody. Nobody's over all of it. It's like, well, the hammer's brought to you by fedex and the green zone's brought to you by full swing, and this, the Green Zone's brought to you by Full.
Speaker 2:Swing. They sponsor everything.
Speaker 1:And it's like stop doing 100 sponsors. If this is Tiger's people and it's Tiger and Rory, let one company be like they sponsor it. They're ahead of it. We've got 100 different people and it's almost just like an ad board.
Speaker 2:It just gets in the way. It sounds too much like money, Like you said they're all trying to sell everything they can.
Speaker 1:Like Max Homa being on Jupiter. Max just signed with Cobra this year. I like Max Homa. Max Homa cracks me up. He's been rating golfer swings on Twitter for the past few years and it's absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 2:So we have a Cobra account for golf golf. Can we get max homer out now?
Speaker 1:I wish he can rate my swing. He'd rip me a new one, it'd be, hilarious.
Speaker 1:I'd love it, but he's been doing that on twitter and it's it's just it's personality that golf needs. It's the type of person that's like I can get behind that because he's fun and like. You see him like with his cobra gear and you're seeing uh sahith the gala with his ping stuff and you're seeing Tiger with with his Sunday red stuff, but we've yet to have a what's in the bag, like as a golfer, like we like to see what those guys are playing Cause we're curious.
Speaker 1:Like we can't play their stuff because we're not good enough. But I'd still like to know, but like we haven't seen any of that, you're not getting like the little things that could be more fun.
Speaker 2:Is that a secret in golf that they don't want everybody to know what's in their bag?
Speaker 1:No, I mean golf, golf, what Now? Every week after a tournament you get a what's in the bag. The winner does a what's in the bag.
Speaker 2:See, that's what I want. Everybody does it, so why can't we do that? I want something fun and energetic and I thought I would go watch it at some point. I was watching a basketball game tonight, so I didn't, but I keep hearing you talk about it. I'm kind of like I don't know if I want to waste my time on it.
Speaker 1:I honestly think with some little improvements it could be a lot better. And the biggest thing for me right now is broadcast related. Like if we could fix just some broadcast stuff, I think it could be better. Because they've got one guy you know in DC, you know kind of the sports center stuff. He does kind of a little halftime thing in between the first segment and the second segment. You've got the one guy in the booth, you've got one guy kind of down with the players like you would on a sideline.
Speaker 2:But no other person does one in the booth. Give me two. Yeah, you've got to have two in the booth so they can bounce off each other. It's just easier. It's easier to conversation. The number one thing that golf needs to realize in any sport really, but definitely team sports, when you're going to go into the team sport world. Yeah, the competition has to be good.
Speaker 1:Well, so if we, if we looked at the first week, there's great viewership. They actually have now reported there was a bunch of nfl owners in attendance. They're already looking at expansion. They're wanting to add some of the live golf guys. They're wanting to bring in some other different people. They're wanting to put four or five more arenas across the country, and that that's my next thing I was wanting to go to. That may help If you are a team based in Texas or a team based in California but you never have a home match. What's the point? Oh, I said that from the beginning. Like, every team needs to have their own arena, because that's what a fan wants to be behind when it's. I can go to my local arena and watch them play well, that was my thought with the jupiter team, would that?
Speaker 1:be, kind of a small town, it's so jupiter's fairly close because it's in palm beach gardens, is where they're holding everything.
Speaker 2:So they're, they're not far so they can kind of be the whole.
Speaker 1:That'd be fine yeah, that could be fine, but they played la tonight. Next week you have atl playing, then you've got a team in Boston and it's like, well, you're never going to go there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have to go there, and I think you need to start selling team gear.
Speaker 1:Well, so they started that. They actually pushed that tonight.
Speaker 2:But the golfers need to wear team gear.
Speaker 1:PGA Superstore is kind of the home of this new team stuff, but every single golfer matched in color with their own personal stuff. Tiger wearing Sunday red, max Homa had on red because their colors were red, so he was wearing red. But he's wearing Puma. Kisner is with Wilson, of all people, and you know he's wearing red. At one point I thought LA had five people because they looked the exact same as the ref.
Speaker 2:He was dressed the exact same and I was like what is going on? So it sounds like right now. You know they're still going to go on, but if they make this work and the teams I think there's potential.
Speaker 1:They just got to make some changes.
Speaker 2:So how does it? I'm curious to see what it looks like when you know your team, your four or five it is. You know your team, jupiter. Okay, now you're going out to this course next weekend and you're playing against each other, yeah, so what does?
Speaker 1:that look like. So it's still very individual and these guys play so much golf together it's not really that big of a deal like they're they're gonna. They know how to compete differently, because even then you can tell watching this they are not in tournament mode. Like they are out on the course on a four-day event.
Speaker 2:Like they're not speaking wouldn't be better if they was uh, no, it would not get worse.
Speaker 1:I I think if they got in tournament mode it'd be more quiet, like right now. They're at least kind of. There's a few little lines that they throw at each other or joking around like that's good, you know, that's the stuff I want to hear. But I don't want to sit there and listen to four straight minutes of them talking about this is the club, here's how it's going to roll out, like like I like that stuff. But as a just fan of golf, people don't want to listen to that. Like they don't care that you're hitting a six iron instead of a seven iron because you need that little bit extra roll. They just want to see you hit a good shot. They don't care well.
Speaker 2:I said it's got to be good. Teams competition's got to be good. I said we need a competitive be good, Like I said we need a competitive match.
Speaker 1:We've not had one yet. It's only been two weeks and it's been a blowout both weeks. As soon as we can get a competitive one, maybe it'll make it a little bit better. But I think one thing golf also has to realize there are not big personalities in golf, like there's not a ton of big personalities, but they're creating the stage.
Speaker 2:so who's going to step up? That I don't know, Because if you're somebody who's not well-known or whatever, here's your opportunity to get on live. Tv and put your personality out there.
Speaker 1:They have all the big-name guys right now, other than the guys that are at Live. All the big PGA guys are involved.
Speaker 2:None of those guys are big personality guys.
Speaker 1:Well, they need to go find somebody that's maybe not a big name but has some personality and throw on the end of these teams. Well, so to me I'm almost like give them a coach, a celebrity coach or somebody that should be interesting.
Speaker 1:Like you, you put like a shane gillis because just because we talked about him earlier, a comedian as the coach, you've already made it better. Yep, just because the stuff that he's going to come out and say they probably can't use him because he may not be necessarily Disney friendly, you know being an OBS team.
Speaker 2:That's true, but at that point, what's the coach? They're not really coaching anything, they're just the cheerleader.
Speaker 1:No, but I mean you could still have it as, like you know, technically, that coach is given the lineup Because, like, they go into individuals, because the first one is three-man alternate shot, you play what is it? Eight, nine holes and then you switch over to individuals. So kind of, let them do the lineup, Let them do a coin flip, see who goes for like little things to make it feel like it's an actual coach. But that could throw some personality in there, because right now it doesn't have much personality other than hey, it's cool, there's a lot of lights, it's technology. What else do we have? Yeah, like I need something else.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's got to be fun that's what I was hoping for this is going to be fun. It's it's I. I keep saying it's got potential. It really does. They just got to figure it out.
Speaker 2:Well, we'll see where it goes, because I mean, really, you know, college football's winding down, uh, nfl's winding down, um, you know what are we going to watch soon? We've got college basketball obviously going on, but I'm probably going to watch it. We got through the holidays finally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 2:A lot of stuff going on in the holidays so that's tough it is, and we've had some I think you mentioned earlier a little bit of snow now. So it kind of feels weird. We're not that far past the holidays but everything's kind of slowed down and now we have snow and and it's really weird to me um kind of getting back in the groove of everything after holidays. I think it was weird because holidays were in the middle of the week this year.
Speaker 1:That's a little bit tough and I'm still trying kind of on both ends, but then try not to at the same time.
Speaker 2:You kind of had two weeks full of holidays, instead of like one week, yeah, which you normally have, and and so I agree with that, trying to just kind of hard.
Speaker 1:You feel like you're fighting your way back out of it. Yeah, it almost gets you a little bit of a funk, because it's then it's colder and you just you feel slower and you don't want to do as much. I'm already counting down to spring like we need need spring weather here I mean um, the little like the, those few days that you get, and it's like peaks in the 50s, it's like it's.
Speaker 2:I just I just need that that summer not summer, but the, the sun and the warmth, and I actually need all that back every year, for whatever reason it feels like sickness goes to the family right around the holidays of course, and I don't know if it's going everywhere doing things, school, you know cold weather, um, so, like even this year, you know we always go to like the christmas lights yeah, I mean you the drive-through things and all that. Um, this year we didn't go during the holidays and we kind of waited till after all the holidays, okay, and we went over and so it was. It was kind of weird, to be honest with you, because there's like nobody there.
Speaker 2:Christmas lights after christmas it was because there was no christmas spirit. Um, and you, normally you got all these cars and you're waiting in line and all this and we, we get there and there's like nobody there.
Speaker 1:You're just driving through by yourself. It was kind of that way. Did you even have to pay? Was it even open, or did you just drive through? We went?
Speaker 2:I think there's like two days left, so they go a little longer after the holidays, and I'm not sure why.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that feels weird to me, like I almost say New Year's Eve I think I saw one other car, maybe something like that. So one other weirdo decided to go with you. So this.
Speaker 2:It costs, I want to say, $45 to go through this thing. Wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's per car $45 to go, look at lights $45,. Yep.
Speaker 2:And so the kids have been wanting to go and we didn't go to holidays Pay me $15, I'll shine a flashlight in your eyes out in the yard. That's ridiculous, so on the way there, one of my kids fell asleep. Okay, the middle one fell asleep, so we get there. He's upset, he's tired, sure.
Speaker 1:Lights are bright now because he's been sleeping, he's seen all these.
Speaker 2:Christmas lights he's upset, so he's really playing on his iPad. More he's looking at Christmas lights. We've got my oldest with her phone out filming everything, so that she can show her friends.
Speaker 1:So she's not even, she's not really in the moment she's.
Speaker 2:I've got the little one upset because he's cold, because the windows are down so we can see the lights better, right? So at one point I was about to do 50 mile an hour through there to get out, because it was just like at that are we here for.
Speaker 1:So at that point I'll pay another $45, just get out of.
Speaker 2:Here it was and I didn't. We tried to enjoy it. You know nobody's there, you can kind of take your time. Stop look whatever you want, but I felt like we just threw it in 10 minutes, right.
Speaker 1:And I come out of this thing.
Speaker 2:But when you're there by yourself, you're just rolling through when I came out of there $45 for my kids to just not even care about it To complain and be upset. And we had told the kids you know, hey, this is what we're going to go do, and so afterwards we get on the interstate and we're coming back Interstate. I call it interstate.
Speaker 2:It's not really inter, I guess, but it's a main four-lane highway yeah, and we get on the road and we're going to the road and my little one he's like, are we going to see the lights? Yeah, I already did. I'm like we've been there. We spent 45, drove literally like an hour away to go to these lights. My kids didn't care. My little one doesn't even know we already went. So next year I don't know if I'm going, you know, to be honest with you, or maybe I need to do it during Christmas.
Speaker 1:Maybe earlier would help. I'm not sure. Do you guys go to those often? We have in the past? We didn't this year. We normally do. But see, I mean my little one. He's three, so in the past he wasn't really paying attention. Anyways, he would have probably enjoyed it. But again, that age, their attention span is not crazy. So so no, I really don't know if that would have been worth it this year. But after you tell me how much it cost, we'll sit outside and look from the road. That that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2:So we went several years ago and you know it's all about giving the kids more.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And the two youngest were even younger then. And we get there and there's this huge line and they really want to go.
Speaker 1:And we're like, oh, man, we can't.
Speaker 2:They're little, they're not going to sit here, they're in their car seats or whatever. Yeah, so, yeah, so we got over in the fast lane side. It was like double that that we paid. I think we paid like 70 to go through this thing, just so because the kids were not going to sit there for no two hours or whatever was going to be in this line, and and so we got through a whole lot faster.
Speaker 1:I absolutely love my kids. I'm not paying 70.
Speaker 2:Look at christmas it was, it was crazy we'll, we'll go drive around neighborhoods.
Speaker 1:I was thinking that too. That's unbelievable.
Speaker 2:Now you know we put up some Christmas lights on our house this year but I didn't feel like looking back at now we're past the holiday, looking back I don't feel like I saw that many Christmas lights and stuff like usual.
Speaker 1:I didn't really go looking this year, though, like I feel like we typically have. I mean, there's a good bit of lights, there's a bunch, but yeah, so that's the thing. If you're listening and you know you've stuck with us and you went and looked at these lights, how much are you comfortable paying? Because I'm not comfortable paying $45.
Speaker 2:That's outrageous. In the past I haven't thought much about it because I thought I got my money's worth. After this year there's no shot.
Speaker 1:I don't want to go back Like, if you tell me $20 a car, all right, I'll do that. Like you know, for my family that's basically five bucks a person. Like I get it, but you're telling me it's going to be over $10 a person. Yeah, to drive through and look at lights.
Speaker 2:I mean, I had five people in my car so it was nuts, you know. Pretty close to that and I feel like if it's going to be after Christmas, like that, like discounted or something, like nobody's there anyways.
Speaker 1:Like help me out a little bit. I just I can't, I can't imagine paying that for like don't get me wrong, I'm all for experiences, I'm all for, you know, do fun stuff, but that just seems outrageous. You know and I know the price of things are crazy nowadays. Everything has gone up in every way.
Speaker 2:I don't want to deter anybody from going if you've never been, because it's unique.
Speaker 1:I would just tell you to save your $45.
Speaker 2:But you turn the radio on and the lights are going to the music and they're playing Christmas songs and stuff. And I've been to some bigger ones in bigger cities. There's one over in Charlotte that you drive. It feels like forever. You've got some stuff in the middle of it that you can stop and see Santa when Santa's there, and they've got a movie playing and all that. All that's cool and so it's definitely an experience. But I came out of that again with just I'm trying to take my kids, we didn't get to go during the holidays Okay, let's go, they're going to enjoy this and quickly realized yeah, maybe next year we'll do something different.
Speaker 1:That's just that's too much for me. I can't. I can't imagine paying that. And don't worry, we've. I'm sure I've paid more for something dumber, but it just feels very, very greedy to charge $45 a car for that Like I. Just I have a hard time with that.
Speaker 1:So so again if, if you, any of you listeners you go, do that kind of stuff, feel free. You know we're, we're on Instagram, facebook, you know all all the stuff. Leave us a comment. What are you comfortable paying for something like that? Because I'm definitely not good with 45, that that's. That's a bit much. Maybe 30 I could roll with, but once we get above that, I feel like we're just.
Speaker 1:We're just a money grab I'm with you, it's, and then it makes me feel like I need to open up my own because, like, if you're getting 45 a car, like you're gonna make a killing, you know, but something you're like your your yard rip off some lights and just drive through here. Listen, I don't have space on the other side of my house to make a road. I'll figure it out, figure it out I'll take some bushes out.
Speaker 2:Just drive through the range in the winter we'll close down the range you do a drive through christmas lights.
Speaker 1:45 a car is is nuts. Yeah, yeah, I have a really hard time with that. I don't, I don't think I could do that well, I just thought it was interesting.
Speaker 2:You know, like I said, trying to get past the holidays and you, you kind of get through all that stuff, and then here I still spent 45 for lights.
Speaker 1:But I'm with you there so well, I don't like it, but but kind of where I want to go from that we mentioned we have a new segment, we, we're gonna, we're gonna open into our new segment. So we do, I, I done forgot about this I knew you did.
Speaker 1:I knew you did because as soon it I saw, I saw the face, I was like, oh yeah, so we're going to start something this week. It's called love it or hate it, typically, as you've seen, david hates a lot of things, so this week I'm going to let him lead off with his, you know.
Speaker 2:I want. But that just goes right along with what you're saying. I was going to say yeah.
Speaker 1:And you can't use that. You hate that statement as your hate it. So, basically, we're going to have something that we love from the week, something we hate from the week.
Speaker 2:David this week very easily, is picking what he hated for the week. Listen, I'm more excited to hear what you like, because maybe it's something good, maybe it's something interesting, I don't know.
Speaker 1:You'll hate it.
Speaker 2:Either way, you'll find a reason not to like it Can we have you go first, so that maybe that can be my hate. Whatever you like, I'll just hate.
Speaker 1:No, because you would try to use that. So I'm going to make you go. First You'll just be like I hate that you said that, and then we're done with it.
Speaker 2:We're done with it, but here's what's going to happen, though there's going to be a lot of things that I hate that people agree with. Okay, because I'm not as crazy as I sound. I know I sound crazy.
Speaker 1:You're crazier than you sound. I am crazy, okay. But here's the thing there may be people that agree to an extent, but there's so many things I've heard over the years that you hate or that will go to a restaurant and I'm like, why did he even order tea? Because he, you know he's gonna hate it and he's gonna have to ask for dr pepper and then they're not gonna have it. They're gonna say we have mr pibb and he's gonna hate that. So he's gonna end up with a coke or the coke to begin with no, no, you gotta try it is crazy.
Speaker 1:It's like every time, like I can like. Oh, now we had a horrible experience, that's the most recent.
Speaker 2:You're long, I mean this could be my. Hate it right now.
Speaker 1:Me speaking. It's not You're hating me speaking.
Speaker 2:No, the people at restaurants don't know how to make sweet tea.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but sweet tea's not big across the country it's a southern thing it should be, and I'm in the south okay, we are in the south.
Speaker 2:I got to say about that. Okay, here's what we did. Hated of the week Go ahead. Here's what I did. Went to Walmart the other day. Okay, I'm driving to the parking lot and I have literally a specific way I go into Walmart. Every time I go into Walmart.
Speaker 1:And I feel like I'm there. So you're telling me you're already the problem, gotcha.
Speaker 2:No, I feel like I'm there at walmart. But so I get the specific way, I go in and and I go around there and I get up to the front. I'm coming around trying to find a parking spot and right in the front of the door there's a pickup truck sitting there with the turn signal on. Okay, and they're just sitting there. And now you've got a car or two behind them and I'm trying to come around the side of them and turn and I can't turn because they're all there and I'm like what are they doing? And then I realize there's some car sitting at a parking spot like one of the first two spots that may be close to getting in their car and backing out.
Speaker 1:Okay, so this person and I've seen this before. Here's the thing. It's not like we're in the holidays still, where it's super packed, and you're just trying to find anything Like. We're past all that and this is not a busy Walmart.
Speaker 2:It is not, but I've seen it plenty of times. You're going through the parking lot and you're backed up and you don't even know why. And you're backed up and you don't even know why, right, and there's a car, five cars up, who saw the lady putting her groceries in her car and she's still 10 minutes from getting back in and out.
Speaker 1:But they want that spot, but they want that spot and they're holding everybody up.
Speaker 2:So that is my hated of this week People that hold up the whole line waiting for a spot. Go four spots down and walk a little bit, It'll be okay. You'll still get there faster than waiting on that.
Speaker 1:Now, that's not wrong, is it? I get it. I mean, here's the thing, my view on it. When I go to Walmart, somebody's in the way, somebody's going to be there. I just ignore it.
Speaker 2:I'm just there, I just hang around. I can see the way you're talking right now. You're one of those people, aren't you?
Speaker 1:That waits on a parking spot, that waits talking right now. You're one of those people, aren't you? That waits on a parking spot? Waits on a parking spot? No, because I'm I'm one, I'll go park the end of the, at the end of the parking lot like for hours.
Speaker 2:I'll park way down there near the road. I don't care, I don't want to park and come and walk up like I'll park next people.
Speaker 1:I won't. It doesn't really matter to me, but I'm not waiting on a parking spot just because it might be three spots closer than the next one, like that.
Speaker 2:That's that a little, you know excessive listen, I don't even care if it's 10 spots closer. They're not in their car. If that spot is not open, go on by.
Speaker 1:But now I'll tell you this if I see you behind me and I see that you're already irritated I'm waiting on that spot.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna wait and I'm gonna wait and I'm gonna wait.
Speaker 1:I may even get out and help them pack their car and then talk to them for a minute and make you wait even longer.
Speaker 2:When you step out, I'll take your door off, going around you, because I am not waiting. That's one.
Speaker 1:You're not really sure, yet I am not waiting At that point. Yeah, I mean, I would have either backed up or went around a different way.
Speaker 2:Now I want to say one caveat to this.
Speaker 1:Okay, if you have a medical reason, I understand that you're waiting for a handicapped spot. If there's nothing remotely close, well, so so the thing I have to say about that our walmart is not a busy one. It is not. We don't have a super center, we don't like. This is just a small, normal walmart, so in a town of not that many people, so there's plenty of spots, it's just.
Speaker 2:You know, some people feel like they need to be three spots from the door instead of and it's spots from the door, and it's worth waiting 10 minutes to save that 20 second walk.
Speaker 1:That's what they do so well for them to then go in walmart, just walk around right, they gotta save their energy.
Speaker 2:No, I it. It really happened to me and it come back to me and it really bothered me that people do this.
Speaker 1:But um, so I really, I really wish this is one of the first times I've wished that we are recording the podcast because, like david telling the story, you can see how much it's bothering him, like you can see like he's reliving it now and he's not happy about it.
Speaker 2:I'm one that I show my emotions most of the time, true? Um, if I, as we know, if I hate it, I'll tell you I hate it. If I like it, I like it. Like you can see, I'm not hiding nothing, so let's don't put that on a video, maybe.
Speaker 1:No, it's going to Eventually, that's coming 100%.
Speaker 2:We all know this is. They can hear my voice.
Speaker 1:They don't need to see it.
Speaker 2:No, they need to see it too.
Speaker 1:See the enjoyment that I get out of watching him get angry over reliving it.
Speaker 2:So now, as part of Love it, hate it, we're going to have love holding people up in the parking lot.
Speaker 1:No, that's not what I'm going to say. Actually, my love, it is kind of a simple one. But you kind of made the statement we're starting to wind down from NFLs and playoffs, college football but the one thing about right now, as a sports fan, what I love, there is a game or multiple games every single night. I mean, currently we've got NBA is happening, college basketball is happening, we still have college football that we're we're discussing and we, you know, have another game coming up. Nfl playoffs had a game last night. They had plenty of games over the weekend.
Speaker 1:Hockey's currently going. You've got TGL, the start of the PGA Tour season. So as a sports fan, there is so much happening. So you can't say, if you like sports and not everybody likes all those sports Like, for me, I'm not really a hockey fan, but there is something on, but it's a sport there is something on. So as a sports fan, I love kind of this time of year where you've got so much bleed over, which you don't really have in the other seasons as much, because summer into fall you don't really have it. Spring into summer everything's really dying down. But right here in winter it's like we've got all the big push of football. Ending Basketball is right. The conference grind really good ball games. Good ball games you know in. You know NBA is feels like a really long season. You know they go quite a while but you still have. You have games of something. So I love the fact that I can turn my TV on ESPN and there's something I can watch.
Speaker 2:You know, I don't know that I'm going to say this very often, but I can get behind that. Love it.
Speaker 1:You heard it here first, folks.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And I'll tell you this I've known David quite a while, and that may be the first or second time he's agreed with a statement that I've said, so I'm going to cherish that, brian. I need you to clip this moment and we need to keep this one because, it's for sure, like I'm going to remember, it.
Speaker 2:We found something I actually enjoy. You had to say it first, but that's true.
Speaker 1:I would say, yeah, I had to put it in his mind that that was that was happening. You know, he was just more thinking well, I hate that there's not more well, so yeah, that's not a bad idea either.
Speaker 2:You know what you said, that I just. I just keep putting more and more into it they could always, always be more Making it more difficult. I mean, you're right about sports coming up, but I don't want college football to end. So no, of course I don't want it to end.
Speaker 1:But I mean at the same time I love March Madness so much I love the tournament. It's such a hectic, chaotic time. All the good ball games Like. I'm so excited about that. Now, what I hate about that is that means now it's over, so I don't like that. But at the same time we've had PGA Tour came back, they've had two Hawaii tournaments, getting ready to have some really big California tournaments. We're into some really good events.
Speaker 2:I haven't even turned golf on yet.
Speaker 1:I don't feel like I should be golfing yet Well, so the first two events were in Hawaii. They open in Hawaii every year. They kind of have their west coast push and then they'll end up making their way into Florida, then back across a little bit. But you've got American Express coming up, you've got Pebble Beach Pro-Am, you've got some really good tournaments all here in the next few weeks. So I'm really excited about that, hoping to get to see a Scotty Scheffler come back and you know his hand surgery, all the stuff he's had issues with, and you know want to see some good golf. But at the same time, like I said, in between so many good basketball games Like the SEC conference games are already crazy Cheering for every team. But Duke and ACC to you know to win. So it's a really good time of year we do have a lot of for it to be such a crappy time to be outside. It's a great time as a sports fan. There's so many things to watch.
Speaker 2:You mentioned about Duke. I don't think they're going to lose. Who's in ACC going to beat them? I don't know, maybe they they're there, unfortunately, I don't know. I don't know, maybe they're there, unfortunately, I don't know. But maybe we can set it up that this is a big super team that loses the first round again.
Speaker 1:I would love it.
Speaker 2:That'd be nice, because they've done it plenty of times. I'm sure there's some Duke fans that listen to this.
Speaker 1:Will's a Duke fan. You keep forgetting that you can't three-button your way out of that Will. Okay, You're a Duke fan.
Speaker 2:I was just thinking when I get on PS5 tonight I might have to be on different teams Because he was talking about today.
Speaker 1:He's talking about how much he loves it, and you know, of course, Will's a big basketball fan, but he is a Duke fan, so that's where me and him have a struggle in our friendship because of this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't know that that's tough. I'm going to have to try to get over that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean mean well. So funnily enough I had a friend of mine I text a few weeks ago when we were talking about um South Carolina Illinois bowl game and I picked. I picked Illinois and I get a text the next day. I hate you USC for life like just you know game. All about the Game cocks.
Speaker 1:And then they got whooped and I was like that made it even better, but I it just to get that comment of like I love the fact that you picked up on it immediately and knew who I was talking about and just rolled with it you know that that's the one I was trying to be quiet on, because never know if I might need some help so did you happen to say if uh, you know he helped'd help me?
Speaker 1:out if I needed it. David didn't make the comment. I did and you know I did. Yeah, I would make it again.
Speaker 2:Oh no, that's funny. What is friends for if you can't make fun of them right?
Speaker 1:A hundred percent. A hundred percent Now it's the old saying of who needs enemies when you've got friends like these, Because I get more ridiculous comments from my friends than I ever did from people that didn't like me yeah 100%.
Speaker 2:If we're not giving you a hard time, we don't like you. So.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just sit there and think, if you're that person that we don't give a hard time, we may not like you very much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I may not like you very much, I like you.
Speaker 1:David hates you. That's just part of it.
Speaker 2:You know one thing I forgot to mention that I am going to love about college football. Winding down Watching the Texas game the other day, I've seen more of their coach than I care to ever see in my life.
Speaker 1:Sarkeesian.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they kept calling him. You know, obviously, Sark, that's his nickname. The camera was on him so much. I know so much about him what they talked about and I can tell you all his facial features. I could pick him out of the lineup for sure. Now, I mean, it was like I swear it was every well so I had a.
Speaker 1:I had a topic that I wanted to go back real quick. In college football we are seeing a bunch of people enter the transfer portal now. Bunch of teams, their seasons are ended, they're jumping in. There's the big one. Well, so here's the thing, and I'm really trying to figure this out because theoretically, the way the rules are wrote, you can't reach out and talk to a kid until he's entered the portal. Okay so Georgia's quarterback was hurt, carson Beck. He had surgery like he's going to be good. He's supposed to be back. Before even workouts are over, he makes the statement which we all kind of saw coming. He's entering the portal. Less than 24 hours later he's got a $4 million deal at Miami.
Speaker 2:Yep, when do you think this happened?
Speaker 1:There's no telling, obviously before he got the portal. There's no way it happens to everybody. There's no way you're telling me they figured that out in 24 hours.
Speaker 2:No, it didn't, but do you think he was talking while he's still playing at Georgia, or after he got hurt, or after they lost the game and they're?
Speaker 1:coming out. No, I, 1 million percent think he had been talking to him for a while. Well, because there was reports about that, like you can't, you can't tell me that you're gonna offer potentially offer a kid four million and you've not been talking for a bit. Because if you then offer that and he's like, why the heck would I do that? Then you look dumb. But but it was so quick, wouldn't you?
Speaker 2:I guess this is a kind of a loose number interview a kid before you offer him four million dollars well, it's recruiting.
Speaker 1:I mean you're still recruiting somebody like the recruiting. I mean you're still recruiting somebody Like the transfer portal as much. You're still recruiting current players.
Speaker 2:Well, but I feel like used to you was recruiting, trying to get the player to come to you obviously.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:You wanted to entice them to come to you, but now, when you're offering $4 million, you also need to make sure this person is.
Speaker 1:Well, so for Miami they did that with Cam Ward. They paid for him to come from Washington State, had a really good year, broke some records Going to the NFL. They knew they only had him for one year. Now they're going to get Carson Beck kind of the same way. Don't think Carson Beck is a Cam Ward. Don't get me wrong. I think Ward was way better than quarterback. But it's just really odd to me to see, literally less than 24 hours and me and Brian were actually messaging back and forth I sent him the post. I was like, hey, finally happened. We were talking about it Beck entered and the next day, like I said, less than 24 hours, I'm sending Brian, just committed to Miami.
Speaker 2:It happened really quick.
Speaker 1:I saw it happen. And then the other big name, because we've been talking about it, the potential $6 million man, Quinn Ewers, declaring for the draft. Did he really? He already said I don't.
Speaker 1:I didn't see that Well, so he's not 100% done it, but he said I don't see myself playing college football next year. So for him, he is claiming that he's paid no attention, that he knows nothing about any of that, which is very possible, because you can talk about these kids and they never know it, but he is saying nope, he said I think it's time.
Speaker 2:I was wondering if he'd end up back at Ohio State or anything like that, because he was there at one time and then they just beat him. It'd be kind of weird to go back, I guess, after the sequence of events. So to me he doesn't fit.
Speaker 1:Consequence of events. So to me he doesn't fit. Like we're still seeing at Ohio State, you need the guy that can be mobile. Doesn't have to be, but kind of can. Ewers has potential but he's just not that kind of guy. Howard is actually extremely quick, he's a fast quarterback. Once he gets out there he can move. Yeah, we've seen that You've had had like the cj stroud didn't really like to run but could like when you needed it they can do it. And ewers is still more.
Speaker 2:That pocket guy is mobile in the pocket, but not not quite as much, so I don't think it would have fit. So is he kind of being pushed out with uh manning right behind him, like they're saying, hey, you're gonna go.
Speaker 1:So so I've I've believed for a while. Either ewers transfers or he goes the the draft. It's not his team. Next year Arch Manning is taking over. Like, whether they want it or not, like it has to happen.
Speaker 2:Because he's not going to sit again, Because he's the pocket-style passer you're talking about. He might fit the NFL better than he actually does college.
Speaker 1:So maybe that's a good move. Maybe I just don't know that he's got the skill for it. Like in a year that, like right now you're pushing Shadur Sanders, you're pushing some of these guys. He's kind of like a fifth or sixth option.
Speaker 2:I don't think he goes in as a starter. By no means. I think it's some time.
Speaker 1:No, here's the thing, Somebody will draft him. I mean there's seven rounds, six rounds, whatever it is. I can't remember anymore.
Speaker 2:I don't really watch the draft after day one.
Speaker 1:So you just don't really. It's not as impressive.
Speaker 2:Well, even in the NFL draft, but somebody will draft him.
Speaker 1:There are so many players going to the NFL draft that I've never heard of it's random people from a little small school somewhere, yeah, but these guys are recruiting, they're doing their scouting, they're doing all that stuff.
Speaker 2:You mentioned Sanders. Are you seeing Deion talking to Jerry Jones a little bit?
Speaker 1:Jones a little bit. The Cowboys job is open and Deion right now is kind of the leading front runner. Is that going?
Speaker 2:to make you like him more.
Speaker 1:So I've said it before, I'm not a huge NFL guy, but I was born in Dallas, so my family is Cowboy fans. Grew up Cowboy fan, I grew up being a Troy Aitman fan. Troy Aitman, emmitt Smith, michael Irvin it's that time of when they were good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, it was America's team Like that's what it was Like, you know, the Super Bowl in 95. Well, god, that feels so long ago now. It was a long time ago, but it was. Yeah, I feel old, I feel very old, but I am a Cowboys fan and I know that people get a lot of flack for that, because the Cowboys are really great at choking. They've struggled Every year. It's like oh, they're coming back.
Speaker 1:I don't like the Dak Prescott contract. I think we're wasting money. I don't think he's the quarterback of the future. I think we have a lot of problems on the team and we're not fixing them. I don't think Jerry's the best thing for us, but Jerry Jones is the owner, so we're stuck. It is what it is.
Speaker 2:You know, I've said when we've talked about Deion before, he's a very controversial person. You either love him or you hate him. True, and I've said before when he was a player, primetime loved it. When he's a coach, he's a bit much for me, colorado coach. I'm starting to think, though, if he goes back to the Cowboys as a coach, I'll be okay with primetime back, even as a coach, like the antics, because you're now a professional.
Speaker 1:What I think is funny because I had that same conversation with my brother, Brad, and he's big on the Dion train, loves some Dion, which makes sense. Brad likes those kind of personalities.
Speaker 2:Brad is that kind of personality? Right, I could see him being that way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think so to an extent. Obviously, he doesn't have the ego that some of those guys have.
Speaker 2:I was actually thinking about my Brad's a little more humble, not to that point, but yes.
Speaker 1:I don't know that Brad would call himself humble, but yes, I see what you're saying, but he's a big Deion fan. But Brad has also been a Miami Dolphins fan for his whole life. Love Marino just always has been Zach Thomas Taylor, some of those guys. I wonder if I can pull him over to some Cowboys, because of. Deion, because he's so polarizing. I know Brad's going to like that, so I wonder if he would.
Speaker 2:Are you going to be okay with his antics, being a Cowboys fan if he's constantly?
Speaker 1:for lack of a better word running his mouth. When it comes to the pro side of it, win us some ball games, I'll be okay with it. It feels different in college, and I know that's so weird to say.
Speaker 2:It just feels different in college but now we're starting to pay college players and stuff, so maybe we was wrong. Maybe we should be okay with in college too hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
Speaker 1:You know I've got my hand raised. I'm gonna see this brian again, I need you to to clip that, because David might have just said that he was wrong.
Speaker 2:I said maybe Listen it's close enough.
Speaker 1:It's the closest I've ever seen it, so we got to take that run with it. This is a first for me. Guys Like I'm in shock at this point.
Speaker 2:Maybe we're going to get there, but I still don't like a college coach that is that arrogant, especially when you haven't done anything. But now when you go to the NFL.
Speaker 1:It feels different. I don't know if he's the best hire Because he's not really proven. Nfl is a different ball game. These are adults Now. I think there's potential that those guys will resonate with him. The problem is they're going to draft his son To be a backup. You can't pay Dak Prescott what they're paying him and him not, I know.
Speaker 1:I think projected right now he's New England or Las Vegas, somewhere in that range. Currently they're saying the Cowboys may draft Jeanty from Boise State From Boise State. I don't think that's a bad pick. The issue is running backs are a dime a dozen. We've seen good running backs can really help Saquon going to Philadelphia that's been huge for them. That helped him a ton. Henry at the Ravens that's been huge for them. So I think a good running back does help. But there's so many defensive issues that I can't think about a running back right now. There's just too many issues.
Speaker 2:The NFL, to me, is becoming like the NBA a little bit, with it's an offensive game.
Speaker 1:It is Nobody worries on defense anymore. Scoring points is more fun. It's exciting.
Speaker 2:I agree, I'm looking. So we had what wild card games this past weekend?
Speaker 1:well, so we we had the one wild card game last night um los angeles. Rams and the vikings moved out of la because of the fires. They actually had their game in arizona that's right.
Speaker 2:I saw that that was. Uh, I think they sent planes over to get the team and everything, so that was pretty cool to see.
Speaker 1:So at one point I had so my pick what I want, not what I necessarily think is going to happen, but what I want. I want Detroit to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:You know, I kind of thought that same thing today looking at the games In my lifetime lifetime.
Speaker 1:I remember them being 0 and 16. I would love to be able to say I saw them 0 and 16 and also saw them win a super bowl. I just feel like that'd be a really cool thing that'd be a big turnaround now. I don't think it's gonna happen because the kansas city chiefs are the nfl's team patrick mahomes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but here's, here's another polar figure.
Speaker 1:I'm not a Mahomes fan, I'm not either. But what I'll say? I want to see Detroit and Baltimore or Detroit and Buffalo Like. That to me is the game I want to see, because I think those are really good teams. I think they're exciting teams, detroit's first got to beat the Redskins.
Speaker 2:I mean the Commanders, commanders, sorry.
Speaker 1:Yep, they're always going to be that to me, I don't care. It's hard not to, because that's what we grew up with. Chiefs, big Texans, you know, listen, texans are no joke. That could be a tough game, but the refs will call something in their favor.
Speaker 2:I feel like this year and you can correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm not a big NFL person and I'm sure you will correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know it. You know, if you're wrong, I'll correct it. Yeah, you like doing that. If I can find a way, I'll do it, Even if I'm right.
Speaker 2:if you can find some kind of angle to feel like it, you will.
Speaker 1:I know. Okay, so that was 100% facts. Continue See.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but we don't have any. I guess horrible teams hanging around still no.
Speaker 1:so I think all of our division winners were solid teams, yeah because sometimes you get these divisions that the division itself isn't good and you get a team that's barely breaking even, that's coming out and winning the division In recent memory. I think of the NFC, south Buccaneers, falcons, panthers who else is there?
Speaker 2:I'm not going to be any help on that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm trying to remember. I'm drawing a blank. Somebody's going to be mad at me for drawing a blank there, but that division has been pretty rough, just not winning any ball games. Still, somebody makes a playoff because they're the division winner and it's like under 500 or at 500.
Speaker 2:I'm like I hate seeing that no, and you get a really good second, third place team in another division. Who gets left out?
Speaker 1:so now that they expanded the wild card, you have additional teams in. Now that they're up to 14, the one on each side gets a buy. It's helped a little bit, um, but it's still like, like kind of what he said with college I want to see the best teams. I don't care if you win your division, you still have to have the best records.
Speaker 2:I want the best records there and this is the time of year that I I will follow nfl a little bit more maybe turn on a game here and there. Playoffs's playoffs.
Speaker 1:It's more exciting.
Speaker 2:Better football.
Speaker 1:It means more to these guys Because they want to win A Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:That means a lot. I never watched hockey In last year, for whatever reason.
Speaker 1:You got into the Stanley Cup, we got into the.
Speaker 2:Stanley Cup. I was like, oh, this is exciting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we were at the range and you made me watch A Dallas Stars game and I debated on.
Speaker 2:Just you should have been rooting for him, lay out in the field. You just said he was born in Dallas. It's a hockey game.
Speaker 1:That's your hockey team.
Speaker 2:I'm so bored I'm going to buy you a Dallas Stars hockey jersey.
Speaker 1:For it to sit in the back of my closet. Good job, you can root for him too.
Speaker 2:No, but the NFL. Obviously I like football more than hockey. It's just nothing against hockey, it's just what I like. You know now getting into the playoffs, like you said, it's more exciting in this do or die type thing. It's a different thing.
Speaker 1:Well, but I'm the same way with the NBA. I don't really have any desire to watch any NBA regular season. It is so boring. They don't play any defense. It's like 150 to 150. It's not fun. But then you get in the playoffs and it's like okay, winning a championship means a lot, whether it's somebody is going to get a new contract or playing their way on to a bigger contract somewhere, or whatever it may be. They get more locked in for it. So then I can kind of get behind it, cause it's like all right, now we're going to see good basketball.
Speaker 2:I just feel like and I felt this way some of the Stanley cup when I got into a little bit seven games can be too many. I think we should cut that down a little bit. That's a lot Because you're just you feel like you're watching the same game. In some instances, seven games in a row, the same two teams, the same players.
Speaker 1:I like the seven game because I think about it in the NBA playoffs when you go to a game seven. There is nothing like that feel.
Speaker 2:Wouldn't it be the same if there's game five?
Speaker 1:no, because it's it's two additional games to get us there. We've seen them grind for those two additional. That it's like we have to have longevity, we've got to be able to stick to a game, we've got to work a game plan. It's you have more film, you have more growth, like. To me. It's like if you can get through a seven game series, you've really done something. So that's like some of these lower-level stuff and it's like, well, our championship's. A three-game series, that's not enough.
Speaker 2:Like three games. You can't decide it. I feel like five would be pretty good for me Well so like, the first round is five.
Speaker 1:Like the NBA playoffs, the first round's five. No, I feel like there's times that's not enough. Like the Warriors, a few years ago Were up 3-1 and lost First team to ever come back from a 3-1.
Speaker 2:They lost 4-3.
Speaker 1:But it's like there's still that potential For a team to just like. Alright, now we've made our push, but if it was 5 games, it's over.
Speaker 2:So it's like there's things that just happen. If it's 5, then you can't get down three to one.
Speaker 1:You're right, you're lost. So it's just I, I like, I do like the seven, I like the fact that it's. It is a grind, and then obviously for the league, they make so much more money. If they could make it an 11, they would yeah like it's just, it's a money thing.
Speaker 2:It just gets a little boring to me. I I don't mind, like for's very repetitive, so like for basketball.
Speaker 1:I definitely don't mind because I love basketball, like it's just, I love watching good teams play let's get college doing that, then At least three. The tournament's different, it's a different feel.
Speaker 2:No, I do feel like Because, like, once you get into a bracket it's different Because of seven games and NBA, nhl, whatever, they probably get the correct champion more than college basketball does More often than not Because it's a one game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's what I think makes college so exciting and so polarizing is you give, say, you take, the 64 team tournament and everything is a best of three. You're not going to get it wrong that often.
Speaker 2:That'd be too much. I think, though, You'd have to have less teams if you're going to do best of three. Correct you definitely would.
Speaker 1:But I'm just thinking like we made the comment Duke going out in the first round, I remember Duke-Buttonel Buttonel can't beat them twice. No, I agree, that was a one-off, or like a George Mason making the runs that they did, or the year that UConn and Kentucky were in the championship as like an 8-9,. It's like those teams wouldn't have made it. It doesn't happen, but that's what makes it fun, is it's like our team has a chance because all we've got to do is win one game.
Speaker 2:Oh, everybody has a chance in that tournament, everybody.
Speaker 1:We've now seen the 16 beat a 1 multiple times. Before it was like hey, that's never happened, never will, and all of a sudden it happened.
Speaker 2:It's like nobody's safe no, you see some hot at the right time you can make a run seen several, you know, seven, eights, whatever. Make it to final four. Yeah, just because of that one game if you can just, and that's the chaos of it is to me was so exciting like I love that.
Speaker 1:But it's also very different because college I feel like all year we see good basketball or nba like the season. It's like you just don't really care that much.
Speaker 2:You need to win enough, but not everything. I'm afraid that dilutes the championship a little bit, because you wasn't the best team, you just got some games together and made it through. Now again, that can happen in NFL, it can happen in college football.
Speaker 1:But it does go back to the statement you made who's best right now? They were best right now, Maybe. So it's kind of a contradictory thing. It's hard to look at it that way because if you say, well, I want who's best right now, the team that won is the best right now because they made the run.
Speaker 2:I don't think they're the better team. I think they pulled off one game. The same reason you don't want NBA to even go down to five, because you want to get that better team they're going to pull it out, better team they're gonna pull it out.
Speaker 1:That's the same thing it's. It's the way that they have their bracket laid out, like I. Like before we started tonight I even talked about the nfl. I hate how the brackets laid out. You lay out a bracket but then you say number one plays the lowest remaining seed. Well, once you have the bracket laid out, you play who's next, like there's a list, it just keeps. It, keeps going, keeps going.
Speaker 1:We shouldn't then almost reseed everybody. That makes no sense. Yeah, they reseeded after that first round, basically, yeah, so I don't like that. So that's where I'm like with college basketball. I love the chaos, I love that. You just have to get hot at the right moment. It doesn't matter about once you got there. You get hot, you play the best basketball. You can win. Nba the playoffs that bracket's not set up that way. Nba the playoffs that bracket's not set up that way. It would be really hard for it to be the same way because there's way less teams in the league. There's way less spots. It's just a very, very different feel. And again, that doesn't mean I want more NBA teams. We've got like 30-something now already. I don't even know where we're at now. Adding more and more and more is not going to help.
Speaker 2:I think they will add more.
Speaker 1:Oh, I think they're going to. It's just I'm not saying I want 50 more. Like you, add four more cool, fine, I don't really care.
Speaker 2:Let's add a few more and take it down to five game series. I don't.
Speaker 1:Well, I think the NBA is in a bad spot. I think they could even go less games throughout the season. They play lot.
Speaker 2:That's why you don't care about some of them, because it's one of 82. Who cares?
Speaker 1:Well, I don't like, within the NBA, this whole idea of load management. That is the biggest joke to me. You are paid to play sports For you to say that I'm going to take off. I'm one of the biggest names in the sport. I'm going to take off. I'm one of the biggest names in the sport, I'm going to take nights off. You're losing the league money. Those guys are coming to watch you. They're not coming to watch that guy on the end of the bench.
Speaker 2:And shocker. Here I'm going to disagree with you a little bit, because if I'm coming to watch it, yes, I'd hate that that guy's sitting out, but you're playing for the fans. But as a coach or GM or owner whoever I want to do what's best for my team to go win the championship, and if that is what's best, that's what I'm there to do.
Speaker 1:But I don't think that's what's best, typically these guys that you have a bunch of load management. Those aren't the teams that win, because you're not getting the same minutes, you're not getting the same minutes, you're not getting the same rotations. It's messing up the flow of everything because then, especially in nba, they come in dressed dressed to the nines and they're sitting on the bench way up on the bench, not down at the end.
Speaker 2:they're a distraction, like they're there and they're, they're still getting all this camera time and it's like what's the yeah, I think what you're saying is a little bit different argument, um, but I still think the coach or gm, whoever again, whoever makes the decision, you can't say they don't have the right to do whatever.
Speaker 1:Maybe they're wrong in the decision oh, it's not helping them, but what you got to let them do it. If that's what they think, I don't think you do have to let them do it. I think you make a play like by you sitting out, you're not helping your team.
Speaker 2:You could easily just say okay, well, they're having back spasms, so they can't play this game.
Speaker 1:They could come up with some reason and I agree with it.
Speaker 2:But you can't. How are you going to prove that they did or didn't have a sprained ankle? That's bothering them.
Speaker 1:So Joel Embiid has already been investigated this year for possible fake injuries. I'm all for it. Yeah, like don't say you're hurt if you're not hurt, if you're not hurt and you don't want to play retire if you don't play, I think that should be between you and your organization.
Speaker 1:So my thought is if I pay you that much money to come play a game for entertainment purposes. You need to play, no, I agree. But it's the team that's paying them right. But but but I'm saying as a team, as a coach, as an owner if I'm going to pay you this much, that means I need to do that to equate to wins. I can't win if you're not on the court so I need you to play.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I think you've got a little bit of an argument there. I understand that point. I just don't think the league should be involved in what the team can and can't do with their players, because they're the ones well, the.
Speaker 1:Thing is, though they're paying for them with league money at times, so that league kind of has to, because they're getting revenue share there's.
Speaker 2:There's the whole collective bargaining, so league kind of has a say in it because their money is also so do you feel that way about all sports, even like all pro sports, or do you feel that way in college?
Speaker 1:Well, I don't think you see it in any other sport. Nba is the only thing we're seeing.
Speaker 2:The NBA you do see it. Yeah, I agree with that. I guess if it came over and if you start seeing it in the NFL, if you start seeing it in baseball they play once a week. You know baseball about baseball. So is that you know you're resting pitchers? Obviously?
Speaker 1:and pitchers obviously that's a little different thing, I think a little different on their arm, like, but again, so baseball has a hundred and what is it? A ton like, 162 games, whatever it is, it's a lot, but you also have a much larger roster, so you've got a much bigger thing. So you're then you've got people you're calling up.
Speaker 1:It's a little different how they do and again, I think there's too many baseball games, that that's a long season for me when it comes to nba take it down from 82 games, play less, give them a couple more days in between. Oh, I think that would help. Like that to me makes more sense than me saying I just had to work my butt off at work to go get a ticket to watch this guy. Now I can't watch him because he wants to take a night off, because he had to play two days ago. Like you're, you're supposed to be in shape, you're supposed to be able to go do that stuff. Like the reason these other guys don't make it to that level is because they didn't have all those things that you had.
Speaker 2:Like you should be able to do it as a an owner of an organization. I'm paying you millions of dollars. Stop telling me you need to rest if you're not hurt. Correct, and there's a difference of being hurt and being injured. Oh, 100%, like you can get out there and keep going Now.
Speaker 1:Here's what I'll say. I'm paying you for that. Here's what I'll say If you're hurt early season, get healthy so we have you for later I get that, but if you're not I've played three games this week I'm just tired. Get in better shape.
Speaker 2:Your job is to be in shape. I'm sorry, that's what you're supposed to be there for it just is. Yeah, and if you can't?
Speaker 1:handle that. I'll get somebody to replace you. So, as a coach or an owner, I want you to play because I'm paying you a lot as a fan. I want you to play because I'm here to watch you play, not the scrub at the. I came to watch the big guys and so for me, like this whole, like I'm going to take nights off, I'm only going to play this percentage of games. Why, yeah, like, what is your reasoning for that?
Speaker 2:For the betterment of the league, like the NBA should probably put pressure on the owners and I think the owners should probably put pressure on the players. But there might be, like you brought it up, there might be some talk about hey, let's get less games, let's get some more time between I.
Speaker 1:I'd rather see that than I would, guys not play.
Speaker 2:You know, as an owner, if I see my players getting injured more often because they're wore out all the time, then yeah, I want the league to make some changes, because I don't want to pay a million to me, the change is slightly less games or heck, as much as I'd say this make the season longer.
Speaker 1:As far as how long you actually go yeah, spread it out. So they can spread it out a little bit. Because as a league now they're saying if you don't play a certain percentage of the games, you're not eligible for any postseason awards. So, like here recently, Luka Doncic has been hurt for the Mavericks. He is now no longer eligible for MVP.
Speaker 2:See, I don't like that being injured, like if you can play that well even at being injured.
Speaker 1:But here's my thing your stats are going to look better because you don't have to do it as long. So if you can, only play 30 games.
Speaker 2:I hadn't thought of that point.
Speaker 1:If you're averaging 30 points a game in 30 games, cool. What would you have done in 80? So the guy that did it in 80, that's way more impressive. That's a good point. So Stats are very different. So that's where I'm like all right, I get it. I like that idea, but the problem is because of some of these guys do load management, we could see an MVP. That makes no sense, which I don't like, and you can't say that they need it, because look at how many of the big guys play every single game. There's a lot of these guys that may miss one or two a year. It's doable.
Speaker 2:You just got to want to Like miss one or two a year, yeah, like it's doable. And again, you just gotta want to. I said I go back to the owners that if I'm an owner and you're the player that constantly needs some time off, okay, I'm time to trade you. I want somebody that can come in here and play. It's just like a you know every other superstars have the power, oh I know they do.
Speaker 2:You're the superstar, you do what you want but it's like every other you know person out here at their job. If you're not getting up going to work every day, no matter how tired you are, and getting your job done right, then we'll go find somebody else well, and that's that's what I see all the time on social media, these guys that are saying I work 50, 60, 70 hours a week.
Speaker 1:I don't get to call and say, hey, I'm tired, I can't come in today, I gotta go work and I'm making way less than you. You should probably go to work. You should probably go do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I'm with you there. I just think it needs to be done the right way and come from the person paying the check. Maybe they put it in the contract.
Speaker 1:We've talked about contracts and that's what I'm saying. Nba kind of is writing that check and like NBA kind of is writing that check Like the owner. It technically comes through the owner, but it's through revenue share of ticket sales, it's through jerseys, Like. So it is like they kind of do have a way to say that I mean, like what the CBA? I think right now they get 6% revenue share, so it's not a ton, but when you're talking billions, it's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. So it's very, very different. So, yeah, got off onto that. That's a tangent. That's something I've hated for a while.
Speaker 2:If my turn was for hate it, that would have been there for sure, I'm sure, for sure we're going to have some hate it's for you. You know, you never know. I may come across something I love and be like, hey, you need hate it this week because I love this.
Speaker 1:This one time this year. We hope to have that Over under over under two and a half this year. So you know, without just physically trying to be like, oh, I just, I love that Because you just naturally like it's easier for you to just hate something.
Speaker 2:Well, you know it's. We talk about reviews online and stuff like that. You know you never put a review. If you liked your product, you bought or whatever. That's not true. I've done that, have you really? Oh yeah, you're one of very few.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll give you five stars.
Speaker 2:I never I don't do reviews normally, but if there's something really really bad, then I might.
Speaker 1:It's going to take some time. Oh no, I'll review, I'll review.
Speaker 2:Good, bad. I need to say it's good, yeah, but that's not the way most are.
Speaker 1:As a business owner, if I do good, tell me I did good.
Speaker 2:I agree with that, because it really does play a part in your business.
Speaker 1:It helps. That's a huge thing. It pushes your name out there more.
Speaker 2:Google stars, Google reviews, Yelp reviews, all that stuff.
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Speaker 2:Okay, sorry, a group of emus, I won't be around that no, no, you'd rather be around the real mob, the actual mob for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1:I feel like I'm safer in that that regards I don't know.
Speaker 2:I want to get a pet emu. Can we get like a mascot?
Speaker 1:yeah, he's the logo. That's as close as we're getting.
Speaker 2:No, no I want a real one. Why I? Just because you don't like them. That's that just.
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Speaker 1:I've got all kinds of stuff. Listen, my job is to make you think I'm smart, not to actually be smart, oh okay.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know if that made me think you're smart or not, I'm not sure. Yet I've still got to think about that one. But uh, you know, I see these things. You're thinking I'm good. You know, we talked about the movie a while back with kevin james stuff, and he tries to ride a ostrich I think his liver oh yeah can that really be done?
Speaker 1:like is that people ride ostriches? You can ride them, okay. Yeah, I don't know if I can, I'd probably squish it like a saddle or you just jump on it. He's bareback yeah, yeah, I've seen. I've seen it done.
Speaker 2:I'm never gonna partake, but I've seen it no, I know they're big birds, I just didn't know how strong they're. Oh yeah, I mean they're starting to hold weight. So again, I know they're right.
Speaker 1:I don't think like a guy like my size I mean I'm a big guy like I don't think that's probably the smartest, yeah, but yeah, I mean I think you could get on one you just called me little.
Speaker 2:That's kind kind of nice. I'm not fat today.
Speaker 1:Miniature. It's different. Miniature, wow All right Miniature is not the same, and on that note everybody.
Speaker 2:So we've got big guy and miniature.
Speaker 1:Miniature Yep, okay, fun size if you will. I don't know if that's any better.
Speaker 2:I don't know, where are we going? I I don't know if that's any better.
Speaker 1:I don't know when are we going. I think it's after midnight.
Speaker 2:It's late, I don't even know where we're going with this anymore.
Speaker 1:I'll say this we love you guys. Thank you guys for supporting us. Thank you for listening, because this has been a lot of fun.
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Speaker 1:Yeah, I, I think you've got to correct those taste buds, because I don't see how you could pick that over the other.
Speaker 2:That's my only ask this week. Oh no, I have one more ask. Oh okay, don't hold up the parking.
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