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What if you could navigate the chaotic world of sports fandom without missing a beat? Join us as we tackle the age-old debate of live sports versus recorded games, sharing our own mishaps and strategies for keeping spoilers at bay. Discover Tyler's unique approach to catching every Buckeyes game and David's relentless passion for NASCAR. We unravel the complexities of our modern viewing habits, all while juggling the demands of busy schedules.
Our analysis of the college football playoffs heats up with matchups like Penn State vs. Notre Dame and Ohio State vs. Texas. We dig into the potential advantages of game scheduling, debate Notre Dame's conference championship absence, and share stories of unexpected interruptions, like the infamous loud truck. From the evolution of sports contracts to the impact of NIL offers on players like Quinn Ewers, we explore the shifting landscape of college athletics with humor and insight, not forgetting our predictions for the final showdown.
And what’s a podcast without some fun detours? We reminisce about fast food adventures, from Taco Bell's crispy chicken nuggets to the nostalgic charm of dino-shaped chicken delights. Our chat meanders into the whimsical world of iconic marketing vehicles like the Wienermobile, and we can't resist poking fun at the ever-evolving attire of sports coaches. Wrap up with us as we discuss the need for more engaging PGA Tour playoffs and the quirks of refereeing in college basketball, all tied together with personal anecdotes and a good dose of humor.
Welcome back everybody to the Not Amused Podcast here with Tyler and David. Once again it's that time of week A little bit of recording, a little bit of nonsense, I guess a whole lot of nonsense. I say a little bit and it always turns into way more than I expect.
Speaker 2:Yep, hello everyone. Thanks for tuning in again, or your first time, as you pointed out last time to me.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Don't feel like you have to catch up, because we we reference things, but it's never a. If you didn't listen to this, you're not going to understand.
Speaker 2:Um, it's all madness and crazy it is, I'm not gonna be upset. If you want to go back and listen to, oh, no, please do we love we love to see the the downloads, the likes, the comments.
Speaker 1:You know all the interaction. It's been a lot of fun hearing people talk about the podcast and kind of seeing some people that would not have guessed listen and they're reaching out like, oh hey, it's been really good, really good that's a strong term, but we're trying to get there. We're trying to make it a little more fun for everybody every week and trying to get some more involvement with everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we've got a few people that reach out and say oh, you're doing a good job, and then it's a very small group. So I know the large group, they just don't really like it or something probably, but it's okay. But I do want to say real quick, brought to you by For you Golf.
Speaker 1:Correct, correct.
Speaker 2:Got to get that in there.
Speaker 1:Got to get that in there, I know.
Speaker 2:I skipped right over it.
Speaker 1:I mean, what are we? Eight Week eight? I don't even know anymore.
Speaker 2:No, we're on week eight. It's good that I don't know the count, that means we're still going.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so this is episode eight. We don't really have seasons because we kind of just keep going.
Speaker 2:Like the Energizer Bunny.
Speaker 1:I forgot about the Energizer Bunny. Is that still a thing? I haven't seen commercials of them in a long time. But again, here's some randomness.
Speaker 2:How much do you watch commercials? If I watch something on, so I have YouTube TV, right. If I watch something on that, that's like a live TV. I've probably recorded it ahead of time and so I'm just fast forwarding through commercials anyways.
Speaker 1:Well, so I watch a lot of ball games live, especially like all the college football playoff games. You know we get into all these big basketball games. I'll watch those live because I'm always afraid I'm going to get spoiled from somewhere. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I'm like, all right, I got to watch it live, or else I can't go look at anything. What I end up doing is, while I'm watching something, something will come up or something will get my attention. I want to see again, I'll rewind it, or whatever. I find myself not 100% live, so I still usually fast forward, at least some of the commercials.
Speaker 1:But yeah, because it kills me, You'll text me. Hey, I'm not caught up yet. Don't tell me what's going on. And I'm like we're in the third quarter and you haven't made it to halftime yet and I need you to be up here, but when the game's ending, I'm usually right there. I'm caught up. I didn and watch it tonight and I'm like, oh my gosh, because.
Speaker 2:I'm busy. You're going to see that somewhere, though Sometimes I do. I do a pretty good job of staying off social media and different things like that, so with that, I guess it depends.
Speaker 1:Is it a big game Like? I'll be honest with you, you record a lot of Kentucky football that way. There's not many big Kentucky football games. No and not really matter as much.
Speaker 2:And, to be honest with you, a lot of those I don't go back and watch, right, that's true, I've got them recorded if I want to or if I'm sitting there, you know nothing to watch and no games on.
Speaker 1:Bored one night and going back and watching Kentucky football games.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't go back and watch it once I know, especially once I know they lost and lost bad like happens a lot lately.
Speaker 1:That's fairly typical. Yeah, that Cool.
Speaker 2:But like Buckeyes games, you know I try to watch those more live. Or if I'm busy, you know I try to just not find out who won, and sometimes I can, sometimes I can't.
Speaker 1:It's just really hard with the bigger teams and bigger games because it just gets posted everywhere on every social media.
Speaker 2:You have to stay off social media, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I guess it depends on what you're doing. If you're doing something, you know out with the family, whatever, fine, yeah, it's a little bit easier to stay off. But when you're sitting at home or you're, you know, working on something at some point, you kind of check your phone.
Speaker 2:It almost feels like yeah, sometimes I'll accidentally pull something up and go oh crap I've seen halftime scores. I can't see that, so I do that a lot of times, uh, during nascar season too, and I won't watch them all a lot of times. I'm going to sleep talking about. I know you don't like it, but it is getting close to start back up again. But, I don't have time to sit down. You know, most of them Sunday afternoons for that many hours.
Speaker 2:And I'm the type of person when I start watching NASCAR race game, whatever I got to see every piece, I can't cut in and out of it and fast forward some of it. I just can't do it because it's all a puzzle to me and I don't want to get to the end and go wait a minute. Why'd that happen? What's this so? That's?
Speaker 1:that's what's and you know you'll have a lot of people say the same comment about what I just said. Nascar, you know, fall asleep. Whatever about golf you don't get to watch everybody in golf, oh I know you miss. That bothers a good portion of stuff, especially when you're talking Sundays, final day of a tournament. You're really only paying attention to those top five, six, seven in the leaderboard. If you have somebody that you're like, hey, that's my favorite, but he's 27th you may only see a couple of shots here and there.
Speaker 2:There's no real way to watch that. That's the way I am with NASCAR. Even if you don't care about the drivers or whatever, you get to the end of the race and you see a couple drivers you know kind of going for the win and you didn't realize the first half of the race. This other car driver was really good but he wrecked out or something you're like. So you don't see the, the whole piece well.
Speaker 1:But even then, though, like and there's no good way to do this, I'm just kind of thinking about this out loud at this point If you get a guy that works himself up from 20 something into a top 10 finish and he needs a top 10 for something, probably not seeing that because they're not following that guy, oh yeah, yeah. On on the, the thing that goes across the bottom, on the little ticker. You know it's going to show as they improve.
Speaker 2:But at the end you see, okay, he finished 10th, but you don't see, well, he had to start way in the back to get there Right.
Speaker 1:So you're like, well, that wasn't good, he got pushed back to the back for whatever penalty or whatever they're doing. Yeah, and I kind of feel that same way with even football, basketball or whatever you know.
Speaker 2:Basketball, you know. Okay, why didn't this person play very well?
Speaker 1:Well, they had four foul. If you watch the game you'll see the fouls happen. That's a little bit different because there's some few people like on the court oh no, that's what I mean.
Speaker 2:That's why I can't fast forward to just like key plays oh yeah, like I gotta see every piece of it so it depends because, like youtube, tv does a pretty good job.
Speaker 1:You can, you know, watch some highlights, and they don't show necessarily the stat portion, it's more just like some big highlights of the game to kind of get you caught up. Get you caught up to it.
Speaker 2:I've never done that because I don't think I'd like it.
Speaker 1:Well, if it's football, it's like all right, you're going to see some scores. Okay, this is how we got to this point. Total, You're not going to see the injury if there's an injury.
Speaker 2:You're not going to punk before they scored that like. Is that the first drive? I?
Speaker 1:think that's more because you're a fan like somebody, like somebody that's a bigger fan, because a lot of fans can watch it. They don't care. I'm that way with, and you're also anal.
Speaker 2:So that's that's. I'm that way, watching tv shows, movies, my wife's like I don't have to hear everything I said well, I do, I gotta hear.
Speaker 1:It drives me nuts and and I know I'm gonna hear about this when she listens to it, amanda will have something and like she'll be cleaning or cooking or doing something, and she's like I'm watching a show. I'm like you've not looked at the tv in two hours you're watching nothing like, and she's like well, I don't, it's something I watch, don't have to actually look at it and I can't do that.
Speaker 1:You're not watching, you're listening to something that drives you might as well just you know, either you know listen to a podcast or an audio book. It makes no sense. At that point You're not actually watching anything. Yeah, no, to me watching is eyes on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but she's probably got Friends on or something like that and she's seen it 15,000 times, or Gilmore Girls or whatever 15,000 is probably a low number, yeah so she probably already knows every word. She don't need to hear it.
Speaker 1:She could probably have a few episodes that she could rewrite, like write them all down and know it fairly close. Well, she does that a lot anyways, because she like little thing, especially friends. It's an easy show that little things that they say kind of pop up or like remind you of something else. It's like it just takes you right to that kind of scene. Yep, so that's a little bit different that's why I like sitcoms and stuff.
Speaker 2:That's why I still there's. Oh, by the way, there's a new sitcom coming out tonight, actually actually, that I'm ready to watch. It's with Tim Allen, so it's a new one Tim Allen, cat Dennings.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, I've seen the previews for it. I don't know a ton about it, we just really like Tim.
Speaker 2:Allen in my house about everything he does Right. So we're kind of ready for that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I've seen a little bit here and there, but I don't truly know what it's about, so I'll have to go check that out at some point Hopefully it's good. I don't really have much to watch right now other than the sports, so I need something. So I'm okay if it's good. I'll be fine with picking up something weekly, but right now it's mainly football and basketball and football. We're slowing down, it is slowing down. Nfl playoffs are getting ready to start, but college football, we're down to the semifinals.
Speaker 1:Yep, yeah so we've got one game Thursday, one game Friday. Is that correct yeah?
Speaker 2:that's right. I actually looked at it just a couple hours ago because I wanted to make sure.
Speaker 1:So who do we have Thursday to you I?
Speaker 2:didn't see the word, I really didn't pay it much attention. Penn State, oh, penn State, notre Dame, yeah, okay, yeah, because Buckeyes play Texas on Friday. They're Friday, that's right.
Speaker 1:Because originally I saw it. I thought it was going to be Friday, saturday and it ended up being Thursday, friday, which is a little bit odd for me. It is a little like a week from this coming Monday. Okay, and again I'm like we're doing championships on a Monday night. It's going to end up being late Like it's hard to do.
Speaker 2:Is there an advantage in a one-day difference? Like Ohio State and Texas play Friday, If they, you know whoever goes on from there, they're a day less Less preparation, less feeling in your body.
Speaker 1:I think some of that depends on how the game before went Like for Notre Dame-Penn State. This is going to be a physical game. I believe it's going to be a very physical game, so they probably need that extra game. Both teams want to just pound the ball. They're going to run it. It's going to be kind of like the Notre Dame-Georgia Right on cue.
Speaker 2:I was going to say he came by right about the same time as always.
Speaker 1:Again, if you listen to this, I'll buy you a muffler. Just come find us. This is getting ridiculous.
Speaker 2:It's every single week. I don't know if you can hear him on the podcast or not. To be honest with you, Well, if you can't.
Speaker 1:there's a truck that drives by, and I feel like we've talked about this like six different times now. There's a truck that drives by here where we record, and it is so loud, and it's just this old truck no mufflers, just call me, I'll hook you up.
Speaker 2:I think the guy that I've seen driving it's fairly young yeah, he's really young, he's like early 20s, I feel like.
Speaker 1:I've seen a couple times during the day, but usually I feel like I only see him, you know, later, later at night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he must work a late shift or something coming home, maybe, maybe.
Speaker 1:Well, back to the topic. I know we get off topic really quickly around here. I guess at this point we're just kind of proud of it. I don't know, we're a little bit all over the place.
Speaker 2:Speaking of that, I wanted to ask no, I'm just kidding, I was going to say it'll go into something else, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Notre Dame-Penn State is where we were.
Speaker 2:I know you mentioned, I guess, james Franklin, coach of Penn State, right Kind of not liking that Notre Dame had got less games than them because they don't have a conference to play in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I saw it. I think it was last night or today, I really can't remember. It all kind of runs together. But he's saying you know, we're here to represent our conferences. And then he's like wait, excuse me, we're here to represent our conference because, notre Dame being independent, they're not representing anybody but themselves. So then he kind of just got into the quick little section of you know, they've played an additional game because of the conference championship. With Notre Dame not being in a conference, they can't play a conference championship.
Speaker 2:Well, do you think that is an actual advantage or not? Because we actually saw. You know, we haven't talked about this yet all the conference champions lost.
Speaker 1:Every team that had a bye. They had a bye. But here's the thing Maybe with the exception of Georgia, the other three didn't even look good Like. The start of Arizona State game was rough, second half was better, but Texas did not look good in that game at all.
Speaker 2:I don't believe in Texas.
Speaker 1:They're not the Buckeye fan. They play Friday.
Speaker 2:But I've been saying all year long I don't think Texas is as good as everybody thinks they are. I know you're going to say, well, they should have won. Arizona State to me was the better football team than Texas. They just couldn't do anything in the red zone. They were struggling there.
Speaker 1:Well and I mean you hear this If you like football at all. You've heard it a million times Good teams can score in the red zone. That's what they say Now. Again, if Arizona State wins that game, they're not beating Ohio State. I don't think any other team in the bracket Arizona State really even matched up well with it's just that team they did I just don't think Texas is any good.
Speaker 2:We're going to find out Friday night.
Speaker 1:I mean, here's the thing. It's hard to say they're not any good, because they've made it to the Final Four Like they're in the top four. But that's all about who you play, but they also made it to the SEC Championship game.
Speaker 2:And lost.
Speaker 1:Agreed, but to the same, they've only been beat by one team all year, which?
Speaker 2:is, but who did they?
Speaker 1:beat. Okay, if we want to go into that topic, then who did Penn State beat?
Speaker 2:Who did? Notre Dame?
Speaker 1:beat. You could go into that with every team, Because even then Oregon beat one good team. All year they beat Ohio State. No, I agree with you 100%.
Speaker 2:They should have lost that game too.
Speaker 1:So two-thirds of the team, if not more of the teams in the playoff. We could really get into that argument, but that's one again. We've said the playoffs have to make some adjustments. There's got to be some selection adjustments. There's got to be something that changes, because I don't think we're actually on a bad track. I actually think it's turned out fairly decent how it's fell with everything, but it looks really bad your first year that the four buys there's already kind of a buy curse, like we gotta wait till next year to see if somebody can actually win so, if I'm not mistaken, um the four teams that are still in and that final ranking, take out the buys and all that correct.
Speaker 2:We're ranked three, four, five, six so you still only have the top six in there, because one and two got knocked out, correct. So yeah, we brought in 12. We didn't need 12. Apparently, the first six would have been fine. Now it's been more fun. Don't get me wrong. I want the 12.
Speaker 1:I would say, yeah, I think the biggest part is well for the NCAA. You know the money-h love the NCAA, don't you? Don't get me started on the NCAA. We'll be here a while. I can't get onto that topic right now.
Speaker 2:Oh, we found something else you don't like this time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but there's a lot of things I do like, so that's a little different. The NCAA is making a ton of money off this having the extra games. You know those first ones are technically not bowl games, so they're still making money off that kind of like a conference championship week and then making all the money on the bowl game stuff where you get into that next round. And I'm not really sure how I feel about how the bowl games are now. They feel really weird positioning they do. But I think the stadiums that have hosted have been good for the most part. I think we've seen large enough venues that were pretty good. Curious to see We've got a semifinal of Texas and Ohio State in Texas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I saw a statistic where you know the other three teams outside of Texas are traveling like 1,200, 1,300 miles, Right, and Texas is going like 200 miles.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they've not had to travel much at all. Yeah, so that's got to be an advantage. Now they've also not looked good either in any of their first games. I'm telling you I don't believe them. They beat a Clemson team that really probably shouldn't have been there, but other than that they've really not been very impressive. Now, the start of the game, it looked like Texas was going to blow them out because it was just two plays, but they had one big pass play Correct and then a punt return.
Speaker 2:Right Two plays. But they had one big pass play Correct and then a punt return Right. But when you have something like that pretty early, it's easy to get it out of hand. I think that's kind of a shock play. And again, arizona State had the buy. They were sitting for a week and I think that's part of it. They've got to come back, get in the rhythm.
Speaker 1:It's kind of hard to say that because under the old metrics, like back when we go like the bcs, they would have over a month off like they'd finish and then wouldn't play their bowl game until but they all like late january so now you got some that are playing necessarily because you, you own the bcs.
Speaker 1:You only had two, you two teams, so but they're both sitting, so kind of like those four teams did. But it's like I never like that, because I feel like at that point you're almost having a mini off season. Yeah, it's just, there's a lot of things that can happen in that amount of time. So I did like that this one as a whole, even though they sat, they sat a week, it wasn't like they sat.
Speaker 2:It wasn't a ton they didn't sit this.
Speaker 1:You know two, three, four week time period.
Speaker 2:No, I agree with you there, but it clearly made a difference or something it did.
Speaker 1:None, but it clearly made a difference or something it did.
Speaker 2:None of those teams had the lead at all, did they?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Right from the beginning. They just got pounced on.
Speaker 1:So again, it's really hard. Georgia's out their quarterback. That's the first start and I've got to say I thought I was believing in Kirby Smart and I thought he was going to come in and still be fine. I didn't think they had a chance, because the kid, the kid not that he's bad, he's obviously at georgia, he's back with georgia, so he's got to be good.
Speaker 2:But that's a different level and notre dame's a solid I didn't think georgia looked good really anywhere like I didn't feel like any.
Speaker 1:You know, faster than the game that was gonna that was hard to me because I do feel like notre dame's a little better than most people thought, because they came out really confident and just kind of moved it.
Speaker 2:They did. They just kind of did what they wanted to do.
Speaker 1:They played their game.
Speaker 2:But I think that could be that momentum from the week before they kind of rolled into a team they've been sitting and just let's go.
Speaker 1:Well, that's, I think, the toughest thing for Oregon. Oregon, being undefeated all year, didn't have a weak sit Ohio State in that Tennessee game. They found something. They found some offense. They found some offense, they found some rhythm on defense, sending some pressure. So then it's like, okay, well, now we're just going to do the exact same thing, because Oregon offensively plays very similar to Tennessee. They like to sling it, they've got a good running back, you know all those kind of things. So for Oregon it's tough.
Speaker 2:Arizona State was one they kind of just squeaked in at the very end of the season, so that's not really one we were watching. They did the same one. Yeah, nobody even thought that was going to be in for the very end.
Speaker 1:Now, if we kind of go back, I said about Penn State early on, Penn State and Tennessee remind me a lot of each other. They play really really good defense for the most part, other than Tennessee, Ohio State, whatever, Played really really good defense. Tennessee just got a buzzsaw, but Tennessee can usually score more points. Right now Penn State's scoring a decent amount of points, but they still didn't look great against Boise.
Speaker 2:State's defense. They didn't just put up points easily. So before we get into our predictions on what's coming up here in a couple days, anything outside of all of the bye teams getting taken out, anything surprise you. Anybody you thought was better than you originally realized.
Speaker 1:I think the biggest thing for me is seeing Notre Dame playing really smoothly, like they're just kind of doing it pretty easy right now. I agree with that. I think, from looking at what the playoff has been so far, if we don't get Notre Dame-Ohio State final, we've missed out.
Speaker 2:Oh, that would be the end.
Speaker 1:Because I think that game has potential to be unbelievable.
Speaker 2:And I do think that's where we're headed. So I'm kind of skipping it a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you're kind of going into your predictions there.
Speaker 2:You just teed it up. Yeah, no, I agree, but it sounds like you agree with me?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's my thought, because if we go back and look at the Notre Dame losing to Northern Illinois, that's a fluke. Looking at it now it's like all right, that was just and that's fairly early in the season. They just ran into a team at the wrong time and since then Notre Dame has not looked like they could miss a beat Like they've just been doing whatever they want.
Speaker 1:You know they've got a really good running back. They've got another transfer quarterback that's playing pretty strong. Did really well against the Georgia defense, who's been pretty dang good all year, probably other than the Alabama game. Gave up quite a bit of points in that Alabama game, but as a whole Notre Dame has just looked really really good. So as a Buckeye fan, I am picking Ohio State to beat Texas. That's a game that kind of makes me nervous because Notre Dame could very easily win.
Speaker 2:That's going to be a good game and, like you said, I hope that's where we end up. I do too, At that point again.
Speaker 1:I'm going to cheer for Ohio State every single time I can, but if a team like Notre Dame was to win, that doesn't upset me. No, it doesn't I don't want to see a Penn State win, because that's the conference? I don't want Ohio State to not be the best team ending in that conference.
Speaker 2:There's one thing I noticed in the Penn State game Okay, their quarterback. One thing I noticed in the Penn State game Okay, their quarterback. And I don't know his name For Penn State yes, drew Aller. Okay, he whines about every single thing that happens on the field.
Speaker 1:So when I watched the Boise State game, he's very emotional about some very small things.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And I try to find myself trying to think is that him or is that the day and age that we're in? Because I mean, I don't see it with everybody, but it is more common, you see, guys that are constantly talking to our ref like hey, why aren't you calling it's like all right, well, you can't call everything Every single play. There's not always a penalty.
Speaker 2:He just stuck out more with every single play. I feel like he was always whining about it, upset about something.
Speaker 1:He's one that announced pretty early he's coming back, is he Okay?
Speaker 2:That's one thing he can work on.
Speaker 1:He's not a strong enough quarterback nationally. That I'm like all right, well, that's scary, he's good, he's got a lot of experience. But Penn State makes their name on defense. We know this. They've played Ohio State really good the past few years defensively. They've not been able to score points. So that's kind of what I said at the beginning of the playoff If Penn State can score points, they're trouble.
Speaker 2:I'm really glad we're not seeing more Big Ten against each other, like we saw with Oregon and Ohio.
Speaker 1:State. I want to see the conferences mixed up. I want to see the games that we kind of missed out on throughout the year, which, though Ohio State, texas is the season opener next year.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:Ohio State, texas is week one next year, but where at, I don't know. I meant to look that up because I have a feeling it will be neutral site. I highly doubt they're going to do a home-and-home. I wish A home-and-home would be way better.
Speaker 2:Maybe they'll go to Atlanta or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hopefully it's not in Texas again. I think Alabama or Georgia usually gets the Atlanta game, that's right they do, they'll do it somewhere.
Speaker 2:I just hope it's not in Texas again. Put it in Nashville or something Kind of middle. Put it somewhere we can go, let Clemson host. We'll go down there, just down the mountain.
Speaker 1:That's really easy. So no, but I also think that's a different Texas team for next year. That's Arch Manning's team period. I don't think there's any arguing at this point.
Speaker 2:Both teams, though they're going to lose a lot of players.
Speaker 1:So Howe State is going to lose a lot. But I just mean as far as offensively looking at Texas throughout the year. I don't know if Quinn Ewers hasn't been healthy, but he to me doesn't look like he wants to be there, like he doesn't look like he's just, you know, like he was the past couple of years. But he's also getting offers of $4 million, $6 million from who knows which. You know the whole NIL slash free agency, whatever you want to call it. You know that's what the transfer window is at this point. So I'm curious to see where he goes, who pays for it and what he does there.
Speaker 2:Well, so now you've got two topics in my head.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to figure out which one to go with Again, all over the place. You never know.
Speaker 2:So it reminded me one thing about Georgia their receivers couldn't catch anything, and so that hurt that quarterback too.
Speaker 1:The timing is very different from a different quarterback, I agree, but it hit their hands, it hit their body.
Speaker 2:And they just could not hang on to it. They were having an off night. Georgia is just not. They don't have the same, I guess, talent that they normally have. I hate to say that because they're still really talented.
Speaker 1:So that's what I said at the beginning of the year about Georgia. In wide receiver and tight ends, they tight ends. They're not nearly as strong as they typically are, not that?
Speaker 2:those guys are bad, obviously Because they're spreading around there.
Speaker 1:Part of that. Look what they lost with the lad McConkie kid, Brock Bowers kid.
Speaker 2:That's what it's going to be. We've talked about it several times. I kind of like it. I don't like what it does to some of the teams? I guess you don't know who's good and it mixes everything up. Some of the teams, I guess you don't know who's good and it mixes everything up, but that reminds me that I saw linebacker for Florida. I don't know if you've seen this, no, he said here's my demands. This is what I want.
Speaker 1:Yes, actually, I take that back.
Speaker 2:He basically said I want to play at Florida if you give me this, if you do this and he said I want $45,000 a month, I want to be the starting outside linebacker, I want to play more in possessions and I want to be in on every third down. Yes, and they said no, and he's in the transfer portal.
Speaker 1:So I mean so basically, for me that basically shows okay, every team in the country now knows his demands. If you'll meet it, he'll go, He'll go. If they'll meet it at Brevard College, he'll go.
Speaker 2:At this point he just wants the money. He put it out there to Florida and maybe they all put it out there to their team. I don't know if it all gets leaked.
Speaker 1:That's a very behind-closed-door thing. I'm not really sure.
Speaker 2:I'm not really sure how that works, just like talking about Texas quarterback and everything I'm sure they all have.
Speaker 1:here's what I want, and if you can't do it, I'm going to go to somebody that will. I think, though, for Texas, that's a really, really hard problem. Manning sitting one year okay, I get it. He's not going to sit again, so you either get Quinn for one more, or you get Manning for potentially two. For me, I would take Manning for two especially knowing that the kid's super talented.
Speaker 2:I want to see what he can do, because you're gonna have to pay you're paying them both.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to be there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's how I do because now you don't have money to pay some of the other guys and stuff well, me and my brother were actually talking about this uh, last week on our way to uh the wrestling show that happened over in asheville br. You know Brad, my brother's huge, huge wrestling fan, so we had a, we had a good time going to that show and he made the comment the Manning family is is running that kid like a business and they are doing a fantastic job at it. I have to say that's the way it is now right, they are doing a great job. Very protective of him With the whole EA Sports college football game. He wasn't going to be involved for a long time.
Speaker 1:And at some point they came back with a money amount that was enough to say, yes, he was opting out, he wasn't going to be in the game at all.
Speaker 2:That's crazy that he was able to do that, and he's not even a starting quarterback right now. Correct Now he will be and everybody knows he will be Exactly, he's a Manning.
Speaker 1:There's already been three of them. We're waiting for number four to come through. So yeah, they are running him like a business but job. Now a lot of these other kids aren't necessarily that marketable. They don't have the pedigree that came before Archie, peyton, eli. That's a little different.
Speaker 2:But what happens when a kid puts out these demands and another school doesn't come give them to you? In Florida's case, does Florida take him back if nobody says, yeah, we'll pay that If he lowers his demands.
Speaker 1:No, I'm sure there's some renegotiation. You do see at times that somebody will enter the transfer portal and then drop out and stay. It's not super common anymore, but it does still happen. It does happen some, so I'm sure there's some back and forth.
Speaker 2:There has to be a hard feeling, don't there?
Speaker 1:Like no, you wanted to leave us you know, why are you coming back now? So for me, unless you're like for me, there probably would be, but I don't know if they really can, because it like, like we just said, it's a, it's a business at this point, like it's a business decision, they're not really playing for pride of colors and pride of you know, I want to play at this school.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot of these guys are going for the money, so like and I'm just going to keep using the guy in florida because talked about his but so he asked for $45,000 stuff, right, nobody gives it to him. He comes back to you know, if Florida offered him $25,000. And he's like no, no, no, don't do it. Okay, now he comes back to Florida.
Speaker 1:No, $25,000 is not there anymore. Now it's $10,000. Like I feel worth, are we going to get as much out of him for 25 as we would to try to go find somebody?
Speaker 2:else, I agree with that. So then it'd be like all right, yeah, we'll go to that number, yeah, so yeah, I don't know. I just feel like there'd have to be hard feelings for your teammates, or now. I guess it happens all the time in professional sports contracts. Yes, it's all very.
Speaker 1:I actually saw somebody saying that we've been saying forever contracts, gotta have contracts.
Speaker 2:Need a buyout, need all this right. Um man, I don't remember who it was. Now, there was a coach. Oh, it was. Uh, yukon's women's, uh, basketball, uh, ariyama.
Speaker 2:No, the old coach, uh, gene gino, gino, yeah okay, yeah, yeah, you're right yeah, I was thinking okay of course I am, oh gosh I'm using my lines exactly that's why I did it I didn't think the last name didn't click, you said it, but um yeah, he was the one saying like we might as well just make contracts now and he said of course coaches can go wherever, but we have buyouts, we have contracts. So let's put buyouts in the kit I was was going to say Thank you.
Speaker 1:That's what. I want that to me makes a lot of sense, because then you can kind of control the money flow too. So if this kid asks for that number, if it's in the contract, okay, there it is. If then you can have contract negotiation. We can't transfer unless you pay your buyout.
Speaker 1:You or the school or somebody Say he had a one-year contract and then they're going to renegotiate that next year and he's saying well, for this new contract, here's what I need. Then they can have some negotiation. Now the only thing I'm confused at on the contract side how would they then treat arbitration? Because that's a whole different thing. You open up a lot of stuff, but or do you have arbitration? At that point, you basically just say if we can't come to one, you just don't play.
Speaker 2:It's got to be better than it is now, or at least worth giving a try.
Speaker 1:I agree it's not going to be perfect, no matter how we do it, but something's got to change for sure. Something's got to give yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:So before we get completely off topic, I think we already said it, but I'm saying Buckeyes Notre Dame moving into the final. I want to see Buckeye and Irish final I don't want to see it, no, but I think that's what's going to happen too.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm thinking, yeah, so after watching last week's games, I was sitting in Red Lobster watching Ohio State play. I don't know the last time I've been to Red Lobster. Oh, you're missing out. You're missing out. It was so good, it was so good.
Speaker 2:Last time I went there I got a steak, I think.
Speaker 1:Hang on, hang on Hang on, I'm going to stop talking about what I was talking about, because I had to go to this.
Speaker 2:I knew you was going to. Why do you?
Speaker 1:go to a seafood restaurant and get a steak.
Speaker 2:I'm not a big seafood person.
Speaker 1:I do like fish. Now, again, I will say this the real reason to go to Red Lobster is those biscuits. The biscuits, those are good, they are fantastic. No, but I mean, I love shrimp. I absolutely love shrimp.
Speaker 2:I like popcorn shrimp from Long John's. Does that count? I?
Speaker 1:actually had popcorn shrimp that night because they didn't have another one that I would usually get. But I had shrimp scampi, some popcorn shrimp and some shrimp linguine alfredo. Yeah, it was all fantastic. The only shrimp I'll eat is from Long John's. It made up for our horrible Longhorn experience.
Speaker 2:the week prior. Oh, yes, that was bad.
Speaker 1:So last week to have Red Lobster, which basically we ended up going to the AEW wrestling match in Asheville. It was a big Hurricane Helene support thing. Actually a few of the guys gave a couple of different $25,000 checks to some local basically local entities that are doing a lot of big things in the Asheville.
Speaker 2:Bumper Town area, the hurricane relief and stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, it was a couple of some of the guys that are actually. They still live in that area. Yeah, and they gave some really really big checks.
Speaker 2:Well, there's several of those guys, I think, in this area Cool stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, one was your neighbor for a while.
Speaker 2:He wasn't real big, yet he wasn't three houses over. So he kind of was, but he wasn't on the main scene, yet Actually I drove by his house a couple of times and it's weird because it's like a dead end. You have to turn around and come back.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it doesn't go anywhere.
Speaker 2:But he would do like a live stream on his porch.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh, he's like right over there One day he come driving by in his truck with his windows down and actually had his tag team partner with him in the truck. Okay, I'm driving by the house and, uh, so, yeah, yeah, so they they now live over in asheville, yeah, and they were obviously at the show basically talked about how their their head, honcho boss, was all set to have this match on hbo, hbo max for the first time they have a deal with them now, and it was going to be in some big metropolitan and they were talking about wanting to do a show to support the community and he said, nope, don't worry about it. He said we'll take that show there, and so it was really cool because that arena is tiny. So I mean, we got pretty cheap tickets and everywhere you can see. From the guy next to me I don't know what he was tripping on, but he does.
Speaker 2:I guarantee he doesn't remember that night you say was he one of those real legit wrestling fans um?
Speaker 1:I don't think he was a real legitimate wrestling fan. Now the guy three rows behind us, he was a real, legit wrestling fan he had every chant he had.
Speaker 2:You can point those guys out and he was so loud.
Speaker 1:I know brad said he went back and was watching some of the the stuff on tv, just kind of. You know, his daughter want to know if we we made it onto tv anywhere. And he said you can hear the guy behind us the entire night yelling over the broadcast and I'm like that's awesome. But no, it was. It was a lot of fun. But um, yeah, back to red lobster.
Speaker 2:Uh, you know, you and your steak at red lobster, um I guess I would get fish there, but I don't think it's as good, as I've had some fish and chips over at a place in Georgia over north of the land on the lake. That was amazing. Now I'm getting hungry. Anyways, go ahead.
Speaker 1:We talked about food too much. All that to go back and say was watching Ohio State Oregon in Red Lobster I know, I remember that, but I can't remember where I was going with that, but as a whole when I finished. I know where I'm at now. I was lost that bad. After finishing both of those games to see who was going to be in the Final Four, I felt it was going to be Ohio State, notre Dame. The whole time Watching their games, they looked like the two best remaining.
Speaker 2:They did. And I get a feeling even from national media just online and different things, you see, kind of what everybody else is trying to push. Everybody kind of feels that way too.
Speaker 1:I just think the way they're both playing I mean Ohio State right now they're playing better than they've played the past two years. Notre Dame has gotten hot at the right time as well.
Speaker 2:Is this going to become like the tournament? Being a Kentucky basketball fan, we always heard Cal for years In the season. It doesn't really matter, it's about the tournament. It's about March. It's about March.
Speaker 1:Is it going to?
Speaker 2:somewhat. Be that way with football. As long as you get in, just play your best football, then Everything else doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:I don't know that you can really do it with that, because where you're seated means a lot Like that Texas team. If they had to go down and play Georgia again, or they got seated to play Penn State or whatever, I don't think they'd make it.
Speaker 2:I could see that with your seat a little bit yeah.
Speaker 1:I think the seed means more because it's different, like with basketball, there's four of every seed, it's a big tournament. More because it's different, like with basketball, there's four of every seed, it's a big tournament. There's 68 teams. Now, that's a lot. Don't get me started on some of the seeding.
Speaker 2:Let's expand it.
Speaker 1:Why is there play-ins for number 10, seeds Right? I say this all the time 16s have play-ins. I've found that I don't care. But why does anybody higher have a play-in?
Speaker 2:That makes no sense. If Anybody higher have a place, that makes no sense. If you have to play to get in the tournament, correct, you should be number 10. Okay, so if you win, you're number 10. If you lose, you're out.
Speaker 1:Yeah good luck in the NIT, which at that point you don't even get to go to the NIT because you were selected. If you're good enough to play into a 10, when you lose. Maybe you're 11, 12, that.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you hate something with me here this time.
Speaker 1:Usually it's me hating stuff. There's some stuff we hate together but you hate so much it's hard to be with you on everything.
Speaker 2:No, I just tell you, I hate it. You probably hate as much. You just don't tell it.
Speaker 1:A lot of things I don't have as strong a feeling as you do about it. I may not hate it If I don't care for.
Speaker 2:I have facts. That's what I keep trying to tell you.
Speaker 1:I'm waiting to hear a fact, a correct fact. I'm sorry Fact to you, but it's not correct. I got a fact for you right now. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2:This is going to be right up your alley. It's food. It's a place. You like Taco Bell.
Speaker 1:Hang on A place I like that's a strong term, because taco bell is one of those like I don't have time, it's cheap and I don't care what I'm eating you go to taco?
Speaker 2:no, but you will go to taco bell or some of the others that when you're just getting enough fast food something if we're, if we're in brevard, yes, elsewhere. No, so well, let me ask this. Okay, I I saw an ad. Okay, the Taco Bell now has crispy nuggets and they're delicious.
Speaker 1:Have you had them?
Speaker 2:Yes, I don't know that I can go to Taco Bell and order nuggets.
Speaker 1:Do you know what they are? No, I don't. It's like going to KFC. They taste exactly like KFC's old nuggets not the current ones.
Speaker 2:Isn't the same company owned by them?
Speaker 1:Yes, it's owned by Pepsi.
Speaker 2:So they're just kind of throwing some chicken over here Wait a minute. Does that mean we can start getting quesadillas at KFC?
Speaker 1:Throw some of that chicken in there, I'm all for it. I'll try it. Crispy chicken in the quesadilla I'll try that.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I though I did get the burger. I think you got it with me one time at Arby's. Didn't think I could do it.
Speaker 1:I don't know, that's a little different because Arby's just has so many different kinds of meat. Arby's is beef. They're like primarily the roast beef place, but they carry beef and pork and all those things. They are a meat central place for sure. They do the fish, they do the ham, they do well, I could almost see taco bell maybe having some kind of grilled chicken in a bowl or something. Well, just these crispy chicken nuggets. They've got like two different types of chicken and then now they have these nuggets and they're actually really good see so you do go there, because you've already tried the nuggets well, so we were.
Speaker 1:I was during christmas, me and amanda were going christmas shopping. Uh, the boys were at my parents, so we went through Taco Bell as the last thing on the way out.
Speaker 2:Was it a surprise or did you already know they had the nuggets? I had no clue.
Speaker 1:We pulled up and was like why does Taco Bell have nuggets, which, again Taco Bell? For a while they've been bouncing in and out the fries. It's weird to me that they have fries. That's odd, it is I Todd.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 1:It is, I guess, they the chicken nuggets is awesome to have, but we got like a really small order just to try them and they were actually. They were really good, Really good.
Speaker 2:The the cheese with the fries helped me a little bit, Cause they had the little seasoning on the fries and the cheese.
Speaker 1:I get that cheese with everything. Oh, I agree, that cheese makes everything better. I'm not getting nuggets. All of their, all of their sauces are like trying to be a very okay they're taco bell style.
Speaker 2:No said don't sell me.
Speaker 1:No, you're not supposed to sell nuggets if you don't have barbecue sauce with it now I'll tell you this I want to try those nuggets and dip it in the cheese. I didn't do that. That would probably be good cheese and chicken breaded chicken. Yeah, I'm not feeling it ever put cheese on a chicken sandwich we already talked about my sandwich bread stuff yeah, we'll ask will if you've had a ham?
Speaker 2:sandwich, because I knew that's where you were thinking we'll ask will if you've had a ham sandwich?
Speaker 1:I've taken a lot because I think every time you've talked to him in the past week that's his first question, not even a question. He just says I know you didn't have a ham sandwich.
Speaker 2:Well, so you know this For the longest time I didn't go to any restaurant and eat chicken. I was all over it.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I know you didn't.
Speaker 2:And the only reason I started doing it is kind of got tired of the fast food burgers.
Speaker 1:when we're just grabbing fast food somewhere, that Well I would say, yeah, you definitely bounce around to Zaxby's more than you used to Like. You've actually gotten where you kind of like it.
Speaker 2:I just need some choices. It's your favorite?
Speaker 1:But you were for a while. Zaxby's was not even an option for you because it was just chicken.
Speaker 2:Like it didn't matter to you. Yeah, my computer just freaked out of here. I'm not sure what, maybe I'm uh, I heard it do something. Yeah, maybe I'm just growing up a little bit, finally, almost 40 we had this conversation about your uh dino nuggies, so I don't want to hear nothing about that.
Speaker 1:My kid loves the dino nuggies and he thinks hilarious when I say that. So now I can't not say it that way and they're not like it's. It's no different than just buying a chicken nugget shaped like a chicken nugget.
Speaker 2:That reminds me. You just you're clicking all kinds of stuff in my brain today, which is crazy, but Clicking on all cylinders.
Speaker 1:I'm always I don't know Firing all cylinders.
Speaker 2:So actually I bought some of these today. I bought Uncrustables.
Speaker 1:I bought some today. I do. So Uncrustable for those who don't know I'm sure everybody knows they're calling for Snow Friday, so I had to go to the grocery store and get some things.
Speaker 2:We had no bread right here at the local grocery store and I had to get these little bitty loaves? Yeah, I had to get these little bitty two loaves for that three, but I had like six bucks and I lost my bread. They have some more at the big one in town. Oh, Uncrustable is like a frozen pre-made peanut butter and jelly sandwich real quick.
Speaker 1:Grape or strawberry grape? Okay, thank you. I don't need no strawberry, I just had to ask some people do that.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to tell you, if you eat strawberry Uncrustable, just go ahead and turn us off right now we're not for you, that's not our taste.
Speaker 1:Sorry guys, I'm just kidding. Anyways, brian will be clipping that one for next week, by the way and we're going to.
Speaker 2:always Brian's been killing it on social media. So thank you, brian, for that. I keep thinking I'm going to text him and I'm busy doing something and I forget, and then it's late. I'm like I don't want to buy it. I try to like my my text to him is me liking it, like, yeah, that's it peanut butter and jelly sandwich, yep.
Speaker 2:So a few days ago I'm in the kitchen Obviously, no crusts, no crusts, yeah, no crusts. I'm in the kitchen and I'm thinking, man, I want a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, yep. And I open the freezer and I don't see any uncrustables. I'm like man, I could make it the old-fashioned way. I got bread, I got peanut butter, I got. I was like I don't really want to do that, so I open my freezer again and I start looking again.
Speaker 1:You're scrounging at that point.
Speaker 2:I'm like I do not want to make this by hand. You know the old-fashioned way Like how hard is it When's?
Speaker 1:the last time you had an actual peanut butter and jelly oh recently Because they're so good.
Speaker 2:I would rather have it than the Uncrustable. Like I love a peanut butter, still didn't find nothing. I'm like, fine, okay, I'm gonna make one, I'm just gonna do it all. Right, you broke down so I get the stuff out. My wife comes by, she's like told her what I was doing. She's like I don't think we have any bread. I look we didn't have any bread and I stopped my go. You know, I'm not really that upset because I didn't want to make it anyway.
Speaker 2:It just kept me from having to make it, it made me think how have we come as a society that if I can't go get a frozen peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it's too hard for me to make it Like I'm not?
Speaker 1:going to eat it. Listen, that's such an easy answer.
Speaker 2:We are so lazy as a society today.
Speaker 1:Like everything. Like kids don't do homework, they have AI do it. Chat GPT is writing papers like crazy. At this point I don't know how teachers do it, but yeah, I mean, we've been lazy forever. Why do you think fast food is multi-billion? Dollar companies, because it's just so much easier. Especially when you're on the go, it's way easier to just hop through.
Speaker 2:I remember this comedian. It was a little boy, his dad wrote his stuff or whatever and he was kind of doing he's like really Lunchables. How hard is it to make a sandwich and pack us lunch, you know Right. But that's what we've become is all Lunchables, uncrustables.
Speaker 1:That's the shots fired. I sent a Lunchable today for lunch, oh did you? Yeah, my oldest had one which he really does love a Lunchable.
Speaker 2:So every now and then we'll put one in his lunch to go, but they make so many of them stuff in them, right? Whether it's that healthy, I don't know about that oh healthy gosh no uh, but it's just, we've we've come there and I there's a uh comedian that I think you like to uh nate bargatze. Yep, um, yeah, he's coming to ashville soon, is he? I hate he was looking at my wife because she's like, oh, we gotta go see him when he comes. Uh, no, wait ash.
Speaker 1:No, I think it's greenville. Greenville, yeah, yeah, because we're probably gonna buy tickets. We love that he keeps everything clean. Oh, yeah, he's very funny and stuff.
Speaker 2:But he told the joke one time about watching a football game and he goes to the fridge and while he's gone the guy runs a 100-yard touchdown. He's like I couldn't even go to the fridge and he's like they're trying to tackle him.
Speaker 1:I he was basically talking about being out of breath, going to the refrigerator, and this guy just ran 100 yards and beat him from the couch to the refrigerator.
Speaker 2:But that's the way it is anymore. Oh, 100%. And that's what I thought of making this peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I'm like, how bad have I?
Speaker 1:become. Look at society. We are so lazy we won't even go through fast food. We get on our phone and order somebody to bring us the fast food.
Speaker 2:And it ain't like a pizza delivery guy. It's a random person driving around town.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and that in itself is a multi-billion dollar business. And don't worry, I'm not hating on like DoorDash or Uber Eats or any of those things, because I've used them Especially, like I like doing it in big cities I drive for Uber sometimes. I would say you've done that for a little bit.
Speaker 2:Not Uber DoorDash, uber doordash. Yeah, so I was thinking of uber, because we I was thinking that we used to say don't get in cars of strangers. Now we just order them on our phone I was gonna say we pull on our phone.
Speaker 1:Please send me a stranger to this address and take me home and get in the back seat with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's its own mess, but yeah no, so I've run, run doordash a little bit here and there, just you know, just because, but, um, but yeah, I thought that was funny and but today I bought Uncrustables, so I don't have to worry about making it.
Speaker 1:Well, so I was just. My thought on buying them today was literally my little one likes them. My older one only likes peanut butter sandwich. He just doesn't like jelly.
Speaker 2:Little one he likes them both Uncrustables. They need to make like a peanut butter. Only that's such a waste. I mean clearly there's a market.
Speaker 1:Your kid likes it. One kid yep, we're making it for the one kid. Can't make it for for all those, but they've. They've got some weird uncrustables, so that really wouldn't be that odd for them yeah they've got that one. It's like chocolate or something, I don't know?
Speaker 2:oh, I did see that one.
Speaker 1:I've never tried it, or maybe it's more like a nutella type thing, I'm not really sure. Yeah, um, but no, that doesn't look good to me. I don't really like that kind of stuff. Pb&j yeah, keep it simple. I'll tell you what I did notice on them.
Speaker 2:Very random fact I didn't notice this until recently that they have jelly in the middle and peanut butter on both sides of the bread I was like, oh, that's why it tastes so good.
Speaker 1:Now, do you wait for them to completely thaw before?
Speaker 2:you eat.
Speaker 1:I would prefer like them to be thawed oh no, if they are fully like a soft uncrustable, they're not good. Like you have to like crunch through the peanut butter.
Speaker 2:That's what makes it good they just buy crunchy peanut butter no, that's very different.
Speaker 1:That's very different. That's the. Then you're actually the peanuts.
Speaker 2:You want frozen peanut butter yeah, frozen peanut butter delicious yeah, I love it. I guess most of the time I don't have the patience, so I do eat them that way, but I'd prefer to be thawed out well, but again, uncrustables are designed for children to put them in their lunch box and then they're, you know, thawed by lunch.
Speaker 1:That's I, you know. I hadn't thought of that. Oh my gosh, how have you not thought about it?
Speaker 2:it's designed for children. I just thought it was so they would keep longer, because I have tried buying them, putting them in the fridge because I don't like them as cold and get them out and they're not as good after a couple days, like they're just not as good.
Speaker 1:I've never tried putting them in the fridge. I'm not sure. Yeah, don't do it. You buy them in the freezer section, so I assume when you get home we should put them in the freezer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's why I assumed they were frozen to just keep them in the freezer longer.
Speaker 1:The fridge. They just going to melt and be soggy.
Speaker 2:You know, I don't know what the clock says, but you know how long we've had a conversation about peanut butter and jelly sandwiches Uncrustables. Welcome to Not Abused folks. I just realized we're going on and on about peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 1:We've been on red lobster, we've been on peanut butter and jelly, we've talked about ham sandwiches.
Speaker 2:Briefly, we're a little everywhere. We don't have anything else important going on in the world. You know, getting to have a new president, college football, going on basketball.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was going to say we're super worried about certain things.
Speaker 2:Uncrustable is where it's at you know, wait, hang on.
Speaker 1:You said there's nothing new going on. There's something very new. That happened last night. Okay, the TGL had their first round, or first match of the season, so I didn't watch it. Well, honestly, we've not touched on it. You went to the Georgia-Kentucky beating. That happened last night.
Speaker 2:What is a beating it was physical.
Speaker 1:We can talk about that in a minute. So TGL first match, you had the Bay Golf Club and somebody else.
Speaker 2:Honestly, honestly I've been waiting on this, really enjoyed it if you don't even know who it was I was.
Speaker 1:I've been really excited about this because I think it's a great idea and I think there's ways to make it really good. So then, obviously, this was supposed to start last year and the stadium got destroyed in storms, so it got. They were like look, we can't get it done in time, it's going to interfere with too much. We're going to push.
Speaker 2:What you're saying is they actually had a whole nother year to get this together yeah, and and again.
Speaker 1:I like tiger, I like rory. We missed, they have absolutely missed on this. Um, I honestly don't know who the mc was. He was awful, okay, like so as soon as we started the broadcast.
Speaker 1:The first 15 minutes of this new league was nothing Like we talked to players, we talked about the league and I understand you've got to get some info out there because there's not a ton. But to me it's almost like let's put the info out as it's happening. That to me, just makes more sense, like I read somewhere today and I laughed because like wow, this is perfect. They said the first 15 minutes felt like reading the instructions to a board game and then, starting and still not knowing what's going on?
Speaker 2:Hey, that happens a lot and I was like that's actually exactly how it was. That's the only thing I really know about it. I've seen a couple little clips, nothing major, and then a lot of people kind of complaining about the broadcast itself. But so is that your complaint to the broadcast, or how was the gameplay on the no?
Speaker 1:so to me the broadcast isn't great, but the broadcast, I think, can improve over time, like that's something that we've noticed. If you really think back to way back when you're a kid, some people that's further than others. But football broadcast, basketball broadcast Are you calling some of us old. I'm not really calling you old, More in my head. Actually I was going to Brian. Sorry, Brian.
Speaker 2:He's older than both of us. Shots fired already on Brian.
Speaker 1:But he made a comment that time about being older than we are and whatever. But when you think about those times, no-transcript. The problem is, this is a very futuristic, you know fun golf thing and we basically turned it into just a regular old golf publication, like it was. Just it felt like I was watching a tournament, just in a different setting.
Speaker 2:So it was too just, too.
Speaker 1:So the technology wasn't enough to kind of say that the technology is cool, but it's, it's flashy and that's really that's going to wear off soon. So the product itself with that technology has to be good. And I mean, I'll be honest with you, most of these golfers are not big personality guys, like they're just not the guys that you just want to sit there. Now, the group that we had last night I think there are some more you get some Justin Thomases.
Speaker 2:Did they have any of those guys mic'd up or anything? Every one of them, okay, so the whole time, oh yeah, yeah, so the announcer.
Speaker 1:they had the Barry guy, scott Sean I can't remember his first name. He was there. He's basically like 85 feet away from these guys or 85 yards away from these guys and they talked like most of the night. Shane Lowry was kind of one of the funny parts. He actually took his headset out because he was the very first shot on it and he said I was so nervous I'd take my headset out because I was afraid like I was gonna be doing too many things at once but so like, how was it so they hit into the screen and then they go putt no.
Speaker 1:so basically the way you start it, for those of you that didn't watch, there's a lot of you know nuances of it, but really quick synopsis if you were outside outside of 130 yards, you use the back tee box. Okay. If you are inside of 130, but outside of 50, you use the front tee box and then, if you're inside of 50, you will play it on the actual green and the area behind you.
Speaker 2:It sounds like you're explaining the PGA point system to me right now. It's too much.
Speaker 1:The way it plays is actually not that bad. They have custom made courses, uh, custom made holes that are, all you know, have the same shape of green, the green itself. They can rotate it. Okay, it's on a giant floor that just spins, so there's real bunkers. They actually what I didn't realize till this past week week they're not hitting off mats, they're hitting off real grass. Oh, they bring squares like they have a, you know, a grow on on site that they, you know, switch them out and do all this. So that that was kind of cool.
Speaker 1:But again, I don't feel like that was super necessary, like I just kind of feel that's a little bit over the top and they're like oh, you know, pros have to hit it. Well, here's my thing. They're in florida, they're in a climate controlled arena. Everyone, everyone was wearing pants. Yeah, why is it so formal? Like I want to see these guys cutting up, goofing off, talking trash, you know, like they're hanging out on the course with their friends on the weekend, not like they're in another tournament. Like they tried to make it too just strict feeling.
Speaker 2:I enjoy the technology. You know we've put that at 4U Golf and some things. We had the simulator for a while 100%.
Speaker 1:I enjoy that part.
Speaker 2:But I was never really truly intrigued like, oh, I got to watch this. When it comes out Like I thought it might be cool, but it was never like I got to watch this. The differences of half technology. Half reel inside of a dome.
Speaker 1:I don't necessarily get it. I like the idea of the half reel because it just kind of makes it a little bit more fun to watch if you're there. I think if you're there it could be a better product. But for it to translate on TV I think we've got to figure out.
Speaker 2:Was it really slow?
Speaker 1:No, I mean not really. So they only made it to I, not really. They only made it to. I don't even think they made it to hole 10. It was a butt-whipping last night. The one team won 7-1. It wasn't even close. Basically, if you make a better score than the other team on a hole, you get a point.
Speaker 2:I remember you telling me some points.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pretty simple as far as the scoring system goes. But the guys that they had last night even mic'd up there's not much personality, uh, so it's kind of boring. The guys they had, you know one team xander shoffley, ricky fowler and uh, matt fitzpatrick you might as well watch paint dry talking to those guys. Yeah, like ricky's fine when he's with jt and speith, but not by himself.
Speaker 2:Like he's just not that I think that's part of it. You got to put the right groups together.
Speaker 1:Well, and for me it's like all right night one. I understand Tiger didn't want to play, Roy didn't want to play because they created this thing.
Speaker 2:They are part owners. They are ahead of this.
Speaker 1:So I'm like all right, I understand why they're not playing Somebody with some personality and some real draw. These guys didn't have that draw.
Speaker 2:I get that. But if you created this, you should be there night one showing it off.
Speaker 1:Well, they're there.
Speaker 2:No, but I mean they should be playing in it showing it off.
Speaker 1:So to me, if that's me, I want to be there.
Speaker 2:I want to be one of the first guys hitting. If you tell me Tiger is night one, maybe I want to check it out.
Speaker 1:I want to see Tiger on the set. Just shy of a million, it's like 919 000, which was 200 000 more than the duke game prior. That came on just before it, so I mean it had some views. Yeah, it's just night. One means nothing. What's it going to be in six weeks? Yeah, like how many viewers are we going to have six weeks? And if it's continuing the continuing the way it is currently, it'll be a half.
Speaker 2:That and that's the way I I am just from what I've heard from you, but also what I've seen online and stuff. Yeah, I don't really have a desire to you know, I might put it on next week if I'm around, but I'm not going to be like, oh, I gotta go watch this. Still, if I'd come back from yeah, you know I got home last night I'm like everybody's talking about how great it was on us.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'd be excited, I gotta go watch this I just think there's got to be some changes to the product, like I think I think is definitely which. I've said this with Liv also PGA, we can't copy anything of Liv, but then that's kind of basically what they did. That's what they did this whole team golf thing. I think there is a way to make that work. But kind of like we've said at 4U Golf, let's push the entertainment side, let's push the fun side more than you just necessarily push all of the golf side. And this was an area where the PGA really could have picked after the younger crowd even more by going for the entertainment factor more than the golf factor.
Speaker 2:That's what I thought their purpose was.
Speaker 1:I was hoping, and it just didn't feel like that so far, so I will tune in again next week.
Speaker 2:That's what I was going to ask you. Are you giving it another shot?
Speaker 1:I will tune in again next week because I want to see if they actually make any changes, because there's been a few of the big podcasts, slash youtube community, that there's one group that I'm like all right, if you put any money towards them, they'll say whatever you want. So they were talking about you know tweeting. How great it was. You know they're on x saying it's this, it's that, and I'm like listen, guys, I watched the same thing you did.
Speaker 2:you must have gotten a different experience, because it wasn't that so well, you made the comment a minute ago that you know the um, the, the broadcast part can get better, because it's getting better like over time. But I don't think PGA broadcasts are very good.
Speaker 1:So again, I think PGA broadcasts have gotten a lot better, even even now, um they're showing shots quicker. You've got better, on course, personality.
Speaker 2:I get that. I guess I'm more of um more the announcers type. They're just still really monotone on most.
Speaker 1:There's no excitement, there's no yeah well, and I mean, that's kind of how that style of golf like true tournament golf is is gonna be a little more because it's a very quiet focus.
Speaker 2:This needs get a wwe commentator.
Speaker 1:So this is again we went to that show last week and the guy's name is Justin Roberts. He is the emcee for AEW. That man has energy for days and he is just. He knows how to work a mic and work a crowd, names and everything, and it literally felt like you were in a high school gym and your PE coach was calling out who's coming out. It had no good factor to it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to check it out and see if they make changes.
Speaker 1:They included some people in it, some YouTube guys. I think Roger Steele is one of them. They included him in it. I'm like he doesn't fit. If you really wanted to pull in the content creator side of things and you pull in the YouTube boom of golf, do it, but have them involved. Where you're seeing them, it's like, oh, I want to watch because this guy I watch on YouTube is there.
Speaker 2:Not that he's in the background somewhere. You said Tiger and Roy kind of created this. Yeah, are they just older now? They don't get the younger generation. They don't know how to do it themselves.
Speaker 1:I think where, basically, it's partnered with the PGA. Pga has too much input.
Speaker 1:Okay that makes sense PGA is not good right now. I mean which sorry? One real quick thing on golf before we switch back over, because I want to talk about the Kentucky-Georgia game that you went to last night. The PGA the ownership group of the PGA. Now, because PGA this past year got bought out by a different ownership group of the PGA. Now, because PGA this past year got bought out by a different ownership.
Speaker 1:I feel like I keep hearing they are, they are now a privately owned entity instead of, you know, being public. Not, I think that. Not not for profit at one point. I don't know how that works, but they are seriously looking at revamping the playoffs for the PGA tour golf season, which I'm actually excited about, and even throwing out what me and you talked about match play. Oh, that'd be awesome when they're and even if they don't do like true match play and it's still stroke, but basically having it like you are against this guy or that a couple of guys, yes, Basically, you are against these other three, yes, yes, so they're discussing that and I'm like, all right, if you do that, I think that will get more people on board.
Speaker 2:It would help a lot.
Speaker 1:It's figuring out if some lower name guys that aren't really as known beat some guys, If you get some upsets and they get to the finals and it's like all right, I don't want to watch these guys because I don't know. I'll watch it because I know a lot of these guys at this pretty closely.
Speaker 2:Won't that become like college football bracket, march Madness bracket? It will, if they'll stick with it. It'll be the thing, the Cinderella story Correct.
Speaker 1:Well, these guys are going to make a name for themselves and so for them they're thinking man, not only am I going to potentially win a lot of money, win the PGA playoffs, this is going to open up sponsorship opportunities like crazy. So yeah, I mean, I think it's good, I think it would make it way more fun, it would make the playoffs more interesting because, you know, Scottie technically barely won this last one, but he didn't have to try very hard, he had a 10-stroke lead over most of the field to start.
Speaker 2:I won't go back to this a whole lot because we mentioned it earlier and I know you hate it again, but NASCAR kind of done that bracket style, yeah, and it's definitely made it entertaining. Now the drivers themselves don't love it because they feel like the best driver doesn't always win Every year. The best basketball team doesn't always win.
Speaker 1:Well, but I mean, I think it's that way. Any tournament, the best team doesn't always win. The team that we would look back and say oh, that's by far the best team.
Speaker 2:they don't always win, yeah so I think that could happen in golf as well. And will the golfers, will the PGA guys be okay with the best one, necessarily.
Speaker 1:Most of the guys so far sound like they're on board because they want a better product. They just want to be more fun for the fans, because every one of them will say it Again. A lot of the guys are like oh, we're not really in it for the money. It's easy to say when there's that much money being moved around, but because there's, money moving around like that the the purse at the end of that isn't a huge deal for most of the guys.
Speaker 1:Like scotty, winning that additional 20 million meant nothing for him well scotty he had 160 already recently said I don't do it for the money and a lot of them say that and you know, even a lot of the live guys before they got those big, big checks went over there. Well, it's not really about the money. Obviously it was because you took 188 dollars.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, that's different but I do think a lot of the guys are just like we just want it to be a better product. Because even even scotty was he's been against the way they do the playoff the past couple years.
Speaker 2:He's like it doesn't make sense for us to do it this way, like it's not fun well, if you don't revamp some stuff, you're not going to get the younger generation and eventually your viewership is going to keep going down and the current way is really hard to understand.
Speaker 1:Oh, it is, I don't understand it. So you have these two prior playoffs to get you into. It's a top 125, then a top 75, then a top 35. But then, when you get to the top 35, number one has a 10-stroke lead on like half the field. It's like, well, okay, well, they can't like it's, what are they even here for at that?
Speaker 2:point the, you know bottom guy has no shot even the second place guy.
Speaker 1:He's already a two stroke disadvantage, like it's like 10 and 8, it's like all right.
Speaker 2:Well, again, that makes no sense yeah no, if you're the best, go win it. Good luck go. Let's make a committee like college football.
Speaker 1:Let's them out Well so the ownership group that has it now they basically have a committee that works for them, that they are looking at all options and match play is actually one. They specifically said that is an option being looked at.
Speaker 2:Here's what I think we should do.
Speaker 1:I think we get the college football committee to rank the golfers and the golfer committee to rank college football committee didn't do a very good job in their rankings well, maybe they'll do better with golfers, you don't know I, I don't know, I think I I do want to see it change. I think it'd be way more fun, because golf is very confusing as it is. It's hard to follow. I agree with as far as the points, the every like I never know when somebody's playing and when they're not.
Speaker 2:It's a mess.
Speaker 1:so they need and again, I've said this for a long time, whether it's ESPN or it's NBC, I don't care who gets it put golf on one channel this whole you've got to go through four different channels depending on what time it is, depending on what date. If you want people to find your product, put it where it's easy, and it's not easy right now.
Speaker 1:So I think that's another thing, but too many people want hands in the pot money. It's unfortunate the way that it is, but it's unfortunate the way that it is. Yeah, but yeah. So that was a little more in-depth than I wanted to go. That's all right. Going to back to where y'all went yesterday you guys went to the Georgia-UK game at Georgia. You've been to two basketball games this year.
Speaker 2:We went to Clemson for Kentucky and you've yet to get to see them at home.
Speaker 1:Yep Like, is that the goal by the end of the year? Do you want to see them at?
Speaker 2:home. I don't know if we'll get to, because it's a little harder, or are they?
Speaker 1:allowing you to come to anymore? I don't know, because they've not won, since you guys have won.
Speaker 2:Listen, it is miserable being at the road team's place Cheering for the away team. Yeah. And then you get to tell everybody hey, we come to COVID.
Speaker 1:Oh 100%.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's tough and we went to Clemson earlier this year. They lost that game. I was hesitant to go to another game, but they did go on and lose to Ohio State earlier this year. So I thought, okay, maybe it's not us Right, go to Georgia. It was a very similar game to Clemson. A lot of people complained about the refs. I don't like to make excuses for my teams, but the refs played a big part and not going to get into all that, whatever there were some flops Meaning bad foul calls.
Speaker 2:Or what did the refs do that you felt was kind of the issue? Well, they fell for all of.
Speaker 1:Georgia's flops. That's a whole different part of the game.
Speaker 2:Georgia could basically run you over and if Kentucky touched them it was a foul, okay, and Georgia would not get a foul called. So it was a lot of that. Now, kentucky was not physical at all. If they played more physical it might have helped Two minutes to go in the game. Georgia had shot 33 free throws. Kentucky had shot nine. That's a big difference.
Speaker 1:That's a big difference.
Speaker 2:That's a big difference. They started calling some ticky-tack fouls at the last two minutes of the game, I think, to make their numbers look better or whatever. But regardless, they still could have won that game. But what I did notice sitting there in person, because you see all the different things going on I think they went and reviewed eight different plays throughout the game. That's too much. That makes the game slow. That makes the game slow. It drug out forever and you couldn't get any flow. And that's where, again, I don't want to make excuses because they still could have played better, but it is hard for any team to get in a rhythm.
Speaker 1:Don't want to make excuses while I make several excuses.
Speaker 2:No but I'm serious because you can still win through that. Oh yes, I agree, but it really does mess with the flow when you're stopping every few seconds to review something or call on this foul. They ended up losing by like 13, 14, somewhere in that range. Yeah, it was closer, and then they kind of kept trying to get back in the game, obviously the last two minutes.
Speaker 1:Were they behind the entirety? Again, this wasn't a game that I ended up watching. Oh, pretty much. It was Kentucky-Georgia. I know we talked about it yesterday before you left. I didn't expect it to be a game.
Speaker 2:I thought Kentucky would just go in there and just run through and be done. Kentucky is struggling with physicality.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Now, with that said, Mark Bolt took over this year had no players. That's a brand new team so they're doing way better than anybody ever expected.
Speaker 1:I mean they were a top ten ranked team before last night's loss.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were six last night. They fought themselves up a ton, they'll probably drop to what 12, 13.
Speaker 1:I mean, they were six last night they fought themselves up a ton. They'll probably drop to what 12, 13. I mean they beat Gonzaga.
Speaker 2:They beat Duke, they beat Florida the other day.
Speaker 1:Well, here's the question though the SEC has a lot of top-ranked basketball teams, Is the SEC basketball going to be just like SEC?
Speaker 2:football. I think so Because you saw Tennessee go to Florida.
Speaker 1:Well, kentucky beat Florida the other day. Gave Florida their first loss.
Speaker 2:That game was 106-100, by the way.
Speaker 1:Correct. Well then, florida and Tennessee played what last night?
Speaker 2:And it was like 70-something to 40-something.
Speaker 1:Tennessee was the number one team, number one undefeated team got beat by 30. And only scored 40-something points, and it was just unbelievable.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's going to be this way. Every conference with the SEC. Clearly and just like me being at Georgia, I kind of saw this the away team is going to struggle there's home team advantage big time this year, for whatever reason, and I think that's what you saw in Florida, I think, the fan bases, those are all rowdy fan bases. They are, you look at.
Speaker 1:Tennessee you look at, kentucky you look at.
Speaker 2:Florida Georgia fans were so annoying I almost said that.
Speaker 1:You know Georgia basketball not really a now again. They've only lost like two or three games all year. Not really played anybody, but they've only lost a couple of games. So maybe they're a little bit more proud of their team this year. But typically that's not crazy.
Speaker 2:They just lost in football, so you've got to Nothing else to do. They literally just got put out of the playoff in football. Okay, now Kentucky's coming into town, so it was packed. It was A lot of Kentucky blue there.
Speaker 1:I've never been to that arena. Is that a big arena? Small arena? No, no, no.
Speaker 2:I think I read it holds like 1,000 more. In Clemson it's like 10,000. Okay, so not very big. No, not very big.
Speaker 1:Well, in terms of arena sorry, because some of those are 50,000. I mean, they're huge, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, like Rupp Arena, tennessee's Arena, they hold around 20. So it's half the size of those. Okay, but what I did notice in person is how much and it doesn't matter what team you're for how much the officials can affect a game just by all the things they do and stoppage and the way they call it.
Speaker 1:It's a little harder on TV because they just go to commercial break, yeah, like you're constantly going to commercial. So it's a little different in person when you have nothing to separate it, it's just you're sitting there watching what's going on. It definitely can, and I feel I sometimes I feel that way. Even with TV timeouts you get, depending on how the flow of the game goes, the under 12, the under 8, under 4, however they do it If the game was flowing good and you got all that time going off and then there's a dead ball and it happens and you get a couple of fouls or a review, and they go, and then there's an under 4, it's like we're dragging this out.
Speaker 2:Being there in person, those tv timeouts feel much longer. Oh, absolutely, for whatever reason, it feels like you're forever waiting for the game at home.
Speaker 1:When you get those tv timeouts, it's commercial, you get up you go do something you flip it to another channel, you do whatever there you're, just you're sitting there watching I do think you're gonna see um home fielded or home court advantage.
Speaker 2:I guess basketball field or whatever, right I don't know if, if the referees kind of get in that atmosphere and it's like you said, it's kind of rowdy and they're cheering for the home team, and if you kind of get in this rhythm, if it plays a part on the officials or not.
Speaker 1:I mean typically like a good official. I don't think that's the case like good officials they just go out there and do their job.
Speaker 2:It shouldn't be. I don't know if there's any good officials there last night.
Speaker 1:Well, I think there's too many things left up to. In every sport, but definitely in basketball, there's so much interpretation. It's like, well, this official, they allow a lot of physicality. This official, he calls a lot of really small stuff.
Speaker 2:From game to game, keeping up with that like a hate and you never know until the game starts. They have to get more uniform.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you don't know until you're halfway through. No, I agree with that because they'll just randomly start changing foul calls. It's like all right, well, why that?
Speaker 2:and again seeing that person. That really bothers me, that you don't know what they're going to call, how they, how they're going to call it. Are they going to call it the same on this end and that end? Half to half? Is it going to be the same?
Speaker 1:So like when I was coaching at the local high school here, we knew, going into it, we didn't have the highest quality of officials. Like it's small 2A level high school basketball. Like you're not getting NBA-worthy officials. So, like you know, these are a lot of local people and they can just be consistent. Oh, you're not going to get that. I mean they're that's all I want. Half of them need to get new prescriptions. I mean it's pretty rough but you get, you know. Then we took our team one of the years over to a UNC Asheville game and you know, watching the officials and they were fantastic. Like they just, they were consistent. They made fairly decent calls. Like you're always going to miss calls, you know whether it's positioning, whatever it may be, but this you know, the high school level. Like they miss everything, like they just, or they'll call something and then miss something. It's just, it's really inconsistent.
Speaker 2:But at that level level we should have way more consistency. Yeah, you shouldn't get at that level. Um, I don't know where the officials get training or whatever how they get it, but it's got to be more consistent. They they play too many parts in games, I think more than people realize, because, yeah, you can say again, you can say they didn't lose because officials. But the officials can really dictate the flow of the game and if guys are sitting with two fouls, four fouls, whatever's going on. So that was what it was. I enjoyed going. I'll go back some to Georgia if they go to Georgia again.
Speaker 1:I was going to say until they ask you not to, because they haven't won yet.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know. That's why I thought about going up to Tennessee, but I'm like I don't know.
Speaker 1:That's an expensive ticket, I'm sure oh it is. It is going to be expensive Kentucky, tennessee, because that's going to be a good game. I expect it to be a good game.
Speaker 2:What I did, though I kind of compared the arenas though. Okay, so in a unique way, beginning I thought and I'm talking about clemson's and georgia's yeah, both parking was fairly easy, georgia was a little bit harder, I thought it was going to be a lot harder, and we finally got in somewhere and it was kind of quick. It was kind of last minute getting in there, uh. But what I would say, clemson, done it. Their arena is very good with you. Never really stood in lines anywhere, and I'm talking bathroom concessions. It didn't matter where I went, never really had a line and it was pretty full. So do you, do you?
Speaker 2:feel that it's just maybe there's more concession stand more I don't know what it is, I'm not sure, so how?
Speaker 1:old. I don't know how old georgia's current arena is, because I have no little john at clemson. It was redone. Was it five, six, seven? It's been redone in the last 10 years so so it's fairly new.
Speaker 2:Little John had a lot more room in the concourse for concession lines and just all these different areas. Yeah, I would say the bathrooms even were probably spread out more.
Speaker 1:You can't argue that one school has more money than the other. We're talking Clemson and Georgia. We're talking two huge athletic programs.
Speaker 2:So at Georgia's I ended up we didn't get any snacks because there were so long lines.
Speaker 1:you never would have been able to Bathrooms like you didn't go to the bathroom until it's hard to go to a game and not have something. Yeah, but that's what we did because it was just too difficult. Yeah Well, you don't want to miss the game. Like you came to watch the game, like you don't want to miss it. And you know, halftime is crazy, yep.
Speaker 2:And then after the game we went outside and found UK's bus and a couple of the players came out, but they were on their bus getting out of there. So you know the Clemson game. We actually got to take pictures with the players. They all stopped and hung out with us. We took a picture with Coach.
Speaker 1:Poe. The bus is parked on the street there, though. They don't have a section there. I didn't think section there, I didn't think no, okay, so so a little different. So, arena, arena to arena. I'd rather go to clemson little john, little john's better, I don't know the name of georgia's basketball uh stegman that just sounded like you made it up. I mean, it kind of sounds like you just I don't know how to pronounce it.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's like s-t-e-g-e man or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Sorry to you, georgia fans, we're just butchering it, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it's. I like Little John, I think Little.
Speaker 1:John's a good little arena and it's really not that small, but I think it's a good place for a basketball game, so I do like it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I would go back there too. Well, that's.
Speaker 1:Heck. Right after my youngest was born, we went to Greenville for the SEC women's tournament. Yeah, I like Little John, way better than that even. Oh, I do too, and that's not that big of a place either, but Little John just set up really well. I think they did a good job designing that one.
Speaker 2:Well, and Georgia wasn't horrible and even where we were sitting we was upper level, not way up there, but there's not that many seats. It was a good view that many seats. It was a good view. You could see everything fine. Just, you know, not being able to get a snack, or taking forever getting the bathroom, things like that, that was just a little bit of a nuisance. And you would think a tuesday game at seven.
Speaker 1:You as a food guy I know that's gotta suck because like you, you like, like that's something you kind of like to. I do, to do.
Speaker 2:I mean, I mean, normally I would just get like some popcorn or something, but no, I know, but still, like you, you can still kind of rate it off of like. I will tell you after the game, because we didn't get food. We were so hungry. It's kind of getting late at night. We're traveling home. We found a Whataburger. We don't have one of those local. There's a Whataburger there. Yeah, it was Really.
Speaker 1:It was a little hours, yeah, yeah, so I just realized we even had one.
Speaker 2:That close I have. I've only ate there once or twice just traveling. I don't think I've ever had one. And so I'm hungry and, and you know, my wife and daughter, they're getting burgers and I'm like, yeah, give me that one.
Speaker 1:Right there I got a triple cheeseburger hang on, because on the you got a heart attack is what you're telling me. Listen, I'm telling you, I thought I was gonna like I've, I saw, I always saw the triple cheeseburger, like at wendy's that was always the thing that was.
Speaker 2:I've got doubles at wendy's. I've got doubles, but I've never.
Speaker 1:I've never seen somebody order one well.
Speaker 2:So looking at the menu, it looks like real thin meat. Okay, and it was. But, man, when I got it, my wife gets it out of the bag and she's like, oh my gosh, I can't even hold this thing. It was heavy and I'm trying to drive down the interstate.
Speaker 1:What a burger? Are they like a smash burger or are they more of a traditional?
Speaker 2:I compared it to Sonic. God, we've talked about food a lot today. Uh no, my wife said she thought it was better than Sonic and we like Sonic burgers. So, uh, I thought maybe Sonic was a little better, but I did have a triple cheeseburger, so I can't tell you.
Speaker 1:the last one went to Sonic and didn't get breakfast.
Speaker 2:I can tell you that I've ever ate breakfast at Sonic.
Speaker 1:French toast sticks from there, fantastic.
Speaker 2:Oh, I've had French toast sticks from there, but not for breakfast.
Speaker 1:A burrito. I get, I don't't, but I don't go to something for breakfast.
Speaker 2:It's just when I go, I end up ordering breakfast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because they have it all day and I love breakfast food probably more than anything else, so like I just kind of naturally go to it I used to do the the coney footlongs chili cheese dog. Those are good yeah what's, what's the deal calling with coney like?
Speaker 2:I don't know right, I don't know what's the difference.
Speaker 1:hey, brian, this, this for you, man, yeah.
Speaker 2:What was it?
Speaker 1:last week I even said it. I was like Brian's going to tell you the yeast. Yeah, he shot us a text. It was like here's the definition.
Speaker 2:We have talked about a lot of food, but if we had more time talking about breakfast food, we would have went to Waffle House. We had to get on back road. The awful waffle, that's the best place for breakfast.
Speaker 1:So a good Waffle House is good.
Speaker 2:All right, guys, we got to go. We're going to Waffle House. It's still open.
Speaker 1:It's always open. A bad Waffle House is bad, though. Yeah, like a good one's good, a bad one's really bad. I don't feel like there's much in between. No.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know, is it bad, can it be bad?
Speaker 1:Have you seen some of the videos that come from?
Speaker 2:some of these Waffle Houses. I'm getting eggs and bacon and a waffle.
Speaker 1:I mean, come on Like people throwing chairs at people, like again, not all Waffle Houses, but a bunch of them Like you just, which is funny because my wife knows a guy that actually works for Waffle House. And when I say works for Waffle House, I mean like way, way up in Waffle House, like mean, like way, way up in Waffle House Flies a helicopter for the owner of Waffle House. You're like cool. So I'm like that's so random, I didn't know Waffle House had a helicopter.
Speaker 2:That's very weird. I mean there's a lot of Waffle House, maybe plane.
Speaker 1:No, it's helicopter. Yeah, and it's just very odd to me that I don't you don't think of a company like that at the high end.
Speaker 2:Because we don't see that, we just see the local.
Speaker 1:But then you're like, yeah, they're flying around in a helicopter and I'm like Oscar Mayer has a vehicle. Is that Waffle House's?
Speaker 2:vehicle. I'm confused. What if they got a helicopter that looks like a?
Speaker 1:waffle. How would you do that?
Speaker 2:I don't know. You're talking about the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile, which that comes through? Here all the time, all the time I saw an ad or something. They were hiring drivers. You might do pretty good there.
Speaker 1:I would not want to drive that thing. That thing's huge. Have you ever seen it?
Speaker 2:in person? I don't think so. It's like a bus, if not bigger.
Speaker 1:It's huge. So what's in there? I don't know. I've never been in it.
Speaker 2:I've just seen it from the outside, that and the Goodyear blimp are like two iconic.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's true.
Speaker 2:Goodyear blimp is like a very iconic thing they were doing something during the football games. 100th anniversary of Goodyear blimp or something has it been that long. Was it? I don't know, maybe it was 50.
Speaker 1:Now blimps have been around for a long time, which, again a blimp to me just seems like a terrible idea.
Speaker 2:It does I, which again, a blimp to me just seems like a terrible idea. It does I. Watched a video one time of a guy going on a cruise with him and and in a blimp and they were going. It was like eight hours or something. He's like he's like we don't have a bathroom in here. No, First of all, I ain't going to get a bathroom. But the thing is like the area that it's like you don't have anything.
Speaker 2:This group I watched. They had like three different operators and they would switch out every couple hours and somebody else would drive.
Speaker 1:Well, because you're basically watching paint drive, drive, fly.
Speaker 2:It's so slow. What do you call it?
Speaker 1:That's got to be flight, right? I mean, I can't imagine that being anything else.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, 100 years, I was right. Wow, Goodyear blimp does other than fly over football games and things like that, every sporting event.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I don't know, does Goodyear do events? They're such a big company.
Speaker 2:I always wonder about advertising like that though Does anybody buy Goodyear products because of that blimp, Because they spend a lot of money on that blimp or several blimps, I'm assuming, I don't know. I don't buy Goodyear because I see the blimp on football games, but maybe somebody does.
Speaker 1:But these companies spend money in marketing knowing they're going to get way more back, so maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, I know their name, maybe because of it.
Speaker 1:Here's my thing. I'll be honest with you. Usually Goodyear tires are too expensive. I'm usually buying something a little cheaper, that is true. I would love I mean listen sports podcast. I'll buy Goodyear they are much more expensive than the other so and that's the thing, like it depends on what car input, but maybe it's the value like depends on the quality of the car, like I'm not gonna put it on some cheap little crappy car you got the saying you get what you pay for.
Speaker 2:So maybe if you want quality tires, who?
Speaker 1:was it recently? Was telling us that their tire was like basically an oval. Was that will? Was it well?
Speaker 2:I think it was it may have been.
Speaker 1:We were talking about that and, man, I bought these tires and I got to get a new one, because it's basically misformed already. Yeah, that's right, because they were like rounded or something it was pretty late we were talking about that and that was hilarious.
Speaker 1:He was like my tire basically turned to an egg and I was like, of all things, that that could be. Apparently, there weren't good years. That's all I got to say. So yeah, if you want to be talked about On the podcast, tell us crazy stories, because I feel like Will's been talked about A couple weeks in a row now Because he's got some crazy stories.
Speaker 2:He just keeps telling us stuff.
Speaker 1:Don't tell us anything you don't want, told he did. Fill us in about the baseball managers. Oh, that's right, we said he would, and he, I told you know it and he definitely knows it. He's one. We'll definitely have him on the podcast.
Speaker 2:I'm still waiting for you to tell our audience what it is, why.
Speaker 1:The way he described it is that baseball was very informal and it was basically like a player coach. He said you took the oldest kid, the oldest person, the oldest, whatever, and obviously they were still playing because you didn't have all those things. But it advanced so quickly that they had to have somebody kind of be in charge. The oldest kid would kind of do a lineup, would do all the information.
Speaker 2:So he would do that and play and play.
Speaker 1:So you know again in baseball. Now I feel like you see a lot more of the pants, but they're not really wearing the top the same way they're wearing quarter zips.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm sure the top's under the quarter zip.
Speaker 1:Maybe I don't know, Some of these guys are a lot younger. These are just out of baseball for a few years and now they're taking over some teams.
Speaker 2:So it's weird seeing all these former players as managers now, which is kind of cool, yeah, but most basketball coaches don't do that anymore.
Speaker 1:Well, a lot of them have got away from it.
Speaker 2:Very few anymore do it. I'm just kidding. They don't need to wear suits because that would look odd. I don't want to see a suit in the dugout.
Speaker 1:No, a suit in the dugout would feel weird, that would feel weird Like who are you on security detail for. Because like that's what that would feel like. I mean, a lot of coaches still do some suit stuff, but to me the weirdest was seeing football coaches way back in the day and they'd be in a full suit.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's true. You see the old clips, the old?
Speaker 1:old clips and they were just dressed fully in a suit.
Speaker 2:That's how I feel baseball would feel too. It's just very out of place.
Speaker 1:Yeah because you definitely don't get that now.
Speaker 2:Because now football is way more relaxed, way more.
Speaker 1:Most of them are hoodies especially this time of year jackets or whatever it may be. But yeah, you're not getting the suits anymore, just the ownership.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we need to bring some of that to golf for sure. Some different outfits, different.
Speaker 1:You know it's called shorts, pga, that's true, they've been around forever. Like you don't mind being on shorts, I'm not playing golf, I can't put on shorts, so it just.
Speaker 2:it blows my mind still that we're, we're not allowed to wear shorts on the pga tour, but the caddy can now is that they have they've been for a few years. Does he get less tv time the caddy?
Speaker 1:so it's okay if he has it very few caddies get much tv time anyways yeah, so is that why?
Speaker 2:even your big name ones I don't know like the viewers that come there. You see all the caddies run around I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think they it's. It's. We're still very, very traditional in golf like we've got a some of the stuff is okay to change. It's okay, it really is. It's okay to change some things some people don't like uh change you. You don't like change. If it's the right, I'm all for the right changes.
Speaker 2:Very few things, but I just realized I had one thing I had to ask you about, uh-oh, because I was just looking at my notes.
Speaker 1:Anything, that's a have-to. Who knows where this could go.
Speaker 2:Did you get to sit down and watch the Georgia game, the whole game? I know you was kind of. Which Georgia, Notre Dame yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, I watched it.
Speaker 2:What about the kid that got the 15-yard penalty on the sideline? Do you feel bad for that kid? No, you made a stupid mistake. You should be there. No, I don't feel bad for him. And for those who don't know, the kid got too close to the sideline. The referee ran into him.
Speaker 1:Have you watched it again?
Speaker 2:I haven't watched it on the white.
Speaker 1:The kid was too close, he was close.
Speaker 2:Was he closer than anybody else?
Speaker 1:He was the closest. He was yeah he was the closest and unfortunately again, that happens all the time. Let's not hate on this kid, that happens a lot more. It's just typically the ref doesn't run into him. People are out that far, if not farther, sometimes, and as long as the ref doesn't run into you, they don't typically know or if you hinder their movement, but it just so happened he ran right into him.
Speaker 2:Georgia had a big play on that Correct Specific moment that got brought back 15 yards. So I think the hardest part is.
Speaker 1:it's a kid that's not even dressed, I know, and they kept putting the camera yards and so um. So I think the hardest part is it's a kid that's not even dressed, I know, and like he's just jersey putting the camera on him. They did, they did. I. I did see more of the meme pages talking about you know, there's no transfer portal for this kid because nobody's gonna take him the only footage he has is that is he still there next year?
Speaker 2:I have no idea.
Speaker 1:I mean, or does kirby smart say no the thing is like you get a lot, like there's so many of those guys that don't dress that I don't even know how much they really are involved. Yeah, like I don't, I don't know, I haven't, I haven't went like researched it, like the kid's not that important to where it was such a they weren't gonna win the game. I felt sorry for the kid a little bit because the and honestly the biggest thing that came out of that game was, you know, running the 11 people off on the whole punt thing.
Speaker 2:That's been the biggest thing that came out of it. Is that legal or not?
Speaker 1:So Kirby Smart claims the SEC tells him he can't do that. I didn't go look it up within the rules. To me it feels odd that that's legal. It is, but if you never. To run 11 off feels weird because there's so many rules with, you know, too many people in the huddle or illegal substitutions, so that to me feels like it should fall somewhere under there. I've not read the rules to really know.
Speaker 2:I feel like there's a point that somebody said, because they never actually lined up over the ball, that they're able to substitute. But I feel like there's a point that once you're kind of starting to get in formation, alright, you can't sub now Almost like once you're committed. It's kind of Now what I feel like Georgia should have done. They should have drugged their feet subbing Because now they are allowed to sub, and they should have made them take a delay of game.
Speaker 1:Well, so here's the thing. There's rules on that too. Some of the refs allow basically as much time as those guys want, like they let them jog, like, walk off and bring new people in. From one of the I can't remember which game it was that happened and they called 12 in on the field. They're basically allowed like three seconds.
Speaker 2:I think I get more than that.
Speaker 1:It's not like a lot of these refs really drag it out Like one of the rules officials. It's like three to five seconds You're supposed to sprint off.
Speaker 2:You have to give more than that, because when they bring somebody in the offense, brings somebody in as the defensive side, you have to see okay, who was that, what formation? Okay, what do I need to bring in? Now I've got to get my guys in, so it takes time.
Speaker 1:So it's not three seconds from when the guy left, because it's basically three seconds from when the ref recognizes there's a sub, he runs up to stop it. Then they would start it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you've got to give time for your guy to run off, but also the defensive side to figure out, okay, who's going in, and especially if you're asking them to bring 11 in, it's not the player's job. No, I agree with that.
Speaker 1:Coaches are watching who's coming in and out. You know what needs to be in there, so you send them, but not 11. That's where 11 feels weird. That's when it feels like it has to be against something.
Speaker 2:That's a hard way to do it. I don't know if it's illegal, but it should be. I don't like it. Yeah, I don't know that that took Georgia's last chance of trying to come back. I don't know if they were going to win anyways it gives vibes of the Oregon-Ohio State game early in the year.
Speaker 1:12 men. It kind of gives that yes, right, Like we don't exactly know what to do with it, but it feels odd, it's odd yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure. No, defensive coach has a package that I'm going to bring in 11 new guys at once.
Speaker 1:No, because typically on defense. They throw a package. You may pull three guys at max.
Speaker 2:Most of the guys are on the field. So what they did, though they had what punt team out, ran punt team off and offense back on. Yes, so I guess you quickly could just run your defense out and run, you know, but at that point isn't your defense sitting over on the bench with their helmet's off.
Speaker 1:I would say you may have guys that are over. You never know. Because that's the thing if there's a penalty, there's kind of that delay, there's time for those guys like, hey, we're back out there. It's a little different. So I don't like it. I don't think Georgia was going to win. I don't think it changed that?
Speaker 2:No, I don't think it made a difference.
Speaker 1:But I do think it questionable. Definitely, I agree, I don't like it and I don't know if there's anything like what kirby said. You know, sec, tell him he can't do that they had. You know, they've tried it, you know. Whatever, I don't know about all that, but I am curious to see where that goes, because I tried to look it up always always in the summer you get those. Well, here's gonna be the rule changes for next year.
Speaker 1:I have a feeling we're gonna see a few because we've had some weird stuff happen this year that I think we see a few and please, whatever committee, does this? Fix the targeting stuff, like the calls for targeting, are so bad.
Speaker 2:So I thought in the Texas game they could have called some offensive targeting and they didn't. They never do, that's never called Actually. So there was one on Texas, even on defense, at the end I think that they didn't. They never do, that's never called um actually. So there was one on uh on texas, even on defense, at the end I think that they didn't call. That was clearly, I thought, targeting by, by the rule book but that's the thing.
Speaker 1:Like offensively, like you can lower your head, you can do whatever you want. There's no such thing as offensive targeting, which I think is so stupid.
Speaker 2:When I did play football, I was a defensive player, mostly right. And when an offensive player comes to you and gets low, you are taught to try to get lower than them. That's your leverage, right? Well, when they're that low and you go low, you're going to hit helmets, correct, but it's them that's causing it, correct. So what are you supposed to do?
Speaker 1:So my thing is a lot of these guys now tackle with their head down. So that's part of the issue. That, like tackling will say incorrectly what most people were taught growing up. But yeah, if you have committed to go into a tackle and that guy then lowers his head into you, why are you getting called for it? So that, like again, I'm not saying I want more reviews, more of any of that stuff, but they're not reviewing it there. Anyways, it's sent off to be reviewed elsewhere. So let those guys review everything they want. Let them do it Like if at that point you deemed that the offensive player caused it, no penalty, just play on Whatever.
Speaker 1:I'm fine with that. But I hate, like for Arizona State. Their best defensive player didn't play the first half Because he got one in the conference championship game. He's sitting for two and a half weeks. At this point he made a huge play that caused the safety, yeah, there, and that was like his first play of the half or first play the game, because he didn't get played the second half. So I don't like the the ejected for the rest of this game plus the next game of the second half. I don't like that.
Speaker 2:I get it. You can't be two minutes left in the fourth quarter and guys just start taking everybody out.
Speaker 1:No, but at that point you can tell. You can tell the difference.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so too, when it's Is this a basketball turns one flagrant, two type stuff.
Speaker 1:I would almost rather have that Kind of like the way face mask used to be you had the unintentional and the you know the intentional five or 15, like with the targeting. Even if you want to say targeting, you're immediately ejected. There's, you know, last play of the game. You're ejected Still sucks, you know, maybe if you have so many, then you get something.
Speaker 2:I can see that.
Speaker 1:But for you to say, well, this is the last play of the game. You get a targeting, you're out the first half of the next game. That's a huge, huge thing. For again, if the offensive player caused it and the defense guys get called for it, I just think it's too big of a mess. So I would love to see some clarification. There and again, the refs each call it different.
Speaker 2:See, you just told us something you hate. You do not like targeting, see, I told you. So I do want to ask you on the 11 coming in and out. Yeah, I know, we don't know this. Real I don't like it Are you okay with it.
Speaker 1:I feel like either there needs to be a way that it's allowed or a way that there's not, it just feels like it's in between yeah, yeah, it just feels too gray like in between the rules. Again, I think there'll be something coming out to clarify.
Speaker 2:I think over the summer. But do you like it? Are you okay with it? Because there's not a rule that we know of.
Speaker 1:So that's the thing. If it's within the rules right now, I don't mind it. Okay, I mean like it's weird to me, but if it's within the rules.
Speaker 2:it's within the rules. Yeah, I got you Like every team.
Speaker 1:I mean that's part of coaching in sports. It is You're always trying to find, you're not trying to cheat. You're not trying to do that, but himself said we have sets for it, we can do that, but the SEC told us we couldn't. So that's where it's like oh okay. He was saying I could do that too, like I'm ready to do it, we've practiced it. But the SEC said hey, you're not allowed to do that.
Speaker 2:I wonder if that comes into we're in a conference? They're not. We have conference rules.
Speaker 1:See, that's the thing is like the conference is not going to do more strict rules than the refs, so it's like, yeah, so that's kind of weird to me. Yep, yeah, but those games will happen this week, so we'll definitely touch base on the championship next week. Obviously, I'm going to pick up on tgl again next week.
Speaker 2:That's uh yeah, I'm looking to see what happens.
Speaker 1:Second update on that, just yeah I'll give it, but it's gotta, it's gotta make some changes. If they'll listen to some people and and try some changes, I can get behind it, but we gotta see some changes. Yeah, um, but no, I mean, I I think that that's kind of it for me. For the for the evening, yeah, I'm good, unless we want to talk about some more food, but I'm just really hungry.
Speaker 2:I want to go eat.
Speaker 1:I am starting to get really hungry, so I'm going to go home and eat dinner at this point, um, but again yeah, I know it's it's too late for dinner, but you know what I mean. Yeah, I feel like I don't. More web season. I think that's right folks.