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Lawn Antics, Playoff Predictions, and Seasonal Screen Time

Not Emu-sed Episode 5

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Ever tried parking on a friend's lawn while trying to pull off the perfect drop-off, only to be left with a story that leaves everyone laughing? Join us as David and Tyler navigate through hilarious holiday mishaps and unexpected warm December days in Western North Carolina. We balance our festive duties with outdoor escapades, hitting the golf course under the sun while Christmas preparations are in full swing. Our banter dives headfirst into a late-night car rescue that transformed into a tale of camaraderie and laughter, setting the tone for an episode filled with relatable antics and holiday spirit.

Switching gears to the electrifying world of college football, we tackle predictions and analysis for the playoffs. The pressure's on for teams like Ohio State as they face off against Tennessee, and we can't help but debate the outcomes of epic matchups like Clemson vs. Texas and SMU vs. Penn State. With a mix of expert insights and friendly banter, we explore everything from the running games to the impact of cold weather on southern teams. As the playoffs heat up, the dynamic between recruitment and player development has us pondering the future of college football.

And what’s a December without a nod to classic Christmas movies? We wrap up with a playful discussion on curating the ultimate Christmas movie bracket, inspired by our love for sports. From the timeless "It's A Wonderful Life" to the comedic antics of "Elf," our holiday spirit shines through as we debate the merits of different adaptations and share personal connections to these beloved films. Whether it’s the laugh-out-loud moments from "National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation" or the heartwarming nostalgia of "Miracle on 34th Street," we revel in the festive season's joy and share our love for both sports and entertainment.

Speaker 1:

all right, welcome back everybody. We're uh on to another week. A bunch of stuff to talk about um david and tyler here again for Not Amused Podcast, proudly sponsored by 4U Golf. So here we are, week five, I think it is.

Speaker 2:

We're getting so many I can't keep track. So that's a good thing, it's a week five.

Speaker 1:

We are a week away from Christmas. Christmas is literally a week from today and also, on that note, it was 68 degrees today.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I loved it, though it was, and also on that note, it was 68 degrees today.

Speaker 1:

oh, I loved it, though it's just. I was outside and it was 68 degrees.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I actually had to go out to lowes for a little bit and I had t-shirt, shorts and uh, flip-flops on, so it was pretty awesome well, I mean, we we have a buddy that's flip-flops year round, so he doesn't really care.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, today was one of those days you walk out with with like a light pullover on yeah it came off quick. I mean, I was in t-shirt and I was sweating like crazy, working and I mean I was outside in that attire putting up christmas lights, right. So I was like, right, this felt kind of weird, but yeah I mean, we're not in florida, we're, we're in western north carolina, so like for it to be this warm.

Speaker 1:

I say this late, I mean really, we're not even to winter for another few days we're not but still where we had such a cold spell a few weeks ago where it was 15 degrees and we had snow but that was three weeks ago, we had snow I I hate cold weather oh, I do too. I don't get wrong. Don't take this as complaining. I'm not complaining at all, because I hate the yeah, it makes me just want to hibernate.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, depression comes along. It's just nothing done, like you're just like I need the sun.

Speaker 1:

I need People, just like that.

Speaker 2:

I don't know how they do it. Everybody says, oh, you can put jackets on, you can this.

Speaker 1:

Send them to Siberia. They don't need to be here. I don't care. No, I will sweat all day long out in summer. I Would you rather be 100 degrees all the time, or would you rather be?

Speaker 2:

20 degrees all the time, let's go, I'm picking 100.

Speaker 1:

100. Well, they're like well, you can only take so much off. You're right, I'll sweat, I don't care, there's water.

Speaker 2:

I'm fine with that.

Speaker 1:

There's swimming pools. What do you think we went to Florida?

Speaker 2:

We're playing golf and we're the only people on the course, because we're the only ones dumb enough to go for a 1 o'clock tee time. Don't get me wrong it was hot. It's hot. I'm not playing golf when it's below 40, though You're not playing golf when it's below 50. What are you talking about? I got to be able to put it on shorts, or I don't want to go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was going to say you're shorts. Only that's true.

Speaker 2:

I don't really. If I've ever been on a golf course that wasn't windy, um, to an extent like it's wide open usually, yeah so we get a lot of wind, but it's I'm really just more thinking like if it's cold and windy yeah like I can't do the combination I can do one of the other I've never had to, because if it's cold I ain't going. Anyways, it don't matter.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's half the time if it's if I look at the weather and it's like you know, we may play about 10 o'clock, you know, not too early, not too late. If it hasn't got to a certain temperature, I don't even ask, no, I just I'm like, well, I'll go or I'll find somebody else to go with, like, because I know, I just know, you know, typically, it's, I know you. If I'm like ah, it's 48, that's pretty good to go. It's like that's borderline for him.

Speaker 2:

I don't think he's going to make it. Well, yeah, so we got a lot to talk about this week. I feel like every week there's new stuff and sometimes I'm like man, what are we going to talk about?

Speaker 1:

And lo and behold, stuff just happens, whether it's in sports or whatever, a lot of stuff happens that before I didn't have an outlet to talk about it. So it was kind of like I'd have these things and I'd just kind of mention it to my wife and it's like, man, that's too good of a topic. I want to keep going with that, because there's only so much you can talk about it with one individual.

Speaker 2:

Well, I know we'll get into college football playoffs. It starts this weekend. We'll get into that bracket.

Speaker 1:

We've got a more important bracket that everybody's going to care more about this bracket's way more important, so we'll talk about that probably after college football.

Speaker 2:

So hang with us a little bit and you'll get into the real bracket that everybody really wants to talk about. But I've got a story.

Speaker 1:

Oh gosh here we go, I Um, but but I, I got a story, oh gosh here we go.

Speaker 2:

I got to tell him myself a little bit yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I do know the story. I'm excited for the story because I've made plenty of jokes over the past week.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh, I can't believe I've done it. Um, I can.

Speaker 1:

I think it's hilarious. Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'm not going to get too Long story short. We had a friend had some car issues. Late at night I texted him he was needing a ride. I said, yeah, I'll come get you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So Out of the kindness of your heart, you went and helped him out.

Speaker 2:

I did. I wasn't going to go to bed and knowing they needed help, so I went and done that and bringing them home and I've never been to their house.

Speaker 1:

Right, and you have, so you know the layout okay.

Speaker 2:

So it's a small kind of one-way street. I say one way, it's not very wide, yeah it's, it's two ways.

Speaker 1:

But it's hard to fit two cars. Yeah, that's what I mean.

Speaker 2:

It's a tight road, yeah so we pull on the the street there and he says, yeah, it's the house down there behind the sign and oh, the one right there. Yep, yep, that's it. So I go pulling up to it and I'm kind of looking for the driveway and this is early morning at this point.

Speaker 1:

Okay yeah, I mean, you know what? Listen, I was asleep at that point I was gonna try to stay up and, like you know text, you make sure you're good. Everything.

Speaker 2:

I was like no, I'm out, I can't make it it was early morning and I didn't feel that tired, I mean I felt okay yeah, but it's frosty on the on the ground and everything's kind of glistening, and so I'm pulling up and I'm going real slow and he and then and him and his wife both are in the car and and nobody ever says, okay, yeah, pull in here, whatever. And I'm just kind of like, okay, where do I pull in? And I see, as I'm kind of passing the front of the house, this like drive area right in front of their house, okay, and there's a walkway in the middle and I'm like, oh right, here it is. And I whip it in real quick and I'm like, man, I hope I didn't drive up on their walkway, because their walkway's right there. And, man, I hope I didn't hit it. Oh, you didn't hit the walkway.

Speaker 1:

Well, maybe I? I think you straddled it.

Speaker 2:

No, I didn't, I was over a little more of the walkway. But so they get out of the car or whatever and oh yeah, see you later, whatever. And I back up and I roll my window down as I'm backing up and I look down and it's their front yard.

Speaker 1:

I wasn't in a driveway. Well, you made the comment. They didn't tell you to pull in here because you hadn't made it to the driveway yet. They didn't tell you because we weren't there.

Speaker 2:

So apparently the driveway was just past the house and I didn't see that. Again, it's early morning, Everything's dark.

Speaker 1:

I don't know the area very well, there has been many texts back and forth whether it was on. Instagram, whether it was just texts, just laughing about this, Because it's one of those like is it a big deal? Absolutely not. It's really not that big a deal. I felt terrible, though you feel worse about it than it really is.

Speaker 2:

When I'm backing up and I realize it, and again I'm starting to back up and I'm going all right, let's stay off the walkway. And I think I wrote my window down to make sure I didn't get up on their walkway.

Speaker 1:

And that's when I realized think, okay, I'm about to pass it up.

Speaker 2:

I better whip it in here real quick. And so I go to back up and I yell hey, um, I just realized I'm in your grass, you know so well.

Speaker 1:

so when I, when I was texting him back and forth it was not even the fact that you necessarily pulled in the grass, it was was like you almost were not I won't say confused, but just kind of lost for a minute.

Speaker 2:

It was like I was lost for a minute.

Speaker 1:

It went from just kind of cruising down the road to literally just this aggressive whip into the middle of the front, yulker, because I thought I was passing the drive up.

Speaker 2:

Well, so so that's why I done it.

Speaker 1:

So the joke that I told him I was like well, you know, you would hit the limit on the meter. So like he had to stop there, so he would just whip it in here and walk Like you didn't have much option, that's all you paid for.

Speaker 2:

You got to stop right here, yeah, exactly. So like and where that pulls out. I mean, I was right up to their front porch kind of there, because I was trying to get up oh yeah, you were to the steps really tired and had car trouble, so I was trying to get them like front row, like just get out and walk up, like they're there I didn't want to have to do any extra walking.

Speaker 2:

If you'd have pulled sideways, they could open the door and literally stepped onto the steps oh, I might as well at that point exactly uh, but yeah, I was so worried about getting on the walkway and here I was in the middle of the grass, so um I haven't seen it yet. I want to drive by because he says, oh, it didn't hurt it. But I'm sure he's not going to tell me if it did well.

Speaker 1:

What's what's funnier about it, too, is like he, he loves you know, working out in the yard. I know that's what I feel has the pictures of you know it looking really good and he takes really good care of it, yeah, so then it's funny because it's you know, you're gonna have these big track marks of your big truck you know, just right in the front he said you couldn't see.

Speaker 2:

Like I said, I'm gonna go look, I should have showed up the next day with a rake and stuff and listen.

Speaker 1:

I may have ruined it, but I got some, some saccharine on the way.

Speaker 2:

We'll just go ahead and make this a. Let's just make this a driveway. So the next time I have to pull in here, I'll just have my own party spot and, to be fair, at my house, my driveway kind of is that way it's more of like a parking area and it just goes right up to the house and kind of real close to my steps.

Speaker 1:

So again, because your house is that way everyone should be well, no, but I I didn't see the driveway at that time of day. Maybe it was that way at that point.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, at that time of day it was okay, that's that's it. But again I felt terrible. So if you're listening, I still apologize. I will come help you fix it if I need to. Uh, I know he texts me. He's like you can't pick me up and you can do donuts in my yard.

Speaker 1:

I don't care, right right, yeah, at that point you don't care, because he made it.

Speaker 2:

you know he just had to be home because I know they're at one point you know talking about hotel and all that and it's like no, just let Um you know good to do it.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, that's, that's funny on me. I I've, I've laughed about it pretty much since it happened, because it's again. Is it a huge deal? No, but it was just such a like. Of course that happened.

Speaker 2:

Like everything that was happening that night.

Speaker 1:

It was like of course that happened.

Speaker 2:

I came home my wife had kind of woke up, she had knew I came home and and I said I have a funny story to tell you and she just died laughing.

Speaker 1:

Well, of course you know you're that tired too, You're going to laugh even more. Oh, I know, Because it's just, you can't control the emotion at that point.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and this was no, you know, in her mind. I talked to my wife about the next day and she said, oh yeah, maybe tell me a story. And she said, how'd it happen? And so I kind of drew a little like diagram on the kitchen table, I think, of how that happened.

Speaker 1:

She's like oh, she made a scale model, yeah kind of because she didn't quite.

Speaker 2:

You know, she hasn't, she doesn't know where he lives and she's like she started cracking up. She said I thought you just kind of pulled off the road.

Speaker 1:

I said no, I went no, like you didn't just like drop a tire onto it, you literally turned into the house. I went you know, bumper to the front porch in the yard you were trying to get them there. I get it.

Speaker 2:

I get it I mean, we pull up and they're getting out. They're like oh, thank you. I said hey, you know you need any help getting stuff out.

Speaker 1:

No, no, and they're both getting out and nobody said a word I don't think at that point they cared when they saw my so much that when they saw my steering wheel turn. They should have been whoa, whoa, whoa I don't even know that you would have time to think about at that point, because it was literally just, you know, whip it in there.

Speaker 2:

I did it last minute too, because I thought I was passing it up. I legitimately thought I was passing up where I need to now here.

Speaker 1:

Here's the thing. At least it was his yard.

Speaker 2:

You did that too oh man, because if it's in the neighbor's house that you do that too.

Speaker 1:

And he's like why did you just run over my neighbor's azaleas?

Speaker 2:

like Like what are you doing? That probably would have been more funny. No, it would have been. I wonder if any neighbor was like kind of up, you know, using the bathroom in the middle of the night and they look out the window like who is parked in this front yard?

Speaker 1:

All kinds of people just showing up at this house Like what's going on here?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Funnier, especially knowing who exactly, exactly you, just you know, middle of the night they've got visitors and I uh, yeah, that's after all that I tried to do a good deed and then drove in his yard but then you ruined his yard.

Speaker 1:

I know, I know I feel terrible about it.

Speaker 2:

There's plenty going on without that I'm gonna laugh about it forever, as we all are every time we see each other.

Speaker 1:

We're probably gonna laugh about it, and um, maybe, I mean maybe for christmas, we get him like some grass seed or something. Oh, that's a's a good idea. You know some, some, uh, scott's turf, you know stuff, we'll just. We'll just, you know, take care of his grass at this point.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to send a concrete truck over and be like, yeah, we're supposed to pour this right.

Speaker 1:

You don't need yard, we'll just put concrete on the whole thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we don't need that.

Speaker 1:

So anyways, it laugh about probably forever, because it's just that type of situation um, we've told some other stories in the past with the.

Speaker 2:

You know, last week we talked about the ping pong table.

Speaker 1:

This is going to be up there with gosh, yeah, so so far you're the common denominator boy. Yeah, think about that, think about that, right there uh, you know, I can't do everything perfect, or? Anything you know. Um, all right, so I want to kind of move in just real quick. I say real quick, but we'll kind of stick on it for a minute into a couple of college football things because, like we said, we've got our much more important bracket to deal with that.

Speaker 1:

We'll probably kind of end the show with, because it's going to take a little bit of time. Yeah, so a couple things happened. Obviously, we've got our full bracket Games start Friday and Saturday A little confused. We only have one game Friday, notre Dame-Indiana. I'm not sure why we didn't just play all four games on Saturday, or two and two. It's a little bit weird. It's kind of like, eh, that's not as important.

Speaker 2:

I was going to say, was that the game they don't care about? It's.

Speaker 1:

Notre Dame-Indiana. I mean, I think that's actually one of those, was it? Set already, like beforehand, like that game so they had the schedule set that it was going to be Friday-Saturday games, I was kind of under the impression kind of like they do March Madness, when you get into some of your later rounds, half on one night, half on the other.

Speaker 2:

So then you just fill both of them and it's not like kind of too much at once Because, honestly, saturday there's three playoff games you know back to back to back, like it's going to be a long day, yeah, and I get that It'd be hard to put the fourth there, but I'm like you probably could do two and two Now, I don't know, on Friday you probably don't want to start one before 738.

Speaker 1:

And I don't know what time that game starts, but somewhere in that neighborhood play them at same time.

Speaker 2:

They don't want that because they're gonna lose ratings. Look how many.

Speaker 1:

You've done that with bowl games in the past well, they have not really any different, they have.

Speaker 2:

I think so to me.

Speaker 1:

I'm just kind of it feels weird that that's the game, because it's kind of, in a way, two teams that people are like I don't know if they really should be there or not which is kind of funny.

Speaker 1:

I don't care if they overlap a little bit, but I wouldn't want two going on at the exact same time no, I think you could could stagger them a little bit to where it's you know, half time when the other one starts, and you can kind of really see both of them and view everything. Yep, um, but so that's you know. Just thought that was a little bit interesting that Notre Dame is well, and that game is the what.

Speaker 2:

Uh, yeah, 7-10 seed.

Speaker 1:

Yes, so that one if Indiana wins, is that really an upset? Does that feel like much of an upset that close?

Speaker 2:

I said this. I don't know if last episode or the one before. College football has been weird to me this year and I kind of don't like it because I want there to be yeah, definitives.

Speaker 1:

I want to be able to look at this bracket and be like yeah, a couple of these they're going.

Speaker 2:

I would not be surprised at any wins in this first round or, honestly, in the whole thing. I have some idea who I think are the favorites, but even the favorites have showed weaknesses this past season.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so twofold question here Go through the four games this week, give me who you think and then afterwards give me who you think is the who's going to win it all, because we've talked about that a little bit in the past, but we haven't really just said no. I think it's going to be this.

Speaker 2:

Well, I can promise you this I'm going to pick out of the second round so at least they won't lose in the first round. And then I feel stupid that I picked them out. Yeah, okay, that's fair the first round, and then I feel stupid that I picked him out. Yeah, okay, that's fair. No, so so okay, yeah, let's do this.

Speaker 1:

So uh, clemson at texas correct, which I think has potential to be a good game I'm not going to be surprised either way, but I do think texas wins.

Speaker 2:

What do you think?

Speaker 1:

so I'm I'm on board with that and this is the game we kind of were talking about beforehand that I said I think I know who's going to win, or I have a feeling of who I think will win, unless something happens. Okay, what's that? Caveat, um clemson defensive line historically is very, very good okay, I agree with it quinn ewers this year has not done great against a ton of pressure, ie both georgia games. Georgia knows how to pressure him well, if clemson can pressure him, I think they have a shot.

Speaker 2:

So Clemson needs to dial up some pressure If Clemson dials up some pressure and they really get after him.

Speaker 1:

I think they could pull it out. And I also kind of have to go back on a word, because earlier this year I said I don't think a three-loss team makes it in and Clemson was like nope, watch me. Watch me do it, they did yeah, and it boils down to they won the ACC.

Speaker 2:

Well, but it goes back to what their schedule was to get to the ACC.

Speaker 1:

Correct, partly Correct, so they lost that very last week to a really good South Carolina team. They did yeah. So that was their third loss. You know conference.

Speaker 1:

But not a conference loss, one loss, I believe, something like that. So yeah, they did squeak in. Obviously it was the 12 seed. It's tough going to Texas, that's a tough stadium to play in and again, it's the first time we're going to see a 12-5. So this year I don't know if anything really feels like much of an upset, you know, unless maybe like an SMU was to go win it all.

Speaker 2:

Maybe it feels like a little upset.

Speaker 1:

I don't feel like these are going to be as big of feeling upsets like you have in in college basketball, because you kind of see the difference in a 5 and a 12 in basketball, I think, more than you do in this football. Well, but, like we've said, with that too you have such a bigger sample size. Yes, like, like basketball, it's 30 game.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's a 5 12. Well, you have four fives. You have have four of each seed, Correct? So you know that 5-12 is really spread out way more than just the seven spots.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I mean your five could potentially have maybe six, seven losses on the season where a 12 could have you know 13. Exactly, just depending on how everything happens.

Speaker 2:

Yeah so you're not getting that in this, so I can see that for sure.

Speaker 1:

And then I want to jump down to just going by seating, okay, the 11-6 smu at penn state. I think penn state takes care of them easily. I think it's gonna be cold. Yes, I mean it beaver stadium in december is gonna be very, very cold, smu being a dallas team, not that, you know, they don't travel and play some places, but this is another one of those, but not this late in the year normally. No, not typically. Well, typically, smu isn't playing this late in the year.

Speaker 1:

This is late for them, unless you go back to the 80s. They were really good back in the 80s. I do think SMU can score some points but I do think Penn State's defense is really good. Can score some points, but I do think Penn State's defense is really good. Penn State, to me, is one of those teams that can be really dangerous because if they get their offense going and they just start scoring a bunch of points which they struggled on a couple other big games this year with scoring points especially us being Buckeyes fans they had zero offensive touchdowns in that Ohio State game they had a pick six, I believe.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's what. Like you said, I think the defense is going to be a big part. I could see it being a low-scoring game, partly because of the cold. Like you said, I think it would be a huge advantage. It's not going to be easy to throw the ball around. No, but the SMU games that I've watched.

Speaker 1:

You can run on them. It feels like you can run a lot on them, and I think Penn State will be more than happy to say stop it, Just run it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm going to run it down your throat, like I said, especially if you're cold.

Speaker 1:

We're going to play Big Ten football and we're going to run it down your throat and stop me, and stop me. Yeah, don't get me wrong. Smu's got some athletes. They're fast, but when you run right at somebody, speed means nothing. That's how you kind of take it away.

Speaker 2:

I agree with that.

Speaker 1:

So I do think I agree. I think Penn State's going to win Selfishly. I would like SMU to win. To me it's just.

Speaker 2:

See, I'm in that state again where I want to see some teams be better. I love the upsets.

Speaker 1:

I mean I just do. I love to see. You know it's kind of the underdog story at that point because SMU, especially after losing to ACC half the people are saying they should be here.

Speaker 2:

That might be the only team that I would consider an upset, if they keep winning. Even if they win the first one, these others, it won't surprise me if anybody we just talked about that Clemson game it won't surprise me at all.

Speaker 1:

No, but me, if anybody. We just talked about that clemson game won't surprise me at all. No, but historically those have been really good teams. I mean clemson won a national championship.

Speaker 2:

I agree, that's what I'm saying. I feel like smu is really the only underdog cinderella story that could happen out of this.

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean even even uh boise state being in this. They've been good for years. At this point, yeah, like they've had a couple of down years here and there, but they've, they've been top ranked. I mean they've got to buy.

Speaker 2:

at this point it's hard to say your say the Rello story at that point.

Speaker 1:

No, but I'm just saying like as far as they've been good for many years. So it's not like we're really surprised that they're there, like it was kind of for several years. If they would have expanded it they'd have probably been in it multiple times. So it's really not that surprising. Yeah, you know that's obviously. But then we go to the 10-7. 10-7. That's the Friday night game Indiana-Notre Dame. This one, for me, is really tough to pick because I think it's a crapshoot.

Speaker 2:

I think either team could easily win this. Again, I'm not surprised which any of these teams will win it, because I've said that several times now. But I don't believe in Indiana. Still Notre Dame, I think, wins it, no problem.

Speaker 1:

I've taken indiana, okay, I, I really, I really have thought about this one a bunch and it's, I think they're very well coached, I think they are going to be ready. You know, you know we may talk about this friday and they give you by 40 and it's like, yeah, they were really ready yeah, but I I really do. I think he's a really good coach mentioned the weather.

Speaker 2:

That's not going to play a part in this game because they're both from that area they're both northern.

Speaker 1:

You know more northern teams, you know it's, it's uh, really, you should have a pretty good turnout for both teams because it's pretty close to each other say I don't know that anybody gets a home field advantage in that game. I mean yes, you're at notre dame, but I mean, yeah, indiana is not a far travel for this, so I think they're going to fill it.

Speaker 2:

Indiana football hasn't been this good in a very long time. If ever I bet those fans find a way to get in. Oh I would. It's right there, close to home, if I'm an Indiana fan that lives up there near the school.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm going.

Speaker 2:

You're going to find a way to get in.

Speaker 1:

Especially for this one. If you're saying, well, we're going to the car and go to that one. It might be a once-in-a-lifetime thing, Especially if they win.

Speaker 1:

Who knows, if they well honestly for any of these teams because the way this is shaped out and the way, like the SEC was, and everybody's beating each other up, it may be a while before you make it again, could be, and it may be even longer before you host again, because even then, like your bye week teams, they're not hosting, you know. So it's really just these four teams are hosting, so it's a little bit different. Still blows my mind. But yeah, that's a, that's a whole another topic we may go into that.

Speaker 2:

Maybe at the end of everything well, let's get to the game that we're fans of, buckeyes football. So yeah, eight nine wow state versus tennessee in columbus. So weather could play a part. Knoxville's not that far south, but they're not getting the weather that Columbus gets. So who you got.

Speaker 1:

So obviously I'm a Buckeyes fan. I'm going to cheer for them One million percent, but I don't think they win. Okay, I don't think they're playing very well right now. They're not. I don't think we are peaking at the right time, and not even just talking about the Michigan loss. Really, for the past few weeks they've not looked great. They've not played a bunch of good teams, but they've not just looked like the dominant force. When they played Oregon early in the year it was a good ballgame. It was a little higher scoring than I would like it to be, but I felt like they were playing much better Right now the past two games, offense has not looked good.

Speaker 2:

No, Even when they beat Indiana, it was on punt return.

Speaker 1:

No, they scored a bunch of points but it wasn't just the offense running it up and there's too many weapons. Again, I've said it, $20 million in NIL on that team. The fact that they have two losses blows my mind, and two losses like the one loss I getregon, one point at oregon. I can kind of make sense of that one.

Speaker 2:

well, and they're not just a you know smaller school that threw a bunch of money. You're talking about ohio state football. Who?

Speaker 2:

was already good, like it's supposed to be a really good the level that it already has been over the years and then put 20 million dollars in it. Correct should be top notch. Um, I have struggled with this one and I've thought about it. Thought about it yesterday and I went back and forth okay, yeah, I think tennessee's gonna beat them house. It's not playing good. Back and forth, I'm gonna live here and say buckeyes win. And here's what. Okay, brian day is back is against the wall. Well, so did you.

Speaker 1:

Now or never did you see, after the mission game, everybody's like, oh, we've got to find out. We're going to ask the higher-ups what is their thoughts on it and one of the first reports I saw come out it was like nope, he's our guy and I'm like that doesn't even feel real.

Speaker 1:

It just feels so fake. Well, the one that I actually saw that it was from I don't think it was athletic director, but it was one of the high up guys he basically said, you know, in a roundabout way, didn't give an answer, he kind of just ignored it in the professional sense of I'm going to talk about it. You know, you know the team's this and you know he's he's the coach right now and it's just kind of like there was no we're with him, but there's also no hey, he we're with him, but there's also no hey, he's gone if he doesn't win.

Speaker 2:

I don't think they can say anything right now, especially because you don't want a distraction going into this game.

Speaker 1:

If you go win a national championship, your job's secure I think so.

Speaker 2:

But when you lose to Michigan that many years in a row, ohio State's not going to put up with that. That's the one team you can't lose to?

Speaker 1:

They aren't, but I feel like if you bring home a national championship, especially the first year of a playoff which is already throwing a wrinkle into everything, I think you at least buy yourself another year, maybe two. I'm not saying they're going to stick out long. I could see that, because a lot of teams you could win a championship and they're going to give you a seven to ten-year extension.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you have. I think he gets one to two maybe. If he wins, maybe says okay, now next year go show us you can beat michigan?

Speaker 1:

no. But here's the thing we don't need to just beat michigan, they need to go win by 20, by 30 they have to like, they need to go prove a game that's like well, okay, we've been toying with you.

Speaker 2:

We got to show up so ryan day's guys back against the wall. Um chip kelly. We've seen his offenses in the past. I don't know what's going on there is chip kelly being throttled or is?

Speaker 1:

I don't know. You know, I don't really know, but that's where I feel like this game.

Speaker 2:

You know, they've talked about it. They've said we got to put all chips on the table. Let's go win or lose. And I think they're going to come out and they're going to look different. They cannot come out and look the same they have there. There's no way.

Speaker 1:

Too many playmakers, too much Now again. I don't think our defense is that great. I think we've struggled all year getting pressure. I think if we give Tennessee time they could score Well, I think Tennessee is good, so they feel a lot to me like a Penn State. They're pretty darn good defensively, but to me Tennessee can score a lot more points. They can, I mean, at one point this year they put up 70 points, they can go quick on you.

Speaker 1:

They have the ability, their quarterback. I mean he's a young freshman kid but he's long, he sees the field well. I mean they beat Bama. I mean he's won big games.

Speaker 2:

When I thought about this game, my first reaction is Tennessee's going to win. And then I said, nope, buckeyes got this one and it's because they have to. If they come out like they've shown the past few weeks of the season and they haven't changed and just said let's go, let everything out, then it's because they've already got one foot out the door and they know they're gone and they're just packing it in. And I can't see Ryan Day doing that. He doesn't want to leave Ohio State like that.

Speaker 1:

No, I also have that kind of thought of it. It's really hard building a team on a rented quarterback, and what I mean is you know the transfer portal. You're seeing these guys transfer everywhere, but you're getting them for a year. You know if will howard would have seen him for two to three years.

Speaker 2:

Maybe he's a different person because when you have that amount of time.

Speaker 1:

With that kind of skill and and those kind of coaches, I feel like you can. You can do a lot. I just, I just don't know. Like you know, miami basically rented cam ward for a year and you know that didn't turn out necessarily the way they truly wanted it, because you know they didn't make the playoff.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's I agree with that, and that is an issue I don't really buy when teams make that excuse because other teams are doing the same thing and succeeding, so everybody's having to deal with it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So I'm not saying that it's not possible or doable. I just, I guess for me I'm more saying I don't like it.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I understand that completely.

Speaker 1:

Like this kid at Tennessee he's there two to three years before he goes to the NFL. Like he's there, they're there to develop him.

Speaker 2:

You never know, somebody come along with some money.

Speaker 1:

It could be anywhere. But to me it's like who's going to have more money than them? I mean which you know we're already hearing the rumors of. You know Quinn Ewers stay, but you know Manning is starting next year. Like they're, like they're, basically they're turning the reins over, but you've got yours is going to be looking for four or five teams that have already said we've got $4 million waiting for you.

Speaker 1:

Oregon is rumored Cause you know they're going to be losing Dylan Gabriel. Ohio state is rumored. You've got a couple of sec schools that are rumored and it's like and that's I could see good quarterbacks, leaving pretty good teams for the powerhouses who bring the money. Again. It's just this whole money thing is getting out of control, like that is as free agency as it gets.

Speaker 2:

It is but that's crazy to me. But that's life. I mean, that's jobs. If somebody offers you more money, leave your job and get another one. You can say yes.

Speaker 1:

But this is still supposed to be, that amateur status Like this is still supposed to be that amateur status Like this is not supposed to be professional.

Speaker 1:

Like the pros when they're doing that money. I get it. It's your full-time job. These are student athletes. So when the money then comes and takes over, it's like, all right, are we even able to classify? Like for many years, because, being a Kentucky fan, you had two or three guys that had to sit because they technically took money over in Europe playing and it's like, well, they're a pro and now it's paid everywhere and way more. You're better off to come over here to a college and get way more out of it.

Speaker 2:

There's issues that need fixed, but I think they should be paid. Now how much? Oh, I'm not arguing. Should there be caps? Should there be?

Speaker 1:

I've said that for a long time they make these schools millions upon millions of dollars, should they get some money? Yes, we're just talking about way more money than I think I really anticipated.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think that'll get straightened out. I think they're going to make some limits and some different things like that.

Speaker 1:

I think it has to. I really do.

Speaker 2:

I think it has to I want to ask you the big, important question.

Speaker 1:

Oh.

Speaker 2:

Who do you have winning the national championship this year?

Speaker 1:

That's another one I've been back and forth on. Honestly, at one point I almost was ready to say Georgia, if they were healthy. I don't think we know if they're going to be healthy right now. Right now they're saying their backup is the guy Yep, but he looked pretty good, yeah, until he got his head taken off.

Speaker 2:

He didn't look so good there.

Speaker 1:

He looked like he didn't know how to run, yeah, yeah, until he got his head taken off. He didn't look so good there. He looked like he didn't know how to run. I mean he ran with his head up so yeah, of course, he got just knocked out. I mean, literally he got knocked out. I don't know if you saw the picture of his eyes in the back of his head, and his leg looked like it got amputated.

Speaker 1:

I mean he looked rough, he got hit. So you know, I don't know. Again, we say he looks good, but he also threw a pick against a Texas defense who's not outrageously good, so I don't know when they really play some good teams.

Speaker 1:

So who you got, then I honestly think you could have a team like Tennessee make a run. Oh really, I think they've got the tools and, honestly, the side. Once we get out of this first round. I don't think the bracket is really that great. It's not. I agree with that Because if they win they go play Oregon. I think Oregon's beatable if you can get pressure, because at one point halfway through the season Dylan Gabriel had been sacked maybe two times. So Oregon is protecting him. But I think if you can dial up some pressure on him he's not a real tall guy. If you get in his line of sight, I think he can make some mistakes. I think you can't beat them.

Speaker 1:

So you're picking Tennessee.

Speaker 2:

I'm an Ohio State fan. I was going to say you're kind of beating around there. I want the Buckeyes to win it all I do but I don't think we match up well against them.

Speaker 1:

I think there's a lot of controversy that I don't know that they can get through. You know Ryan Day controversy, chip Kelly controversy. Brian Hartline's already been looking at other jobs which he's going to be somewhere. He's an unbelievable wide receiver coach, been doing offensive stuff. He's going to go somewhere at some point. We're not keeping him. That's just not possible.

Speaker 2:

So what I'm hearing is Tennessee.

Speaker 1:

You ain't said it yet, but I keep hearing Tennessee. I've honestly been between Tennessee and Penn State.

Speaker 2:

There's two teams that I keep just kind of falling to because, well, I'm going to make you pick one. I'm going to hold you to one right here, so right now I'm picking. Tennessee.

Speaker 1:

I just think if Penn State wins, they can play Boise State.

Speaker 2:

I'm like alright, well, they can beat them too. They could, so if they can start to win some points. So you're looking at the path a little bit there too. Yeah, so that's part of it to me.

Speaker 1:

I'm not really necessarily saying I don't think Tennessee is the best team there. Yeah, no, I don't either.

Speaker 2:

But I think with their play style and the path there is.

Speaker 1:

It hurts to say that, but I just don't think we match up well.

Speaker 2:

Well, I don't see the Buckeyes winning the championship.

Speaker 1:

I don't and I don't, and that's kind of part of it.

Speaker 2:

I haven't hated Ryan Day, but it may not be a bad thing to move on.

Speaker 1:

No, I really liked the hire when they did it. I think it was a good change of pace from what we had before. I think he's done well with recruiting, even pre-nil stuff. I think he's done some good things, but historically he's not won any big games. This is the first year he's beaten the top five I'm and he did it twice fortunately but this is the first year he's done that in in several years. So it's kind of. It's kind of hard.

Speaker 2:

I've kind of been like you, thinking about different teams and thinking about ge and, yes, starting quarterbacks out back up got hit. A lot of things going on there. I've seen them play a few times this year. I've seen them win big games, lose some games, go to eight overtimes with Georgia State, georgia.

Speaker 1:

Tech. Yeah. Who is a better Georgia Tech than usual? Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so I've had all those same thoughts about Georgia, but it's Kirby Smart.

Speaker 1:

It is. I agree with that, and they got a week off. He's a good ball coach.

Speaker 2:

And if they're not completely healthy, I think he's going to have them ready to go and I think we're going to want this big 12-team playoff and we're hoping for somebody to come out.

Speaker 1:

And I think Georgia wins it either.

Speaker 2:

I honestly do. I'm picking Georgia. They've been there, they know what it's like.

Speaker 1:

Here's the thing we're both picking SEC. We are I'm kind of going out on a limb picking a first-week team because my pick could be out this week. I don't think your going is. I'm like man, I'm saying UT and it's funny because I've had some friends of mine volunteer fans for life. I mean, they are hardcore, but it's the old joke of every single year, a Tennessee fan, next year's, our year, next year. Next year's our year. It's always been that.

Speaker 2:

Well, here's what you're telling them now.

Speaker 1:

Well, you had to have a 12-team playoff to even get in Correct, but if they go, win it, Out of that and I know it's crazy too, if they win Saturday they go play the number one, but again the number one. Their best win is against Ohio State, who is still not that great, I don't feel.

Speaker 2:

The 12 team playoff Is going to be great. Got more teams in there, but I think at the end of the day You're still going to have One. It got more teams in there, More teams can say they're in there, but I think at the end of the day, you're still going to have one of the best teams win and Georgia's one of the best ones in there At times. I think when it's all over, we're going to go yeah, we got 12, but it didn't matter much.

Speaker 1:

Go back to first half Georgia Tech they can't beat anybody. Go back to first half bama they can't beat anybody but kirby always finds a way. He did in the second turn around. The thing is, if you have a, a backup, that's in looking at that same deficit.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's what he doesn't have the experience.

Speaker 1:

It's a big part of that but there's no, there is no, I don't know how to say that, but there's nothing like experience that, no, I don't know how I was going to say that, but there's nothing like experience. That's true, the kid doesn't have the experience that is true, not on the big-time games.

Speaker 1:

He came in against Texas late, already kind of down at the goal line. You're already amped up, but he didn't have to start that game and get them there. It's a little bit different coming into a decent situation, but starting and really getting them to that point is, I think, a little bit different. Honestly, that's the only thing that pulled me away from wanting to pick. Georgia is the backup.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying that he's bad. I'm not saying he's a bad quarterback, it's just different. Obviously, I hope Ohio State just blows Tennessee out and we can laugh about that next week. Oh, 100%. And I can say how wrong you were, and I will gladly take that.

Speaker 1:

So you got a win-win there, kind of In a way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I mean it'd kind of be cool to see Tennessee and Georgia in the championship game because they're on opposite sides there.

Speaker 1:

It would, and they didn't play this year.

Speaker 2:

No. So we didn't see them Right, right, I can't remember at this point.

Speaker 1:

It's been a long season. It has been a long season.

Speaker 2:

I agree with that.

Speaker 1:

There's been some good games. There's been games that we're really surprised about. I think next year we're going to I think the playoffs can change a little bit.

Speaker 2:

I think the requirements feeding in might shift a little bit, I think we'll see some things. Everybody sees it's needed.

Speaker 1:

But it's the first year it was going to be a little bit weird. We knew that. I think next year we maybe see some more traditional teams in it. You know, I think some Alabamas could come back, I think, yeah, I don't know that. Criteria's going to change a little bit. I don't think that we see Michigan be this bad that long. I mean they were like 6-6 this year. I can't imagine, because they've already pulled a quarterback from LSU, so they've got a big guy coming so.

Speaker 2:

I think they do get better. Before Jim Harbaugh there wasn't a whole lot going on over there, so he kind of changed it around and then he left.

Speaker 1:

I agree, but from everything I've heard about he's still involved heavily. He's doing a ton with them still. So if he keeps his hands in it, I think they could still do a lot.

Speaker 2:

Well, talking about college football, I want to bring a story that I saw the other day High school kid recruit. He's in Mississippi, he lives in Mississippi. I think his brother played at Mississippi State or something. Okay, maybe he's another sport. What position, details or whatever. I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Okay, we just know Mississippi kid.

Speaker 2:

Mississippi kid. I can't remember. You know we don't have a lot of sports details. Gosh, what are you?

Speaker 1:

thinking. I was just curious if you knew a position I'm not asking for his 40 times Hold on.

Speaker 2:

Can we look at his bio and?

Speaker 1:

tell you about his family tree. No, I don't need all that, I mean.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the kid had a high jump. He was a little bit slow on the 40, but he really made up for it in his shuttle.

Speaker 1:

I don't really care about that Shuttle looked really good, 38-inch vertical, it wasn't quite up. There had a family that played somewhere in Mississippi as well. Mississippi State, mississippi State.

Speaker 2:

Okay, gotcha, yeah, and so he was going to Mississippi State. Kind of last minute change to Ole Miss. Okay, on signing day, which is not a crazy switch.

Speaker 1:

No, it's not, and it's Lane.

Speaker 2:

Kiffin and stuff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, who's done great?

Speaker 2:

So on signing day he signed with Ole Miss. Okay, well then, a quick flip, and he signs with Mississippi State and he's at Mississippi State and they actually go to a practice and interview this kid so is he, did he sign?

Speaker 1:

he's there this year. He's going there this year, okay.

Speaker 2:

He's going there this year, okay and they ask him okay, what happened? Tell us the story here. And he was very short with his words. Okay, and, given the story, really short answers to the reporter. But long story short.

Speaker 1:

He said I signed with omiss but my mama didn't so mama was not happy that he was gonna be a rebel I don't think he's 18 years old yet.

Speaker 2:

he cannot sign it without his mom, so it wasn't official until his mom signed it. His mom wanted him to go to Mississippi State. Basically probably I'm assuming from what happened said I'm not signing that you can go here, I'm not signing.

Speaker 1:

So I have a hard time with that, because the whole signing with somebody, these kids flip and do whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want, and how do you really hold them to it, like it's not, like you can say well, you said you were coming here, so we're going to sue you for this much. They don't have anything.

Speaker 2:

My problem is the mom getting involved to that point that the kid can't go to where he wants to go. He's going to stay there a year and he's going to be 18, and he's out of there next year, unless it just goes absolutely great.

Speaker 1:

Well, Well. But in all honesty, if you go to Mississippi State and you just shine and prove that you really belong to Ole Miss, who's a much better program currently, he's just going to transfer there.

Speaker 2:

He's going yeah.

Speaker 1:

And then honestly, as mama you know, if he decides I'm leaving Mississippi State and I'm going to, you know Oregon. Well, if Oregon's going to be that top dog and they're saying you're coming here and you're going to play, can you really be upset Because you're going to play? Can you really be upset Because then you're getting more NFL exposure?

Speaker 2:

You're getting more everything. I really don't like when parents get that involved. I think it's parents' job to steer them in the right direction, help them find the answers, but if a 17-year-old kid who's getting ready to be 18 knows, I want to go here, this is the school for me. I don't think a mom who just well, your brother went here we're fans of this school, you know, because I'm I'm not sure if you're a mississippi state fan. You are not a fan of old miss at all.

Speaker 1:

No, that's exactly, yeah, that there's.

Speaker 2:

There's some bad blood there I'm sure there's some of that gets involved and a parent should not pick a kid's school based on that and that's what it feels like happening again. I don't know all the details, but he was very short. You tell you wasn't happy about it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I it's, it's hard, it is hard. I I think obviously we don't know really the the full what happened behind closed doors. You know, we don't know if it's mama just saying you're doing this or nothing yeah, or if there was really a discussion and then he just more kind of embarrassed about it. You know, I don't know all that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, obviously don't know well, but he was very quick to throw her under the bus and say I signed, but my mama didn't. Don't know well, but he was very quick to throw her under the bus and say I signed, but my mama didn't like he let everybody know she's the reason I didn't go there.

Speaker 1:

And again it's. It still feels hard to me that it's like it's not uncommon for kids that age to not want to take responsibility. So I'm not saying that it wasn't mama, but maybe she was just that was the quick answer of it was just mama.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because mom at that point what?

Speaker 1:

does mama care? Yeah, she was just. That was the quick answer of it was just mama. Yeah, because mom, at that point, what? What does mama care? Yeah, she didn't care that. You know that you're getting you're going to the bus.

Speaker 2:

Or maybe she said just say it was me, or whatever. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I hope there's more of the story comes out. Go there, it's. It's mississippi state or nothing. Yeah, I don't agree with that well, that's not uncommon in recruiting.

Speaker 2:

You know parents involved more than they should, we see.

Speaker 1:

So many videos, these kids, and it kind of gets out of hand. You've got, you know, I've got these four different hats here and I'm doing shirts and I'm doing this so like all right, nobody really cares that much like you're not. You're not lebron in the decision you know, and which I thought that was stupid and that was lebron, but you know. Then you see these parents that are all mad that these kids picked well, that's what it reminded me of.

Speaker 2:

There was, a year or two ago. A kid picked a school I don't remember what it was and his mom literally got up from the table and walked off and and the reporter, he's like on espn or something, yeah, and he's like, who was that?

Speaker 1:

he's like, oh, that's my mom yeah, I, I remember I think I've seen a few clips kind of similar and I'll be honest with you like, yeah, sure, there may be some things that I you know if my kid is ever in that situation.

Speaker 2:

So your kid's going to sign with Michigan?

Speaker 1:

If he's going to sign with Michigan. Here's the thing Michigan's a good school. Like I'm not going to be upset at that, I'm glad they made it somewhere. But if you were to that level you know more for me I'd be like, hey, why don't you come go to you know north carolina with belichick, or go to stay home or go to tennessee, go somewhere closer, just because I want to be able to go see it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's kind of more, I think, more of the selfishly I want to be close to them. But if you're going to that level, go where you want to go where you want to go. A lot of that like I don't care that you're gonna go to a rivalry.

Speaker 2:

It's gonna be really hard to put those colors on, but I would do it to support you, because I don't it's more about you than it is about, and that's you know you grow up a fan and, yes, if you are a fan of a school when you get older and you get to play for that school, that's great. Oh yeah, of course. But when you go to make that decision, it can't be based on that. No, no, as the kid as the parents. You got to look at the coach that's there at the time, the staff that's there, the facilities, the school itself, because they're going to school while they're there.

Speaker 1:

I would say the big thing, because what 99% of these kids are never going to go pro. So, whatever sport it may be, it's like if they go they need to have a good education. Yep.

Speaker 2:

There's a lot more to it than just oh, I grew up a fan of that and I just can't wait to go there.

Speaker 1:

Now here's the good thing. I can say this I know my kids. They're like me. They don't like cold weather.

Speaker 2:

He ain't going to Michigan. He's not going, it's too cold.

Speaker 1:

He's more likely to go sign at Miami or something because it's warm. He's not going there.

Speaker 2:

You know, I bet they get a lot of recruits for that reason.

Speaker 1:

You know, down south, any of the south schools.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, florida.

Speaker 1:

Well, so here's the thing. Like I say, miami, miami is a wild scene. Like it would be hard to be that age and go do the things you're supposed to do, with all the distractions that you can have going on, which really at any of these big schools, like there's plenty of distractions. You know, but they you've got to run a tight ship. But especially, you know it's a little different in Miami. Versus we'll say Ole Miss. You know Ole Miss is even a huge party school.

Speaker 2:

But there's way less there than there is in Miami. It's not in a major city like that, especially a city like Miami.

Speaker 1:

Yeah or like UCLA USC. You know, you're.

Speaker 2:

LA, like that's a very different thing, especially now, like you said, the amount of money these kids are getting. Exactly, give a kid a million dollars and send him to Miami.

Speaker 1:

It's not a bunch of poor kids going. They're going with millions in their pocket and who knows what they're doing. It's all kinds of craziness.

Speaker 2:

So thought that was interesting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean it's a, it feels like it's a mess, and I think that's where we've seen some recruiting stuff over the years. It's always kind of a mess and it's I'm not sure really how I feel about it.

Speaker 2:

Well, I want to be clear. I'm all for parents advocating for your kids and, um, you know, trying to steer the right direction, but let them live their own life. Exactly, there's yeah, yeah, you might know best, and if it's a bad situation, definitely the parent needs to take control and so. But as these kids are going off to be adults you know they're going to play football at college which kind of got 18 is not an adult like this whole?

Speaker 1:

you turn 18, you're an adult you're not, it's not.

Speaker 2:

Your brain is not even developed.

Speaker 1:

You're like there's so many things you don't know how to do or don't even remotely. You're not mature at 18, so I mean it. It's yeah, that's a whole nother topic you were an adult legally. So, yes, you've got to go make those decisions.

Speaker 2:

It's just, that's when it's like we're throwing you out there and now you got to learn how to be an adult sink or swim. Yeah, and that's kind of but again, if you said 20 was a daughter, 22 is, you're probably gonna have the same thing. You're gonna throw you at sink or swim.

Speaker 1:

At some point you're gonna go sink well, but like when you really look at it at 25, your brain is fully developed. Now I'm not saying we should be waiting and we should have a bunch of 30 year olds playing college football because you know, then you got no knees and no backs and it's gonna be pretty rough but I mean, it's just as far as development wise you you do develop later.

Speaker 1:

So it's hard and I kind of go back to that whole thing of you're giving these 17, 18 year old kids millions of dollars and then wondering why they're not more worried about football itself you know, talking about a lot of distractions.

Speaker 2:

Well, talking about the mom the mom that's that involved in recruiting, that she wouldn't sign 11 intent where he did um, makes you wonder about the money part. Like, do the parents, especially when they're not 18 yet? I'm sure it's a lot of the parents on the back end. We want this much money, we want a house, we want yada, yada, but they're getting a lot of it and not the was mississippi state offering a house and old miss is only offering a car I mean I don't know, yeah, because you do see a lot of that.

Speaker 1:

It's not even as much Like. I've seen a few of these deals that people talk about and they're like, well, we can't give names, but here's kind of how it laid out and it's like well, they're going to get X amount of dollars a month and we can't give it monetarily-wise but we've got a house waiting on you, we've got a car, things.

Speaker 2:

That's all the stuff the parents get, right? So the kid that's actually playing isn't really benefiting a lot from that Exactly. I don't mean to be wrong. I'm sure they want their parents to have stuff, if Ole Miss was more cash up front and Mississippi State was more back-end benefits.

Speaker 1:

Benefits are for family and friends than it is you.

Speaker 2:

I could see that. And again, mississippi State's where you need to go. That's what we're fans of.

Speaker 1:

They've got a house waiting on me. I need you to go there.

Speaker 2:

It could be, but there are parents that make decisions for their kids. Oh, I'm sure that probably ain't the best for the kid because they get more on the back end.

Speaker 1:

I mean don't get me wrong, selfish, want more, but at that point it's like I want what's best for my kid.

Speaker 2:

If I have to live in a tent, I'm, I'm gonna. That's fine. It's getting cold. I don't know if I want well I don't. I don't want to either, um, give me a camper there are still people in western north carolina living in tents that yeah, really next week's gonna suck, so next week's gonna suck if anybody hears this, that can help.

Speaker 1:

Definitely do especially coming up christmas. I have seen there's a bunch of toy drives going on specifically for two or three communities in our area, which I think is awesome.

Speaker 2:

The place up there in Swannanoa, we took our stuff. They had like 500 sets of Christmas pajamas Little things that we take for granted oh, 100% that they were giving out to kids and stuff like that. So still a big need in that area for sure. But you mentioned Christmas.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, we're going to go on to going into it I'm so excited.

Speaker 2:

I've been excited about this since we we uh kind of came up with the idea.

Speaker 1:

Well, I've seen it a lot out there, but it is. Yeah, don't worry, I'm not saying we came up with this idea, don't, don't take that wrong but the fact that we're like, hey, we should do this, I got really excited about it. Because there, you know, everybody talks about what's your favorite movie. Well, that's a really broad topic. But then when you say let's talk about a specific type of movie oh yeah, let's talk about christmas movies, christmas, what's your favorite christmas movie? And it's like huh, I mean I like a lot of them.

Speaker 2:

Yep, I mean, I've got a few that maybe say you're more we went back and forth on how to go about this because there are so many Christmas movies, so many good ones too. And what we want to do is do a 12-team bracket like the college football playoff bracket.

Speaker 1:

We are, but we're going to do it slightly different Kind of the way I think we've decided to do.

Speaker 2:

Well, the hard part is when you have a list of I don't know 50 Christmas movies. Oh, and there's way more than that.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, like when there's 30 each that we like, you know some of those are overlap, but some of them aren't. It's like, how do?

Speaker 2:

I pick that, and that was our challenge was who's going to decide the top?

Speaker 1:

12 to get this.

Speaker 2:

Right, so we came up with a plan.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so we're actually going to start off with a draft. So For me, I'm going to get to pick six, dave's going to pick six, but then there's actually gonna be a little bit of a twist. There's gonna be one veto each well. We're gonna pick seven each well. So that's what's going. We're gonna pick six, then one of those six can get vetoed, and then you pick one to replace it. So then, basically, oh, no in it with seven.

Speaker 2:

Oh no, no, let's pick seven, that way I can veto. I might want to veto your seventh.

Speaker 1:

No see, I was going to try.

Speaker 2:

I was trying to sneak that in there so I could slide something in by a certain pick. That's what it is You're trying to be sneaky, no, but there's one you can veto that. You can't veto that one. The people voted.

Speaker 1:

Listen, listen. The people voted at 52%, so last episode, they approved it.

Speaker 2:

At the end of the episode, Tyler asked me my favorite Christmas movie. I did, and right before we got done he says oh yeah, by the way, my favorite Christmas movie is Die Hard.

Speaker 1:

I didn't say my favorite.

Speaker 2:

Or one of.

Speaker 1:

I said so I like the movie of. I said I like the movie. I think it's a good movie, but at the same time I love the idea that people have gotten so behind that it's a Christmas movie because it's not Santa Claus and Reindeer, but the entirety of the movie is December 24th at a Christmas party and even Bruce Willis dressed up at Santa it is an action movie that happens in December, around Christmas time.

Speaker 1:

Okay, but two-thirds of the Christmas movies, you could say the same thing. Or, especially like we talked about this, how many TV shows over the years it just happens at Christmas. Oh yeah, that happens a lot. And they're like well, this is our Christmas episode. Well, really, it's the same thing, but you just happened at Christmas. But that's not a christmas show, it's a show but they will call it they will call it their christmas episode yeah, so it's not even not even saying it's at christmas.

Speaker 1:

They're actually calling it. This is our holiday christmas episode, so I'm like, all right, well, that's no different well, there's no difference in that we put it up on social media um, they approved it. If I, if I did that you have to go with the people.

Speaker 2:

There was. So, what was crazy to me, more people said they hadn't seen it yes Than said no, it wasn't a Christmas movie yes, but more than that said it is, I still might veto it.

Speaker 1:

You're such a loser.

Speaker 2:

Listen, you're going against the people.

Speaker 1:

I get a veto, so I got to think of like three others to randomly throw in there that you've got to pick.

Speaker 2:

Which one do I want? So? So we're going to throw in a another caveat that you get. You can pick one of your picks and say cannot be vetoed. That's fair, okay, I think that's fair Basically saying this one's off off table seven. You can say cannot veto this all right.

Speaker 1:

Well, so here's the thing, let's get it um, I need a coin, because we talked about this, we're gonna do a coin I'll give you first flip or first go first, I'll give you first pick, yeah, um.

Speaker 1:

Well. So we did say this too, like when it comes down to so this week we talked about we're gonna, we're gonna set, we're gonna have 12, 12 movies out there. Yep, we actually have a friend of ours that we we feel is impartial enough that we're going to let him do the actual seating, let him seat it and we're going to go with whatever he sees. We're not going to argue with it, we're just going to say you give me the 12, you lay them out, I'll take it.

Speaker 2:

And we will put the bracket out social media. So, yes, you can vote on it. On not amused yes and also for you golf. We'll put it up on there, correct?

Speaker 1:

so if you want to go, I'll share it personally with mine. I'm sure you'll probably do it with yours as well, but those will be the two places. For sure that it will be.

Speaker 2:

Yeah and go follow us on there too, by the way yeah, absolutely the the not amused page.

Speaker 1:

It's going to have a bunch more stuff coming out. We're obviously going to be growing everything a ton um, because this is week five. So I mean we're kind of at that point. It's like all right, we're, it wasn't a one-off, like let's keep going with it and all that um.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, we're gonna have the 12, 12 movies out there and for me personally, I'm gonna try to watch all 12 of these this next week before before we actually do the bracket next there's two or three that I feel like are guaranteed to be on here, that I've already watched and we all know, because there's a few that we're like, all right, those will be there.

Speaker 1:

It's kind of hard not to, and that's probably going to be our first few picks, because that's for me. There's a couple that I'm like I'm probably going to pick those first, just to pick them, yep. But we've also said, when it comes to kind of how it's going to be going through our bracket and some of the votes, and some of you know just everything.

Speaker 2:

That's going to probably come out. Uh, that's going to be maybe on Christmas day. We'll have to see.

Speaker 1:

I'll probably look to push that one out on Christmas day, cause I think we're going to probably record a day early for that Um, so I can get that out on Christmas.

Speaker 2:

You know a christmas episode that'll be good um so christmas episode, not just an episode during christmas time, it's gonna be both oh, okay, I mean, we're talking about christmas movies on christmas.

Speaker 1:

That's a christmas episode. Now shut up, I do want to say I will mute you and just talk myself. I don't care fine go ahead.

Speaker 2:

I do like die hard and the die hard movies. Cool little story. I have an uncle that was in die hard with the vengeance. Not well, not him, him.

Speaker 1:

He drove a truck. It's still really cool.

Speaker 2:

He had one of the fake gold bars and stuff, but he actually drove a truck.

Speaker 1:

that was hard to go. Yeah yeah, I'll be honest with you, though. I love Die Hard. 1. The others are good, but I'm not as crazy about them.

Speaker 2:

I remember them and they were all really good. Since I've seen it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I agree with that. So yeah, we're going to jump into it. I got the first pick. I'm going to go with one that I know you would pick if you had the first pick. Okay, the Santa Claus Santa. Claus First one First one. I'm taking that because I love that movie. I love that movie. So, yeah, definitely that's going to be my number one, and see where you go to for number two.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, I'm going to have to, I think, my number two. I'm going to go. Well, your number one pick, but our number two overall. Yeah, my number one pick. I'm going to go with the first Home Alone.

Speaker 1:

I love that movie and think that's another.

Speaker 2:

if you don't pick it, I'm controversial, like we said with diehard, because it is more during christmas time, but it does have some christmas stuff in it, I think it does.

Speaker 1:

It's all happening over christmas and it's kind of the same, like you said, the same kind of premise as far as it's really just happening over christmas, but I think it has more christmas, does that? Not make it a Christmas movie, so that's where it's kind of difficult. So, yeah, I do think that's a great pick, though, and kind of what I was going to say before. When we get into kind of starting to discuss these, I don't care if it's your pick or my pick. I'll still probably vote.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'm the same way, Because for Home Alone it's going to be hard for me to vote against something else on that, until maybe it's like Home Alone and Santa Claus and it's like oh crap, because at the end of it it's not about. Well, one of my picks won, or one of your picks won.

Speaker 2:

It's really just more of making the picks and getting the outcome. If we get ties, we're going to go look at social media votes, things like that, to help break the ties.

Speaker 1:

Yes. So definitely we want to get as much involvement and I know it's only a week that we're going to have it out there, but we're going to try to push this out in the next day or two. So my second pick I'm going to have to go with Elf. Oh, that was going to be my second pick. I actually watched it the other night with my kids and it's so different for a Will Ferrell movie because it's not a lot of people don't like some of his movies just because it's a little more stupid humor. But this is just, it's just kind of a classic. I really like it. It's became a classic Christmas movie. I agree with that. All right. So back back over to you.

Speaker 2:

What do you got?

Speaker 1:

I know it's kind of hard. You start looking at the list. It is there's so many good ones there's so many out there christmas movies.

Speaker 2:

There were until I started looking, but I think I'm gonna go with christmas with the cranks oh okay, so tim allen's making an appearance twice already I really like tim allen, by the way. Everything he plays I've always enjoyed.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's hard because we grew up with with home improvement and that was such a big part of your week like you were like love to watch that show and and then there's just like, even since then he's done so many things, so he's just one of those that's a lot of kind of flock to, and whether you mean to or not, you just now, just to put it out there.

Speaker 1:

I'm not going to tell you my non-veto until the end oh yeah, I was going to wait till the end on that, like I kind of want you to veto it and be like nope, that was my one.

Speaker 2:

That was the one. No, you got to tell me before the veto. That way I know for sure.

Speaker 1:

But you know listen, I make the rules here, kind of I don't know, there's really no rules here. We're going to just go on as we go.

Speaker 2:

This is called, not amused.

Speaker 1:

There's really not many rules here. I am actually going to go with uh, national lampoon's christmas vacation. Okay, I started watching it again last night for the first time in many years. It's a lot more slapstick humor than I really remember. Yep, and it's dated. It is dated and there's definitely some things in the movie that you know I'm not gonna watch with my kids. There's just a couple of. It feels very, you know, 80s, 90s. Like you know, the the ratings were different back then.

Speaker 2:

So it's not quite different humor, for sure.

Speaker 1:

Uh, but I do think it's a really funny movie. There's just a lot of really really funny parts and it's, you know, family, christmas and just the you know the chaos that can ensue with that.

Speaker 2:

So and I do as this goes on we're going to get into Some of the traditional stuff. So if you're a traditionalist Christmas, tree person yeah. We do have those on the list and we're going to get to A point, I'm sure, when some of those get picked. But what am I at Number three here? Yeah?

Speaker 1:

you're number three.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, I'm going to throw this out there. I think I want to get this on there.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to do that last round. I thought that's what you were going to throw in pretty early.

Speaker 2:

I wasn't ready there yet for it, but it's very controversial to you and to some other people I've talked to. I enjoy that one more than the others.

Speaker 1:

I like the movie. It's not that I just don't think it's the best version. That's to me which a movie like that there's been what? Four or five different versions at this point.

Speaker 2:

Looking at the original, I feel like the original the Grinch was kind of more mean and he was supposed to be heartless and I feel like that one captured that a little bit better.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, his heart was two sizes too small, exactly.

Speaker 2:

That's part of the the new animated one. It's a great animated. Our kids love it. The new, the new one, but they watch it all the time, but it's very, all the time fun and, and you know, family friendly more, I guess, which is great for kids so you're, you're more like you like the sinister I do. That's the best grinch and all the you know at the disney worlds and all this, they have those grinches. It's based off of that movie and I think they're so funny and I gotcha.

Speaker 1:

Well, listen, I'm not saying it's a bad pick, yeah, by no means am I saying that. It's just in my opinion it doesn't feel like the best version. So, like we said, some traditional. I'm actually going to go with a very old school traditional with here. I've already had this. As soon as you started talking about it, I was like I already know my next pick and I know you wouldn't pick it. It's A Wonderful Life. Okay, I don't know that. I've ever seen it. It's black and white, it's like 40s or 50s, it is old school and it's almost a little bit of a nostalgic one too, because I used to watch it with my nanny when she was still alive at her house, but it's also one that's just a good movie I want to see.

Speaker 2:

I don't know that I want a remake of it.

Speaker 1:

I like that.

Speaker 2:

it's just the old classic I was hoping we'd get some movies like this because, like I said, I want to watch them this weekend.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, sure.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to try to watch as many as possible. I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 1:

I need to watch the Jim Carrey Grinch one because I've seen the new one so many times, because our kids love it.

Speaker 2:

It's been a long time them I've seen well, like, like home alone. I'll watch it when it's not christmas, like that's just one of those movies. I love that movie, so it doesn't really matter to me when?

Speaker 1:

great, yeah, man, I'm where are we on them? So, number four, your your fourth pick. Yeah, this will be our eighth overall. Fourth pick.

Speaker 2:

I might go a little old school here, not too old school um I did watch, well, I did watch a movie the other night Santa's Little Helper that has the Miz in it. I'm not going to go there yet. We'll see if I get there in a little bit. Would that be on your list, was it that good?

Speaker 1:

No, but I might get there. I can't imagine it being that good With the people that you told me were in it. I just can't imagine that being good.

Speaker 2:

I think I'm going to go with one that I believe we both enjoy. I'm going Jingle All the Way.

Speaker 1:

Oh, turbo, man Turbo.

Speaker 2:

Man.

Speaker 1:

I love that movie. Listen, I say this every time we talk about the movie. The reason that I know the reindeer is because of that movie. When they have to call into the radio.

Speaker 2:

That's right. They had to call in.

Speaker 1:

That's how they won Dasher Dancer Prancer Vixen Comet. The problem is when I hear that in my head, I hear it in his accent, because he's just sitting there and he's like in the radio station yelling that like like I did it, and he's so.

Speaker 2:

So can you have that accent? Can you do it? No, I can't. I don't have y'all. I want to hear what's in your head.

Speaker 1:

It's not, it's not happening like I don't have that like I hear it but it doesn't come out in in that same same kind of uh sound yeah, you're probably gonna offend somebody I. I wish I could care less about that. So I'm not really worried about that part. It's just, I can't even figure out how that sound would come out, um, but I do think it's a good pick because I love that movie. Yeah, very good. I've never seen the second one. I actually didn't know there was a second larry the cable guy, I haven't it was like 2014.

Speaker 1:

it was much more recent, because the original one was early 2000s, late 90s, somewhere in that range. It's pretty old, um. So yeah, it is. It is a a definite yeah. So now I feel like we get into a spot where it's it's a little bit harder as we go down this list, because there's a few of those that you picked that I would have picked, and let's see my fifth pick. I believe your fifth, yeah, yeah, my fifth. I'm going to go to one that I loved when I was a kid. Okay, I loved the story of it, but I also loved it because it was the Muppets, oh, the Muppets. So I'm going with the Muppets, christmas Carol.

Speaker 1:

The Muppets, christmas Carol and I guarantee our lists are going to look nothing like all these other lists you're seeing online, because it's very much to us. But I do. I love that movie Like it's one of those I want my kids to watch Because I just remember how much I love it.

Speaker 2:

That's what I don't remember and that's what makes some of these hard is I haven't seen some of them yeah. I agree, like I did watch Miracle on 34th Street the other night Very old school, it was a good movie. I don't know if it'll crack in there yet.

Speaker 1:

I like the original better than the one you watched.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I like the old one way, way better. So I'm on number five, you are on number five this is getting hard.

Speaker 1:

I told you it gets harder as we go.

Speaker 2:

You know you have your top few that you really like and, like you said, we both kind of picked our top.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, exactly Like Santa Claus, home alone, elf, especially those three, we're going to pick it regardless of the order.

Speaker 2:

We'll see. I'm not going to pick diehard. We'll see if you do or not, but um I'm already writing it down.

Speaker 1:

Wow, like diehard is my next pick, so you go ahead and have two in the chamber.

Speaker 2:

I'll tell you what I'm going to go might be a little controversial. I'm going to go Home Alone, 2.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I actually wasn't expecting that.

Speaker 2:

I didn't think I would go there, but we've picked so many to go, I really was not expecting you to go to two. I don't think I can pick something else to live it off, because it's not a different movie.

Speaker 1:

It's the same as the first one in a different city.

Speaker 2:

And if it was one and two versus each other, I'm probably going to vote one.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'm going to vote one. Yeah, it'd be hard not to, but two could beat some of these other movies. So actually have we told him he's seating yet? No, okay, well, I know he's going to listen, so you'll get a call, probably tomorrow, from David. Yeah, and the list will come your.

Speaker 2:

Our opinions don't sway him.

Speaker 1:

Call him in the morning. Yeah, because I'll have this out probably by lunch.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah. So yeah, I would call him in the morning and text him whatever If he's busy, and then yeah, and I don't think you'll have a problem with doing it. I don't think so either.

Speaker 1:

Because it's going to be a fun thing to do, yeah. I've already got my diehard number six.

Speaker 2:

Ooh yeah, where am I? I don't know where I'm going with this. Okay, there's one that we haven't put on there yet, that you feel like needs to be on there, I feel like it needs to be on there. We wrenched it a little bit, but the newest Grinch with with the animated we have not made that on there yet, so that'll be my sixth. Now we're going to go one more so we can have a veto.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'll tell you, you can veto your own if you want.

Speaker 2:

If you get to it, yeah.

Speaker 1:

But then that's basically two of mine that are going to leave the list, because I know you're not vetoing your own.

Speaker 2:

I might I don't know.

Speaker 1:

That's not going to happen. A few I know that we we put on our list that I've never seen and a couple that I didn't even know existed until we put them on the list and I had to go look them up. I was like didn't know that was a movie, um so those are definitely not getting picked.

Speaker 2:

There's one right here. I'm surprised you didn't pick, because you told me how much you liked it and I know which one you're talking about.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but the problem is it is a very niche group that likes that.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I haven't seen it so I actually don't know.

Speaker 1:

I think you might like it.

Speaker 2:

I'm talking about Scrooged yes. Okay, I figured that's what it is.

Speaker 1:

I think you might like it, because it is more that darker take on you know that Christmas Carol story Okay it is. And it is more that darker take on you know that christmas carol story okay it is. And it's bill murray. I mean bill murray's funny.

Speaker 2:

But at the same time, I've never seen a christmas carol, any of them.

Speaker 1:

You're not american, yeah. So actually I don't even know that's american story, but you're not. But at the same time bill murray has been on record saying he hates that movie like it was more. He did it because he was contractually obligated. I didn't know that. Not that he really was in great, but there's so many just funny lines in that movie and again it's like 1988. The ratings are different than that's true.

Speaker 1:

I think I lean more towards ones I can watch with my family with the exception of Die Hard, because I'm not watching that with my kids, because I'm not watching that with my kids but most of these are going to be ones that it's family-oriented to me, so that's kind of where that comes in. I actually think I'm going to throw this on here, and I was really debating on this one. I'm going to say the Polar Express.

Speaker 2:

Polar Express. Okay, I've seen some of it.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if I've sat down and watched the movie altogether. It's another animated thing, but it's super popular. So there's one I'm leaving off and I'll be honest with you. I know my mom doesn't listen, but her favorite favorite movie I despise, and I'm going to wait until you pick yours because I don't want you to pick this just because of that. Oh, that would be funny.

Speaker 2:

Because you would, because you would. No, actually, I already know what I'm gonna pick. Okay, and here's what's unique about it this is crazy.

Speaker 1:

Gosh, here we go I've never seen it wait. So you're picking movie you've never seen I want to see it and I want to see how you're picking it and it goes along with what we just said.

Speaker 2:

I've never seen a christmas carol, but I want to see disney's a christmas carol again with jim carrey. I want to see that version. I've heard that's the worst one.

Speaker 1:

Well, I I want to see that version. So you just have a jim carrey things what you're saying I really don't.

Speaker 2:

I mean, yeah, he's got some good movies and stuff, but, um, there's just something about I think that's a more updated version and I want to see the updated version. So, okay, I'm gonna go that one. And so that's, uh, our 14. So if you want to read them all, um.

Speaker 1:

So I'll just go in the order that we we picked them. Uh, we have the first santa claus home alone. One elf christmas with the cranks, national lampoon's christmas vacation. We have how the grinch stole christmas with jim carey it's a wonderful life jingle all the way. The muppets christmas carol home alone 2, die hard. Um, the new grinch, which is benedict cumberbatch I think it's the voice on that one. Yes, uh, polar express and the jim carey version of A Christmas Carol. Yep.

Speaker 2:

Now I don't know what I want to veto yet. So that's the thing. It's going to be strategic because I'm not going to use a veto on, obviously, something I enjoy oh, of course not, even if you picked it, of course not. But I also got to be careful because if I veto something that you're going to block because you get one block, yeah, so I'm trying to be strategic here. I know, I know. So I probably know what your block is going to be. See, that's the hard with my block. Do I pick something that is really good?

Speaker 1:

It could just be mind games over here at this point. Exactly that's my point. I want you to think I'm going to block it and I'm not going to block it.

Speaker 2:

Is good, or you know, or is it something you think I'm gonna get rid of? Um? So I'm gonna go and tell you my block. Okay, the jim carrey grinch, I'm blocking it.

Speaker 1:

It's okay. Yeah, I don't think I would veto that one anyways um I, I don't like. I said, I don't think it's the better version of the grinch, but it's also not one that'd be like. Oh, it just doesn't need to be on the list like it does.

Speaker 2:

I don't feel bad about it, okay so do you want to go ahead and kick one off, since you know my veto? No?

Speaker 1:

I'm going to tell you who my block is. Okay, you already know it. Block and die hard.

Speaker 2:

I'm making you watch it Because I was taking it out as soon as I had the chance.

Speaker 1:

I know you were, but I want you to have to watch it.

Speaker 2:

It's more of that than it is anything I mean. I know the people spoke.

Speaker 1:

Listen, all my people all my people that voted. I'm going to start making listen. I'm campaigning, that's just. I'm on the campaign trail. We're getting diehard out of the first round.

Speaker 2:

All that does, we got to make it go farther.

Speaker 1:

All that tells me. Wait, did our person that is going to do the list. Did he vote?

Speaker 2:

I don't know, I don't remember seeing it either.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I should have thought about that, because if he, voted for a certain thing. He's definitely putting that like a 12 or something, yeah.

Speaker 2:

No, I haven't seen if he did or not, but that just told me. There's more people that don't know what a Christmas movie is. So I feel you know the world's in a tough place. Here we go, here we go.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so no, but I think those are really not bad blocks as a whole I get it. I think you knew I was going to go there just because.

Speaker 2:

I did. Yeah, I think you knew I was going to veto it. If I could, we had to do that, okay.

Speaker 1:

So so do you have a veto? I don't really know which one I want to veto yet to be honest with you.

Speaker 2:

I don't really want to veto any. I like all the picks.

Speaker 1:

I just I think I want to drop it for sure.

Speaker 2:

So our first veto is going to be basically number 14. Yep, they're going to be second one out. I guess.

Speaker 1:

Um, there's one I know if I veto it and I don't necessarily want to veto it, but if I do, I'm probably not invited over for Christmas.

Speaker 2:

Hmm, oh, I know where that's going If.

Speaker 1:

I voted for that one and vetoed it tomorrow, and actually this person would get to listen early, because they typically do. Yeah, I'm getting a text immediately.

Speaker 2:

That's true. You might have to keep that in mind. I don't know. Wow, I didn't think you'd go there.

Speaker 1:

Which I don't dislike. I do like that movie. It's just non-traditional christmas movie and it's another tim allen. It's like god, we've got tim allen on here twice, we've got uh macaulay culkin on here twice. We've got jim carrey on here twice.

Speaker 2:

I'm like I don't know I just kind of knew the one you would veto, but I'm not gonna say anything yet because you don't want me to veto it yeah, I mean, I just I don't want to, you know, sway you in any certain direction. But I had a thought in my mind okay, he's other than the Grinch that I blocked.

Speaker 1:

I had one in mind that you would veto out so I almost thought about vetoing your Jim Carrey Christmas Carol. But you want to watch it. So at the same time, like I don't know if I want to veto it because you're not going to watch it if it's not on the list, oh, I'll still watch it regardless. At some point, but it's going to take a back burner to all these others.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Well, I mean you veto whatever you want to veto.

Speaker 1:

That is the one I figured you'd veto, is it? It is, I'm going to try to, because you've never watched the movie it just looks like it might be a good movie, and it's a Christmas carol, do you know?

Speaker 2:

who you want to veto.

Speaker 1:

Do you have one in mind?

Speaker 2:

I don't, I'll probably have to look at the list again to just kind of.

Speaker 1:

Here's the list. I'm back and forth because I'm almost in my mind like I could veto one of mine.

Speaker 2:

Oh see.

Speaker 1:

I knew that could happen. I think there's, and it's almost like I'm regretting the pick in a way.

Speaker 2:

It's probably diehard, isn't it? No, no, no, it's not that.

Speaker 1:

Listen, I'm on the campaign trail for that one. Like we're trying to get at least to the semis. It's going to be one of those.

Speaker 2:

This could turn out so funny. You veto your own. Okay, who are you vetoing? You got it.

Speaker 1:

I don't fully have it. I'm between two, I'm between two All right, pick one, let's go. Do you have one of mine? So we don't be on the same thing.

Speaker 2:

No, I want you to go first, of course, you want to hear what I have. Hey, you got the pick first, so now you got to do your veto first. Right, that is true.

Speaker 1:

That is true. You did your block first, though. Yeah, there was no surprise there. I think we all knew this before we started.

Speaker 2:

I put out the poll trying to get a little backing, but it backfired Exactly.

Speaker 1:

That's why I feel like it had to be on the list. So I'll tell you the two that I'm between is Polar Express Okay, Because it's not my favorite movie, it's not one that I'm just like I'm going to watch that every year on Christmas.

Speaker 2:

So that's your pick that you're thinking about.

Speaker 1:

Potentially Okay. And then my other is possibly the Jim Carrey.

Speaker 2:

Christmas Carol. I'm between that one. So the reason I said this is going to get funny because you're going to veto your Polo Express, I'm probably going to veto mine.

Speaker 1:

Are you thinking?

Speaker 2:

that.

Speaker 1:

Really.

Speaker 2:

That's what I thought was fixing to happen. Tell mine, and you know it's not gonna matter anyways let me.

Speaker 1:

Let me see the list again real quick. Real quick because I may switch, because again, I've never seen that. That jim carrey, christmas carol, and I'm just going off from what I heard of the movie. People say, well, that's not the best version. Yeah doesn't mean it's a bad movie, you know everybody's gonna like I have no idea like.

Speaker 1:

Your favorite grinch version is the jim carrey one. A lot of people it used be, because it was the only one that was more modern and then it became this new one. But yes, I agree, the new one is much more soft Grinch. It's not as dark evil Grinch as he really was supposed to be.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's who he was heartless.

Speaker 1:

So obviously I can't veto Santa Claus Home Alone. Elf. Those feel untouchable, whether they are or aren't. Yeah, because so many people are going to flock to those. Potentially those could be really high seeds. Yeah, like they could be getting buys.

Speaker 2:

Well, and that's with the Vitos. I really feel like you hit it on the head, the two that you said is kind of the two that I'm like.

Speaker 1:

And it was our last two picks right yeah, my last pick, your last pick, number seven on each so maybe we didn't need those, but uh all right, I'm good with it. So it doesn't matter who blocks what. I'm gonna drop my polar express because I don't like that.

Speaker 2:

Okay, then I'm gonna here. Let me look again and make sure I didn't miss something yeah, he's just doing this thing. Drop two of mine so I played the villain here no but I think what, what? We started the list with um. I hope you know our listeners. I'm sure there's some that don't, because we don't have a lot of traditional stuff.

Speaker 1:

Well, I texted a few people last night and was just trying to see if there's more things to the list that I didn't really know. A couple of people I texted sent some very old movies I had never seen. Okay, and nothing against those movies, I'll probably end up watching them because they really like the movies. I've not seen them and it'd be really hard for me to pick them over something having not seen them.

Speaker 2:

This was so challenging getting to 12. Yeah, and that's the thing. The only other one on here, but it's definitely the kids' one, is the Muppet Christmas Carol. I don't know that one. Yeah, so I'm but that's the same story of the jim carrey one, it's just different I just don't know how they do it. Yeah, you know, I don't know so yeah, I mean I'm fine with that. I think we both agree. That's the bottom two.

Speaker 1:

That's why they're picked last yeah, that's kind of how I feel about. It's like I just get rid of that one.

Speaker 2:

The muppets christmas carol would have been my second your other option just I got you because I don't know, but I've never seen it either. You've never seen it, but you like it.

Speaker 1:

It's definitely dated. I mean, don't get me wrong, it did not age great. Which a lot of those movies don't? I mean the first Santa Claus.

Speaker 2:

I don't know how long it's been since you watched that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, but I love it, do you remember?

Speaker 2:

the animatronic reindeer yes, they are awful.

Speaker 1:

They are awful. But what I love about that movie, it is a idea and take on santa claus and christmas. We've not seen anything else like it?

Speaker 2:

no, it's very different. That's what I like about it is it's well, so I think it was last year they done like six episodes on disney, that kind of followed up from that which I actually finished watching the second one.

Speaker 1:

Did you watch it okay? Which they're different to me I would not pick the second one to put on the list. It's. It's just a lot more corny. It's good. Yeah, it just feels way more corny than the first one. Yeah, the third one I think we talked about this. We didn't even put it on our list to pick from like we, just we really don't like it. But I'm probably gonna back and watch it, because I do well, so are you gonna watch those episodes also?

Speaker 1:

yes, I want to go watch those also that's so I want to watch the third one, which is jack frost martin sheen. Maybe that played that. I can't really remember, um, but I'm gonna watch it. That is actually and because, honestly, like when we were talking about santa claus too I couldn't even picture who mrs claus ended up being okay, I couldn't picture the woman.

Speaker 2:

Usually one and two I watch.

Speaker 1:

Every year I watch one pretty often as far as Christmas goes in a few years, but I haven't watched two in forever so I was like, yeah, I need to at least go back and watch that.

Speaker 2:

Well, let's go ahead and read our listeners, our list, real quick, all right, so the final list which your veto.

Speaker 1:

Jim Carrey, you know, pull a fast one on me no, I'm gonna final list in no particular order. This is because, honestly, I don't think I picked mine in the order. I would even seed them like I didn't necessarily pick them in that award.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of just more that I did either, where I went with it.

Speaker 1:

Um so final list. We will have the bracket out as soon as we can. Santa claus, the first home alone. Elf, christmas with the cranks national lamp, lampoon's Christmas Vacation. The Jim Carrey Grinch it's a Wonderful Life, jingle All the Way. Muppets, christmas Carol, home Alone 2, die Hard. And then the New Grinch.

Speaker 2:

Okay, First two out Polar Express.

Speaker 1:

First two out was Polar Express and the Jim Carrey Christmas Carol. Christmas Carol, okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, they got right there. They just couldn't cut it.

Speaker 1:

I'm not really upset with the list. I don't think the list is bad.

Speaker 2:

I'm not either.

Speaker 1:

Obviously you're against the diehard pick, but I think it's one of those that's controversial enough that I'm like man, it's got to go in, it just has to.

Speaker 2:

Is it controversial enough that we're looking at 10 through 14? Going man, they should have made it. You going man, they should have made it. You know how college football is.

Speaker 1:

No, I don't think R-12 is as controversial as college football Except diehard, because I mean I'm still on the whole college football. Arizona State did not deserve a bye Like that's so ridiculous.

Speaker 2:

to me, it's all about who they played. So for me, diehard is Arizona State. Oh, definitely not.

Speaker 1:

It got in, but it's been around forever. They've been good and they're finally just getting some recognition. Getting some recognition.

Speaker 2:

Listen the people have voted. Hey, if this was a movie bracket or action movie bracket, oh, it's not making a movie bracket. You know it'd be good, my movie bracket, it wouldn't even make that. Well, that's true.

Speaker 1:

There's too many other to be March Madness.

Speaker 2:

It's going to have to be 64.

Speaker 1:

Well, there's several. I'm going to pick on that that you're like I've never seen and I really want to pick them to make you watch them.

Speaker 2:

I don't have time to watch 64 movies Not 64, but there's a few that I'm like man, I want to make him watch those Typically like Star Wars.

Speaker 1:

You've never seen star wars or um, outside of like spider-man, I've never seen anything. Oh, that's heartbreaking. You know any of the? Uh, because that's so the hard part. What are they all? The marvels, mcu? Yeah, marvel cinematic. I've pretty much seen everything in that, but growing up that was the stuff I watched on TV, like the Spider-Man cartoons, the Batman cartoons, which you know, dc, whatever but I love that stuff. So I've watched all that because I was never into comics. Comics was something I never got into that.

Speaker 1:

I didn't really understand the desire to be into that, but those movies and stuff it's. They were fun. It was kind of like reliving childhood so it's interesting.

Speaker 2:

I probably would like them, probably, I just never have Now.

Speaker 1:

I know my brother hates stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I watched Hancock. That was good. That movie sucks. I hate that movie.

Speaker 1:

I know you were going to say that that's the worst superhero movie ever made.

Speaker 2:

You know yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay, it's not the worst superhero movie ever made None of the Lord of Rings?

Speaker 2:

none of that stuff I've never seen. No, I love Lord of the Rings too.

Speaker 1:

I like a lot of that fantasy stuff, Like it's not. I'm not super deep into any of that, I just I think they're interesting.

Speaker 2:

They make for good movies. Yeah, it's good content.

Speaker 1:

I've just never had the desire movies long if you go watch lord of the rings. Yeah, you're in it, I'm out. You're in it for a while so I love watching movies.

Speaker 2:

Um it's, it's almost like you can sit down and you're in another world for just a little bit.

Speaker 1:

Well, so that's what I like about some of those, especially because it's it's not even like real world, like it feels like something completely different, not that you know. I'm looking for an escape.

Speaker 2:

It's just fun to kind of have something different. Take your mind on something else for a little bit.

Speaker 1:

And then too, like, especially like all the Marvel stuff, there's so many just like little funny moments that they can just throw in there.

Speaker 2:

Well, that would help, because I love action movies and comedies. Yes, and when you put them together, it's even better, them together, it's even better.

Speaker 1:

true, but that so when you have some little comedies in there and stuff that would be fun. Well, we were really excited about the bracket. I think it turned out pretty solid. Um, the picks may have been a little bit slower, so, um, I think we're kind of right here, to the tail end of everything. I'd like to close it off.

Speaker 2:

You know, we we did go maybe a hair longer than typical, but we're really excited about this bracket and we bet now that means next week, but now I do gotta ask you one question okay, yeah so you go ahead, finish your thought well, I was thinking.

Speaker 1:

Next I mean next week we will go through, we will have a winner. Like we will be ahead of the college football playoff, we will have a champion for christmas it'll be on christmas.

Speaker 2:

You need to know what's the best movie, and you gotta go watch it.

Speaker 1:

You gotta watch it. There's a few, though, man. It's gonna be hard get down to like some semi-final matchups. It's gonna be really hard it is gonna be hard and that's where we may have you and I split and we'll get some tiebreakers and, um, I think we've got a couple ideas for some tiebreakers, maybe a few individuals that could be pretty impartial, and then we've also talked about basically a fan vote being being a tiebreaker.

Speaker 2:

But one thing I don't want to skip over. You watched it. I didn't really get to watch it.

Speaker 1:

Uh, the golf match last night oh, so, yes, oh, my gosh, quick, give us. I'm gonna try not to go super deep in that.

Speaker 2:

I have two thoughts on it because I don't want to pass it up and it'd be too no, well, so so first off, I guess I'll have three thoughts on it first off. Now he's got four and five no, I mean, I could go there, but this is all really quick stuff okay, uh, pga tour ended up winning pretty easily okay, so that was scheffler and scheffler and rory mcclellan okay, beat brooks, kepka and bryson to shame I.

Speaker 1:

I figured that would happen, so I did, but at the same time rory and scotty has still been playing tournaments over the past little bit, where the live guys haven't played since september in the tournament, Scotty's or not, Scotty Bryson's been hitting over his house.

Speaker 2:

That's some practice.

Speaker 1:

Well, so I mean, he does so much YouTube stuff.

Speaker 2:

He's playing all the time. I don't know how much Brooks has really been playing, but it's different in competition, but it's very different.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, tournament style play is very different. Didn't even know that was happening today. I didn't other than like we've talked about. I would have watched it up um, so if you're really into golf, you probably really enjoyed it, like I. I thought it was a fun idea. The first basically six holes were in daylight.

Speaker 2:

Everything else was they replay because I would like to go watch it I'm sure somewhere it'll get replayed. I can't believe on social media or something, because you know I'm obviously on our social media for 4U Golf a lot Correct, so we do a lot of golf stuff there. And then there's other golf stuff I look at and golf equipment and whatever online you would think I'd get an ad.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't displayed as well as I think it could have been. You weren't seeing commercials, you weren't seeing a huge.

Speaker 2:

So was it on ESPN, or who put it on?

Speaker 1:

No, I watched it on TNT, tnt, okay. So when I clicked to watch it last night I was actually a few minutes late, but they were teeing off on the first hole. It was like TNT, tbs and one other option.

Speaker 2:

I picked TNT because, oh, they had it on several channels at once. Yes, Okay.

Speaker 1:

I think they're all owned by the same company so it didn't really mean much.

Speaker 2:

It used to be Turner.

Speaker 1:

Broadcasting Charles Barkley on there. He's funny with all the golf stuff, which I love. Watching their NBA show as well.

Speaker 2:

I'd rather watch that than actually the NBA games. Oh, me too.

Speaker 1:

Him and Shaq are just they crack me up. Oh, there was a video the other day, exactly, exactly. It was funny. I'm not going there, but it was really funny. I saw that clip. Just look up Charles and Shaq and the video and you'll find it so that, yeah, I mean, it was good, they had some good people involved with it. You know, made some good funny lines. You know them just back and forth were they mic'd up or anything?

Speaker 2:

yes, oh yeah, they were mic'd up the whole time. Um, I'm gonna go see.

Speaker 1:

Format was fun they did a full 18, really good course so was it best ball or? So they the first six holes were best ball. Next six were alternate shot. Last six were basically one-on-one matches. Okay, pga won it in 14. Like we didn't even get to see the last four holes. That's what I'm saying it didn't even get there, wow. So basically, if you won the first six, you got a point.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it was point system, yeah it was point system.

Speaker 1:

If you won the first six, you got a point. You won the next six, you get a point, and then each of the individuals was worth a point as they go.

Speaker 2:

So it was over quicker than I think we all really wanted it to be they should have let them go ahead and finish out to see what the final score would have been, but I know it wouldn't have made a difference At that point it's like we're doing broadcasting for no reason.

Speaker 1:

At this point the match is already advertised it enough people, so nobody's watching it. You know, like me, I mean, I think a lot of people watched it. I think especially big time golf fans really watched it. Um, but my other takeaway on it is it was too traditional feeling of a broadcast. It felt more like just watching a tournament on tv.

Speaker 1:

yeah, okay, I don't like that if we're trying to get the younger age and we're really trying to push some of that, as much as I hate to say what I'm about to say, it almost needed to have more of that youtube feel. Less time between shots, more of the funny banter clipped a certain way.

Speaker 1:

That's what I've liked in the past when they do those matches which, which they do, shorter a lot of those, and that may be part of it, but I think there is some personality here, but there's also not a ton, not a ton. Scotty and Rory are not two big personality guys. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, I like the ones where they put an athlete or somebody else with them when they've done like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so they did some of those Because those are personalities At this point. They've done quite a few of those and most of them I didn't watch because it wasn't people I cared to watch.

Speaker 2:

No, I cared more about the banter back and forth than the actual golf with those.

Speaker 1:

And then some people. I feel like they're just trying to push down your throat instead of actual fun people on a golf course. So I think they need to live it up a little bit. It needs to be a little bit more fun. I would love to see it mid-season, where people are in their prime. Yeah, good weather, huge crowd, because look it was.

Speaker 2:

I want to make it like like one of the greatest movies of all time, happy gilmore. I want to have you know the pga over here with their shirts tucked in the pants and the guys up here got their beach balls. Yeah, I want to say they got the boom box out, and you know their shorts on and what I want to see, Did anybody wear shorts? I want to know that. No, oh man, it was cold. Though the Liv guys had.

Speaker 1:

I don't care, no, but it was cold Like Bryson literally before the sun went down, had a puffy coat on Did he really Like I mean it was pretty PGA event that the live guys show up in shorts. I want to see a Ryder Cup style.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh, that would be fun.

Speaker 1:

I want to see PGA versus live Ryder Cup. That would get some attention. Call it whatever you want, I don't really care, because before long they're going to join again, the stuff is going to happen.

Speaker 2:

Hey, so you've got wrestling right. We've watched wrestling with kids and stuff. Anybody watch wrestling. They're they're all on the same promotion. You know, back in the day it was uh, oh yeah, ww or wcw was. It was one of the big ones, yeah, and but you had the nwo. They all work for wcw. Right, we got, we can still have these separate.

Speaker 1:

You know, let's bring, let's get the nwo out here on on the golf course um, I, I do think I would love to see that, because having only four guys like it's there's just not enough. Action like golf has done a really good job here in you know, much more recent years less dead time between shots, even if it's not necessarily somebody you know, you're seeing shots a lot more often. So I think if you've got multiple matches happening at the same, time.

Speaker 2:

You've got a lot going on you add more PGA guys more.

Speaker 1:

live guys, when you have more personality, but then for live it does a good job, because they could then kind of squeak in some guys that aren't the main guys that left pga yeah, you can have some of those others that have kind of done really well in it well, I want to see him go to live and say play up that, that villain role like, like, be that, but I don't think that was ever the intent for them no, I think it's just what everybody, but it is the pga people put that on them.

Speaker 1:

I don't think there's ever really anything.

Speaker 2:

So let's play it, but.

Speaker 1:

I mean we've got, in the past couple of days, jay Monahan, the head of PGA, come out and said we're looking for a CEO. Currently, obviously, pga switched their format. They're now privately owned. All the reports are that Liv is getting ready to have a 6% to 10% ownership in PGA. So it's all coming back and it needs to. It needs to. I agree. I'm fine with having separate leagues, but I want to see the good golfers play the good golfers at certain times I want to see some different match types throughout the year, not just one.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's, that's what's excited, exciting to me about the tgl. Yeah, like seeing the team aspect, which I think live is going to do better, which I actually just saw today. Liv is really close to a deal with Fox Sports. If they get that I think they're more legitimate If they say you're going to have cleared out space, it's going to play your tournaments, we're going to see it on TV. That's a huge thing for them.

Speaker 2:

Because the CW was a terrible idea. It was awful. Some traditionalists might hate it, but if they got together and really played this you versus us type thing and even if neither one's a villain, it'd be fun. It would make for some entertainment. That's why I like the idea of that like rider cup style.

Speaker 1:

For that, and I also think for that it makes the american rider cup team better, because we're picking guys from both sides. At this point it does. We've picked brooks at one point, we've picked bryson, like bring those guys, make them play against each other, and then when we go put our good team out there, we've got a chance. Yeah, because we got our butts whooped in France.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if they ever do it because Italy this last year. Pga is such a traditionalist. The style they have the four days. Well, but did you see?

Speaker 1:

the creator board they just made. They've got a bunch of YouTube guys that are now on a PGA creators board to help grow all of that stuff. Well, they needed to do something and they've got some really good people on it. You know the Bryan brothers, they're both on there. Roger Steele, who's a huge part of TGL, he's fun to watch. He hits it a long way. He's a lot of fun to watch. Bob does sports somehow.

Speaker 2:

Those guys made it on there, which is hilarious, but it's people like that that are successful in the modern times of making it so popular, and I'm hoping they'll take some ideas from that style.

Speaker 1:

I don't want it to go all.

Speaker 2:

YouTube. They don't have to get too crazy. It has to make some changes. Yeah, they have to.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I just think we've got to.

Speaker 2:

Are they afraid to lose the older generation who still kind of has that traditional views?

Speaker 1:

So I get it. When your average viewership is in the 60s, I do get. That's where more of your money is, so, like when all these club manufacturers who it's $600, $700 for a driver, $1,500 for irons, all these crazy prices that the golf industry is going to, that's the guys that can afford it. So when you're pushing out all your stuff, that's where the money comes in, that's the guys that can afford it.

Speaker 2:

So when you're pushing out, all your stuff.

Speaker 1:

that's where the money comes in, that's where you put it to. But at the same time, the younger group, if they really get behind it, it'll get way bigger.

Speaker 2:

Well, the younger group are the ones that's going to follow everything on TV.

Speaker 1:

Literally everything.

Speaker 2:

The younger group are the ones that's going to show up at your event and make it fun and entertaining and pay high dollar tickets.

Speaker 1:

There's a reason that they're making so many more strict rules for the waste management this year. Okay, Because that younger group got involved and they got crazy last year, yep, and so now the PGA and I'm not saying that they didn't need more rules.

Speaker 2:

But they will, because it'd get out of hand. They will pay up for ticket prices.

Speaker 1:

But those people make it crazy and that's like I said. Live is almost too far that way. It's like every tournament needs to be that way and it's like we got to find that fine line there's a middle ground the shorts. Oh my gosh, let him wear shorts. Yeah, nobody cares. Yeah, it's so dumb, it's so dumb. Well, we said I'm not.

Speaker 2:

But then there's some things like I couldn't be on tour because they'd make me wear pants.

Speaker 1:

Now I I maybe get like a couple of places. Augusta, maybe you have to wear pants there just the because it is that old it's a classic thing, but when we go? When we go to phoenix, when we're at, honestly, like pebble, I don't care if they're well, they're at the beach. What's the matter? Now? A lot of those, a lot of those country clubs are. Here's our rules, this that you know well yeah, certain color socks.

Speaker 2:

We've talked about this. I just don't like it. And we've talked about the past. I don't think it's, and we've talked about it in the past. I don't think it's made it on the podcast we put out, but we really need to get rid of that old feel, the country club mentality. Especially local courses. Start welcoming the non-golfers, the people that are trying to get into golf. Stop making them feel like they have to look a certain way or have a certain equipment. Let them come out and just enjoy themselves.

Speaker 1:

They're not causing problems. If it's a paid membership country club, it's private.

Speaker 2:

You do what you want.

Speaker 1:

That's your choice, but we've got a couple of courses locally. I'm sure you probably think of the same ones that are overly strict, with some just comments that I've heard, and it's like you're not growing golf by doing that.

Speaker 2:

No, when I first played golf.

Speaker 1:

There's a certain course with a certain starter.

Speaker 2:

That has it out for literally everyone.

Speaker 1:

You play too slow.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we've got to pick up pace.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's just ridiculous. You've got nobody behind you, nobody in front of you, the course is empty and you're telling me I've got to keep a certain pace. What's it?

Speaker 2:

matter. Well, that's when I first started playing golf and I went with people who knew how to play golf, right, and it was still a little bit intimidating. I didn't know the rules. All the rules of how you're supposed to dress, all this stuff that you can get really kind of shunned for.

Speaker 1:

Think how many times we went and played little par 3 courses because nobody cared, because we were too afraid. Almost afraid, I guess, was the best word to go to a course. It's kind of daunting. I don't want to go there and shoot 200. But also I don't know all the rules. I don't know all the rules.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what should. I wear, I don't know all that it's intimidating from the golf course but you don't want to look stupid in front of the other golfers. And then you have some other golfers who kind of get mad if you're slowing them down or doing something the wrong way and really those guys should be helping and teaching the others what you should and shouldn't do and kind of etiquette and stuff. There's a lot of.

Speaker 1:

if you are not below a certain handicap, you can't play you almost have to have an amateur card to be able to play Okay.

Speaker 2:

Because they're trying to keep that pace and everything At some of those courses, it's like 14, 15.

Speaker 1:

You've got to be pretty solid. Yeah, I mean that's.

Speaker 2:

That's a really good. There's a lot of golfers that wouldn't meet that.

Speaker 1:

That's a solid golfer, yeah, so yeah me. I don't like slow play. We've said this forever we're not the greatest of golfers.

Speaker 2:

But we're not gonna play, so we're not gonna play slow.

Speaker 1:

No, I don't like slow, but as long I don't care if you're slow. If you, let me go through. If you'll let me play through. You take as long as you want. It doesn't matter to me, because you're not slowing me down at that point no so it's, it's the ones that it's. They're super slow or they're trying to have 15 people playing on the same hole. It's like all right, that's just too much.

Speaker 2:

Well, this is what we've done with 4U Golf. Is we welcome everybody, come have fun Come enjoy it. You can play on the top tracer. You can practice on the grass the putting tee.

Speaker 1:

The reason we keep free clubs out there. They're not high quality, but we do it because we want to grow.

Speaker 2:

If you don't, have clubs, come keep your clothes on, but if you have a t-shirt and shorts, on flip flops.

Speaker 1:

keep your clothes on. Nobody wants to see that, yeah.

Speaker 2:

There's no dress code per se, as long as you keep everything covered.

Speaker 1:

I'm. I know there's. We've had several of the guys out there, you know, wanting to take their shirts off. I always ask them and everybody's really nice about it, but it's really more's, not a but you don't have to wear a polo and a skirt.

Speaker 2:

Please don't you know. Please don't t-shirt and shorts. I mean, come hang out, I want to work with buddies.

Speaker 1:

Every time he comes and hits, he's in sandals. He's in sandals every time and nobody cares about that he's a great golfer too oh, he's very good. He's a scratch guy, yeah, um, you know I'm a little jealous of some of his stuff, but, um, but, yep with that. Yeah, I, I want to grow it, but I'm not going to be the country club type.

Speaker 2:

So I exactly, and I know we went a little long here today, so hopefully everybody stuck with us. Uh, but we had to get that bracket in.

Speaker 1:

That's so important I'm really excited about talking about it next week, so I I do want to ask real quick are you feeling christmas yet?

Speaker 2:

because I it took me a little bit to get there.

Speaker 1:

I finally got some more lights I don't know that I'm still there it's been maybe, watching these movies will help us. So I will say that's helped a little, because then, like last night, sitting there with the christmas tree on everything, I'm like all right, like it's, it's, it's kind of good. But then throughout, especially throughout my day, and it's 68 degrees, I'm like I was gonna ask that next do you need some cold weather?

Speaker 2:

Will that help?

Speaker 1:

As long as it's not cold and rain, because that's what they're forecasting, right now it's cold and rainy and I don't want that.

Speaker 2:

Can we get like 40 and some snow?

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, no no, no, no, Shut your mouth. I'm okay with just a cover.

Speaker 2:

If it's 40, just let it snow at night, If you like Christmas it can kind but I don't like the mist. I don't think it's pretty. It depends on what you get. You've got to get enough of it.

Speaker 1:

It can't be. The sun shines off of it.

Speaker 2:

You're squinting everywhere. Well, that's true, you've got to put on sunglasses. I wear sunglasses everywhere, my eyes are basically black. I never wear sunglasses, but it's just annoying. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm not a snow person, I'm not a prefer warm weather. I prefer golf weather typically, like that's, you know it's no golf we could try a lot of people it's just the.

Speaker 1:

I guess it sounds weird. I'm only 34, but the older I've gotten. Really the only athletic thing I I have which you know doesn't take a ton of athleticism is golf. Like that's really the only thing I really have left. Um, my body just doesn't do the things anymore that I used to do. So like that's what I have. So like really have left. Um, my body just doesn't do the things anymore that I used to do. So like that's what I have. So like I hate to not have a time where I can do that.

Speaker 2:

So that that's really the biggest thing for me is like I just, I love it, I get that, but hopefully we find some Christmas spirit. We've got kids, you know, I think I think by the weekend.

Speaker 1:

I think this weekend it really kind of hit home we're there and then I think I mean, I think helps talk about christmas movies getting watching.

Speaker 2:

We're probably um, it's late get out, but I'll probably watch at least one of these tonight yeah, I may too. I've got one in mind that I kind of want to go back and I gotta do a little more christmas shopping tomorrow, so that may give me more of the spirit yeah, I gotta do something we want to get out and go to some of these uh lights that you drive through and stuff maybe that helps yeah so hopefully.

Speaker 1:

Actually, I don't think I've listened to any christmas music this year. I don't.

Speaker 2:

I haven't really heard it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're right, I don't turn the radio on much.

Speaker 2:

I'm more of a spotify person, but hopefully all the listeners you're gonna get in the christmas mood if you yeah, if you want to be.

Speaker 1:

Maybe you don't want to be, that's okay too well, like we said, it's a week away, um so, first off, you know, we want to say merry christmas to everybody everybody. Yeah, um, you know, enjoy the family. I do love this time of year, though I love holidays.

Speaker 2:

That's awesome. A lot of people get off work and yeah, yeah so again, merry christmas.

Speaker 1:

We really hope to see your involvement in our bracket um some of the voting, because I think it's gonna be a lot of fun and tune in next week, for please don't yell at us about the ones we left off.

Speaker 2:

Oh yell, I don't care. Yell at me, be angry.

Speaker 1:

I think that's more fun, but please join us next week. See the winner. You know, obviously we'll post about it after and everything. But you know, come with us and see. See what we pick see if you agree with us yeah, and if you don't tell us, why tell us what your favorite is? You know we love the, the interactions. So again for the third time, you know, merry christmas, we hope you guys have a great week and we'll see you soon. Merry christmas, see you next week.