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Bites, Baskets, and Back Nine Banter
Can bacon really outshine ham, or is it all about the yeast in those dinner rolls? Join us as we humorously debate holiday indulgences and culinary delights while introducing our new producer, Brian, who's already making waves on social media. As we march into the new year, we invite you to be part of our vibrant online community, sharing your own holiday foodie adventures and resolutions that might involve a little less feasting and a bit more balance.
Ever tried frog legs or gator sausage? Our conversation takes a wild turn as we recount our daring dining experiences, sparking laughter over the simpler joys of dino nuggets and the adventurous prospect of chocolate-covered crickets. From Nashville's Longhorn steakhouse to nostalgic visits at Fazoli's, our culinary journey is as varied as our preferences. The tipping debate gets heated as we question whether the current system truly benefits service workers or if a shift to fixed wages might serve them better, comparing practices across the globe for a fresh perspective on fairness and transparency.
Sports fans, rejoice! From the complexities of NIL agreements in college sports to the charm of minor league baseball, we tackle the evolving landscape with passion and insight. Our episode is packed with intriguing discussions on SEC basketball rivalries, youth team coaching challenges, and even a generational tee box controversy at the PNC Championship. Golf enthusiasts won't want to miss our exploration of modern technologies like Toptracer, enhancing both community events and personal play. Whether it's about crafting the perfect swing or munching on a legendary burger, our show promises a blend of humor, camaraderie, and shared experiences that both sports fans and casual listeners will enjoy.
welcome back everybody to not amused Back here with Tyler and David For all of your nonsense. Well, I guess a little bit of sports sprinkled in.
Speaker 2:Yep, hello everyone. Nonsense is probably the best word to explain what we do.
Speaker 1:Listen, we're just getting started, but I'll tell you this We've been recording for about 25 minutes prior to us getting going. Nobody needs to hear that stuff. No, that goes in the archives for no one, because it's a mess. At one point David's crying and then he hacked up a lung Dying. Yeah, it's been eventful to just get the night going. Yeah, got to pull it back together now, but I hope everybody had a Merry Christmas. We are now right here at new year's, so happy new year's everyone. Happy new year.
Speaker 1:2025 came really really quickly get all of your new year's resolutions ready to go don't start I hate, don't start there it's such a great excuse to fail like it's not a great excuse to fail. Well, because that's that's everybody like I'm gonna get in shape this year and you're really good for like three weeks. And then the ones that are crazy is like in November.
Speaker 2:They're like my New Year's resolution. Is it what you want to do that? Just go ahead and start at Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1:I'm already deciding. My New Year's resolution is I'm going to get fat right now and then on January 1st I'm going to change. You got to get through the holidays. Now I will say you eat during the holidays.
Speaker 2:Oh, I mean Thanksgiving, christmas, like those are both some feasts. I have eight more than I need to for sure.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah but and a lot of ham, and I love ham but I do feel like I've had a lot of ham this year, More more than typical.
Speaker 2:It's because every time you have any kind of holiday function, like you have different groups and different things, you're doing night and we get christmas it's like there's a ham for everyone well.
Speaker 1:So we had the ham with you guys on thanksgiving. Pretty good size ham that was big ham. And then we we did kind of our own little christmas a few days prior, and then mom and dad on christmas did a ham and they did a big ham and there's really only like four of us eating it. So I mean it was, it was a lot of ham, a lot of ham I do like, I like him but I do like him ham or bacon, like I mean it's same meat, but like what?
Speaker 1:which one do I like better?
Speaker 2:yeah, which ham yeah? Ham sandwich or just ham by itself ham by itself, if it's a good ham, oh, just yeah, I like it's beef jerky but like ham on, like some good rolls, like that's that's good you're ruining with bread.
Speaker 1:I think I just make it better with bread.
Speaker 2:No, putting a lot of yeast on the ham. I don't need that. Yeast that's what I'm worried about is the yeast.
Speaker 1:I know right, not the grains, not the nothing, it's just the yeast.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know like you.
Speaker 2:You made fun of me saying yeast, yes, but like why?
Speaker 1:because we're talking about a roll, I wouldn't naturally just go to yeast hey, ain't the rolls called yeast rolls. There are some there used yeah, so what's the?
Speaker 1:yeast. I mean, I know, like in dough they put a little bit of yeast to help it rise. I just don't exactly. I don't either um, messing up my ham. I know that well. So, real quick, we did kind of bring somebody in. We kind of have a producer now, um, maybe he'll look at yeast for us. Maybe, like, I need to text him be like, hey, I need to know what yeast what is yeast?
Speaker 2:just give give me an answer and I don't be like what are y'all talking about?
Speaker 1:yeah, he's gonna, he's gonna be very, very confused. I mean's going to know immediately that he should probably look it up and he'll probably have fun with this, and this will somehow make it to a sound clip or something, because we're not smart enough to know what yeast is.
Speaker 2:No, but he will be helping us out a ton with social media and stuff.
Speaker 1:So when you see no, no, and I didn't really ask him like can I shout him out on here by name? So I'm not going to yet. Well, we did last time about the Christmas stuff I just don't remember using his name.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we said all their names when they helped us with the Christmas. That's right, I do remember that. I do remember that.
Speaker 1:So yeah, shout out Brian.
Speaker 2:Brian is now doing a ton of behind the scenes stuff for us, and for it because, literally, we talked to him about it a few days ago and it's like he already had ideas, jumped on it and was like just going and it's awesome, so we're super excited to have brian on board.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, so check out our social media producer or whatever I mean he's. He's been doing a lot of stuff that's way way more helpful than he'll ever know. Yeah, so super happy to have him. Um, yeah, so, like I said, he's already posted some podcast or some social media stuff and really really getting us going. So, yeah, yeah, so go on there interact, um you know. Leave your thoughts, comments, I mean obviously anything with podcast, social media, like it, rate it, comment, you know all that stuff.
Speaker 2:It just helps, yeah, helps push it out there, go to your spotify or apple podcast and do like the automatic download that way, even if you don't listen, yeah, every week. I mean I know mine sets up when we we posted, it automatically sends my phone just like just trying to check sound you don't have to listen, just at least download right, listen, just put it on in the background with the volume all the way down and play it all the way through. Yeah, and that really helps us out there.
Speaker 1:So you've never listened to a word, but you've had all of them playing in the background.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So when we come asked, we're like have you listened to our podcast?
Speaker 1:Yeah, everyone, all of them, never missed a show. What did you?
Speaker 2:think about that one. Yeah, uh-huh, I completely agree with your ideas on that.
Speaker 1:Well, we kind of had an argument over that, but I completely agree. Who are you siding with Yep?
Speaker 2:That's my answer. I don't really have much to say, okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, so a few days ago I'd kind of mentioned this to you. I'd been listening to this podcast and one of the Listen.
Speaker 2:The weird thing is, the only thing I know about this is something about eating ant eaters.
Speaker 1:No, it's not. That's what stuck to my mind. Okay, so let me explain that. So I was listening to a podcast. This guy he lived in the Amazon in Peru for many years like 20 years, something like that and he was talking about some of the guys on the podcast asked him what's one of the weirder meats that you've eaten?
Speaker 2:And ant eater was one of those that he said how awful it tastes. But the comment you said that stuck to me is he said an anteater tastes like, you would think, an anteater tastes like what he said that, and to me that means nothing.
Speaker 1:All right, that's just, I have no I have no thought of what an anteater tastes like no um but I don't taste like chicken for all of you that want to know. Apparently he said it tastes very bitter. I don't know. I don't know that I've had a bitter meat.
Speaker 2:I've never had a desire, I've never like. The only time I've seen an anteater Is probably at the zoo or something I said do you go to the zoo?
Speaker 1:And you're like I'd like to eat that one. I don't know what that one tastes like.
Speaker 2:But here's the thing. What about the?
Speaker 1:tigers. You know, next time we go that's going to be something you think about Every animal will see it.
Speaker 2:You're going to look.
Speaker 1:I wonder how that tastes, man, those flamingos right there. I know the flamingos smell so bad. They do. Maybe they taste good. Which zoo was it we went to? They have the flamingos right up front and the smell just immediately.
Speaker 2:I don't remember, was it Atlanta?
Speaker 1:I don't remember, was it Atlanta, cincinnati? It wasn't Cincinnati because we went there this past summer.
Speaker 2:I think it had to be like it was either Greenville or somewhere, but it's like you walk through.
Speaker 1:first thing is flamingos and the smell is just awful. Okay, so that kind of back to it. Sorry, we're a little all over. My question is what is the weirdest or most exotic food of any kind, whether it's meat, whether it's food, whatever that you have eaten, that I've eaten? Yeah, because I mean, obviously I don't get too carried away, we know me, I eat like a child, I'm rather picky, so I don't have too many really exotic things I'm not.
Speaker 2:There's two that come to mind that I can think of. One was I think I tried frog legs once.
Speaker 1:So that to me doesn't feel very exotic, though, because like I sit there and think I've had frog legs Frog legs are good Like frog legs taste like chicken.
Speaker 2:I tried them once, it was a little sweeter, but to me I like them. It was actually dinner. We had a restaurant there. They had some, and so I think I tried them that night. Um other than that, when I was in new orleans I got some kind of sausage dog on a stick that was made of gator alligator, so that's the only two that come by.
Speaker 1:That's the thing about. That is like anyone from louisiana or that lives there.
Speaker 2:They're like oh yeah that's tuesday I mean we have gator every two, like that's not a very. I mean, you know, growing up I had squirrel, like that's Tuesday. We have gator every Tuesday Growing up I had squirrel. A lot of people don't eat that I would say that's probably a little more than Squirrel's, more exotic than gator.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not saying it's more exotic, but I'm saying here, because we don't have really any predatorial stuff like a gator here, a weird thing is squirrel or bear, or you know that you've had that here. Yeah, um, because deer, I mean, if you've lived anywhere towards the south, you at one point tried venison or deer jerky.
Speaker 2:I'm not much of a hunter, but when I was a teenager we'd squirrel hunt some and, uh, mom would actually cook the squirrel, yeah, yeah well, that's.
Speaker 1:That's been a big thing here forever like rabbit squirrel yeah, stuff that which I don't really care for that kind of stuff very much.
Speaker 2:So I guess I don't really have anything. What would be yours?
Speaker 1:then, oh see again, I eat like a child. I'm very like simple foods, Dino nuggets.
Speaker 2:Dino nuggies, man Dino nuggies. Sorry Because.
Speaker 1:I can sit here and think of Noah him saying it. Saying it, it's just dino nuggies. You love some dino nuggies? Um no, I mean, I eat more than that, like. But as far as like crazy out there foods, most time I'm gonna look at like yeah, I'm not trying that, I don't have to try it to know I don't like it.
Speaker 2:I'm not like to. I avoid it. If I know what it is, it would be very hard for me to eat some of it. But if it didn't know, I might taste it like, oh, this is great, but but me knowing.
Speaker 1:But why do I feel like Brian has tried something?
Speaker 2:I don't know. So, brian, he likes to, when he goes to towns, go to like the little local stuff, correct and that's my thought.
Speaker 1:Maybe he's tried something.
Speaker 2:So we'll have to ask him. But for any of you listening, please let us know what's something you've tried that's either out there and it doesn't have to be a meat like if it's some kind of dish or some kind of weird fruit that we don't have here it seems like the um chocolate covered, uh like insects are trying to make a thing, these healthy yeah, I can't do it again I you go to the insects and the stuff that I watched on that podcast the other day.
Speaker 1:they had that the grasshoppers. No, it wasn't a grasshopper, it was. I really don't want to talk about it cause my wife will kill me, Okay, but yeah, it was just. Oh, I don't know how that's really a thing Like I know in other countries, like crickets and some of that stuff, like they.
Speaker 2:So yesterday I had a steak that at one point I thought might move on me, as pink as it was.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we made a trip, starting yesterday morning, to Nashville, tennessee. We went to Franklin, tennessee, just south of Nashville, so from where we're at about six hours.
Speaker 2:Right on six Because we can't go through 40.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a little longer right now, with 40 still being closed from hurricanes. So on the way back it's already been a long day. We went and picked up some equipment for 4U Golf and we're like, all right, we're just going to stop and eat somewhere. Good, but you picked Longhorn.
Speaker 2:I did. I'm proud of you. I'm without Fazoli's, but it wasn't close. We were going to go to Fazoli's but we had to go past Nashville to the north For those that don't know, because there's no Fazoli's around here. There's not Fazoli's is great. If you find a Fazoli's somewhere, it's pasta I never had.
Speaker 1:Fazoli's until I moved to Kentucky when I was in college.
Speaker 2:That's great.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I want to say the first time I went was with you guys. Yeah.
Speaker 1:After I met Amanda Probably. So yeah, we went to Fazoli. Like don't get me wrong, I'm not going to sit here and say it's like high quality food, no, but it's like fast. It's not fast food, but it's.
Speaker 2:It's a little better than fast food. It's like fast casual, yeah, like it's. That's a good word for it, it's not quite like a, which even anymore.
Speaker 1:Olive Garden's not that great, but you know it just feels like it's declined some.
Speaker 2:Yeah at a register, yeah, and they bring it to you but it's pasta, it's a mixture um pizza, but in the bread, like all you can eat bread oh yeah, when you're sitting down there, when you're there, like you just keep and oh it's great. Yeah, so if you've never been to one, you've got you got.
Speaker 1:You were hating on bread earlier, like garlic. No, not garlic bread.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't hang on that, we didn't you. You said like sandwich bread and rolls.
Speaker 1:It's different. Listen, you put garlic on rolls and sandwich bread and rolls. No, I was talking about rolls.
Speaker 2:It's different.
Speaker 1:Listen, you put garlic on Rolls and sandwich bread are not the same thing. That's true. How dare you? That's true. Don't get that out.
Speaker 2:I like rolls with my steak, but not a Well, so that's the thing too.
Speaker 1:Texas Roadhouse, you get rolls Longhorn, it's that loaf bread.
Speaker 2:That loaf bread ain't cutting it. It's not horrible, but no, I'm not saying it's bad, but it's not the same like. Those rolls at longhorn are literal like clouds. I mean, there's, the best rolls I've ever had again is in kentucky, is uh shiloh steakhouse best rolls. See, I've only been to shiloh's like once. Oh my gosh, the rolls. I'll go there.
Speaker 1:But again, I was a college kid, I was poor and it wasn't super, super expensive, but it's was more expensive than what I had at the time.
Speaker 2:I haven't found anything local here with the best rolls or things like that. But no talking about Longhorn. Yeah, okay, so my steak was still good. It was way more pink than I wanted, well, so you're in the middle of it.
Speaker 1:The middle of it. The outside of your steak looked pretty good. Yeah, steak looked pretty good. Yeah, it still tasted good, my, so my steak was really good it's. When the dessert came the mac and cheese was good. Mac and cheese was good, mashed potatoes I was just okay. Yeah, it all went downhill with dessert, with dessert and listen those that know us.
Speaker 2:If you, we like dessert and tyler likes ice cream, I love ice cream that's so we got this lava cake that brings the ice cream on it. And we have a longhorn local that we've been to and it's good.
Speaker 1:I didn't realize how good our Longhorn was oh man, it's good. Like every time we've gone there, the food is just good quality.
Speaker 2:So that's what I think when you were telling me to get somewhere to eat. I think that's probably where your mind went, the Longhorn we had here. Yeah, I really do think it did. Do you want to explain?
Speaker 1:what our lava cake was. All right, so we get our lava cake. First thing, it's not lava it was ice cold. Like I mean, so don't worry, it was room temperature. First bite, I took the driest brownie I've ever had in my entire life.
Speaker 2:Well, no, the problem is it's supposed to be cake. Yes, because he referred to it as brownie. Yes, that's how bad it was he referred to it as brownie.
Speaker 1:So, david, I can see him like. He like cuts way into his and he's like the fudge didn't even come out Like it wasn't even warm enough for that to happen. No, so I'm like this is it tastes like spoiled milk. It's spoiled like it was. It was bad and I, so I took that one bite, pushed it off, then had to take another bite of the worst cake I've ever eaten just to try to get so that was the problem it was awful the cake was so dry that I just to try to get that out.
Speaker 2:So that was the problem. It was awful.
Speaker 1:The cake was so dry that I had to eat the ice cream with it, and so I was kind of mixing it, and you mentioned about the ice cream and so I started trying it and I was like, oh, I don't know if I can do this and then I couldn't eat the cake, but at first you, so I was in a dilemma. Honestly, I can't really say anything against Longhorn, because I don't even remember what town we were in. I don't either Our waitress was awful yeah.
Speaker 1:Like, looking back at it, she was super nice, but she had the most I don't care attitude of anybody I've ever met, yeah. And like at the end she was like I hope you didn't mind waiting on me, yeah. And I'm like, huh, she didn't bring anything. She took our order and another girl did everything else, yeah. And then she came back and got tip and I'm like what am I tipping you for? I just don't know what you did. And historically I mean David knows this, my wife knows this I tip pretty large. Like I feel like we're not going to get into the whole tipping culture.
Speaker 2:That's the whole thing, because I'll get you going on that, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:There's some people that have some very severe I hate the tipping process.
Speaker 2:I can see your face going. Go ahead. No, because I may not shut up on this one, I'll mute you. I don't care. I'm going to try to. This is going to be all I'll say hopefully, okay. Say hopefully, okay, we'll see. That's not. I'll get you going, don't worry. I understand that's the american process. So because of that I do tip I try to tip.
Speaker 1:Well, yes, and again, I'm not going to sit here and say you don't, because you do, but the whole process in this.
Speaker 2:I owe you so much, I'm obligated to give you so much right, especially when I walk in to a restaurant and you hand me something behind the counter and say would you like to leave a tip? I ain't even tried the food yet. They flip it around. It's like would you like to tip?
Speaker 1:Yeah, for what you said hello or or better yet like places that you almost serve yourself and it's like would you like to?
Speaker 2:tip and then you almost feel guilty if you don't tip them because it's like an obligation. So it's just the whole system is.
Speaker 1:The thing that kills me is when people are like if you can't tip, don't go out to eat then you wouldn't have a job but here, here's my, here's my thought, and again, I I usually tip well and I, because I understand the, the culture, I understand that. But pay your employees better, like the price of food has gone up immensely and that hasn't that's not talking politics, it's just private companies.
Speaker 1:Their, their prices have gone up a ton and then you still have to tip a percentage proportion and it's like how do I, how do I? Now? My bill is so much more and it's not. It's not sitting here like, well, if you can't afford to tip 20%, you shouldn't go.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Stop raising my bill and then expect me to tip even more.
Speaker 2:I would prefer if every meal at the restaurant was raised a dollar or something, right? So I know up front what I'm paying you and it's not up to me to try to come up with. Oh, how much should I pay this person?
Speaker 1:so I don't feel guilty or so they don't get mad at. I'm sure there's somebody, especially somebody that's been a waiter or waitress for quite a while. You may know how is it with labor laws. There's a minimum wage, but most of those get paid like two or three dollars an hour and then it's all tips well, I know I've heard in the past that I don't know if this is everywhere, so don't you know?
Speaker 2:come at me if I'm wrong, but I've heard in the past that if you are a waiter, waitress, they pay you that amount and then you get your tips. And if you didn't make enough and tips to make you in ways they have to make up the difference.
Speaker 1:How often do you think that actually happens, never because people feel guilty. So because I know my wife wait was a waitress for a bit in college. If you're a little small place, maybe she, she was a small place and and they didn't split tips evenly, which some places do that, which, again, I don't like that either, because if somebody did a fantastic job and they're just one of the nicest people you ever meet and they just go above and beyond and you tip a large tip, you shouldn't have split that with the 10 other people in the back. No, you shouldn't. I don't like that. I agree with that. Yeah, but again that, yeah, but yeah again. My mind just went how the heck did we get here? But, um, my wife was a waitress in college and you know she'd have some big table and they'd tip like a dollar a piece and it shouldn't be up to them to pay.
Speaker 2:It is the problem?
Speaker 1:no, no, but then. But then the thing is, it's like the owner's small little place, it's just like it didn't matter she's making like 250 an hour plus tips, and you know you've come home with ten dollars that day and it's like, well, that's that, wasn't here's my problem and and I'm gonna take heat on this okay, I know I am here, we go whatever I like when it's you taking it on me.
Speaker 2:If you are not getting paid enough to do that job that you came there and agreed to do, true, don't take the job, I agree. And if people would quit going and doing these jobs if they say, no, you're not paying me enough, I'm not getting enough of tips, then restaurant owners would have to change the way they do things. Pay them more, whatever it's.
Speaker 1:It's hard to say, though, because we have so many restaurants locally that are so bad because of that, because they can't find people to work. So then, like, like, it's just awful.
Speaker 2:Pay them more. Quit expecting me to tip them. It's not my job. If I want to give them a tip, it should be because they went above and beyond what they're supposed to do. A tip isn't a here. This is your pay.
Speaker 1:I'm now fixing your salary for you.
Speaker 2:No, it should be. You get your salary.
Speaker 1:And if I want to give you more, that's even better. Yeah, we definitely didn't mean to get off onto that topic. No, we didn't, but it drives me nuts. But I was gonna say, as soon as I mentioned the smallest piece of that, I saw david's face. I was like well, we're going there at this point before you ask.
Speaker 2:I've never worked at a job where I had to work on tips.
Speaker 1:But if, if I go to my boss and say I will work for this amount of money, I can't say nothing right if I don't like it, go find a different job right, that's the way I feel about it, see, and then again I don't know how like a bartender works like I do. They make more base and then they also get the tip, like I just don't know, because I don't know, I don't have any personal friends.
Speaker 2:Most of your waiters, waitress, bartenders, whatever they're pretty good at what they do most of the ones.
Speaker 1:I've been doing it for a considerable amount of time. Yeah, yeah, because I mean none of them are good when you first start, because it's a but, it's a skill. I mean there's a lot of hospitality to it.
Speaker 2:And I'm curious about this. I don't know the answer. If a restaurant said we're gonna up your pay to good like way over minimum wage, yeah, but you get no more tips, I bet half of them would quit because they want the tips yeah, yeah, I don't know because, again, like you said, I've never worked a job that was on tips, that I required tips to help make it.
Speaker 1:So I don't really know. But in reality you would think about it Every day. You would actually make more money, because on a day that you don't have many tables, or it's just a slow night or somebody stiffs you on a check or whatever I like, you're still gonna make more those days. So overall, wouldn't you make more money?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I feel like they do pretty good on tips, or they wouldn't do it I feel like some do, but then I feel like there's always those ones that get out of it because, like I didn't really make that much well, probably means you weren't very good exactly that's, that's the thing again it's okay to not be good at it.
Speaker 2:If that's just not for you, it's not for you. Who cares? Again, this is the system we have. I'm not taking shots at anybody that is a waiter, waitress, any of that stuff, I'll still leave tips.
Speaker 1:He is saying he hates you and he thinks you're dumb for having that job. No, I hate the system. The system we've allowed for so long that it's impossible to break it.
Speaker 2:Can we get that list for january 20th to fix that system too?
Speaker 1:oh, don't go there I'm just throwing that out there we get, we're fixing anything else. Honestly, though, at this point. I don't know that you could fix it like I. It would be such a hard switch. Aren't we the only country that does it, not the only. There's a few, there's not many, but there's not many most of them just pay, you know, a wage.
Speaker 2:That again this is going down a rabbit hole, but it goes to the whole. When you buy something in the store and you see the price, but then you've got to add tax later, right, you know a lot of countries put that in. It's already in the price, like you don't pay any like. What you see is what you pay, there's no additional, which I think I would prefer that I would too.
Speaker 1:I would like just knowing what I'm because then, sitting there like I mean heck, we, we've all been there when I first got married and you're sitting there like I've got like $40 to shop groceries with and like got to add it up.
Speaker 2:I can think about tip or tax and then certain things, especially in our state certain things are taxed at a higher percentage than certain food items and break it up. Then you're looking at some things going as a single soda. Is this food or is this candy?
Speaker 1:Is this the 2% one?
Speaker 2:or is this?
Speaker 1:the 6% one, so it's really hard.
Speaker 2:You know, in the store it's annoying, but when you really see it is when you go buy expensive items. Right, like somebody goes and buys a new car, right, and you're like I'll buy this $20,000 car. Well, wait a minute. Now there's tax. Well, like state of North Carolina, it's 3%. Is that what it is on a vehicle tax?
Speaker 1:So you just added a ton to a $20,000 car Exactly. And that's where it's hard, because you're like, oh, I budget for this. And then it's like, hang on, you go get the tag for that thing. And they're like, yeah, you've got to pay your taxes on it. You've got to pay your, depending on where you live. If you live in the city, city and state, it's a whole mess. Again, I don't want to go down. There's not a whole lot. That's off limits for what we'll talk about. We don't really talk politics just because it doesn't really interest either of us, I'll say it's not really off limits.
Speaker 2:It's just some things we don't have no desire to go down. It's hot, but we just don't really.
Speaker 1:I don't follow it enough to really know enough. Honestly, either side no.
Speaker 2:I agree with that.
Speaker 1:So I just don't really mess with it. But speaking of money Money, um, but speaking of money money, we've had kind of this discussion. We're going to jump into some sports stuff. Jim Laranega, miami basketball head coach, yep, resigning, you're just getting after me tonight Like what am I after you?
Speaker 2:now, Cause I don't like this topic either.
Speaker 1:I have wow, you're, you're up on this one too. I am yeah Well. So honestly, I just felt it was a good segue, you're up on this one too.
Speaker 2:I am yeah Well. So honestly, I just felt it was a good segue.
Speaker 1:I'm getting better, it's going right into everything I don't like apparently Listen. I could sit here and talk for 10 days about stuff you don't like.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:That's not hard Shots fired.
Speaker 2:Am I wrong? I?
Speaker 1:don't know. Okay, shut up. I saw the look on the face.
Speaker 2:I know I'm not. I like a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1:I didn't say you don't like things. I just know you don't like a lot of things.
Speaker 2:But see, ain't that the way it's supposed to be? If you don't like something, just say I don't like it, move on, too many people are pleasers. Yes, man, I guess you'd say oh no, I just don't care, I just don't say anything about it.
Speaker 1:I just go on.
Speaker 2:You usually are like yeah, I don't like that. I just kind of don't do that anymore. Sometimes I take being straightforwardness a little bit too much and I'm just like I'll tell you what I think.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I mean, there's certain things. If you don't want to know from you, don't ask.
Speaker 2:If you don't want to know the truth from me, do not ask me for the truth.
Speaker 1:All, do not ask me for the truth, alright. Well, you're already mad at this topic. Alright, let's go. Jim Laranega, miami basketball head coach, yep, stepping down. Yep, we kind of I think we both had this as a topic because as soon as we saw it, it was like we did. Yeah, so the headline, how they pushed it was, oh, you know, jim Laranega. He made it to a Final Four. He had this great team and really, kind of before true preseason started, eight of his guys were want to transfer out and it's like, well, the whole nil's messing it and it's whole like they. They really played him kind of as a victim to start with. Yeah, like he, he did everything he could and they just they wanted more money. Like that's how, that's how it was perceived to me when they first announced it. Okay, keep going ahead, I'll keep going. No, that's, that's how.
Speaker 2:That's how it was perceived to me when they first announced it okay, keep going, go ahead. Oh, keep going.
Speaker 1:No, that's what I want, that's how I wanted to open it and then obviously there's a little more to it as you kind of read into it and then really, if you really look back, he was one of the first big nil pushers. He was like he's one of those, I'm gonna go spend some money, I'm gonna team.
Speaker 2:The whole, all these kids want is more money is kind of the old schoolers finding something to complain about because they don't like that. They're making money. Sure, and you know talking about eight players that wanted to leave. Well, they're only there because you paid them. How long did you think they were going?
Speaker 1:to stay. So none of the guys that he had were really recruited by amy, just miami to start with. They weren't guys that. You know. I dream about playing for miami or or really even like honestly, when you look at places and if miami's going to pay a bunch of money or you know oklahoma's going to pay money, nothing against oklahoma, but the city of miami verse anything in oklahoma, like miami, has a step ahead because of the area.
Speaker 2:When you go get these guys and pay them a bunch of money, you know they're chasing money. So if a bigger bag comes along later, they're out.
Speaker 1:You already know that, especially right now, these guys are going to try to get as much money as they can, because it's going to change, it's going to change it is and it needs to change it does.
Speaker 2:But what is different about these kids going and trying to get a bunch of money versus him going to get a bunch of money as a for a coach?
Speaker 1:So so to me, part of the difference I see is he's under contract, he he has to meet certain requirements, he can be fired. He can be. Let go these, these kids that you promised this money to. There's really nothing you can do Once you tell them this is our money. I mean actually I saw Brian today, florida State's coach, getting sued over promised.
Speaker 2:NIL stuff. Is he still there, ex-coach? No, he's not there anymore.
Speaker 1:But I mean, that's something you see. But as a whole, when you say, hey, I'm going to pay you a million dollars, some of these kids barely play. Oh, I know You've got to get contracts.
Speaker 2:The kids have got to get contracts, just like the coaches.
Speaker 1:Again, I'm not against paying the kids. They make the NCAA billions of dollars every year, especially football, basketball. Your major sports, the major ones yeah, again, I think you should pay the other ones too, like your smaller sports, your swimming, your soccer, your tennis, like they should still get something they should like because they're they're still you know everybody's like well, they're on scholarship to go there, so that's their money, but it's tough because if they work themselves into some kind of deal, good for them. Yes, I'm not saying it should be mandatory to pay them, but if they especially some local small stuff in their hometown that helps them now be allowed to accept money from them. You know, if we have somebody from Brevard, really small area, that's going D1 and he works a deal with somebody local to give him some money, good for him, oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Good for him, whatever sport it is he, she, whatever In any business. Any business it's how much value are you bringing? Right? And when people complain about professional sports how much they're making, well, it's because they're bringing in that much money. I mean, they're bringing in way more than that. That's what makes it worth.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I mean like if you look at the NBA, they're getting what like 6%, yeah, of what's being made by the NBA, like so they're not really getting much of athletes like if they are bringing you millions, it's okay to pay them a million or two or whatever it is you know I just, I just think there's got to be some more control of it, because right now it is an absolute free-for-all. The transfer portal is no longer the transfer portal, it's the free agency, oh, it is free agency.
Speaker 2:and but with this whole coach thing, my biggest problem has happened a couple times now. Yeah, they know the nil situation before the season starts. Oh, absolutely Way before months ago they knew what it was like. Even him again, he went and bought players himself. He knows what it is Right. And now you're a third of the way through the season and you said quit, so they're like four and eight right now, or something like that. Yeah, I don't think it's that good. It's not good, it's nothing very good.
Speaker 1:I think it's actually like 4-8. If they're 11-1, does he say anything?
Speaker 2:No, is he leaving? He's fine. It's an excuse to leave, but the players can't leave right now, or they?
Speaker 1:don't get to play this season. Well, I would say so. We saw it with UNLV in football. Both their starting quarterback and running back before their fourth game said I'm going to redshirt and enter the transfer portal, but their season's over. Yeah, they can't do anything Like a coach. Theoretically he could leave now, and if somebody picks him up and hires him, he could go.
Speaker 2:Didn't they get a lot of slack for that and criticism for oh, they took a ton of slack for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so, and again, I don't know enough about that story because there's going to be a lot of that's kind of behind closed doors. You know, quarterback is saying you promised me money that I'm not now getting, so I'm going to go elsewhere.
Speaker 2:If you have a contract, you don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 1:Correct, that's weird, but see, that's where I like the idea of a contract where kind of like with some of the pro stuff is here's a base number, x amount of dollars, incentives per thing.
Speaker 2:And give them buyouts. So if you go to another school, that school or you have to pay to buy out of your contract, right, I think that'll slow down your transfer portal stuff, yeah it would, because right now the big name Quinn Ewers $4 million potentially to go somewhere.
Speaker 1:Oregon's talking about getting him. Some of these teams and it's like they are still playing for a national championship, like they won their first round. They are now moving on to play Arizona state. He's the starting quarterback and we're talking about giving him money to go somewhere else. And it's just that's free agency.
Speaker 2:That's not transfer. And so this coach. I don't know a lot about his past. You know I've seen some and he was a good coach.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he was a good coach.
Speaker 2:yeah, so he's a good he took george basin yeah, final four yeah, so he's. That was a fun year, good career. Now I don't. I think the only success he had at miami was because he bought those players, but regardless he's a good coach and my problem no, but my problem is the media is painting it out as he's the hero, whatever, when any kid that walked out in the middle of season, we immediately talk negative on them.
Speaker 1:Yes, but the coach that does it. It's like, oh, we appreciate him standing up, and it's like make it make sense I want to see.
Speaker 2:I want to see a kid that steps up and says I hate the nil system. I'm backing out right middle season. See what people do to him I don't know that.
Speaker 1:I don't think you get one probably not, because you think about it when they're bad-mouthing some of these. If they bad-mouth some of these adults kind of know what you signed up for when you're a head coach at these big schools. When you get them talking bad about you on first take or on sports center or whatever it may be, you're in the limelight, You're kind of going to get that position, but they always kind of leave the kids alone to an extent they should. Now, when you get pro, it's a little different.
Speaker 1:In pros. You hear them kind of talk bad about them Not quite as bad as they do coaches, but they do definitely talk down on them.
Speaker 2:That could be the kind of thing of you know these are kids, we don't want them. Whoa that one. You know these are kids, we don't want them. Whoa that one snuck up on you a little choke till there. We don't want them to be professional subject yeah, it's really emotional to me. Um, we don't want them to be professionals to where you know. The media can then feel like you know, because if you're getting paid millions of dollars, you can be criticized a whole lot more.
Speaker 2:Oh absolutely but at the same time, we are. These are kids, but they're not kids. Like you can send 18 year old to the military and and do all that stuff right. Like these are 18 year old kids going off to college, 19, 20, whatever they are. Well, I mean for some of them. They're 17.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like some of these kids they go early and they're it's a business, like it's okay, it is so. So that's kind of where I keep going back to contracts, maybe some type of collective bargaining, something that there's somebody there trying to help them because, like right now, like they're getting these millions and like they're having to pay for finance people and they're paying this, they're paying that, and it's like maybe we do this a bit smarter and try to help set them up. I wish some of these kids are making money now. That's the money they're going to make. They're not going to make it.
Speaker 2:I wish the school was paying the kids and any NIL type stuff the kids does. The school gets back, kind of like set the contract up Like we're going to pay you so many million dollars but everything you know, you're going to do commercials for us, you're going to do all this other and you don't get paid for that senior contract kind of appearance type stuff.
Speaker 1:you know whatever and that way the kids guarantee this money. That's kind of what's happened to some of the smaller businesses. People are like, hey, you have to show up x amount of times a year, and it's usually but do it to the school and there's not all this stuff going around.
Speaker 2:But that's me requires the school.
Speaker 1:You'd almost have to hire like an advisor for that that like helps. Oh, you would like I don't know what some kind of manager of some type that just kind of handles all that which every athletic team, especially the bigger ones, need some kind of uh, gm or something to handle the money more than just contracts and, like a head coach, has enough to deal with. He doesn't need to.
Speaker 2:That's why you see head coaches leaving, just like this one. You saw nick saban do it, and a bunch of them have talked about it. If they had that person, maybe they could, maybe they stay coach and yeah, well, I don't have to worry about the money as much.
Speaker 1:Um, which is hard because the head coach is gonna have to be involved some because when you go recruit these high school kids, you know these top 10 kids that you know the ones you always talk about. There's always that when you go in you kind of have to say and here's the money we're going to bring. Yeah, you know, it may change a little bit, um, but if you could take some of that out of the hands of the head coach, I do think that would help it would help them yeah, um, but now I kind of really didn't have this on here to kind of just remind me of that.
Speaker 1:This whole JUCO doesn't count as your eligibility, it's a whole nother. There's gonna be a lot of high school kids that don't get looked at, so they're gonna go through JUCO and what I see.
Speaker 2:They're battling it. It's going back into court again right now. It's still saying it doesn't count.
Speaker 1:I say so. They still are fighting some of that, but while it's in kind of this litigation period, it's being held as we're counting it Like we're not going to count it, so it's still up for.
Speaker 2:So I get how it's going to change things, but change isn't always bad, and that's where I'm trying to figure out. Is it bad, is it good? I don't know.
Speaker 1:The kind of somewhat the problem I have of it is you're going to start seeing more like 26, 27-year-old college seniors and at that point, like some of these kids are going to be nothing more than college players, like they're going to peak.
Speaker 1:That's going to be it for them, yeah, but then it's also going to become well, they played there, then they're going to transfer, then they're going to transfer, then they're going to transfer, then they're going to transfer, and you're going to have played for eight different schools chasing money, especially if that part doesn't change yet and it just kind of gets out of hand at that point.
Speaker 2:No, I see your point there if it stays that way. But if they fix the money part with the contracts or however else, they do it to kind of get kids to stay at schools longer, right, and at that point we're kind of making college the minor leagues correct.
Speaker 1:So I don't see a problem with a 26 year old in minor league basketball, basically, if that's what we're saying, or minor league football, I don't um, I just think where we're, where the ncaa is chasing money so much, you kind of stop looking out for those kids Because, I mean, you and I both know being in our 30s, the closer you get to that number, the less your body handles things, oh yeah, and if you're playing, eight years of college football.
Speaker 1:your body's going to be destroyed Like, don't get me wrong, these guys do it in the NFL and they're in a certain shape.
Speaker 2:But isn't that the way baseball is Like, when you get into minor league baseball and you're going through all the different levels.
Speaker 1:Baseball's different. It depends on how high of a prospect are you. So you know some of these Jackson Holiday kids and the ones that are just big, big names, they're not starting at the bottom. They. And the ones that are just big, big names, they're not starting at the bottom.
Speaker 2:They're going to get a really small stint in AA, moving to AAA, but won't that same thing will happen in college football or basketball? If you're that good, you're going to go to the NBA or whatever, maybe, but you know I love going to minor league baseball games.
Speaker 1:I just think it's going to crowd it up so much that I think you're then just going to see more and more movement, because there's gonna be so many kids that, like now, have peaked, whether it be that two years of juco and now all of a sudden you know ohio state, or georgia, or texas, or these guys like, well, we're bringing in our next quarterback and the guy that's really good right behind then, then it transfers, and then it transfers. It's just it's gonna get really crowded. So I'm just not sure how it's gonna work. I'm not saying necessarily that it's 100% bad. I'm really not sure how it's going to work at its best.
Speaker 2:It's going to take some work to figure it all out, and that's what somebody's got to do. I wouldn't mind seeing it almost a minor league baseball system, because I think it works.
Speaker 1:Maybe Again, I'm not against it. I think we've got to clear up some of the stuff with it.
Speaker 2:It's got to be different.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing. Like we said with the football playoff, we've got to clear up some stuff on how we pick these teams and things.
Speaker 2:But wouldn't it be great if you was, I don't know, let's say in the NBA team? I don't know. Charlotte Hornets, Not Charlotte, what are they? Yeah, the Hornets Hornets now. Didn't they change the name for a while? I don't remember that's been a long time ago.
Speaker 1:I don't know. They've been the Hornets for a long time. I don't know. It's not been Bobcats since Many, many years ago. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But let's say It'd be nice if you could Do what the Major League Baseball teams do, and you draft somebody and you put them in a minor league program and you put them through some different levels, I mean you have the G League, the G League, but it's not any good. Nobody cares about the G League.
Speaker 1:There are very few players that come out of the G League, that actually go make a difference in the NBA.
Speaker 1:There are some, but you're not getting your stars in there. But the G League what's kind of nice with some of that is you have these guys signed two-way where you can bounce them back and forth and they can play a little bit of both. Yeah, that helped. A lot of those guys are still not gonna be nba guys. A big problem with the g league there's no eyes on that. Like, if you don't have a team to you locally, you're not going to travel to see, but don't you think minor league baseball is the same way?
Speaker 1:the difference is there's so many more minor league teams. There is a lot. So because you have Single A Shout out.
Speaker 2:Jumbo Shrimp. By the way, I love going to Jumbo Shrimp, jacksonville, jacksonville, yeah, well see, I'm one of the Asheville tourists. That's single A See, I've never been there, you've never been to.
Speaker 1:McCormick oh that's a great one. Well, so it's getting redone, which I'm excited about. The Astros Fun little place. Noah loves it because they have a dollar hot dog night. So dollar hot dog night, I'd get Noah to go to a baseball game. That'd be nice. Might eat some hot dogs that night. Yeah, I mean, it's just a good little stadium. You can see everywhere. See, it's fun.
Speaker 2:Even though there are 30-year-olds out there, some of them probably playing baseball, it's still fun.
Speaker 1:So, because you have like single A, you've got high A, you've got double A, you've got these summer league teams, which you know we have one in Hendersonville, yep, but ours actually was the head coach of them for seven years, I know I didn't realize he wasn't anymore until as of like very, very recent.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they hired a new head coach.
Speaker 1:Like when I was living in Shelby we had the Forest City Owls that we used to go watch. That was summer league. A lot of your college guys come and play wood bat stuff. But then because there's so many more teams and it's just out there so much more, I feel like that gets a little bit more to it. But at the same time baseball has so many more players Because you've got to think like baseball there's nine on a field at a time, plus pitchers.
Speaker 1:There's at least five in a rotation, but then relievers and closers. So like you've got, it's a big team. So there's a lot more players too, that you know. You're going pro Basketball. Not many is going pro. Football is large teams, but still you know there's no middle ground for it.
Speaker 2:You just brought a random thought to my head. Okay, why is baseball the only sport I think the only sport that the coach in quotations here wears a uniform like they're playing? Nobody else does that, no other sport.
Speaker 1:So the manager, because they're the manager.
Speaker 2:Exactly, they're the manager.
Speaker 1:That's why I say coach, but no other sport that I know of you imagine basketball coach on the sideline wearing a jersey and shorts hey, will call me, because when you get to, when you get to this point, call me and answer that, because I feel like you'll probably know, because I don't. I really don't know. I did back in the day, did they like?
Speaker 2:jump in the game so like a player coach thing. I really gotta be ready to go, because I'm sure it's. It's been that way forever and it's something they just keep going with because of that, but I don't know.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing, I don't mind it I don't mind like, I think it looks cool yeah which not all of them wear just like the full, like it uses like pants and you know, a pullover of some kind, especially some of the younger guys that are managers in Major League. Now that it's a weird kind of seeing Because I'm like I remember watching them growing up and like they're managers now, like a lot of them are not really wearing the top the same way, but I remember like thinking like as a Braves fan, bobby Cox, bobby Cox, that's okay, Like that's the one that comes to mind.
Speaker 1:It's wear the uniform the same way, chipper wore the uniform it fits different but he looked like he was.
Speaker 2:He could go out there and bat like he was in full uniform.
Speaker 1:That man would have fell over trying to, trying to get to home plate. What do you say his? Uniform looked like he's like on the team sorry bobby cox, I used to love him like there's no hate there.
Speaker 2:No no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I just don't know why that's one thinking of that, though, like bobby cox, it takes me back. Chipper jones andrew jones, andres galarraga um ryan glavin matic smoltz like the team was the team.
Speaker 2:God that was such a fun fun era of baseball.
Speaker 1:And again, not saying baseball is bad now because there's, these guys are super, super talented like cross the board.
Speaker 2:I don't really watch baseball anymore. I didn't.
Speaker 1:I haven't watched it nearly as much um, I enjoy it when I get, when I really just get time to it. But, like, my kids don't really let me watch it because they're like, oh, this is boring, I don't want to watch this. We're on a big Power Rangers kick right now with the little one. He's watched Power Rangers like crazy.
Speaker 2:I haven't seen.
Speaker 1:Power Rangers in years. So I'm not really getting to watch the sports the way I'd like to, so you're not getting to watch much at all but Power Rangers Well so I mean you buy this big TV to put on the wall and I end up watching sports on my phone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how it is Like that's what happens, and it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm trying to get the kids into sports, so they'll sit there and watch them with me sports, but he doesn't last long, like he just doesn't have the attention to sit there like I'm gonna watch a sports game. Nobody has attention anymore. No, that's very true. That's very, very true. Um, yeah, I don't have attention to read my own notes here. So so one thing I saw a couple days ago and I kind of laughed at it north carolina played yukn in a bowl game.
Speaker 2:Didn't watch the bowl game. Were we talking basketball or were we talking?
Speaker 1:No, we're going to football because we're talking about baseball stadium or baseball, and it made me think of this. So they played. I think they said it was at Fenway. I hate when they do that. They played a football game At one point. I think it was UConn that had the ball. They're on like the 25 or something. Half the broadcast is not seen because the foul pole's in the way and I'm like and again I feel the same way Like we have football stadiums, play in a football stadium, yeah, like play at the.
Speaker 1:Patriots stadium up there, like it's the same area.
Speaker 2:Like. That makes no sense to me. But they get like the corner of the end zone, like a wall right there or something because they're so close, trying to fit them in. Because it's not made for those dimensions.
Speaker 1:The fans can't really get in there the same way, correct? Or didn't they do a football game or something at one of the NASCAR stadiums?
Speaker 2:No, that's okay, I don't mind that. So the issue I have with it, the stands are so far away. Well, so it's Bristol Motor Speedway.
Speaker 1:So it's a small track.
Speaker 2:It is small, it is a big bowl. You're not there. It's not the same. I don't know if you know this. They're doing a baseball game there next year and I don't know exactly how it's going to work. Braves and Reds are going to play in the middle there.
Speaker 1:Might have to go to that game.
Speaker 2:I'll go. I saw some um kind of a diagram of how the field's supposed to lay out. Looks okay, but you're gonna have the same thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just I hate you have some. I love the experience, like like you guys went down to uh, clemson, kentucky not that long ago. I've been to that you know little john coliseum, a ton. You feel like it's not, it's not really big no, it's not, you're right, it's a great seat everywhere, like you feel like you're just right there. So when you really get stretched out and now your front row seat is way away from where you're at, it just doesn't feel the same.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're talking about the Kentucky game, that's. You know. I think they hold 8,000 or 9,000 down there at Clemson Right Little John Stadium, somewhere in that range. You go to Rep Arena in. It's very different. Well, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm a Tar Heel basketball fan and have been my entire life. You know, the Dean Dome is big, that's a big arena. So like when you go to Clemson, or really you go to Duke, go to Cameron that's a tiny little place.
Speaker 1:That's a few thousand. It's just very, very different. But yeah, so I knew when I brought up a football game at a baseball stadium you'd have something to say about that. See, you're still just bringing up stuff I don't like. Apparently, maybe that's just what it is tonight, maybe. But I just remembered I saw the video and I'm like I don't even know what happened.
Speaker 2:And it was kind of a big play that you couldn't see. A man doesn't like what he doesn't like. That's just what it is. Or you just little, can't think of anything at the moment. But what do you like? Uh, ask me again tomorrow. I gotta think about it for a minute. That's a hard question. What do you like?
Speaker 1:you know, I mean, honestly, I like food, like I like food, I mean see, but it took me two seconds and then you just jumped on on board exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the roll in the eyes. Who doesn't like food?
Speaker 1:like come on I mean there's, I listen, I know some people, I've watched them eat. I'm like you can't like food to Come on. I mean there's listen, I know some people, I've watched them eat. I'm like you can't like food to eat that way.
Speaker 2:I was going to say. That's kind of like saying I like sleep, but I don't like sleep either. I see you don't like sleep, you've always said that Sleep is a waste of time. Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1:But the thing is though, okay, think about it.
Speaker 2:We drove to Nashville nashville yesterday.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know you had no sleep the night before. You slept like three hours. It was not good, and then you drove the entire way. Yeah, we drove over there back same day. Yeah, I mean what 14 and a half hours, I think. We left the house just after seven. You know, during a tornado warning of all things rained the entire way there, so that didn't help it. And then didn't get back to your house till what 9 30 or so. I mean it's pretty late 9 30, so it was a long day. I got after that.
Speaker 2:I was so happy to sleep probably two and a half hours out. I'm not an energy drink person and I had to have a red bull.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I still have a red weather cooler and I was like well, so that's what I was telling my wife today. I was like look, I didn't drive at all like david and I absolutely would have. Yeah, I have no problem doing that.
Speaker 2:I like to drive. I know you do. I like something, I like to drive. Hey, there you go, you like something?
Speaker 1:The next segment. Let's find things that David likes. We may be here a while, but no, yes, I do. So you're like Amanda's the same way. She likes to drive, like when we go places, she does prefer it. Um and again I it doesn't bother me, I don't really care, but yes, if you need me to drive a car, it's really easy, even in like seats the same way yeah, she's the same way.
Speaker 1:Um, but I told her today I was like he even made comments at point. If I wanted to sleep, I could, but I felt bad yeah, I'm like I want to help him stay awake. So like I'm going to try to stay awake, but there was a section there it was like I don't know if I can.
Speaker 2:Like I did?
Speaker 1:I stayed awake the entire time.
Speaker 2:You did, you did, but it was. It was time to stop. I needed to stop Cause yeah. Yeah, I mean I got a Dr Pepper sweet tarts and a slice of pizza to keep me up.
Speaker 1:You you got diabetes is what you got.
Speaker 2:Okay, listen. Sorry, hayley, you're already gonna yell at me again well, what was his name?
Speaker 1:like clifford, something that did those commercials, and he always called it diabetes.
Speaker 2:Clifford the big red dog no, oh my gosh, that's like clifford.
Speaker 1:I know I can't remember his name, but he used to those commercials and he's like hi, I'm such such and I have diabetes like somebody might lc.
Speaker 2:We used to do those commercials and he's like hi, I'm such and such and I have diabetes. So a buddy of mine, lce.
Speaker 1:We used to watch those commercials when we were working real late.
Speaker 2:It was hilarious.
Speaker 1:Actually, James will probably listen to this and he'll probably remember us watching that video. So I'll probably get a text about that before long. But yeah, so I'm sitting there like what did you get to keep you awake? And you're like, well, I don't really drink energy drinks, so I had gotten one. I'm like I got to try to keep myself awake too, to help you, and you actually didn't mind the one you got it was actually good, but you're like I have a Red Bull, a hot chocolate, a Dr Pepper and sweet.
Speaker 1:I had to stop and use the bathroom 15,000 times, which you do that anyways, that's true. But that much stuff, yeah, you were struggling. I never finished the Dr Pepper. So the thing is, I bought stuff too, and you had a piece of pizza. Oh yeah, because it was pretty late. We hadn't eaten anything since that massive lunch. That was awful, that was no good. So we had a piece of pizza and then I drank my Red Bull. I didn't eat the other stuff, Like I had bought a couple other things.
Speaker 2:I think you got some candy or something you never opened.
Speaker 1:Well, I had some Starburst, that's right, that's what it was, because I was like I just want something to kind of just eat here and there, and I didn't eat up any Wow goodness gracious that truck it got me Our friend that drives by all the time really loud, that brian likes to listen. For let's stop and get him on the podcast. I don't know that I want him on the podcast I don't know, I don't know who he is.
Speaker 1:I mean, this is about the time of night, though, that he comes by. I mean he gets an appearance on here all the time, so he does. We're giving him a free publicity, um. But yeah, so I got all that stuff and it was like never even ate it. I think I was just trying to force myself to stay awake because I got really tired there for a bit, yep, and then the GPS killed us. We're on 26, still good ways away from our exit, and it's like, oh, you're 30 minutes away, because I remember you made the comment I can make it to here from my house in 30 minutes.
Speaker 2:There's no way. I thought you were talking about the other part. But yes, you're right, that part. I was thinking of the other part where I'm thinking we're getting home at a certain time.
Speaker 1:Oh right.
Speaker 2:And all of a sudden it tells me to take this exit coming up and I'm like that's not right and so I pulled up and what it was trying to do, because Forty's closed down it was trying to take us through the mountains and the hot springs't bad if it's decent weather and I'm not pulling a trailer. It is like I'll go that way anytime I have no, oh yeah, I don't either, but yeah, I didn't really want to be in that tire, super windy, I mean it was.
Speaker 2:It was like 15 mile an hour on the low side, yeah so then when I fix it, it's like add another 30 minutes, like come on well, but then we're to that section.
Speaker 1:It oh, you have 30 minutes. And then we drove 10 minutes and it still said 30 minutes. We drove another 10 minutes and it dropped like 28.
Speaker 2:And I'm like yeah, that wasn't right. It was even tired. It was like y'all been driving too much today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it turned me off. This is getting old, it's like nobody drives as much in one day. Well, so that? And then we got to talk do like long haul trucking, there's no shot. When I was a kid, that's what I wanted to do. I would be so bored, but I like to drive, so I don't know well. I mean, I mean, you know, my previous job would be driving around hours and hours, yeah, yeah I mean it's. It's different, though, because you can stop.
Speaker 2:That's what I see we was talking about getting. We need all the truckers listening. So any truckers listening. Hey, keep listening.
Speaker 1:Thank you, you got nothing else to do, you're just driving, that's true, um, but maybe when you get all the truckers to listen.
Speaker 2:So any truckers listening, hey, keep listening. Thank you, because you've got nothing else to do, you're just driving. No, that's true, but maybe when you get all the locals you know police officers and all that they're driving around.
Speaker 1:I mean, some already listen. Yeah, they've been making fun of us for a few weeks now. One in particular. He's interested in a game tomorrow because South Carolina plays Illinois. Just because of it, I'm picking Illinois, okay. So when you hear this, just know I'm picking the Fighting Illini and you're going to hate me for it, but it's okay. You know what? Let's go South Carolina. Dave is just trying not to get a ticket, is all that is.
Speaker 2:No, I think he lives down the road from me. Yeah, he doesn't live far. Yeah, you're really just trying to get out of the ticket. I may need him one day Come on.
Speaker 1:I'm going to call him and be like he was lying.
Speaker 2:He actually placed a bet on Illinois. Listen, if one day, everything hits the fan. I may have to show up at his house. He's going to turn you away. He's like no, I ain't got nothing for you Probably Get out of here.
Speaker 1:You may have picked South Carolina once, but you're not coming. Yeah, so again, I'm not watching that ballgame.
Speaker 2:Like I have no desire to watch it. I didn't even know it was on Kentucky basketball plays tomorrow. I'll watch it and they're playing a nobody so.
Speaker 1:Well, but we're getting really close to conference starting and the SEC could be just like SEC football. It's getting crazy. There's what five SEC in the top ten. Mm-hmm, they've got number one, they've got one and two. No, I haven't looked today.
Speaker 2:I think Florida's like four, three or four or something.
Speaker 1:I haven't looked at it today. I kind of was messing around with it. Yesterday Kentucky dropped to like ten, I think.
Speaker 2:They're at ten. Auburn, yeah, auburn, maybe Florida.
Speaker 1:They've got quite a bit and it's I'm just afraid they're going to beat each other. Is Alabama in there too? So you've got I'm looking at it now Tennessee 1, auburn 2, alabama 5, florida 6. Florida's a 6. Now, okay, uk 10. But then you've got Texas A&M at 13, mississippi State at 17, arkansas at 23, ole Miss at 24. I mean, it is loaded right now and I'm afraid it's going to be like football. They are just going to go beat each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's okay in basketball, because it's different basketball. The way the bracket comes out and that, and how many teams you have.
Speaker 1:But though, when you play that many tough games and it's mentally taxing, it's physically taxing Are you as well rested as some of these other schools when it comes time for tournament, when they've had cupcakes all year? Well, I mean, you look at some of these other conferences. They don't have strength top to bottom, like there's there's a few, you get a few good teams and they'll.
Speaker 1:You know they have some good games and stuff, but you don't have just these. We're going to beat each other up for however many weeks over this next I guess two months, because kind of January, february is all kind of the conference.
Speaker 2:But it makes it fun for the fans.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's great for the fans. You get a lot of good games. It's great for the fans. I'm just hoping Tar Heels somewhat turn it around. I mean, they played Campbell a night or two ago and didn't look great.
Speaker 2:They struggled.
Speaker 1:Is that playing to your competition Potentially? I mean, I do think they do that because their losses and we kind of went over that yesterday their losses are all like ranked teams, like it's all like really good teams at this point. And then even then they've got a few good wins. I mean they beat UCLA a week or so ago and that's a pretty solid win, I'm really looking forward to the game Saturday with our youth girls basketball team.
Speaker 2:This is true, We've got game one.
Speaker 1:Liberty. It's game week it is. I actually kind of forgot about that. We had practice a few hours ago. It feels like it was forever ago. It kind of does. A solid practice though're. They're picking up some stuff, and it's been it's been fun, which I talked to will about that today we're talking about. You know, we used to coach together with another friend of ours and and it's obviously not the same, because obviously you're not, you're just not in it as much I mean you're, you've practiced every single day.
Speaker 2:It's, it's very different and I told him I was, like you know, we had what a month.
Speaker 1:Which doesn't seem long to really practice a month, but you practice five days a week, so we had 20 practices for our first game. You know, not quite that. We had scrimmage and stuff. What did we have? Five, really four, because we added that other one. Yeah, we added another one, so we've had four practices and they're only an hour each, so it's really really hard to teach a lot of that, because some of those girls have never played.
Speaker 1:Like some of the younger ones, have literally never played before or have not played organized before, like playing at rec centers and this onto some off stuff but not really really playing.
Speaker 2:What you see a lot in this because of the young ones coming in never played is there's a pretty good gap from the good players to the ones that have never played, and even on our very large gap we have that with a few that are you know pretty well, and that's the thing is like, of course, and of course at that age like, oh, let's scrimm, let's scrimmage, let's scrimmage, and they want to.
Speaker 1:And obviously we save that for just that few minutes at the tail end. You know cause? It's again, it's rec league. We want them to have fun. That's, that's the biggest part of it.
Speaker 2:Have fun learn the game and really just grow into it.
Speaker 1:But it's so hard to really get everybody there. We had eight of our tens. You're playing four on four. There was no way to even those. No, there wasn't. There's literally no way we could have even those out really any other way. Because I thought at one point it's like, oh, this should be pretty good, and then it started in a direction I didn't think was going to happen and then just yeah, yeah, it's hard Now.
Speaker 2:there's two or three that you cannot put on the same team when you're trying to even it up.
Speaker 1:No, they have to be opposite every time because they're going to cover each other. It's like you guys go there and we know how it's going to happen, but again they're doing so good. They've improved a ton, even just those few weeks. It's just they. Literally there are two youngest, two smallest, and first year for either of them to play any organized basketball. So it's like to see any growth already is impressive.
Speaker 2:Oh, they were making some shots tonight. They did. I was surprised they did.
Speaker 1:So they both got some big high fives for that First shot they probably made since we started practice.
Speaker 2:So it was really really cool, that's, you know. The entire team has just grown so much, even though it's not been a lot of practice, and I wish we could practice more, I do.
Speaker 1:Well, it's a fun group to be around, like there's just the personality that you get to get to know and all that stuff, like it's yeah, we've talked about it.
Speaker 2:You know, I want to do something kind of outside of basketball for him, or take him to, or somewhere.
Speaker 1:Just let them have some fun and enjoy it, and let them be kids, just kind of get them out of it and just more of a fun hangout time Really for both the kids and parents. That's one thing. We really haven't had time to get involved with parents much because other than a group text, just because you don't have time, you about have to just set apart time completely for that.
Speaker 2:We'll try to do that at some point. That'll be fun, which that's part of. The fun is just hanging out with the kids, I mean I enjoy that.
Speaker 1:So that's the thing. It's first game this weekend, 2025, starting in a couple days. Another big thing coming up very soon PGA Tour is back. I'm super excited about that.
Speaker 2:Oh, I didn't get to ask you about this controversy.
Speaker 1:What controversy?
Speaker 2:you got With Tiger and Charlie losing because the guy gets to tee it up from 15,000 yards ahead of him.
Speaker 1:I'll be honest with you PNC I don't care much for, just because half the people playing in it it's just they're really not very good. But you have a few teams that are good. Obviously, tigers can play with Charlie. Get as much publicity for Charlie as you can.
Speaker 2:I'm assuming, jason Day put his son but I didn't say not Jason Day, good Lord, I'm doing what you're doing with Ryan Day. Jason Day, who am I talking?
Speaker 1:about. I don't know who you went to, mr.
Speaker 2:Mullet, mr Mullet, you know Mr Mullet Back in the day. I don't know the only party guy on the PGA Tour that's played on the PGA Tour. What's his?
Speaker 1:name. Listen, you have gone so far out there. You're talking about John Daly. John Daly, he was Daisy. So far out there You're talking about John Daly.
Speaker 2:John Daly he was Daisy.
Speaker 1:But I mean, you were so lost in that one you were never going to get there.
Speaker 2:I was not going to get there. You were never getting there. I knew it was Daly. I don't know if they played this year or not, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I feel like I've seen them in the past few years and I'm sure they probably did they usually dress alike? I just don, which again I didn't really get to watch much of it this year, kind of where it fell with the holiday and everything. I didn't really get to watch a ton yeah, I didn't watch any of it, but yeah, so Tiger and Charlie is the best year they've played.
Speaker 1:I mean, they were right there at the lead the whole two days, but they went to a playoff. They ended up going to a playoff in the end with what? Is it? Bernard Longer? I believe he's South African or something, so he's on PGA Champions. So who played with him? One of his sons, I believe.
Speaker 2:Okay, I didn't know who it was who's a pretty good golfer, he's solid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he is on the PGA Champions and he is the head of the PGA Champions. He's been player of the year the past several years. He's still a he's a stunt of a player hitting it pretty far and the the controversy I know what you're talking about is he got to play severely forward?
Speaker 2:well, for those who don't know, compared to charlie, there's different t-boxes, correct, and some of it has to do a skill. When you're learning you can get closer, but there are ladies t-boxes I say as you get to age it's just a age or ability.
Speaker 1:You just you don't have that kind of length, like. Like the lpga doesn't play the same length as the pga, but the pga, those guys hit it so far with every club.
Speaker 2:But in the same tournament because he's over? Was it 55 or whatever the age is?
Speaker 1:I don't know what yeah, he's mid upper 60s. Okay, because of the eight because he's over.
Speaker 2:Whatever that age threshold is, he got to maybe 70s. I can't tee it up a whole lot closer to the hole than even Charlie, who's a kid did, which is funny because his average driving this year was 275.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like that's not short, that's not at all. Like, I guess for an amateur golfer hit it decently far. With my driver I can carry it on a good day 260, 270. So he's hitting as far as I am, or just a little bit behind, and again I'm not on these guys' level. I mean, when he hits it, he hits it straight. I just hit it Like it's a little different.
Speaker 2:So I didn't see the playoff, but do you think that played a part? Because he was so much closer in that final hole?
Speaker 1:Man, we're getting the racetrack tonight. I don't think it hurt by any means, Obviously it didn't hurt. Because they play some different format stuff. You have some basketball, you have some scramble, you have whatever. Actually, I didn't get to watch the playoff live, which I really wish I would have, because it turned out to be a pretty good tournament there at the end. But yeah, to me, if you are a pro, you're not the guest, you are the pro. You probably should have to play back there whatever, the set tee box is.
Speaker 1:It's a little bit weird to play that far forward. Yeah, down at your local course. And again, it's Tiger Woods. I'd love to see him win. Because I don't know if he's going to win an actual tournament, because that obviously doesn't count towards your anything, because it's just a little two-day tournament.
Speaker 2:I'd love to see that. Do you have a problem with the tee boxes Just being separate tees in general, or do you think there should be changes? Like, yes, they're okay, but should they change some things with them? What do you mean exactly? Well, so well, first off, are you okay that there's different tee boxes for your ability, for your age, for oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Okay, absolutely so. So like for me, if I may have some distance, but I'm not like a super good golfer, so I don't play from the very back. Theoretically, so, if I'm like a scratch golfer, which in regular terms mean that if the course par is 72, scratch is going to shoot 72. If I'm that kind of guy with the distance I have, yes, I'm going to play in the very back because it should be as hard as I can make it.
Speaker 1:But because I'm not that'm gonna play forward, so I'm gonna try to give myself a little bit so I agree with that. I like the different t-boxes um, well, but I think it helps, like if, if I want to. You know, if my wife got big into golf, she shouldn't play from the same distance I play. I'll agree with that, even though I'm playing.
Speaker 2:So what about when it goes to a tournament? Even if you yourself is not professional, goes and plays in a tournament. Yeah, should people get to play for closer than you or further than you, depending on how they play?
Speaker 1:so, like the tournaments that I've played in um, especially the one individual tournament that I've played in a few years ago, it was flighted by handicap, so if you were in that flight, you played from a certain tee box, so it didn't matter your age.
Speaker 2:No, if this is your handicap, you're playing from this distance.
Speaker 1:Yes, Period Okay, and again they didn't play us from the back. We were like one or two forward.
Speaker 2:And so I'm the same way. I like it because of the different abilities, right, especially people just getting to play golf or just going out and having fun Tournaments I think you should all play for the same one.
Speaker 1:So, like there's an older gentleman out at the range that we talk to literally all the time Super, super nice guy we're going to go play golf with him in the spring. He needs to play as far forward as he can play.
Speaker 2:Because he does not have any distance anymore, but he's not playing in a tournament or anything like that. So casually.
Speaker 1:Yes, and again, max Homa says it Golf is hard, golf sucks. Make it as easy as you can. Try to make it Like don't be over strict, you're not playing for money. When it's just casual golf, keep it casual.
Speaker 2:Keep it simple. The one thing I might like to see different and I guess this is each course that decides this is the distance too far apart, because you know some of the back ones like we'll play. We won't play all the way back, but we'll play no.
Speaker 1:And they're pretty close together.
Speaker 2:I play one forward and even some of those, there'll be two teams together, because they're really close. Yeah, but then you start getting into some of the seniors and things like that and they're way up there.
Speaker 1:So I think it just depends on the hole, because there's a couple, even locally. I can think of Even one forward where we're playing. Typically some of the seniors are almost 100 yards forward of that.
Speaker 2:I mean I've teed off before and I'm no good golfer, by no means I've teed off in my second shots right around the senior tees.
Speaker 1:I'm like, well, so there's especially like a golf course close to us Etowah Golf Course, I think, close to us at a wall golf course um, I think it's on west makes kind of the big turns actually. Uh, par five goes kind of back there into the corner and the senior tees are at the at the turn. Yes, the senior tees are at the spot that you were aiming from, the t-box replay.
Speaker 2:So to me it's like I'm trying to hit that landing zone. That one's probably a bit much now I know some courses.
Speaker 1:They do it because it's kind of space constraints. You have to put it just kind of where it fits. Where it fits. You don't really have a choice as much. But sometimes, yeah, it's, it's, you're trying to help them out. But at what point did you make the hole too short, like if it's a.
Speaker 1:if it's a big long par five, it should still feel like a big long par five to them, even at those front tees it's. It's hard to then say, well, it's a you know, 300 yard par five. It's just, it's a very different setup, so I don't know a true thing and I'm okay If.
Speaker 2:If you're just out there by yourself with your buddies and you go teed up there, fine, I don't care. Teed up in the middle of the fairway if you want to, I don't care, have fun. I don't care how you play, it's not about that, it's just when you get into tournaments and you're playing your buddies and you're actually trying to play against each other no-transcript when they get to that point.
Speaker 1:I have heard some of those places will still let you play by the tee box, by the tee box. And again, to me, obviously there's no not technically money involved in that. There's some winnings and things, but to me that's like tournament. You've got to all play the same. You. To me that's like tournament, you've got to all play the same, you've got to play the same. I don't want a guy that wins, that played from the senior tees just because the guy from the back had to land at your senior tees for some of the shots.
Speaker 2:Well, I understand the whole handicap system and why we have it Right. But even if you're a better golfer than me, but if you and I go out and say, all right, we're playing against you, I want to look at my handicap.
Speaker 1:You don't want to beat me because of the strokes you were given. You want to just win.
Speaker 2:No. Now, if we go out ahead of time and you say, hey, I know I'm better than you, I'm going to give you 10 strokes, I'm going to give you 15 strokes, or whatever, right, then we'd agree on that. Fine, a little different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it shouldn't be which again when? Yeah. So I mean we look at some of the handicap stuff just because we like to see where it falls. But really typically we go play golf, we're not really playing against each other, we're just kind of really just going to hang out, have fun.
Speaker 2:We go play golf, no, we don't do that with anything, like we don't go play one-on-one basketball in the yard and go. I'm gonna spot you five points. Some people would, uh, but that's not a, there's plenty of people I could do that with.
Speaker 1:No, that's what I'm saying um, but, but we don't basketball is different to like it's got to be a huge, huge, like massive gap to do that um. But even then you kind of just you don't really do that, you kind of just take it easy, you don't, you don't give the point gap, you just don't play your hardest. Um, golf is kind of hard because there's not really not playing your hardest, like you cannot be like tournament focused. Golf is a hard sport.
Speaker 2:Golf's a very hard sport, it's fun, and I don't want to say that and keep everybody playing it, cause even with me not being good, and sometimes I come to play golf, my wife's like why do you even go play?
Speaker 1:I've heard you at times I don't know why I do this, but it's still fun at us to go hang out Like the guys we go play with, or like if we're out at the range with guys like it's just fun hanging out. It is, you know, having a good time. Golf courses are usually beautiful places. A beautiful land and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:And you know for you, you're not going if it's cold.
Speaker 1:So you know, into golf and saying I want to be good, you have to decide what does good mean, because good to golfers can be a widespread. For some guys they'll say, well, I just want to break 100. That's not as easy as it sounds, and no, it's not. But for some guys they're just, you know, I don't want to shoot 150. If that's your goal, awesome, go have fun. Go have fun.
Speaker 2:Like we said the other day, I don't care, I'll go play with you, just don't be slow yeah, like don't don't take six hours like let's, let's get moving, but I don't care what you shoot, but what always happens to me is I'll have a you know several good holes and then I have somebody just fall apart on and then I think that was the last time we played or whatever. Then I finished, or last hole, next last, I birdied it and it's like all right, I'm ready to come back. I forgot everything.
Speaker 1:There's always that one shot in golf, you're like I'm never doing this again. You hit that and you're like, all right, I'm coming back it's the shot that brings you back every time well, but I mean, there's been times we've gone and played we'll be like three holes in and you're like one over and everybody else may be like three or four over, you know, depending on just bad shots or whatever else. And it's like you know it is there.
Speaker 2:It's through the 18.
Speaker 1:I always feel like nine is about enough. See, for me, most of the time, 18 is not enough. Like I want to keep going.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't care to play another nine, but let's like reset the score and like start over.
Speaker 1:Well, so there's a lot of people that look at it that way. Yeah, um, I've got a buddy on one of the the golf apps that I do. He literally plays nine stops, it starts a new round at the next nine. So he's like I've played nine at the back. Yeah, now I'm seeing a new score on the front and so he's still gonna have that total score, but he's like I only want to see this number.
Speaker 2:I think my my mind, capabilities or concentration capability or something it's the focus.
Speaker 1:The focus.
Speaker 2:I can't stay focused for that long. The time it seems like Cause, then I hit a bad shot. I'm like why, why did I do that? Well, cause, I'm 15 holes in.
Speaker 1:I'm done Like I don't. I'm not like super, super focused when we're just out having fun. If I'm really working on something, or like there's a part of my game that like I'm trying to improve, I may focus it on that part. But like if I'm like getting ready for a tournament whether it's, you know, a tournament we all go play in, or individual or whatever it's it's just different like you think about everything. Like I'm looking at which direction is the grass growing, which kind of where your wind is at, up above the trees, what's the wind looking like at the top?
Speaker 2:It's very, very different.
Speaker 1:So you really lock in and focus. And I was fortunate enough to go with a good buddy of ours this past summer who did US Open qualifying and caddied for him, and obviously it's tiring and I'm not really in great shape at the moment whatsoever, but it's tiring, carrying the bag, walking for 18 holes. Fortunately it wasn't a super up-and-down course, but mentally I didn't realize how tired I would be because you're talking through everything. We're talking through how many paces there and what's, what's the wind looking like and what kind of shot do we want to hit? And you know, are we wanting to land it here or what's, what's a good miss, being that you've done very different.
Speaker 2:Do you think at times that you can kind of overanalyze and it mess you up?
Speaker 1:I think it depends on the person, because some people love info, some people you can't get a bryson dechambeau yeah, you can't get enough info for him. Um. So like playing with isaac he's not a super huge info guy, so like we'd get to a couple things and it's just the conversation stops and at one point I can remember him saying like hey, I need you to talk to me. Mentally I just was so like drained. I was like yep, sorry, I'm here, like we're still good, yeah, and you just get so like out of it.
Speaker 2:But I bet if you could have stopped at like nine you'd have been okay. It was just the 18.
Speaker 1:Listen, it was Columbia in July.
Speaker 2:I needed to stop for oxygen at one point.
Speaker 1:It was just hot and we started with three guys and then dropped down to two. One guy claims he hurt his wrist. He was really just playing awful, but he.
Speaker 2:I did not play in that tournament. What are you?
Speaker 1:talking about my wrist doesn't hurt, but I mean, he was a D1 golfer, wasn't really playing very good that day and he actually ended up you know DQing, but I just remember thinking like this was like I didn't swing a club at all today, but mentally I am drained, just wore out.
Speaker 1:Also, I mean the sun too, and you know we didn't get there till like 3am to get in the hotel, and you know, obviously you know we're talking about doing it again next year potentially, and we're going to plan that a little bit better because, we. We should have been there early, we should have. You know it's taxing. You need to be physically in a certain way, but mentally it's very different.
Speaker 2:My favorite part of golfing is when you do get through nine, or maybe even when I started. Depends on what time we started. I want to get some food. I want to get a burger, a hot dog.
Speaker 1:There's this infamous burger you've talked about since we started playing golf. You're like, I got it this one time. It's the best burger I've ever eaten.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to tell you it doesn't exist. It may not exist now, but I was one of them that got it and it was amazing, and I got it actually two or three times, and I don't care what you say, it was good.
Speaker 1:I've never even seen them cooking food at that place, I don't know what I was about to tell you.
Speaker 1:Like it, just it blows my mind. And so that's the question. And I know I kind of was getting into tournament golf getting ready to start PGA. But one more question about that, about food at golf courses. Because my feeling on it, if you don't have food at the turn, I don't really care how nice of a course you are. You've let me down. You have, yeah, and I don't need like like a cold sandwich or just like a boiled hot dog. No, make something good. There's one course that we love going to that doesn't have food. They've got some snacks.
Speaker 2:They've got some snacks there, like crackers and some soft drinks, and every time I end up stopping at a store or somewhere getting a cold sandwich, I see. Typically you stop at the grocery store on the road and get a sub a foot long and I'll eat six inches, but then when I get to the turn, I got to pull out this cold sandwich. That's all soggy now and I'm like no.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's what I want to do. I'm going to go around to all the golf courses just to play them, just to try the food.
Speaker 1:Well, so that's one thing. As we get back into good weather, because obviously right now it's not good weather Obviously I want to play more golf. I love playing golf, I want to play more and, as you know, stuff out of for you golf. We get things a little more straightened up post hurricane and get that all kind of back together. Go play some more golf. So for me, I'm going to analyze the course. I want to talk about the different courses we go play.
Speaker 2:I know you want to talk about the food. I'll tell you if it's a nice course as far as it looks nice, because I don't care other than that and then how the food was well.
Speaker 1:So what I go back to? And we didn't get it at the turn, but we did get it after up in virginia, the course we played. Good food, really good food is really good food. Yeah, because I had a really good.
Speaker 2:So I want to ask you a question and I'm not asking you to say the name. Okay, do you know where the worst food is that we've ever ate? At a golf course, ooh.
Speaker 1:I don't know that I do. It involved a crock pot. Oh yep, Never mind.
Speaker 2:To me that's the worst food. All you had to say.
Speaker 1:I think it was the worst I've ever had to sit in there a while. Yeah, like you could see it in the water. Yeah, we had to serve ourself, had to make it ourself. That one was bad.
Speaker 2:You're right, I actually completely forgot about that now, if it was fresh it might have been good, I don't know, but that just didn't. I'd almost rather you not have food, I think boiled crockpot hot dog.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was, that was not. That was not a good look um, now the course is fine.
Speaker 2:We've played it a couple times. It's not great. I don't think it's a very nice course.
Speaker 1:It's not great, but many of of our buddies that are going to be listening. They know the exact course we're talking about, so I'm not really going to say much about it. Um, because there's one I don't think it's a horrible course, or I have no I don't think it's a horrible course I I have no issue with the people or nothing. I don't like the layout because there's several things that it's like, hey, you're not allowed to aim here. It's like, okay, don't build a course that way yeah.
Speaker 1:You're like, hey, you can't hit over the apartments because you might hit it.
Speaker 2:Well, don't make it turn that way. Why'd you put the hole behind the apartment building?
Speaker 1:It's a 260-yard hole. I 60 yard hole. Like I want to go for the green. Yeah, like it's not that hard of a shot if I can go straight at it, but you have to make you go down here and go back up and yeah, so I don't like that. And there's another hole that I don't like that. The t-box is a turf mat. Oh, that's right, I forget me grass. Yeah, like I'm on a golf course, is it because of where that is.
Speaker 2:It's hard to it doesn't grow grass to grow there.
Speaker 1:It doesn't grow well but there's got to be some hydro seating or something they could have done to me, because they're not the only place in the country that has a problem like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you can make it grow yeah, you just gotta make it really expensive or something, I don't know which, again, it's not a super expensive course.
Speaker 1:I would still go play there again. So I'm I'm not saying that, um, they're not super far, you know down the road, none of that kind of stuff, but it's just not my favorite. And again, for me I'm not. You know, bougie, when it comes to a golf course, I don't need you know PGA level quality, I just want it to be, you know, decent shape, decent shape Like.
Speaker 2:I don't understand.
Speaker 1:And again, that doesn't mean it's gotta to be expensive either. I mean one of the courses we go to quite a bit, you know, after two o'clock, even in the summer, it's like 20 bucks oh and I love it and there's times that that course is actually in really good shape. Now there's times it's not.
Speaker 2:There's times, but it's the one that don't have food. If they had food, I don't know that I'd ever go anywhere else if it was decent food I.
Speaker 1:I could probably see that if they made you a decent burger or something on the turn, you'd never go anywhere else.
Speaker 2:That's what we did. Over here close by my house Got a burger One day. We was playing golf. You've been like 100 times since, and I went back several times over the next month and got it for dinner.
Speaker 1:So good news about that. They're supposedly changing their name.
Speaker 2:I heard that they were changing it a little bit and they're revamping it coming up.
Speaker 1:I mean so you'll, you'll like that. Um, it's too. Yeah, I don't have one close to my house that I would, which again here in our town we don't really have golf we don't have like.
Speaker 2:Of course, we have for you golf.
Speaker 1:That's all you need come on, I I agree, but like when you, when you like, when you actually go play on a course, there is one course that's public in transvainty, county one. Yeah, you're right, other than the par three, sorry, we do have the par, the par three.
Speaker 2:No, but you mean full course yeah.
Speaker 1:But full size course, there's one.
Speaker 2:No, the par three is a nice course, but you can't really get a driver out.
Speaker 1:It's not bad.
Speaker 2:I mean it's a little different. It depends on who you are.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, maybe, well, you could probably hit a driver.
Speaker 2:Oh, I only say that because he was to start rating courses on food I don't care about.
Speaker 1:That's the that's the plan you're. I'm gonna let you start talking about the food. I'll talk about the course. You talk about the food.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna make you play some horrible courses just because I got good food you're telling me to play more golf. Sign me up, I don't mind you might not like the course, but. But. But all seriousness aside, our sponsor we're never serious, so all jokes aside that's really wrong.
Speaker 2:I know seriously, all seriousness aside, at this place, but for you golf being our, our main sponsor, oh, absolutely, um, I want to ask you cause you know so those don't know we own for you golf about a few years ago, starting back there, yep, so we're, we might be a little biased. Now what's crazy is, sometimes we're a little harder on the place than others, because we see every little thing. Yeah, um so, as you're kind, of more of a golfer me.
Speaker 2:I couldn't even tell you last time I hit a ball out there. What is your number one favorite thing about for you, golf? That, as a golfer, you're like I love this um and and again.
Speaker 1:Obviously we are biased. We own it, you know it's. I could sit here, you know, try to sell you on it, but that's that's where I'm not.
Speaker 2:I'm not trying to go there, I'm trying to go with Even as being an owner like what is the one thing you're like?
Speaker 1:I love that we have that here for golfers or whatever it is. Well, it's not I'm, it'd be so cool to own, and you know, obviously you know one day we did yeah, but hitting balls into an open field it kind of gets boring, like it's just, and again for a golfer practicing like you don't really care necessarily about that, but you know, depending on how the weather is, the sun is whatever, I can't see where, exactly where it lands, like if I'm trying to go and say I need to figure out what my distances are.
Speaker 1:If I'm a tournament golfer, don't have access to you know, attract me and don't have access to some of the really really high end stuff, and I need to know what my distances are, I'm kind of guessing. If I don't have something telling me, top tracer, I don't have to worry about it, top tracer, I go hit it. It's going to tell me what my carry distance is, what it rolled to.
Speaker 2:Well, that's you're listing everything you know with um kind of practicing, getting your distance all that well so, but that's. I love the, the modes of being able to play games and play courses on it, because I'm not so into golf that I'm out there just practicing all the time, right, but that's kind of where I'm going with.
Speaker 1:That, though, is like I get to do that, but at the same time I can play golf courses on it. Yeah, I can do that's what I enjoy when I do like I said again, I really want to make sure this gets out there. Huge shout out to brett woodbury with mountain brushworks yes, who has been awesome, awesome, awesome sponsor of some. Basically twice a month, every two weeks, the Close to the Pin contest Close to the Pin.
Speaker 2:He gave some good prizes, so $200 to a hole-in-one $50 to the closest Close to the Pin.
Speaker 1:So if you don't get a hole-in-one that month, you basically have one winner. If you have a hole-in-one, he still gives the next closest that $50. And it's been really, really cool. We've had some great involvement with that, had a lot of fun, several hole-in-ones, yeah.
Speaker 2:So definitely if you're local and you need some painting. Commercial residential is the one.
Speaker 1:Please call Brett. His crew is actually really good. They've got a lot of business and doing really really well. And I know at one point this last year he's like if I don't hire another crew, I got to turn it down and he doesn't want to do that. So please, you know, give him a call if you need, whether it's commercial, residential, whatever, he can take care of it. But again, I love the close to the pin stuff, not even necessarily always trying to get it super, super close, but just working on getting the hit to a green. Or you know, some days we've goofed off and done long drive stuff. You know we may say, all right, we'll grab your nine iron, let's see you and hit it farthest. So you know, just stupid stuff like that, like it gets you out of. I've just got a out of driving range. A lot of it's just practice, but when you can get on that stuff and play all the games and all the fun stuff.
Speaker 2:Then it's got the games for the kids, or they just had an angry bird noah's played Birds like crazy.
Speaker 1:They had the fishing game he loved it, loved it, loved it, and it's really actually a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, some of that stuff just really changes it and obviously you know we have this at 4U Golf. If you're local, please come down check it out, but if you're not in our area, like and and, it's for those.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you this both as owner and as a little bit selling it. Good luck, because there's not many around, many no there's there's really not one within two hours of us um. There's a couple of private courses.
Speaker 2:No, when we talked about doing it, we had to drive two hours away to even try.
Speaker 1:We did to go test it out, um, so there, so we really don't have a lot of other places to go do it and, honestly, if you're curious, come talk to me. I'll give you a free basket. Please come try it out and if you have questions, let me know. I mean, this past summer, we hosted an individual tournament. We gave away a brand new driver to the winner and we've got bigger and better prizes. That we're hoping to do this year, so we'd love to see it and, honestly, we're talking about hosting a two-man scramble event coming up, which will be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:That's what I want. I want more people to come out and have fun with it, but that's the whole point We've done with it. Let's have fun with golf.
Speaker 1:Golf needs to be fun with any sport.
Speaker 2:It's got to be fun or you're not going to stick with it. Part of the community and help people and give them a place to come and family friendly fun, yeah, and that's what we're all about.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, um, we've got people to bring their dogs out. Bring them just. I mean, I want them to be friendly dogs, don't don't bring out your you're, you know crazy, crazy dogs.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I mean one of the local football coaches from the college. He's out there with his dog all the time, dogs just having a having a blast. I bring my dog out there, let him have a good time. So we, you know, we love to see that kind of stuff, so and we're looking to host a bunch more events this summer or, excuse me this, this coming year, sorry, 2025. So, really, you know, follow us social media stuff. You know we're gonna be putting a lot out there and kind of see where it goes. So, yeah, so, but Golf Sorry, I had to go back to it real quick. Okay, tournament golf starting World number one, scotty Scheffler has withdrew from the first tournament, possibly the first two. Really, I didn't see that On Christmas he cut his hand On some glass. Oh no, has to have surgery On some glass. Oh no, has to have surgery to remove the glass Is it going to change his?
Speaker 1:game Out at least four weeks, Wait a minute to remove the glass. So there was some little particles and stuff that still was in there. They got a lot of it cleaned but couldn't get all the stuff and had to repair some stuff. I haven't seen pictures or anything, I don't know what the glass was? Was it a gift? I don't know. There's a lot of angry people at you right now, but world number one golfer Scotty Scheffler is going to be out Probably the first two, maybe longer tournaments.
Speaker 2:Is it going to fake his?
Speaker 1:game? That's what I'm wondering. He had such a huge year last year. I'm like I don't want it to end, so I'm curious. So Scotty Scheffler Cut his hand. Victor Hovland, another top ten golfer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know it's getting late. Listen, you've been making fun of me all night.
Speaker 1:I gotta find something I know and I can't speak. I'm an idiot. Um broke his toe on a bed. Oh my goodness, apparently hit hit the corner of it I've done that before. I never broke his toe so he's out for a little bit too. So it's like we're just getting the year started, getting ready for a little bit too. So it's like we're just getting the year started, getting ready to get the year started, and it's off with it or any of these supposed to play in the, the new indoor thing?
Speaker 2:uh, because that'd be bad too. Is scotty in the indoor?
Speaker 1:I'm not sure, I'm not sure. Maybe they've got an alternate or something.
Speaker 2:Um, because he's out of texas, I know some of those texas guys are definitely playing in it, so I really don't know now I gotta apologize to you, nobody else but my throat tonight that this cough I just cannot seem to get rid of. I'm using my uh, my silencer here, but you still got to put up with me, so all right, listen, I gotta put up with a lot, so that's.
Speaker 1:That's a whole different story um, yeah, but I mean I think, yeah, that was a lot, uh.
Speaker 2:Happy new Year to everybody. Happy New Year. This is going to come out somewhere around that time I don't know when.
Speaker 1:It'll probably release on the 2nd. We'll be out on the 2nd. Thursday is going to be kind of the typical upload day. We'll have it up for you on January 2nd 2025.
Speaker 2:Weird to say I'll be right and wrong forever. Let's go ahead and get that new year's resolution to listen to more, not amused. That's what we'll do.
Speaker 1:That's the one you're not allowed to fail.
Speaker 2:Yeah, every way you have.
Speaker 1:you have to pick that up, um, but again, thank thanks everybody. With the support already you know we're hoping that it gets better week by week.
Speaker 2:We've been talking to some local experts about coming on with us. We did call him an expert today I said yeah, if we could do a podcast. You're an expert.
Speaker 1:So yeah, again, we're hoping to have. I've actually had about five people so far say hey, I want to be a guest, so we'll start getting some stuff. You get a mic out. A lot of people want to talk, that's true. So so we do have one rule for guests coming up you have to bring at least one topic. You have to be an expert at something I'm only bringing experts on. You have to be an expert at something. Listen, there's one I know that's asked to be on it. He's going to claim to be an expert at everything.
Speaker 2:So we can't do that. You've got to be an expert at least one thing.
Speaker 1:You've got to bring something. Pretty topic.
Speaker 2:I don't care what it is, you got to have some knowledge about it but just something kind of random yeah something off the wall, you know, something fun hey if you've got a cool spot, we may just come to you yeah, and that's something we're actually talking about doing some on location stuff coming up.
Speaker 1:so if you've got a spot you want us to come record at, by all means let us know. We'd love to do it. But again, appreciate everybody all the support. Happy New Year and we'll see you again soon. Thank you, everybody.