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Oceans, Football, and Unexpected Laughs
What if the mysteries of the deep sea hold secrets more astonishing than outer space? Join us as we navigate through the chilling notion of being alone in open water, questioning why so much focus is placed on exploring the stars when our oceans harbor so many untold stories. Recent congressional hearings have even suggested the tantalizing possibility of unidentified objects emerging from the ocean's depths. It's a conversation that might just change how you view the world both above and beneath the waves.
Our journey then takes an unexpected turn into the heart-pounding world of college football, where rivalries blaze hotter than a midsummer sun. From flag-planting controversies to the intricacies of playoff brackets, we dissect the emotions that run wild in the stadiums and ponder what it means for sportsmanship. The debate over playoff rankings gets intense as we question the system and its inconsistencies. Whether you're shouting from the stands or critiquing from your couch, this is one discussion that's sure to stir as much passion as a last-minute touchdown.
Amidst the sports talk, we lighten the mood with a collection of humorous anecdotes and everyday musings, from Thanksgiving plate dilemmas to unexpected banter about Shark Week fears. We also indulge in the quirks of golf personalities and the striking presence of college basketball players. Our conversation wraps up with reflections on self-improvement and the unpredictable nature of life. So sit back, relax, and prepare for a rollercoaster of emotions and laughter that promises to keep you entertained from start to finish.
welcome back everybody to not amused nice uh, wednesday night, after about two hours of technical difficulties and finally you're on the mic.
Speaker 2:And finally got to go A late Wednesday night. Yeah, it's a late Wednesday night. I might get a little slap happy here.
Speaker 1:You never know what you're going to get tonight. You never know originally, but now definitely. As late as it gets, the ending of this could get all kinds of crazy Can.
Speaker 2:I ask you just a crazy random question. I love crazy random questions. Go ahead, let's just go for it, right, okay, okay, I saw this the other day and I put this on on a note. I just want to ask you, okay, when you think of the ocean and I know you've been on cruises and all this- stuff yeah, yeah, and who knows what's even in there. I I'm just gonna make it simple. Are you afraid of the ocean? Like, think about out there in the middle of the ocean water just open water late at night it's dark, you can't see anything.
Speaker 1:I guess it would depend because, like, if I'm on a cruise ship, I don't, you don't even notice it, like you can look out across open water and you don't really think of it you don't think it's just so much going on in the. I've never been on a cruise so well too, like if you actually look at the map when you're on a cruise, like a lot of times, they'll have a map of your boat, like where it's going.
Speaker 1:You're barely just out of eyesight of land like okay, so you're never out there you're not talking like we're crossing, because there's actually a story right now a guy that's crossing the pacific by himself that is crazy left california on his way to, basically, you know, towards japan and all that can you imagine? How that is out there in the middle of no, I can't imagine that, because I want to say middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2:but but you're on water, so you know, I think I'd rather be stuck in the middle of the desert somewhere than a middle of the water.
Speaker 1:There's just so much that could go wrong. I mean a storm that pops up or you know some kind of rogue wave.
Speaker 2:I'm worried about what's in there. Like we don't know, I mean we know it's some crazy stuff.
Speaker 1:I guess, depending on the boat you're on, like, if you're on a large enough boat, it has to be something pretty crazy. That's in the water.
Speaker 2:We don't know what's in there.
Speaker 1:We don't know that's. It still blows my mind how little we know about our own oceans and our own planet.
Speaker 2:Really you know I didn't even plan on saying this, but that that brings me to a point that's crazy to me. We spend so much money and time in space and trying to space. Why do we not spend that much money and time in the?
Speaker 1:by the way, maybe we do, it's just not publicized as much but maybe, maybe it's just not as interesting of a topic I guess. I mean, it is to me like I think it's very interesting, like I want to know what's down there. Now I'll I'll tell you this because there's been congressional hearings here recently about this and again not something I even planned on talking about, but you just brought this up, so I'm like, all right, we're going there it's gonna get weird.
Speaker 1:So congressional hearings first couple of days of december or last few days of november. Okay see, I know nothing about this yeah, yeah yeah, so, um, I don't remember the, the actual company that was part of this, but it's basically government funded and it's talking about they use fancy terms basically UFOs in the ocean, that they're not actually coming from space, they're actually coming out of the ocean.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness that they've got like these videos and things, and apparently there's some new um documentary on Netflix that shows like this, some kind of object that kind of abruptly moves and then goes down into the water I mean, when I started this conversation, I don't know, I was thinking because I saw a video of like a ship way out in the middle of the ocean, out in the middle of nowhere and it's wavy and pitch black, and and I was thinking, yeah, I'm kind of scared the ocean, I don't want to be out there in the middle of that. Well, now you're telling me it could be you, I coming out of the ocean.
Speaker 1:Well, they have all kinds of fancy terms for it.
Speaker 2:I just kind of lost my voice there. If you notice, I sound like the announcer over at Ohio State. We'll talk about that later.
Speaker 1:I didn't even notice it the day of the game, but I also didn't have the sound up very loud.
Speaker 2:Hey, don't go even to UFOs now. Wait a minute, we'll go to that in a minute?
Speaker 1:No, yeah, supposedly the government. You know, we really trust those guys. The government is talking about how these basic UFOs again, there's a different term that they use. But I didn't go through all these.
Speaker 2:I was going to say that's an unidentified flying object, I think, or something Right? Well, if it's in the ocean, it's not flying. Technically, no but they're basically saying that they leave from the ocean and they go back to it.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay that it's not flying technically no, but they're basically saying that they leave from the ocean, oh, and then they go back to it. Oh, okay, that it's basically. They're not coming from space, they're coming that's interesting out of the ocean. And then, of course, you have some really craziness of people.
Speaker 2:That's when I said we're spending more money and time in space than the ocean.
Speaker 1:I did not know that well, but then you start talking about that and I was like actually, I literally just listened to something One of the podcasts I listened to a couple days ago and they were talking about it and they're like what we don't understand is why nobody else is talking about this, because this is the government coming out and saying, hey, we have this, and nobody said a word about it.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. Yeah, I'm definitely scared of the ocean now.
Speaker 1:I mean Well, so so I'm not a big fan of the ocean. Like when we all do our big family vacations and stuff, we go to the beach, obviously, I hate sand.
Speaker 2:Sand is horrible. You're more scared of the sand than you are. No, I'm not scared of the sand Like.
Speaker 1:I just hate it. It gets everywhere and it's just no matter how many showers you take, you still have sand on you. That is true.
Speaker 2:You just can't get away from it. The worst is when you just sit down in the sand and the edge of the water.
Speaker 1:I don't do that. The water's coming up.
Speaker 2:I don't like to do that. You'll get sand out of your shorts for a week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can switch shorts and I still have sand. It's just like the crevices are just full of them.
Speaker 2:That is very true. I get in the water a little bit with the ocean and I'm not scared of the ocean in that sense, I guess I I know there's creatures that can come up, and so it's still kind of odd. I guess I love Shark.
Speaker 1:Week. I think it's great Shark Week's awesome.
Speaker 2:Because you can just sit at home and watch it. Exactly.
Speaker 1:I don't, and again, not that well. You know humans are ahead of the food chain. No, nothing about like that, but it's when you're in the water. You have so little control.
Speaker 1:Not even talking about, like the animals, but like the water itself, if the current is is heavy enough, the riptide is heavy enough, you can't do anything. Well, you're in their home at that point. So, yeah, it's up to them. Yeah, that's. That's not a comfortable feeling. So, no, I'm not. I'm not a big fan of stuff like that. Apparently, this podcast is turning into all my fears.
Speaker 2:I'm not really sure how this happened, but I don't like it I don't know either how this happened, but this is where we're're at.
Speaker 1:You like to bring things up, and this is how it goes.
Speaker 2:I did not know it was going to get to this and fears of sand and stuff. I didn't know that was a fear to begin with. No, I don't fear sand, I just don't like sand. Well, I think the sharks and all that stuff is cool. And people say when you get bit.
Speaker 1:I love the aquarium.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you're in the ocean. What do you expect here in their home? I still don't want to get bit by a shark.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know, if they come up on the land, I'm not going to bite them. So everyone that lives in Africa or India well, you got bit by a lion or a tiger, you're in their land, Right? I just don't want that to happen. I just don't know what would happen, Like it interrupted your space or whatever you want to call it. Anyways.
Speaker 2:I brought this out of nowhere.
Speaker 1:You did. I had no idea we were going there.
Speaker 2:I didn't either, to be honest with you. Episode three, Episode three Again happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1:We're the week after Thanksgiving, just finished up some great college football, some really good college football, some really heated college football. That's definitely something I. Some really heated college football, that's definitely something I was wanting to bring up tonight. There was like what? Eight fights this past weekend oh my gosh, and some of the games were not just like guys getting into a couple flags, these were full on.
Speaker 2:Now it was post game. All these were post game. Putting the flags on somebody else's logo was a hot topic.
Speaker 1:So real quick. These were all either flag or item related, because in one of them it was a pitchfork with arizona oh, that's right, I saw that one um ohio state michigan obviously that was one of the big ones because that's in one of the biggest games in the country. So people get paper sprayed nc state and unc, auburn and alabama a scuffle. It wasn't because of a flag, that was like the only one that was actually mid-game. Arizona State, arizona Florida, florida State.
Speaker 2:All those games, all those rivalry games.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which rivalry games are wild. Anyways, there's some real hate in these rivalries there really is. There really is. I mean, ohio State takes it super serious to not use the letter m on anything.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know the amount of time and money that they spend covering all those cover it all like send it to something else like how do you feel about playing the flags and the with the pitch work in that one?
Speaker 1:instance. Well, again I'm, I'm a little more old school, I guess I. I just think it's stupid, like it is one. It's a big game cool, go, celebrate, be happy. But it think it's stupid, like it is one. It's a big game, cool, go celebrate, be happy, but it's it's almost like a just a slap to the face Like it's just not, it's not needed. Like you already won you you may. You proved your point, that's just a bit, I agree with that.
Speaker 2:Um, you know you side of that. If you're the one getting upset at it, just beat them every time they're on your home. Be better, beat them. How many times we said that be better. If you won the game, they wouldn't be out there doing that now. Also, don't be the team who whines and cries because you did that to my field and they get mad. I come to your field and beat you and do it. Oh no 100.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you're, if you're one way you gotta be like you've got to go, if you're gonna do it there, it's got to be okay when it happens to you and I don't feel like anybody is.
Speaker 2:No they're not. I'm just going to bring this up because you said at Michigan-Ohio State, michigan put down Ohio State's field and they said one of the players made a comment that they need to learn how to lose because they got mad at him for doing it Right. Well then, if Ohio State comes there next year to your house and does it, don't it happen now? At that point you have to let it happen exactly by those words now again they're not going to let it happen but no, now what I will say.
Speaker 1:I loved what uh michigan's coach said about it. He just basically said it's, it's unnecessary, like it was pointless I agree with that you, you won, you proved your point. Let's go celebrate together like why? What's the point? Did that start from baker mayfield? At ohio state. Actually he did that and of course he's weekend. Oh, you got to just get over it. Quit being a baby and it's like well, yeah, of course he's there because you love it.
Speaker 2:You think it's great. Where does that stop? Couldn't you say that?
Speaker 1:With literally anything.
Speaker 2:We're going to I don't know. We're going to vandalize your stadium because we just beat you Now.
Speaker 1:They showed a highlight. I can't remember if it was Florida or Florida State that it happened. Yep, somebody cut a piece of the field out.
Speaker 2:That's way too far, but it happened, I think, to them in the past.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's okay then I just think it's like that's stupid.
Speaker 2:No, it is stupid.
Speaker 1:Because even then the football team has nothing to do with that.
Speaker 2:The ground screw that's coming to fix it.
Speaker 1:it's like come on, that's vandalism. At that point, that's the point. At what point does it stop the flag's no?
Speaker 2:damage. I mean can I take your mascot home because I just beat you? Can I steal your mascot?
Speaker 1:I mean, that was an old thing, it was In those days they used to steal mascots a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, so I agree with you.
Speaker 1:It's not necessary Play the football game the damage, the vandalism, whatever you want to call it. That to me is overboard, like beyond overboard. Yeah, the flag stuff I think is stupid, but it causes zero harm it does. It's an ego thing more than anything, it's just a you know we conquered you. And it's a very old, you know medieval times. You plant your flag when you conquer something yeah.
Speaker 1:If you lose go to the locker room and don't even know they do it right, right, just go on. Let it be a fan thing that fans talk about.
Speaker 2:Don't let it be something that your team talks about yeah well, especially next year, if you want, especially for ohio state, or especially for some of these big teams that are potentially playoff bound.
Speaker 1:That could stem suspensions. That could stem a lot of stuff we already saw some big fines. I mean they find a hundred thousand dollars, which I don't really know if schools like that even notice that kind of money, because that's not really that big of money for these, you know multi-million dollar programs.
Speaker 2:But still it's. You know they started those fines with storming the, the court in the, in the fields and yep, and it's supposed to get more and more and more. It hasn't stopped it.
Speaker 1:It's never going to stop. I mean, but here's the thing the fans aren't paying fine, exactly, the fans don't care, but I think what everybody thought was okay.
Speaker 2:The school's going to hire more security or something like that if they think it's going to happen. But you don't know when it's going to happen anymore. Last night Cle more I last night comes in kentucky storm the court december 3rd.
Speaker 1:Who saw that coming now? Don't be wrong, it's kentucky. Everybody wants to be kentucky, right, yeah, but again I understand it.
Speaker 2:For clemson that's a really big game, but it's not the first big game they've ever won there it's not but but that's my point like nobody probably would have thought they would have needed extra security to even keep them off the floor in that scenario, Well, but I'll say this too how many people does the shoe hold?
Speaker 1:Like 110,000?.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a lot of people.
Speaker 1:Okay, so talking about that game, it's different. Now again, they're not going to storm the field against Michigan. That would make no sense. But say you're at Ohio State and they decide to storm the field. I don't care how much security you have stopping if 110 000 people say I'm going in, they're going ahead, they're going in, you just have to let them.
Speaker 2:Let them go. I agree that yourself, I never understood that when they started, um, you know putting fines on the school.
Speaker 1:Anyways, like you said, they're not paying it, like the fans aren't paying it, so they don't and the school's like, well, they tell the schools that you need to go figure out who these people were and, you know, charge them stuff and do this, you know, kick them out of school. And it's like, okay, then you're asking the school to do hundreds of hours of extra work on stuff. It's like all right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, again there's a safety aspect to it, but then at the same time, it's it's part of fandom. I mean, I don't really know what to say with that, to be honest. Yep, well, since we're on college football football, we can just stay on that as you want. We had the uh, the uh playoff bracket, I guess, come out. Yeah, you know, that came out last night.
Speaker 2:Um, any surprises, anything you saw, that surprised you I thought south carolina might move up further than they did. Uh, again, I don't know who to move out to put them in. Is the problem Miami and Alabama? Not surprising, and mainly because Miami's not beating anybody. No, they really haven't.
Speaker 1:They've struggled with some teams. They should have beaten by a lot and they've really not won.
Speaker 2:So not big time surprising. I thought you know South Carolina might make a move. I knew Alabama and Miami would be in there somewhere. So again it's getting us closer. But until this weekend's over we still don't know, because you don't know who's going to win the ACC. You're not sure who's going to win the Big 12. I think I know who's going to win the Big 10. Sec, I don't really know.
Speaker 1:I think it's going to be Georgia, but I don't know that one for sure either Georgia versus Texas. That's what I'm saying, so I know this. Smu. This is the first week since the playoffs that they're actually put in the correct spot.
Speaker 2:I know Because.
Speaker 1:Miami finally lost and they're like oh yeah, miami's not in first, they've not been in first ever.
Speaker 2:It's so frustrating. Smu is ranked higher in the top 25 or whatever.
Speaker 1:That's who they were putting in there, right, but the issue with it is when you go look and it says they're leading the conference. Miami has not led the conference for six weeks.
Speaker 2:They need to fix that. That's a very silly thing.
Speaker 1:I know that's something stupid to get mad over, but it's like when you say we watch all this and we do so much and it's this, this and this. That's a very simple thing to fix, that's not overboard this, this and this.
Speaker 1:That's a very simple thing to fix. That's not overboard. Now I will say this I talked to a buddy of ours today and he was saying that Rhys Davis asked a question last night to the head of the committee Okay, are the teams that are not playing this weekend, are they going to move any? And he's like, well, they can't move any. There's no way for them to move any.
Speaker 2:They have to.
Speaker 1:And that's immediately where my thought goes, because if SMU gets beat by Clemson, Clemson's in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're a conference champion, so you just bump SMU out. Are they just going to sweep places with Clemson and SMU?
Speaker 1:Right. So I don't understand that. So to me, if Clemson wins, that should knock Alabama out, right.
Speaker 2:But what you're saying? If Clemson beats SMU, is SMU still in.
Speaker 1:I don't see how we can put two ACC schools in there. It's so weak.
Speaker 2:So we said this about the SEC SMU is kind of hurting themselves by being in the championship game. If they wasn't, they might be sitting there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean they're what? 11-1? Zero conference losses. Their only loss was to, I think, byu, or something like that. The team they lost you by three was a perennial team all year. But it's, yeah, perennial all year. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I'll just shut up it's late.
Speaker 2:We've talked about I'm gonna use that late later can we make a drop or something that's but no, they.
Speaker 1:They've played well all year, but the team they lost to is again another team. That's been pretty solid and I still don't know that we can take two ACC teams. I feel like it'd be really hard to say let's knock out an Alabama for an SMU or Clemson.
Speaker 2:Based on what we have right now, smu's probably the deserving team, but if Clemson goes, beats them the way.
Speaker 1:the bracket set up. It was BYU by three, like third game of the year.
Speaker 2:So I mean, I think SMU is the more deserving at this point to get in. I thought Miami would get to the ACC championship and win. It Didn't happen. Fine, I'm not sure SMU is going to win the championship.
Speaker 1:To me, if I'm these conferences, we've got to do a better job of scheduling. Like SMU, clemson and Miami did not play each other at all. None of those three teams. What's the purpose?
Speaker 1:behind that I understand SMU was kind of a wild card. Nobody saw that one coming when they moved to the ACC this year. But Clemson and Miami are two teams that have been on the top of that for a little bit. You know Miami's had its up and downs, but still a team that we talk about a lot. Clemson's been the top of the ACC with Florida State. Florida State's nonexistent this year, but even then they played those teams. But what about? Why are our top teams not playing?
Speaker 2:Are they looking at what's happening in the SEC and saying we don't want that?
Speaker 1:But it's not going to work out for them either way. No, because that's the thing is. You get a mess like this and you know Chris DeBall at Miami. He's mad that they moved out of the top 12 and that they have no shot. I mean pretty much at this point. I don't see any way a team outside of the 12 makes it other than like an Iowa State if they win the conference.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't either, and that's just going to bump somebody else out.
Speaker 1:That's all it's going to do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's all it's going to do Now maybe I don't know. You know, if BYU doesn't win, is BYU out, byu's not in it.
Speaker 1:They're not even in the big 12 championships, sorry.
Speaker 2:Boise State they're for sure in.
Speaker 1:I don't think so. You don't think Boise State's for sure in. If Boise State loses to UN, they're not a conference champion. They now have two losses on the season, their other loss being Oregon. And it's true. How do you so? They're only, they're only like they're like 10th in the rankings it's not like they're really high up there, so it'd be really easy to drop them, but so are they going to take a different conference champion? From a different conference at that point I don't know. I don't know what it's going to look like.
Speaker 2:You may get a 17th SEC team in there, because SEC and Big Ten are actually controlling it, but you've got to have five conference champions, right? That's what they say.
Speaker 1:So they say they're going to take five conference champions. There's going to be the big four and then one from outside of that. Yeah, but do you move a UNLV that high up there? I mean they're like 20-something right now. I mean it like 20 something right now. I mean it'd be really hard to move a team like that.
Speaker 2:Well, they say it'd be the highest ranked conference champion outside of those four right. So that's why that's where boise state might still be. Well, they wouldn't be conference champions I don't know that it's a mess. It's too confusing for the fact that we have to sit here and talk like this, that we don't really know.
Speaker 1:It really is like we should be able to look at a bracket and say, okay, we don't know in what order, but one, two, three, four, it's going to be these guys. Yeah, it's me from this conference. This conference, this conference, this conference I agree with that. It's a little too confusing yeah, and I understand it quite a bit. I know you do too sure, but it's it's real, there's so many variables that just make it hard to follow, when it shouldn't be that hard to follow.
Speaker 2:So bracket, so can bracket. So can we go back to my comment? Just put the bracket up until after the conference champion.
Speaker 1:But it's hard because you've got a bracket that says one thing, rankings that say something completely different.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:And I don't know what to do with those.
Speaker 2:So just give me the rankings. First of all, let's just rank them 1 through 12 and put them in the bracket. Forget all the buys. I Forget all the buys. I mean you can still get the buys Top four in the buys, whatever. Let's go back to where we had the top four, but now we've got top 12. Right, when everybody said, hey, let's expand college football playoffs they didn't say, hey, can we put a bracket in too?
Speaker 1:and you can pull a conference champion. We saw with the top four you didn't have to be a conference champion to get in. Let's just go.
Speaker 2:Because of that, They've lost three or four times this year Because even if they win the conference championship, they're in the ACC, who clearly has shown they're not that strong, correct? So they're probably not one of the top 12 teams, even if they go win the championship, correct?
Speaker 1:I just want to see the 12 best. That's it. It's not what we've said. Again, it's hard because you, you may against skip out on some teams you know in indiana may not be in there, um, you may not even get a big 12 team in there, because they they need to do better again. Yeah, that's kind of the the model we said I mean, how many do better?
Speaker 2:how many times did we see ohio state, georgia, clemson, alabama, just over and over and over?
Speaker 1:and over in the championships, yeah, okay all we said is we won at 12. A lot.
Speaker 2:We didn't say it has to be the Big 12 champions who didn't play anybody, or a Boise State who come from whoever they played.
Speaker 1:Well, it's kind of like right now them saying they have Alabama in over. Alabama has a better record against bowl eligible teams. Alabama has a better record against uh above 500 teams. Alabama has this, this and this probably played a lot more of those and it's they have and it's like, well, they have more losses, but look who they played. Yeah, I mean they. The talent they've played has been much better than anybody miami's played. Miami's best win might be Louisville.
Speaker 2:And that's why it should factor all of that in and just let's take the top 12. Let's stop trying to be cute, I agree.
Speaker 1:I like the idea of top 12. Now what I will say, what I loved when I saw the bracket last night. It's kind of something I mentioned last week.
Speaker 2:I don't want to see conference games this week. We saw.
Speaker 1:everything was, you know, like SEC and Big Ten were playing and you know the Notre Dame was getting a Big Ten.
Speaker 2:At one point all the SEC schools were going to have to go to Big Ten, right, I want to see that mixed up too. I don't want to see that. I want to see some Big Ten come south. I don't want to watch a bunch of snow games either though I wouldn't mind seeing a Tennessee or some African play in the snow. Let's see what they do. That's fine, but I don't want to see five snow games. No, no, I agree, I'm good with two. I want it mixed up.
Speaker 1:Right, right, you know, bring some down south, send a few up north.
Speaker 2:There's no west teams really at this point We've got nobody out there.
Speaker 1:Arizona State will be the farthest one. Other than that, matt, I think Iowa State or Texas, I don't know exactly how that line rolls, with all that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true. I mean, you really don't have anything way out west.
Speaker 1:Oregon. I take that back. You have Oregon.
Speaker 2:I forgot. They're number one but they have a bye, so I wasn't really thinking about it. That's so weird, because you think of Big Ten, you don't think of out west.
Speaker 1:You don't think of Oregon being?
Speaker 2:in the Big Ten.
Speaker 1:It's such a mess with how they've done it. Now, the big 18 or whatever, the ACC, the Atlantic, Coastal. Conference. Yeah, we have teams on the east coast, on the west coast, in the middle of the country. They're literally everywhere yeah I mean the travel for that I. I don't know how their budgets do it, not necessarily for football, basketball, but all the other sports. How do you budget?
Speaker 2:so bad amount of travel is the best. Conference is still kind of held to what they believe is the sec, even though they're kind of expanding out but they're still fairly southeastern yeah, I mean they.
Speaker 1:They're probably the most southeast, I guess you would kentucky is about the furthest north. Well, but you'd say kentucky's a little bit out there, which that's really not that far from from you know, georgia and all that.
Speaker 2:It's not really a bad trip no, it's not, I don't consider texas, oklahoma, missouri, maybe that's where you would start to argue the the Midwest a little bit over there.
Speaker 1:But it's still, it's not that far.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's not super super out there.
Speaker 2:They probably stayed the closest to what they believed, I mean, and they keep adding schools, but luckily they didn't call themselves a Big Ten or a Big 12.
Speaker 1:No, when you're the SEC you're just southeastern, you're just an area For the SEC, you're just southeastern, you're just an area.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you got everything you want, no matter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean they could add whoever they want. But I think though too, when you look at teams they've added, I think the SEC has added the best teams.
Speaker 2:I mean Oklahoma struggled a little bit this year, but Oklahoma is still a good program.
Speaker 1:So Oklahoma and Texas to the SEC, like that's adding two really good. Yep, I think they're going to have more Not you know, a one-off that you may get, like an SMU. This could be a one-off. They may never be good again, not saying that I think they will be, but I just we may not see that again, yeah. But Texas and Oklahoma they're going to get recruits always, so you're going to see them still be able to compete.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was a good fit for to go this season.
Speaker 1:I will say Texas probably had the easiest SEC schedule out of everyone.
Speaker 2:They didn't get everybody, they got Georgia.
Speaker 1:They didn't get Alabama.
Speaker 2:They bring in Texas and Oklahoma and say, Texas, we're giving you this schedule. Oh, by the way, Oklahoma, here's yours. They got.
Speaker 1:Oklahoma, because that's the rivalry game, red River rivalry. Then they got Texas A&M reliving an old school rivalry. They came back. Then they had Georgia. They didn't get all the other, got a muffler shop nearby. That's a bit of a mess. Easily distracted until it's late. We're doing this right next to the local drag strip here Feels like it. It definitely feels like it.
Speaker 2:Where's all of our buddies at to sit over here and watch them? I know I can make a few phone calls. We feels like it. It definitely feels like it. Where's all of our buddies at to sit over here and watch them? I know I can make a few phone calls we can fix that.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I think next week is going to be interesting seeing these games this weekend, seeing the final playoff brackets come out. I'm really curious to see what they do with a potential Georgia getting another loss. If they lose to Texas, that's a third loss for them.
Speaker 2:They said that they're going to put some weight, that they made it to the championship game. I agree, if they get knocked out because of that, then that tells me in the future Don't make it, you don't want to make it.
Speaker 1:You want to be right there on the edge If you go and you're undefeated, like in Oregon, Oregon's in. I don't care if they go get beat by 50. Yes. If you can do that yeah, but I think the same thing for Penn State. Penn State's got one loss. Yeah, I think they're in either way too.
Speaker 2:They're in.
Speaker 1:So a loss doesn't really hurt them.
Speaker 2:But take somebody like the Buckeyes. If they had got in and lost, they'd probably be out when right now they can just sit there and say all right, what they're going to do.
Speaker 1:So I am intrigued by that. I've not been really impressed with some of the stuff they've done so far, with how the bracket's laid out, but I'm curious to see what they do.
Speaker 2:I'm going to start right now. I don't know who I tell. I don't know who I start.
Speaker 1:It's not like writing your local congressman. You have to talk somebody higher. Can I write?
Speaker 2:who's the guy? Chicken guy, you don't want to talk to him? No, I probably don't want to, but that's just not how it works. Let's get rid of the dang bracket. Until bracket time, let's rank him 1 through 12, put him in a bracket and move on, just like we do in basketball and it's a blast.
Speaker 1:Let's do it. Yeah, I think you could make it much more easy and I think we'd all enjoy it a whole lot more. Yeah, so yeah, I'm all for it again. Let's do it. If the dude's listening, I couldn't even tell you his name. I don't even know that. I've ever even seen his name, other than he's the committee chair, because that's what everybody wants to know.
Speaker 2:If it ain't that dude, if it's somebody that knows him or knows somebody else, hey, everybody, just get on board, let's get on.
Speaker 1:I'll start saying Twitter, but I guess it's text now. The rule of three. Yeah, the rule of three. You know a guy that you just got to go down the line until you figure it out.
Speaker 2:We're not big enough yet for somebody to know him, but we might know somebody that knows, somebody that knows him, you know exactly who I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:I could probably make a phone call and he probably knows him.
Speaker 2:He probably does Because he knows literally everyone.
Speaker 1:I mean he was commenting earlier about Alabama beating Carolina in Carolina.
Speaker 2:He's like oh, it's great being a Bama fan in.
Speaker 1:Carolina, and I'm really calling you out at this point. You know who you are, love you to death. But yeah, I could probably call him and you know he's got connections in Wisconsin and literally everywhere across the country. So it'd be funny like, oh yeah, I've got his number, what do you want to?
Speaker 2:say to him I don't know him, I know his brother.
Speaker 1:Right, I know his barber. What can we do with that?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I'd try it. He used to go to church with his grandparents. Yeah, I mean, it's very possible.
Speaker 1:We were actually talking about somebody. One day we were out hitting some golf balls together and he's like, oh yeah, I had that person. They were one of my students when he was dean of a few things up in a school in Wisconsin. He's like, yeah, I was one of my students.
Speaker 2:I'm like how do you just know?
Speaker 1:all this. It's crazy. It's so funny, though I love some of his stories because it's just stuff that he's been much more around than I have. You know he's been more parts of the country and done a whole lot more things. So you're saying he's cultured. I mean, I guess that's the term, I don't know, I mean, that's not really something I call people. That's a weird term to use.
Speaker 2:You know. So, while we're on college football, I just want to go ahead and put this out there, because we said we're Buckeye football fans. We are. Yes, this might be added. There might be another name added to this, but I'm going to go ahead on record right now Fire Chip Kelly.
Speaker 1:Move on. I think you take a whole day with him. Let's just clean house Again as a Buckeye fan. We've lost four straight to Michigan, Four straight, so that means twice at home.
Speaker 2:This one was unreal.
Speaker 1:This is the worst one.
Speaker 2:This is by far the worst one. When they played Indiana, I think I made the comment something about they had a turnover close to, I think, red zone. They had a punt return. That was returned. You take some of those out. They didn't do much offense, even against Indiana.
Speaker 1:Well, no, but I don't really think Ohio State's looked that great the past few weeks.
Speaker 2:But I remember Chip Kelly, oregon several years ago. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:The Oregon Chip Kelly, where they're running 106 plays a game, yes and every option you could imagine. They had a mobile quarterback, they had guys that were in the Olympics for sprinting. I mean they literally just had all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2:They started the hurry up, but they was one of the first to really do it in college football and make it work. I mean, it made Saban so mad he couldn't stand it.
Speaker 1:Oh, he was trying to argue that we should penalize stuff and that they shouldn't be allowed to do it if there's not been enough time. Run off the play clock, which would make no sense At that point. Just be ready.
Speaker 2:So where is that guy at? Is Ryan Day holding him back, or is he just not that guy anymore?
Speaker 1:I feel like it's got to be a coach holding you back at that point. I mean it'd be hard to say that that play calling is not there. Listen, you can't say that they don't have the talent.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:There's $20 million in NIL money on that roster.
Speaker 2:You cannot tell me there's not talent. If you want to do something, anybody can call plays for Ohio State's receivers.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, that's where the talent is. There's so much out on the edge, but then possibly two of the best runbacks in the country.
Speaker 2:I mean you're telling me we can't do more with these guys.
Speaker 1:But then you have Will Howard, who has not made some of the best decisions this year some of his passes or whatever but he's way more mobile than people give him credit for and we're not using that.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the only thought I had, too, is whether it's ryan day or or whoever, chip kelly, whatever I know you're proud of me, though.
Speaker 1:I said ryan day this time instead of jason, because I oh exactly but they look very similar a side by side. There's some similarities it's the goatee and and some and the dark hair.
Speaker 2:Well, maybe they're the Day Brothers because apparently on the last podcast I said the Olsen twins.
Speaker 1:You did say the Olsen twins Instead of the Wilson twins. It was Owen Wilson. Yep, you got mixed up. I don't feel bad about it anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly so. Believe me, I think it was my wife who called me out on that one.
Speaker 1:She's like Olsen twins, you're dumb too, we're.
Speaker 2:I couldn't think of it at the moment, and I knew it didn't sound right, just threw something out, but Tyler didn't say anything so.
Speaker 1:I went with it. I knew who you were talking about, so I think that's just what I did with it. It's. Owen Wilson and his brother Luke, who I was talking about, because then we talked about them again in multiple of their movies and stuff and we were both on the same page, the Olsen twins are two completely different people.
Speaker 2:Full house people.
Speaker 1:full house, yeah, way back when somebody was listening to that podcast going what's? The olsen twins were on the manny kate and mary kate and ashley olsen are with the manny brothers right now, and I'm really confused at what's going on yeah, I mean that might be something I want to watch too.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I mean talk about put john stamos and and uh uh coulier on there.
Speaker 2:I'd probably, I'd probably watch that oh, speaking of uh nfl I know we're getting all over the place um is it monday's the big simpsons game? We're talking about gosh. I had forgotten about it and I still don't care yeah, it's the cowboys they can't, they can't beat anybody well, that's why we're gonna have to watch the simpsons cast instead of the game, because the game's gonna be boring. So what you do is you put on the simpsons cast and pretend you're just watching a Simpsons episode, and that's not real it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:There's about four million other things I'd rather do, and like cleaning the back of the toilet is ahead of that. I mean that's.
Speaker 2:Cleaning the back of the toilet, that You've got some sayings tonight, but there's again.
Speaker 1:it's late.
Speaker 2:You never know what you're going to get Like do people clean the back of the toilet? Pretty often, I mean, like you take the lid off and clean. When you clean the toilet, you do. You take the lid off in the back where the water goes in and all that. Is that what you're talking about? No, I'm talking about like the back side, oh I thought you meant like take the lid off You're saying like the tank.
Speaker 1:Oh no, you drop some stuff in there and keep it clean. That does fine, I'm not worried about that I was confused.
Speaker 2:I thought, man, I need to be cleaning the inside of my tank a little more often.
Speaker 1:I don't think I ever would have thought of that as just like the back, because I just call it the tank, like I wouldn't think that's the back of the toilet, but I mean really it is it's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean. Anyways, we're off into obscurity again.
Speaker 1:Back to the Simpsons Go ahead.
Speaker 2:I don't imagine I'm going to do too much with it.
Speaker 1:No that doesn't. That's not something that really interests me, but again, I wasn't a Simpsons fan growing up, but we don't watch the.
Speaker 2:NFL that much either. The only thing I know about the NFL is everybody crying because oh, quarterback hits, what's his name? Oh, Lawrence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Trevor Lawrence With the Jaguars. Yeah, he just got put on the IR today.
Speaker 2:I mean his season's done.
Speaker 1:And they also upheld the three-game suspension on the Texans player that hit him See.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be adamant about this. I don't agree with it. With which part? Because I think the hit was fine. Okay, I understand it might have been kind of a bang-bang last minute. They think you hit him hard. But go back and look at all the tape and I've seen a lot of it this week because of this all the quarterbacks who fake slide and guys pull up and don't hit them and they slow down. And Trevor Lawrence done that really last-minute slide and the guy's already at him and you almost hurt yourself by sliding because you put yourself in a dangerous position.
Speaker 2:you really open yourself up yeah, I mean, you don't have your shoulder and hit if you're at that point.
Speaker 1:So there's two things I'll say about it. One we saw earlier in the year, like the whole thing, patrick mahomes faking like he's going to step out of bounds he's the biggest one, and then goes up the sideline and it's kind of like the Pitt game.
Speaker 1:Kamer, who was a quarterback a few years ago, did a fake slide in the ACC championship and they actually already had a ruling about it that the rule was, as soon as you attempt a slide whether it's fake or you start that motion, you're down at that spot, should be down, but they didn't do it. They gave him the touchdown. So you've got. It's really hard. I'll say that I don't know the best way to look at it because again, your guys are going to stand up for your guys and it's going to. It's going to cause something. But I also saw, maybe tom brady that was saying you should penalize that quarterback because he slid so late, like the guy that's going to hit him once you've committed to hitting you can't do.
Speaker 2:You can't pull up like and the thing is, as the defender, you didn's going to hit him once you've committed to hitting. You can't pull up like that. And the thing is, as a defender, you didn't commit to hit him in the head or neck injury or neck area. No, not at all. He slid into that Like what are you supposed to do at that point?
Speaker 1:Well, that's the same way with targeting. Half the time in college you get these guys Now, I won't say all the time, because these guys will lower their head and lead with the crown of their helmet. It's like who taught you to do that? That makes no sense. Yeah, but there's a lot of times a defender will get low to go hit and then the ball carrier lowers his head and then it's like, oh, you hit him in the head. It's targeting.
Speaker 2:I would like to see if you're going to call targeting. You need to call as much on the offensive side as you are defensive side, if the back lowers his head and hits you that way you gotta call that way too, I think for me.
Speaker 1:I just want a different call together. I agree, I don't know that, I don't know that. I don't even want targeting. I almost want it to just be a unnecessary roughness and it's just like a reviewable, like looked at type thing because it's a judgment call it's so, but it's it's viewed so drastically different by every referee crew.
Speaker 1:I mean, they, they all will look at something and say this this is, this isn't, and I don't know. Half the time I don't either, because I mean, honestly, the Georgia-Georgia Tech game. We were texting back and forth about it Great game, especially not being a fan of either. What was it? Seven, eight overtimes, eight. Yeah, because eight was great, they said so, eight overtimes. Well, in regulation, when Georgia Tech's quarterback fumbled it, georgia. Well, in regulation, when Georgia Tech's quarterback fumbled it, georgia got away with the targeting. I mean, he made a great hit. I won't say great hit because it was targeting, they didn't even review it. But he hits the quarterback, quarterback drops the ball, georgia recovers. Well, you go back and look at it. The first impact that guy made was with the very top point of his helmet.
Speaker 2:So even if it's not caught in the field.
Speaker 1:The Review booth can review it right they.
Speaker 2:They can say hell, let's look at this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're reviewing a targeting. They can't and they didn't. So that to me, is, if you're a Georgia Tech fan, Georgia got away with a big one Because the game would have been over the whole targeting thing.
Speaker 2:that's probably more big in college, I think.
Speaker 1:the targeting calls yeah, they don't even have that actual penalty in the NFL.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but in the NFL you get the hit on the quarterbacks and things like that. You can't hit a quarterback anymore.
Speaker 1:That's part of what I think I don't like about the NFL is you can't land on him, you can't spin him, you can't go low you can't.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say this very sarcastically because I don't mean this, but the way the NFL is getting in, it's one reason I don't like to watch it. If we're going to be this way about quarterbacks and they're going to slide late and you can't hit them, they're going to get mad. No more quarterback runs. Can't do it. We're just going to protect you. You can't take a hit. Half the league just got fired.
Speaker 2:Let's do what they do in practice. Let's just put a red jersey on them. A guy like Michael Vick just never existed and again I'm saying that very sarcastic because I don't want to see that Gosh, no, but that's the way it kind of makes me feel at times.
Speaker 1:No, and that's when they started coming out with some of the more rules on the quarterback and you can't do certain things and you can't land on him. Like you go hit a guy and you're just going full force through him, how do you not land on him, like you're now saying, I have to then fall to the side, like you're asking a lot in a bang-bang situation.
Speaker 2:And when you look at the Trevor Lawrence play, he didn't hit him in the head Right Hit him in the shoulders and Trevor Lawrence's head slammed on the ground.
Speaker 1:His head hit the ground. Yeah, the ground caused the concussion, not actually the hit.
Speaker 2:So even with Trevor Lawrence sliding at him, he still didn't actually hit him in the head. So to even not hit him in the head, that was pretty good, I see what the NFL is doing by upholding that suspension.
Speaker 1:They're trying to basically prove a point. You do this kind of stuff and it causes the fight that it caused. You're going to get suspended. But at the same time, like we said, these guys are so fast and so athletic. He's already committed to hit the guy and then he slides. What's he supposed to do? And he slid way too late. What are you supposed to do at that point?
Speaker 2:You can't do anything. You're already committed to hit him because you're that close, so I don't know what they want me to do.
Speaker 1:So at this point. Any of our listeners get a hold of us, text us, email us. Facebook, Instagram We've got a million different ways you can get a hold of us, whether it's through the Not Amused page or through our personal stuff. I'm curious what is your answer to this?
Speaker 2:Like what would you think is a good resolution to it?
Speaker 1:Because I don't really know, I think it's a mess.
Speaker 2:But yeah, reach out to us and we'll talk about it next week. I don't have an answer for the NFL. What they're dealing with with like hits, like that on quarterback. I don't have an answer for the targeting, like you said you saw in the Georgia game.
Speaker 1:No, no, no no, it's so impossible to know when they're going to call what or ones that are man, that was a blatant target. They threw the flag and they come back and they're like, oh, there's no target on the play, I don't know what you do with that and you brought up the Georgia game and the target and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:Well, something that kind of led to some of those hits and probably that target hit. Why in the world is every two point conversion in overtime a pass play? You're on the three yard line again.
Speaker 1:We said we said this through text. I've talked about it with a few other people. I know I don't like the two point conversion thing. It's just back and forth. It ruins. It ruins such a good game. Two plays wait 15 minutes while we walk down the other end of the field. Just it ruins such a good game.
Speaker 2:Two plays wait 15 minutes while we walk down the other end of the field.
Speaker 1:It ruins such a good game. The one thing I think the NFL does well is their overtime. I don't necessarily like the whole tie thing. Yeah, I don't like ties. But, I do like that. You coin flip, get the ball, you score a touchdown. Game's over. There's nothing, you just got to be better.
Speaker 2:I do like that. I just feel like the game is in such a way that they give the offense such a benefit of a doubt with passing offenses and things like that.
Speaker 1:But I mean, you pick it off or you pick up a fumble and you return it.
Speaker 2:I mean it's over. If you win the coin, toss, then okay.
Speaker 1:I mean you got it Well, but if my whole thing, if, if it's tied, whether it's from a lot of points or from a little points, you've gotten yourself there. So I mean your defense should be able to hold another possession, I agree. Or the offense should be able to score another possession. So I like that again. I'm. I'm not against somebody goes down and score. Give the other team one possession. Let them have one rebuttal, kind of like they do in the NFL. Now, if you go kick a field goal, it's no longer over it used to be you kick a field goal, game's over Now.
Speaker 1:Basically the other team gets another possession. Kick a field goal, a tie, keep going. If they score a touchdown, they win. And part of that, what you're saying what I would like to see in the college overtime, because there's no special teams involved there. College I mean the extra special teams can be wild too well. We see so many more returns, so many more fumbles and so many more crazy things.
Speaker 2:Let me clarify a little. Okay, so there is field goals and extra points, if you do that right when I'm talking returns no, returns no I want to see that if a team is got a dangerous putt returner or kickoff returner, I want to see what if he ends the game on a kickoff return.
Speaker 1:Look how many more blocks of punts we see in college.
Speaker 2:Look how many more block field goals we see in college. I think back to the Alabama-Auburn game where the field goal was short and he picked it up and ran it back.
Speaker 1:The kick six, 109 yards, could you?
Speaker 2:imagine eight overtime or whatever you're in, and block a punt and you pick it up and run it back to end the game Right?
Speaker 1:I mean, bring that into it. Those would be really exciting. And then two it's we went to eight overtimes and it was still only 42 points, like that's. That's two points. That's so low.
Speaker 2:So I wanted Georgia to win but I didn't like that. It ended like you said. On one play the guy had the ball. He couldn't hang on to it. The running back I think it was at Georgia Tech couldn't hang on to it. Just one mistake into the whole thing and I get it, but normally you would get three or four downs at least, correct?
Speaker 1:In the sense that you get one play. Yeah, the one play is not my favorite. It's a lot of just back and forth. I feel like we had 100 commercials during that.
Speaker 2:It just didn't feel as exciting as I think it could have been. No, and can we please quit walking back and forth the field. Let's just stay on the one end, get on one side and stay there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, who cares? I mean, they're doing it for fans, they're doing it for TV timeouts.
Speaker 2:They're doing it for all this stuff, the fans. That would be tough if you're on one end, I guess, but still it's just, let's not have to worry about it.
Speaker 1:Kick it off and let's play. Let's keep playing football. You just shorten a quarter Like a five-minute quarter.
Speaker 2:I'm good with that Five-minute quarter and let's go death in some way or um a lot of other sports.
Speaker 1:sudden death in a way I mean, I mean pga you win the next hole, you win yeah, we could do that, like you said, hockey goes to a point and then they do shootouts and but they're still away. It's like, okay, instead of a tie let's do two five minute quarters.
Speaker 2:If it's still tied, then we can maybe go to the two-point conversion stuff maybe at that point and we do it's sudden, because it's death but it still gives us more of that, just better football experience, and I also think too, even like in their first and second overtime, when a team lines up on the 25 in the red zone, I think it's 25, right? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:We watched eight overtimes. We can't remember where they lined up. Well, because we went to two-point conversions. We was on the three-yard line most of the time, that's true.
Speaker 2:But you're in the red zone and it's really tight. If you have big playmaker receivers, they don't have a lot of room to work. This is true. Some teams would rather be further down the field to have room to throw that big pass or something to the receiver that you cannot do from the 25.
Speaker 1:Some teams are more explosive in that one play that one deep ball or that one, you know, whatever it may be where you could spread the field and really do something with it. But now you're basically in the red zone. The field is smaller.
Speaker 2:I want to work I want to see the 80 yard reception touchdown to end the game in overtime, right and all that's taken away by the way they do it but I mean, we've seen that nfl playoffs a couple years ago, I guess it may have been four years ago or so.
Speaker 1:Now Vikings and Saints Guy goes up, makes a great catch Defender makes a horrible play on the ball, goes to try to undercut him with his head down, misses and the guy goes in and that ended the game.
Speaker 2:Ended the game.
Speaker 1:right there it's like you, would get some crazy, crazy plays. That, to me, are just more highlights for ESPN to push. It'd be more exciting. We still see the kick six Auburn and Alabama. They still show that play Because it was exciting. Exactly, that's more exciting to me. You show me a two-point conversion that Georgia beat Georgia Tech on. Okay, it doesn't do anything for me, it's not the same.
Speaker 2:No, well, okay, you want to know how Georgia finally beat Georgia Tech. In eight overtimes they ran the ball. No, georgia Tech's running back dropped a pass in the end zone. Yeah, it wasn't that. Georgia did something special.
Speaker 1:No, no, it was just that one little thing Georgia ran in.
Speaker 2:Georgia made a three-yard play and Georgia Tech dropped to the others. That's why they won.
Speaker 1:Now second half, because they they weren't in that, they did. I thought they were to me, georgia tech it's their own fault for losing and not winning in regulation, because they were. They had a huge lead, should have and you know we could again go back to the whole should have been a targeting. You know, whatever it didn't happen, they still gave it up. The defense gave it up, the offense couldn't move anymore. Georgia fought back in it. It's a big way to come back and usually to me that feels like if you make it to overtime, at that point you've got all the momentum.
Speaker 2:It's it's yours to win well, I thought that, and I thought many times, georgia was gonna win and they didn't. And it was like, every time one of them made their two-point conversion or whatever, then the other one would, and if one didn't, the other one wouldn't, and and it was just on and on and on. Now again, I wanted georgia to win because I felt like georgia is a good team now. Maybe they didn't look good that night.
Speaker 1:It's rivalry whatever, it's a rivalry, but that's not typically much of a rivalry game.
Speaker 2:Well, I didn't want to see isn't much I didn't want to see. Well, okay, if georgia falls out of the playoff, who are we putting in? I don't want to see somebody else. The thing for the.
Speaker 1:SEC, georgia was already in the championship game. Georgia had already clinched that because, georgia Tech being an ACC team, but they would have had to win it for sure. They would have had to have won to be in, though, because if they had lost at that point they'd have been four losses, and there's no way a four loss team is getting in this year.
Speaker 2:And I just kind of feel like I want to see. I think they're one of the top 12 teams. I do, even if they lose it.
Speaker 1:At times, but I mean look at first half of the Alabama game.
Speaker 2:But who are you going to put in over them? Who's outside the top 12 that you say better than them?
Speaker 1:I mean, you could maybe argue an Ole Miss, you could argue a South Carolina. You're right, but you're going to do?
Speaker 2:it. I agree, I'm going to them, but at the same time.
Speaker 1:Clemson now has a chance to get in if they win, and South. Carolina just beat them.
Speaker 2:Ole Miss lost to South Carolina and Kentucky. I mean like nobody teams.
Speaker 1:Well, South Carolina could potentially be there. But yes, losing to Kentucky, that's a bad one, that's a really bad one.
Speaker 2:Even though I think Ole Miss and South Carolina is good, I still want Georgia in there more than them, and that's going to bring me to something so controversial. Still want georgia in there more than them, and that's going to bring me to something so controversial that I ain't gonna say controversial, something you probably never would have thought I'd say, because I love college football and this year we've talked about how you don't really know who's good. Anybody can beat anybody. It's been a mess. It's been a fun mess. I don't like it, you don't like the mess, I don't like it, and here's why I'm okay with the upsets. I love some ups, I love this, but I still want to see some teams that I know are good, and I don't have any this year.
Speaker 1:Well, but that's where I would come in and say are they that good if they're not winning? No, you're right, so at that point.
Speaker 2:It's not that it's the upsets, it's just they've got to be better. You're right, but I want to see a few teams that we know, man, they're good and we don't have any.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, I'll even say this Oregon, undefeated number one. Yes, they beat Ohio State, but we've also seen how poor they've been at times. Right, if you look at who else they've played, they've not played anybody.
Speaker 2:They don't have just a great win and they're the only one that you could say, man, they're, they're a good team like, but not really like, because what you're pointing out so that's what in texas, right behind them looked horrible against georgia.
Speaker 2:I mean absolutely horrible against georgia I mean, and so I'm really, you know, throughout the year I'm like, oh man, this is great, like you said, the good games. But then I get to towards the end of the year I'm going there, going. There is no team that I can look at and go. Man, that's good, because we used to look at Alabama that way at times Georgia, clemson, ohio State.
Speaker 1:Well, a Saban-Alabama team is different.
Speaker 2:A Saban-Alabama team could literally beat anybody at any given time, but even if Saban was there this year, just the way college football is. I mean, look at Kirby.
Speaker 1:Smart and and I'll say the complete opposite because I love upsets, I love underdogs, I love that, I love some of that. Give me 12 8-4 teams or 7-5 teams, because it's just been brutal and we beat the crap out of each other.
Speaker 2:I think, that would be fun too, but doesn't it stop being an upset if nobody's good?
Speaker 1:No, because I mean if a Georgia Tech beats Georgia, I don't care if Georgia is unranked and Georgia Tech is ranked. If a Georgia Tech beats Georgia, I don't care if Georgia is unranked and Georgia Tech is ranked.
Speaker 2:That to me still feels like an upset because it's Georgia Tech, they're not a football school. When we get to the playoffs, I want if that 12 seed beats a higher seed, I want it to be like somebody we thought was good and they wouldn't beat them.
Speaker 1:So, kind of on that note, once we get to the playoffs, do you consider that an upset? Are any of those actually like an upset?
Speaker 2:I want it to be no, probably not, but I want it to be. If a 12 seed makes it all the way to play the one seed and beats the one seed, I want to know.
Speaker 1:So, man, they so yeah, if the 12 seed does it. But some of those where it's like a 10 versus 7, I just don't feel like that's an upset no, I'm with you there.
Speaker 2:But I'm saying, if a lower seed makes it all the way into the next round, oh, it's going to feel like March Madness.
Speaker 1:Yeah, at the point where you get the 16, just beat a 1 and we're going for the sweet 16.
Speaker 2:I don't think we're going to see that because you know, like you just said about Oregon, if a team goes and knocks off Oregon in that second round, okay, oregon just went as we thought. They didn't play anybody. There's no team that. I'm just like man, that's a good team.
Speaker 1:You could say that, but then you could also say that when it comes to basketball, when we've had a couple of these 16 beat a 1, well, was that 1? Actually that good. Did they play somebody? No, I agree with that. I think basketball plays more games. I think it's just a judgment. I mean we could say it any time.
Speaker 2:I can agree with that.
Speaker 1:Because at the same time Oregon they struggled really early in the year with Idaho. They struggled with Boise State, which Boise State's a solid team, don't get me wrong. But then outside of that, since then they've not really had a close game. They're beating the teams they should beat, so they're not really playing anybody. But at the same time you can't judge who's going to be good that year. So if Oregon plays a team and they're a 30-point favorite and they go in by 50, they're kind of doing their job.
Speaker 2:They are so it's kind of hard to argue in that aspect. But I feel like in years past and even, like you mentioned, college basketball, even college basketball, I feel like most of the time you can pinpoint at least a few teams that everybody, most everybody, agrees that's a good team. And I'm not getting that at the end of college football season here this year and that's what I'm struggling with, like who is the clear favorite to go win the championship this year in college football? Or give me two or three.
Speaker 1:I don't know that we have a clear favorite. I think a dangerous team again a talk I was having this afternoon I think Penn State's a dangerous team if they can get their offense going. You're proving my point a little bit To an extent, but I don't think on any time we get to a 12 team because, same thing like March Madness, it's hard to pick who's going to win. There's a reason that they do bracket challenges and no one has ever gotten it perfect because it is so hard to judge that. But again, the 12 teams that are there, I don't think an Arizona State or an Iowa State, whoever wins that, I don't think they really have a chance. But I think out of the other 10, it's a toss-up.
Speaker 2:They're all pretty good. I don't think they have a chance. But if they were to beat a couple, I wouldn't be surprised, Just because of the way it's been this year.
Speaker 1:I think I'd be surprised with them, because those teams, when you watch them play, they just don't have that electric type of offense or that defense that really gets after it. They don't have anything that they just we can hold our hat on this For years. Sec, we hold our hat, that our defensive line. You cannot stop Like they just do.
Speaker 2:And I think it's going to make it exciting, like you said, that any of the 10 could probably win. And you know, years past we'd have they'd pick who they thought was the top four and there'd be some frustration, like we could usually pinpoint five, maybe six, like these should be in, yeah, but I don't know if we've ever been able to say 10 could win it. So that's probably going to bring some excitement, but I kind of miss having that. But I think that's kind of the mess of it too, is we're used to.
Speaker 1:It used to be two with BCS and then it went to four. We didn't make that deserve to be there. Well, now we kind of have to because there's 12 teams that are going to be there. And again, I think the difference in number 12 you know, when we come to the actual bracket seating, number 12 versus number one this year maybe not be as large as it typically would be, but I still think it's pretty big gap. Yeah think you know when we start talking about especially the SEC, because they just play more physical than a lot of other conferences that we watch, the Big 12 doesn't play that kind of ball. I think they could struggle.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm curious to see how the different styles, even the SEC. That's what I love about seeing the weird matchups that we have.
Speaker 1:We're not seeing conference games. We are seeing these teams play cross-conference stuff and really going to see could they actually fit there? That needs to be a rule that it should have to be.
Speaker 2:You can't play a conference opponent. I don't know how you'd make it work.
Speaker 1:Or would you even just say you can't play a conference opponent if you've played them already this year?
Speaker 1:I'd be okay with that, probably because it'd be really hard to do it otherwise. I think it'd be really hard to move some people around, because then you may say it's a difference in a home game versus an away game. Yeah, but if it's, if you've played that team this year, you can't play them in the first round. Maybe I don't know exactly how you do that, but yeah, I'm not against that and you know all these things every time you do something different, new, you're gonna learn about it.
Speaker 2:You're gonna figure out what works, what doesn't, make tweaks, and so I'm sure that's gonna happen again. Still, let's get rid of the bracket until time for the bracket, but that's my biggest complaint, uh. But so all this happened over what most call thanksgiving weekend yeah, we're already in december, unreal. Yeah, I mean, it's december third, uh no, december fourth fourth, I don't even know what day it is at this point. I'm such a mess.
Speaker 1:Christmas is in 2-3 weeks, which is outrageous. This year has just flown by, so we're going to be going into big holiday season conference, basketball stuff, I guess we're already in holiday season. I mean, we are.
Speaker 2:So I hope everybody had a good Thanksgiving. I know ours was pretty good. I ate a lot of food.
Speaker 1:It was good. I ate way too much oh.
Speaker 2:I did for sure that. I think I gained several pounds that day and probably the next day too, eating leftovers.
Speaker 1:I was going to say I mean we feasted pretty good on Thanksgiving. There was things that I missed getting because the stuff I got was so good and I went back and got seconds and it was the same stuff. I didn't go and get the stuff that I missed out on, I got the same things.
Speaker 2:See, I had to put a little bit of everything on my plate the first time. Just get a little sampling of everything, then I would know oh yeah, I really wanted some more of that.
Speaker 1:So here's the thing Major pet peeve and everybody does this, and it's because you're already spending so much money on food, you're already spending so much on on doing everything so much time. I need people to understand. Give me a plate that can hold all that. I thought that's where he was going to go with that. There it's. So often I get a plate and it's like I'm not even anywhere near where I want to feel it too, and it just falls apart.
Speaker 2:We, we actually ate dinner together and um actually ate dinner together. Yeah and um. The plates we had weren't small and no, but they just weren't. They needed to be like twice the thickness, so I think they should come out with some like special thanksgiving day, like paper plates or something fat boy plates.
Speaker 1:That's what I need.
Speaker 2:I need a fat man, a bigger oval or something you can put more food on there.
Speaker 1:You know, give me a baking sheet, and that's what I'm gonna put my food on and I think I'd be.
Speaker 2:I don't need the old cafeteria style with the different compartments, because that never works. I got way more things than you got compartments.
Speaker 1:Well, I say, the compartments are too small. I can't like really those compartments. A roll doesn't fit in, so you can't even a piece of ham, just overflows everything.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, this is the smallest compartment.
Speaker 1:Let me see which food do. It's just too much. I'm pretty much like equal helpings whatever I'm gonna eat goes on the plate and then I eat it if it's good. If I don't necessarily like it, I'll just kind of decide okay, which was the best.
Speaker 1:That's when I'll get seconds, but I but I can't do that when the plate is crumbling. After I've got a piece of ham and a roll on it, the plate's folding over and it's like all right, there's still 10 other things I've not even looked at yet. I can't put it on my.
Speaker 2:Now I, like I said, I didn't have any problems with my plate. Maybe I didn't have as much food on mine as you did yours, but I still made several trips. I was wrong, I didn't.
Speaker 1:I'm not small I like to eat. I was trying to fill the plate so I didn't have to go back for seconds. I got you.
Speaker 2:You don't want to do it one go you know that reminds me of the uh, the joke that one of the comedians said, and I won't say it, I don't care, you can say his name, you can say whatever. But he talked about watching football one day and he realized how out of shape he was when he went to the refrigerator to get something. And in the meantime, while he went to the fridge and came back, somebody had kicked it off and he ran a 100-yard touchdown no-transcript.
Speaker 1:That will never happen to me. You want to know why? Why is that? Because I'm pressing pause, because you're going to pause it.
Speaker 2:I'm not missing it.
Speaker 1:I'm going to pause it that had to be which nobody had because it was super expensive.
Speaker 2:So I had DirecTV and had the DVR built in.
Speaker 1:So the first thing that I think that came out with was called TiVo, which I don't even think it exists anymore, because now every company has it.
Speaker 1:It's included with their plans and the only thing you really get is either more storage or longer holding or whatever they do with it. But when it first came out, it was really expensive. Everybody's like who wants that? We don't need that, right? And then you start using it and you're like how did I live without it? I don't watch commercials anymore. I fast forward to them. I barely watch live TV anymore. Well, that's true too. Like I'll give it 10 minutes and then start it, and then I can, you know, slowly get there. Yep, that's the way to do it. And again there. But I feel like commercials aren't as good as they used to be, because they know people aren't watching.
Speaker 2:Like there's no reason to make a great drop in value.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I feel like they have but there's not many people watching them.
Speaker 2:But now I mean, obviously you can now have commercials on your streaming streaming services things like that.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, so I like, I like to watch YouTube and YouTube videos and you know golf content and watch some car stuff on there. And YouTube is getting out of control. There are so many ads and then, even worse if you watch it like on a Roku device or smart TV they have a contract with YouTube to do more ads, so you're getting an ad like every two minutes. If you watch a 20 minute video, you've had 10 ads. I mean, it's horrible, absolutely horrible.
Speaker 1:I can't stand it, and most of those are not like you can skip after five seconds.
Speaker 2:You can't skip those.
Speaker 1:No, so the Roku one. I sat through two and a half minutes of a commercial the other day and finally turned it off and watched on my phone in my living room and, like this is pathetic, I can't. I can't even watch it on tv.
Speaker 2:That's, we'll uh, we'll watch something. And because a lot of times I don't pay up to get the ad free version so I'm a sucker for that I'm paying. I knew you had to be the one to do that, and it so it's not even like a bougie thing.
Speaker 1:At that point it's literally. I can't stand the commercials. Let me just watch it.
Speaker 2:What's funny and I'm not sure if I like this yet or not is the commercial will come on and up in the top corner. It'll give you a timer, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know how long I got to wait.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, it's taking forever and you're like, oh you know, because before you just kind of you know you wouldn't get a drink, looking at it.
Speaker 1:I've got to sit here this long and you don't realize, even if it's like a 30 seconds, when you sit there and watch 30 seconds, it's a whole lot longer than just living the 30 seconds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I'd rather not know, in a way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I mean, I agree with you. I don't like the ads. The ads are out of control as far as length, as far as how often? Again, I'm the one that I'll keep your thing going because I'm gonna pay up to not have you know what I can't stand, can't watch them, and that's everybody's, everybody's like oh, it's not, not the big deal, there's not that many, it's more than I want?
Speaker 2:well, but to be honest with you, what is it? Another two, three dollars a month, so it's not a lot. Most of the time it's not much.
Speaker 1:There's been a couple I don't remember if it was who. It was somebody. It was like nine dollars extra a month and that was one that was like all right now you've overpriced me. Now I can't, I can't do that one. I mean I wanted to, but my wife would have killed me. So I was like, if I'm paying nine dollars extra just to not have a two minute ad, she's, she's not gonna that one.
Speaker 2:They must be getting quite a bit of money for their ads that they feel like they have to charge that to get it back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean they're making money off ads. I mean that's the way all these streaming services do. Well, speaking of that, because I keep seeing the commercial for it and I'm super excited, it's the one commercial I keep seeing that I'm excited about and I know you're not quite as excited as I am Two weeks. Quite as excited as I am Two weeks. Scotty Rory Bryson Brooks.
Speaker 2:It's coming up and I'm really excited about it.
Speaker 1:I'm excited one because they're doing a full 18 hole. It's not going to be a 12 hole. A lot of these the match that they've done has been short. I've really not been as excited about those. The celebrity stuff doesn't do it as much for me. I like that. We now are getting to see PGA vs Liv. I'm super excited about that. I know we've talked about it once already but I'm actually really excited about it.
Speaker 2:I think it'll be fun to see the two compete like that, if we can get them all in really good form.
Speaker 1:I mean obviously Bryson's in good form. He made the hole-in-one over his house, so he's good to go. That's right, he finally Day 16,.
Speaker 2:He finally did it Like 14th try of day 16 or something. Yeah, something like that, but again.
Speaker 1:I don't care how many days it took, how many shots it took, it's still cool.
Speaker 2:I hope the golf is good and it's a close match and makes it interesting, but at the same time I hope there's some fun stories. I hope they mic them up like they do and you get some kind of banter. I think you have to mic them up.
Speaker 1:That's the type of guys that you know good and well. There's going to be side bets, there's going to be a little bit of trash talk, mainly because they're all friends, all these guys, they get along.
Speaker 2:There's not animosity anymore, that kind of makes it a little less interesting for me, because I want them to hate each other. Golf is not a sport you get much hate in. I want to see live guys like we hate you guys. We're coming to show you how to play golf. That's what I want to see.
Speaker 1:Listen, Bryson is basically going to treat it like a glorified YouTube video.
Speaker 2:I'm sure, because I mean he's been killing it. That's what he's doing with everything now.
Speaker 1:I mean he's been killing it on YouTube, but he's basically just going to look at this and he's going to probably be the most animated. He's probably going to be the most fun to watch reason I'll probably watch more than anything.
Speaker 2:As far as for the banter, again, I hope the golf is good, obviously interested scotty and rory.
Speaker 1:Neither of those guys, would I say, are big personality guys. Um scotty, best player in the world, currently, has been past couple years.
Speaker 2:Love him, one of my favorite golfers he's won a lot of money over the past couple years for sure, but he's not something you would say personality like.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of people that don't like that.
Speaker 2:He's number one, no, but he's kind of the dad that everybody can relate to, the young dad, because he's not very old. No, that's what I mean though. Just kind of like your average everyday guy just out there playing golf.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he feels more lack of a better term human than some of the others, because they're just such freak athletes. Some of the stuff they do, I mean Rory's like 4'11". I mean not really.
Speaker 2:He's like 5'6", yeah, but the man hits it like 350. Hey, roll down.
Speaker 1:I know I'm making fun of the 5'6" Short people, but so to be that height and to generate the speed that he does is what I think is so impressive. I mean he's unbelievable shape and stuff, but he still hits it like 350. Like Bryson is 6'2 and just jacked, so when he hits it that far.
Speaker 2:Cool. They kind of look like athletes. Scotty is not so much. Nothing against Scotty, he's not in bad shape.
Speaker 1:You don't look at him and say that's what I want to look like.
Speaker 2:I feel like I could go down the street and I'd see him somewhere. Watching his golf swing, I feel like I've seen some really crappy golfers with the same that's true but he's really good at that I've not seen anybody do it and make it land where his does.
Speaker 1:No no, I mean, the man's been just on a run. I I can't call it a tiger run because the tiger runs were. I don't even know how you compare yeah, what tiger. That was unreal time, but but I mean for the modern times he's on that type of just winning everything can't be stopped. I mean won the FedEx this year. He's won a Masters in this. He's won like what? Eight to 12 tournaments over the past couple years. I mean it's been crazy.
Speaker 2:It's been a crazy amount of numbers.
Speaker 1:But it's fun to see, so I'm really excited about that match.
Speaker 2:I think that's going to really help, hopefully with some viewers and some younger audience. We've talked how golf really needs that. I did see you mentioned it before. Is it Kevin Kistner going to be on the broadcast booth or whatever?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so he actually just got the lead NBC role.
Speaker 2:Okay, I knew it was something.
Speaker 1:I wasn't sure what it was. They just announced him him, which I think is awesome because he's he does a good job of it. He always says he needs some different people, but he says one of my favorite things, like he'll just be trash talking and he'll just look at you. It ain't a hobby like he's like look, I do this, I do this for a living, it's not a hobby. I'm not out here with my buddies playing I make money.
Speaker 2:That's a good well, I like they call it it's.
Speaker 1:It's hilarious. I've seen him do that to a few people, that's what I want to tell people about our podcast. It ain't a hobby, that's a button. Sorry, kids, I'm going to have to find a button for you and be able to repeat that one. But yeah, I mean, I think he's a really good pick for it because I think he's going to draw a lot of fun people in. Yeah, I think so, and that's what golf needs. It really does.
Speaker 2:We've lost a lot of good commentators that kind of aged out. I don't know how old he is. He's like his 40s. Okay, he's not very old. If he's 50, I'd be super surprised. He's not very old, yeah.
Speaker 1:But I mean, he's a South Carolina guy, he's right down across the border.
Speaker 2:I think it'd be good to have a fresh take and some new blood.
Speaker 1:New energy, yeah, new energy. Yeah, I'm curious to see some uh, his takes on all these new rules. Uh, you know, the less tour cards, the less stuff that they're doing.
Speaker 2:So I'm curious about some of that and what I think gets most people's attention in all aspects of sports talk and announcing ever. I hope they let him just speak his mind let him be him.
Speaker 1:Yes, don't, don't you know, pull, pull him back.
Speaker 2:Don't hold the range, just let him go, like you mentioned the rules. If he doesn't like the rule, let him say Don't hold the range, just let him go, let him be excited. If he doesn't like the rules.
Speaker 1:Let him say he doesn't like it. Let him be honest about it.
Speaker 2:That's better for TV. Yes, for sure.
Speaker 1:Like the clips that you're going to get off of that.
Speaker 2:But sometimes golf doesn't want the. You know, the image makes us look bad, that our rules aren't made. Every tournament is in Augusta.
Speaker 1:All right, have the waste management which is come to the golf course. Get, get drunk at 5am.
Speaker 2:Like that's all that is like it's not even honestly. It's like going out of hand Like it's crazy.
Speaker 1:I mean the uh, the stadium course, the, the par three, I mean it gets nuts, it's. It's probably worse than, but that's what golf needs. Maybe not to that extent. Not mean obviously every tournament doesn't need that. Like that's kind of what they hold their hat on. I mean we don't drink, so I'm not going drinking anyways.
Speaker 2:No, but I mean, I think, golf does need some more excitement. We need some more fun involved and these are the atmosphere that we've talked about with other sports that we see going to last minute. Run down over the mountain last night yeah you went to see your boys get beat.
Speaker 1:Sorry, we won't talk about the game Clemson Kentucky. Have they played down there before? If they haven't, it's been a long time.
Speaker 2:I don't get to watch Kentucky basketball since we moved from there. Well, live.
Speaker 1:You don't go see them play much.
Speaker 2:I didn't go, Obviously you don't go see them play much. I didn't Heck I hadn't been to Rep Arena.
Speaker 1:So you didn't go there either.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I didn't live that close to Lexington when I was there anyway, so I'd only been to Rep Arena I think once so they were coming to Clemson not far from us had talked about it Yesterday. Saw, let's go. My daughter had never been to games so little John Coss, see him down there, great venue.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it really is. That's a fun little arena to go watch in.
Speaker 2:I sat next to some older guys that season ticket holders there all the time. Great guys, we talked the whole time. He'd pat me on the leg.
Speaker 1:What do you think about that?
Speaker 2:You know, look, he needs to do this, oh, we're doing this. You know Kentucky needs to do this and we're doing this, and you know. So it was fun and at the end of the night, like three or four of me, I even shook my hand. You know, it was cool, even though we lost.
Speaker 1:That makes it so much more fun, though, when you have people around you. That are just fun.
Speaker 2:Now there was one time I got a little annoyed and he looks at me and says something like no-transcript had a basketball team, like I mean it was that bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's, let's cool it just a little bit, but I mean they were saying hold on.
Speaker 2:They're like, hey, we're, we just hope at halftime we're going to steal this game. Right, you know, man, with five minutes to go, we hope we're stealing this game. And they were. And they made Kentucky. They showed some flaws in what Kentucky does and roughed it up a little bit. Didn't get a lot of. You know, the refs didn't call some of the roughing up, so they just kind of let them play and slowed them down and beat them. I would have thought it would have took way more than 70 points to beat Kentucky, but that's what they mean. It was 70 to 66.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't see this Kentucky team being the 85, 90-point team. Every single night they were averaging close to 100.
Speaker 2:Some of that was who they played.
Speaker 1:I would say some of that. They just not played many people, but I feel like this team should be. If you're going to beat me, 75 to 80 is the number they couldn't hit threes last night.
Speaker 2:That was the problem. They just couldn't get them to go down. So anyway, yeah, enough of that. Who cares? Kentucky lost, yeah, yeah, yeah, they play Gonzaga, we'll see what happens, that's.
Speaker 1:Saturday right that they play. Yeah, like 10 o' starting at 9.30.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that game started at 9.30 at Clemson, Like that's a. We didn't get out of the stadium until 12.30 or something. Oh, at least when we started, At least I mean a 9.30 tip-off.
Speaker 1:in the middle of the week, mind you, Like it's not, like it was a Friday night, Saturday night, You're like I can kind of deal with it. Middle of the week, 9.30 tip. I mean, who are we kidding here? For all the West Coast people we had to start late.
Speaker 2:It's Clemson and Kentucky, right, nobody cares about that on the West Coast. Why are we doing this? But yeah, great venue, all the fans were great. I can't say anything bad about them, like. But yeah, great venue, all the fans were great. I can't say anything bad about them. Like I said, the guys next to me were great. If I went back I'd want to sit right next to them again. I mean, it was just awesome.
Speaker 1:Well, especially with the price that you got those for. We'll make a trip or two. Oh, I get them Like, even though it may not be teams we really care about. I feel like we've got to make some trips down there because that's it was again I've been there several times.
Speaker 1:You know pre um upgrades of that arena and then since they redid it and everything. It's a fun place to be like. It's actually a really good little atmosphere. Even if it's not teams you want to watch, college basketball games are fun I could see it'd be really fun.
Speaker 2:They're just exciting and um, I was even surprised with, like, the parking and everything was it's not bad.
Speaker 1:Much easier down. There's really not. I didn't have to even pay for parking really it didn't pay anything.
Speaker 2:They had a lot like if you had a pass you could go in the lot.
Speaker 1:Or did you just walk by the guy and wait? No, keep on going. I really didn't no, I, I.
Speaker 2:There was some people going to parking a lot and they said you had to pass. And he said well, go on up here and turn left here. Yeah, you know, then there was just, uh, big areas to park in cars are parking everywhere and it was just pulling and parking yes, yeah, it really wasn't that far to the stadium at all.
Speaker 1:It sucks when you're like, oh, I got cheap tickets and you go and it's like 50 to park yeah, that's, I save you money I expected to pay for parking somewhere, um, but so no, that that was really good.
Speaker 2:The experience was really good. After we came out of the stadium, I told my wife. I said, well, let's, let's walk around this way, see if we see the team bus or anything anywhere. And sure enough, we got around the side and there was Kentucky's bus in there. So it's 28 degrees.
Speaker 1:It was cold last night. So that was 28 without the wind chill. It was cold last night. It was very cold.
Speaker 2:And we're talking 1 o'clock in the morning at this point, and so there's probably 20 of us or so Kentucky fans just in this little area.
Speaker 1:And then Clemson brings out people to hold everybody back. It's upstate South Carolina. There's probably only 20 Kentucky fans in the whole area.
Speaker 2:There was quite a few there. We had a good Go Big Blue chant going at one point when Kentucky made the big run, but it didn't last long, I would say it surely helped, didn't it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, did a lot for you, didn't help. Listen, I'm talking smack, because Carolina just got beat again tonight by Alabama, fourth loss of the season in the early season.
Speaker 2:But it was cool, yeah, so big highlight for my daughter, especially a lot of the Kentucky players coming out. They'd talk to everybody. Stop, take a picture with you.
Speaker 1:No, that's really cool.
Speaker 2:Me and my wife and my daughter got a picture with Mark Pope. He was really cool. He's like thank this for coming and everything and listen, don't take this wrong.
Speaker 1:He made you look really short oh, it doesn't take much but he's a big man. I don't know if I went to his shoulder. No, you didn't, I think I saw that picture and I'm like who's this child with mark pope I know I'm so confused and it's your whole family. I'm like, oh gosh, like I I don't think I realized how big he was.
Speaker 2:Honestly, like he's, he's a big dude I think I got him listed online at like 6'10". He looks bigger than that. But of course my daughter, you know, not 12 years old yet and all these players she's taking pictures with and a couple of them kind of, you know, shrunk down with her, some of them she's like barely to their waist.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's tiny.
Speaker 2:These big centers and stuff, Tiny. Yeah, these big centers and stuff, but that was the thing. So a lot of those guys look little on TV, and one I'll just say specifically, Butler, who plays for Kentucky. Yep, he's the smallest dude on the court. Usually you watch him on TV and he's like he's a little guy. Well, he's 6'2".
Speaker 1:Yeah, by.
Speaker 2:D1 standards. You're 6' huge and you're like, okay, but those guys, oh my gosh, they're huge yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those are big. The big seven-footers and stuff, but not even just like how tall they are, but they're so long, like when you see them walking around, like the length that they have, like the length of their legs and their arms and everything, it's like man, you're just so big, even, you're so big, even in the stadium. Watching in person, you can see, okay, they're big, oh yeah. But then to see them, like when you really get next to them, yeah, it's very different, it's like whoa, very different you know.
Speaker 2:So I really can see the difference in, you know, d1 basketball players and I've heard you talk about this before and in the smaller yeah, like the size of these guys and stuff is just so it's.
Speaker 1:It's the size, but it's also how big they can be and just how great of shape that they're in.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like it's to be the 7-foot guy and it's just like you look, like you're just this 5'10 dude. That's just jacked. So is it the?
Speaker 2:commitment more for these players going to D1 schools, or is it the school itself is committing to their, you know, workouts and health plans? I think it's both, is it okay?
Speaker 1:so one like for the school side of it. There's so much more money like they can afford to have 10 nutritionists, they can afford to have all of those things, or their on-campus food is just better. I mean clemson. I used to go to camps down there for things and they had a chili's there they so. So I mean again, they're not sitting there eating Chili's every night? But it's the amount of just food options so they can really break it up and give them a good nutritional plan and have options.
Speaker 2:I've heard that with kids coming especially out of high school, going into D1 college and they get their personal chef, who's there for the team, and special diets, whether they're broken up or what, it depends what you need if you got a bulk, or if you're, you know, trying to to lose some weight but not lose that energy, and like it's a whole.
Speaker 1:They're. They're good at it, they're really good at it, those guys. That's what I need. Maybe I'll get in shape if I had my own personal chef.
Speaker 2:He won't, he won't if I had, you know, somebody sitting here saying here's what? Because what they'll do is they'll still get you good food, because they know how to do it for me this is true. I feel like I gotta eat lettuce or something I don't want to do that so, like the only thing you could think of that was healthy.
Speaker 1:I gotta eat lettuce.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm thinking of a salad or something you know, that's rabbit, it's mainly lettuce.
Speaker 1:Eat rabbit food and you'll get healthier.
Speaker 2:You're about when's the last time you bought a lettuce from? I don't know if you've ever bought a lettuce salad from a restaurant.
Speaker 1:What if you bought a head of lettuce from the restaurant?
Speaker 2:there Most salads because my wife gets them. Sometimes it's like, yeah, give me the salad. It's a bowl of lettuce with a few little things on top of it. Yeah, it's not much to be desired and they're going to charge you a fortune for it it.
Speaker 1:No, so for me, I'm not really a salad eater anyways, but I'm not going out to a restaurant.
Speaker 2:I'll, I'll have the salad. You know I let that go. When you said I'm not a salad, I just let that go. You, you teed it up for me, but I know I'm gonna leave it alone, just let it be let it be, you're not a salad eater. It's it's late. I'll there, they go it's late. Yeah, I'm not either, so I would get something but fat shaming over here, it's just getting, it's getting old listen, you're the one tell me your thanksgiving plate couldn't hold all your food.
Speaker 1:Listen, this mute button is about to happen. All right, I'm sick of this this. We're making fun of my fears. We're calling me fat. It's just it's time to end.
Speaker 2:I am not calling you fat, because that'd be the what's the saying, the pot calling the kettle black. Yeah, I mean it's, it's not one of those.
Speaker 1:That's like you know. You're sitting here just absolutely shredded like a greek god.
Speaker 2:You're like maybe you should eat a salad every now and then kids like if it's time you start ordering that thing, yeah, okay, yeah, you know, I've thinking I need to get me a treadmill or something out here. We'll do the podcast while we're walking on the treadmill.
Speaker 1:No, Like the amount of noise and the amount of like you don't want to sit here and listen to me out of breath, Like that's not fun for anybody.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like what did you say, Tyler?
Speaker 2:Give me a second.
Speaker 1:Give me a minute, give me a minute listen. I'm not in the college shape anymore, like I'm boy I'm a dad, I'm like I don't, I don't have the time in the ain't it crazy, how fast that goes and I understand more now, too, why you see so many people.
Speaker 2:You know, once you have kids and you're getting into your 30s and 40s, you kind of get out of shape because you have kids and you're busy. And then you'll start seeing when the kids go off to college. So people get back in shape.
Speaker 1:Well, not even. I don't even think it's when they get back to, like, go to college. I think it's even sooner. It's when you've got kids that can kind of do things for themselves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, whether it's driving or whether it's like they can they can really just kind of fully take care of themselves. It's like, okay, I kind of have a little more time. I have a little time and, like I can, I can get back and devote into that and again, we should all be healthier, like it. Just it's the way it is, but we're not really done any favors. You know the price to eat healthier is much more expensive it's, it's a lot harder, it is. But yeah, I do think it's a lot easier when it's like when you're dealing with diapers and you're dealing with, you know, kids that are just running around and they need you for every little thing.
Speaker 2:You kind of are just tired, you're like, I'm just going to eat what's quick, what's easy and just kind of go from there when I say normal, but the majority families and parents and yeah, you've got kids and you're taking care of kids and you're trying to work and you're just trying to get by and be there for your kids and take them to practice survive yeah, I mean that's what it feels like nuggets.
Speaker 1:I'm just trying to survive at this point.
Speaker 2:It does feel that way sometimes, and um. So if somebody out there is feeling that way, you're not alone, we're all in that boat like listen we all know we need to do better.
Speaker 1:See me, take one. Look. You're like yeah, I get it dude. Like you're, good, it's a uh, it's a daily. I want to do better, but ain't sure how and it's gonna take a lot to do it yeah, you know, and some days it's like I don't even, it's not even worth thinking about, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna get through the day and we'll try again tomorrow.
Speaker 2:Just gotta be the best person you can be every day and keep, keep working towards your goal, whatever that is.
Speaker 1:But yeah, no, I agree. Well, again, it's getting late, we're. We're about to get to the point where we could talk about who knows we're into the next day?
Speaker 2:who?
Speaker 1:knows what. So, but again, thank you guys for See you next time.