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Can Kansas football truly defy expectations? After three surprising victories over ranked opponents, we question whether the Jayhawks are genuinely on the rise or simply capitalizing on luck. We engage in a lively debate on their potential turnaround and explore the Big 12's thrilling unpredictability. Meanwhile, BYU's recent struggles offer a stark contrast, and we ponder the complex dynamics of college football playoff scenarios. As we navigate through the intricacies of the SEC's perceived strength, one can't help but wonder if middle-tier teams are prepared to challenge the top contenders.
Reflecting on the chaos and excitement of college sports, we draw parallels between football and basketball, highlighting Kentucky's potential path to the Final Four. The world of sports betting, with its unpredictable outcomes, offers endless content for discussion. While the ever-changing landscape of college sports keeps fans on their toes, there's also room for lighthearted conversations about the Manning Cast and golf's humorous side, where a missed swing might just hit Bryson DeChambeau's window.
But it's not all sports and banter. We share personal stories of parenting milestones, from potty training triumphs to the swift passage of time as children grow. Our heartfelt reflections extend to supporting communities affected by Hurricane Helene, underscoring the importance of coming together in times of need. Amidst the serious topics, we manage to sprinkle in some levity, with tales of runaway emus and unexpected wildlife encounters, all while looking forward to the comforting traditions of Thanksgiving.
welcome back to not amused um going on our second week here. Thanks for joining us again, or possibly joining us for the first time. I am Tyler and I've got David here with me. Get ready for some random, because we're going to be all over the place.
Speaker 2:Episode number two.
Speaker 1:We're big time now we didn't quit after one or get canceled after one. That's a positive. We did not get canceled. We are still here Stand by. I'm not going to say it won't happen. I we did not get canceled. We are still here Standby. I'm not going to say it won't happen. So I'm going to start the week out. Okay, there was some statements you made last week.
Speaker 3:We're just getting in it.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm getting in it, like we're not even going to go to the playoff stuff yet, we're not even going to go to, basically, mini March Madness. That happens in November with all these tournaments.
Speaker 1:We're going straight into do I need to like pull the tape up so I can say, look, let's listen to what the tape. Actually I may go edit it back in and throw it in there, just to repeat it. I get you. It's kind of twofold, okay. First off, is kansas better than what you gave him credit last week in football? Well, apparently, I mean, they're the first team to ever beat three straight ranked opponents as a sub 500 team.
Speaker 2:I, I think they found something new or something.
Speaker 1:Maybe injuries, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Did they go recruit some players? I watched them in some jerseys.
Speaker 1:Who knows, I don't know I watched Kansas and Colorado because it was kind of that whole thing of history. If they win, it's three straight. I don't know if they've gotten healthy or what's happened but they look pretty good.
Speaker 2:I even sat here and said I think Colorado is going to win the big 12. You did, boy, was I probably wrong about that? And again the big 12,.
Speaker 1:When I last looked, there are 256 possible scenarios of who could get in. I didn't realize there was that many. Yeah, because I was looking last night because I couldn't tell you, because Arizona State gets thrown into the playoff all of a sudden. I'm like they weren't even in the picture. Yeah, and I looked and there's 256 possibilities. I read through three and said I'm bored.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:I'm going to the next thing, Like because the first three were all the same.
Speaker 2:It was like this team and this team and if this happens, this team, I'm saying with everything I don't care until after this next week really, or probably actually the championships.
Speaker 1:December 8th. Yeah, so the Sunday following all the conference championships, like. Everything feels so much more condensed now, which I love, yep, but it's coming up a week and a half, I guess.
Speaker 3:We're right at it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's been crazy. So we're going to have plenty of To answer your question.
Speaker 2:Clearly they're better than I gave credit for because they weren't showing anything.
Speaker 1:And then, all of a sudden, they turned it on. That's my question Either do you apologize to Kansas or do you apologize to BYU, Because BYU then lost like two straight.
Speaker 2:I don't think either one of them are really good. To be honest with you, I think Kansas found something, it's still the Big 12. It's not exciting, yeah, I mean yeah, Kansas is better than I gave it credit for. Maybe they found something different they turned something on no BYU still. I still stay with that. I don't see them as good.
Speaker 1:They might not even win the the conference championship at this point, probably won't even get in after we had all this talk for so many weeks about BYU into the, the conference championship game, like I think it's still got to be some things happen for them. So yeah, that went really crazy, really so so was I wrong about kansas, maybe a little bit yeah am I apologizing?
Speaker 2:no, of course not, because you only spit facts. That's right, it's facts, see, but your?
Speaker 1:facts were wrong? Obviously, because I do. I do think kansas a little better than we all thought. I am curious was it injuries or was it? Did they make any coaching changes? I don't know.
Speaker 2:They're not pertinent enough in football for people to really notice that If you're a Kansas coach or fan or player or whatever, you've got to be sitting there now going man, if we could have just done something at the beginning of the year, we could have been in there. There is no Kansas fan that's not thinking.
Speaker 1:We're on to basketball season.
Speaker 2:They're in, the country're undefeated, they don't care about football and they look pretty good.
Speaker 1:They are we are on the basketball, we don't care. Yeah, they've not had a good year in football. So now we're talking about them because they beat three teams, but with the way they're ending the season if they would have started it that way. Well, I think they got to win another one just become each other. Well, and that leads me into kind of my next thing is the same comment, true about the sec. Like I keep hearing these people that are not as good as the same way.
Speaker 1:Are they as good as we think? Are they not as good as we think? Or is the SEC potentially 16 teams deep? Are they just that good across the board?
Speaker 2:So yeah, they're pretty good across the board. I don't know if I'd say 16 deep.
Speaker 1:Probably more realistically, 13 in that range. The bottom three are pretty rough.
Speaker 2:I think a middle-of-the-road SEC team can knock off one of the top SEC teams at any moment. They're good enough. It happened what three times this past week it did, and not saying they're better than that top SEC team. True, but it's a one-game scenario and it's dangerous when you go play some of these middle-of-the-road SEC teams.
Speaker 1:Well, I think, though, look how many NFL talent guys that come from the SEC even a four or five-win team, they're still putting guys into the league. Yeah, so you're still playing against top-tier guys.
Speaker 2:They're still extremely talented. And when you say are they as good as we think, what are we comparing them to? So is every SEC school as good as Ohio State and Oregon?
Speaker 1:No, but there's several that are, but that's you know once you start going top tier of the other my I think in my mind and again this will lead me into another point here shortly but I think in my mind the talent level is much closer across the board. Maybe not truly that they're 13 teams deep, but I do feel like you 6th and 7th ranked team in the SEC at any given time can beat the 1 and 2. They can, it's just they're maybe not 22 deep. Maybe it's like all right, well, they've got 16 solid good guys that are weak in a couple spots.
Speaker 2:We talked about Indiana. We saw what they do at Ohio State. Okay, you can look at it either way. How many SEC teams are better than Indiana? Or if Indiana was in the SEC, where do they fall? Because they're like what? Third in the Big Ten right now?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so they're going to be third by way of tiebreaker, losing to Ohio State, as long as Ohio State beats Michigan this week. So they're going to be a 10-1 team. I apologize.
Speaker 3:I used an M.
Speaker 1:It's not the week for that it's very wrong to say that at this point.
Speaker 2:We'll get past that. I didn't represent here. I see your shirt over there.
Speaker 1:It's hard because I've said this before. We've had this discussion probably a hundred different times. Is it Indiana? You're throwing them in this year or are you throwing them in five years? I'm talking this year. If you throw them in this year, or are you throwing them in in five years? I'm talking this year. If you throw them in this year, there are some guys that can play. They're probably going to get exposed. They're probably about the same level as an Oklahoma. Yeah, I would agree with that. Or somewhere just middle of the pack.
Speaker 2:Middle of the pack at best.
Speaker 1:It's just hard because any team you throw into the SEC. You take a Missouri, a Texas A&M. When they first came to the SEC they were okay, they had some really good years. They fell off and it's like all right now SEC recruiting starts and here we go. We just have all this talent again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I get that. I guess it's just kind of trying to compare. Are the SEC schools this year, the football teams, actually better than the Big Ten, even though they're sitting there with three losses and two losses beating each other up? It's really hard to tell sometimes, are they?
Speaker 1:really as good as we think.
Speaker 2:And they're just beating each other up. Bad, I don't think there's any question they are beating each other up.
Speaker 1:You could have never told me that Georgia would be the first one to clinch a spot in SEC championship.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't have thought that either, that's not the team I would have guessed.
Speaker 1:Not that they're not good, not that they could potentially win it all, but it just was not the team that I said. Yeah, I thought Texas probably would have clinched it earlier, but then Georgia whooped them and at the same time you go look at Texas' schedule, they've not beat many even bowl-eligible teams.
Speaker 2:Like it's just nobody really played that many great teams. But that's the thing with SEC. When you look at all the teams that are, this team beat somebody else and then they lost to somebody else. It's not like you can just kind of pinpoint and go, okay, they beat them and they beat them, so they're better. It's just everybody beating everybody and you have no point no idea at any point.
Speaker 1:These conferences have so many teams now too, so you can't say Team X has beat these four guys and Team Y only beat three of those four. Half the time they're not even playing four of the same teams. It's such a random difference, because there's what? 17 teams in the SEC?
Speaker 2:Let me ask you this question because Indiana is what Indiana is this year, whatever, right, right, okay, sec, part of what happens to those teams is the schedule, the grueling schedule, correct, and a big difference in them and some of the other teams is the offense and defensive linemen Correct, and that's a battle and it weighs on you, I think, over the season, Correct? Okay, let's take a team. We're a fan of, the Buckeyes. Throw them in the SEC. Where do they fit? I mean, they're towards the top.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I think it's their perennial top in recruiting. Also, though I mean, every year they're one of the top recruiting classes. So I think they're the same way. They're getting so many guys into the NFL that it's kind of the same feel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think they could hang with a.
Speaker 1:Big Ten school. You know a little more. The pace is different, the play calls are different, but I think you could put them in there and they could handle about like any of the others. I feel like they're a top third, I think for sure every year.
Speaker 2:We'll get into the playoff and all that. But I really hope that in the playoff we see SEC versus some of these other schools Big Ten and Big 12 and whatever because I want to see it. I do want to know are they just beating each other up, or what are they going to do when they're against a team like Ohio State or somebody like that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm very curious, and not that I want the selection committee to false anything or whatever, but I don't want to see two SEC teams play the first round.
Speaker 3:I don't either.
Speaker 1:I don't want to see two SEC teams play the first round. I don't either. I don't want to see conferences just basically get mixed in and you play somebody completely different, because I know at one point some of the projections are showing Indiana and Penn State are going to play. I don't care about that game, I don't want to see that. I want to see Indiana and potentially Texas or Georgia or one of those teams.
Speaker 2:I'm like that would be fun.
Speaker 1:Now there's no more question about comparison. Can they even compete?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They need to set the bracket up that way where SEC gets so many spots, big Ten gets so many spots and Big 12 gets some. You know, whatever You're going to get some teams in there, that's not worth it.
Speaker 1:But it'd be cool to see the conferences play each other. I hate to see any guaranteed spots. It's kind of like some of the old bowl games. It's like this one is the automatic champion of this. Well, if they're a five-loss team and they just happen to become conference champion, I don't want to see them in a big bowl, that's boring.
Speaker 1:So no, I don't necessarily want it to be that way, but even like right now current playoff projections, they are still showing Penn State and Indiana, but they're also showing Tennessee and Georgia. I don't want to see that. I don't, but again I want to see them play somebody else, even if they just swap those.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say this for another two weeks. It makes no sense for us to look at that bracket. We do not look at a March Madness bracket before the selection show. We look at rankings and try to decide who we think is going to go where?
Speaker 1:Correct? The only thing we're looking at that point is where are they getting sent? Are you going to the South? Are you going to the West?
Speaker 2:Where are you going so honestly, I wish they would quit showing us the bracket and let's talk about the bracket when it's time for the bracket.
Speaker 1:But the problem you have to show the bracket because the playoff rankings are of no importance, Because Ohio State's been number two for the past four weeks, but they can't be a number two seed.
Speaker 2:No, I agree with that and that's because the buys and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:So at that point again it goes back to I'd much rather just whatever your rankings are is what their seed is, so adjust it for that way.
Speaker 2:And that's what I was going to say. Do you agree with the buys, or should it just be if you're ranked top four, you get the bye Now, then you could come back into the argument, like we've had in the past years, of well, this was fifth, they should have been fourth, they should have got the bye and it could be somebody no, I mean, I think a conference champion, that's kind of.
Speaker 1:Again, it's an additional game on your schedule already, that's true.
Speaker 2:So I don't have a problem with that. Bye, because got to go to the conference.
Speaker 1:You have to earn it so for a team like boise state, who is currently slated to get that fourth bye, they're still going to play 13 games. I'm seeing there's some chances that they may not get it because there's some other conferences that could get that one I think what the, the big 10 hurt themselves or, excuse me, big 12 hurt themselves with so many losses, so many mix, because I think that was the one that was going to get that by and then because of how they messed it around.
Speaker 2:What if Tulane gets in there?
Speaker 1:I don't think I'd put them above If Boise State wins out. I don't think Tulane can jump them. I don't think so. It'd be really hard this late in the season and because, Tulane, I think the bigger schools they've played.
Speaker 2:They did not do very well against, but no, but again Tulane's a team.
Speaker 1:What? Three or four years in a row? Now they have just put together some good football programs and it it's kind of. At this point, I'm not surprised to see them ranked.
Speaker 2:I'm just kind of like, yeah, they were going to get there, john, somewhere all over there. That came from Kentucky. It was at Kentucky a few years with Stoops.
Speaker 1:Okay, I know Stoops has been a part of what every good coaching class there's been. Even though he's not really done much there.
Speaker 2:This year has been rough. It's been a rough year.
Speaker 1:You've played some good games. You kept Georgia at one point.
Speaker 2:That's the thing, texas was fairly close still, they beat Ole Miss, beat Ole Miss. They lost to South Carolina and Vandy and Florida. It's like you know, whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean. So, looking at the playoff bracket, I know you're not really big on the bracket itself, but what is your biggest surprise you're seeing currently? Like, what is kind of like wow.
Speaker 3:I didn't expect that so far.
Speaker 2:I mean, I didn't have one this week? I don't think, because it was about what I expected. You saw teams lose. Who know? Bama lost, omis lost. They get bumped out. Smu comes in because of it.
Speaker 1:Colorado yes, I mean acc is now probably going to get two because of that.
Speaker 2:Now I don't know if it's clemson might be the surprise where they're at now right out there number 12.
Speaker 1:But because, yeah, because of the setup, arizona state moves in instead, we kind of mentioned them uh I think last week that we did just a little they could, they still have a shot. They could be south carolina this week and maybe have an argument problem is it does nothing for them for conference championship, like their acc plays already done yep. Now they need this win against south carolina who is a very good ball.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they can't win another three loss south carolina. I'd have to look.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure but I mean, they're right there with everybody else yeah, I don't else They've been a pretty decent team. Again. I don't know how they're going to come down and do it. Some of these three-loss teams have beaten good teams, so it's really hard to compare Again. It's going to be just like the old stuff 12 through 15, the argument who fell out, who should have been in?
Speaker 2:I like what we said before If you won your conference championship, you don't have to worry about it. Yeah, be better Just be better and don't be on the bubble. Don't be like 12th If you want to, for sure be in, go, try to be like 8th or something.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing when it comes to March Madness and they're like the first four out. You should. You had two or three more games all year, you could have won and you're in. It's pretty simple.
Speaker 2:I can handle leaving out the 12th team who probably should have been in, but they got knocked out better than I can handle the fifth team that we've had in the past.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, as Ohio State fans, we've kind of been in that spot. You've seen Georgia, alabama, you've seen some of these Notre Dame, you've seen some of these teams that missed out. You're like they could have easily won that year speaking of notre dame.
Speaker 2:What are they going to do? Like they got to get a conference right the independent stuff just doesn't work anymore. I don't think they cannot get a buy, no matter how good the way the rules currently are.
Speaker 1:If, if notre dame goes 12 and 0, they could have the toughest schedule out there.
Speaker 2:They could be every team possible and the best thing is, and I know they just played Army and Army's probably not as good as everybody thought they were, but Notre Dame looked pretty good. They came out and was aggressive.
Speaker 1:Army still had beat everybody. So it's not like they're playing a team that is used to losing. They're playing a team that knows how to win, but again.
Speaker 3:Notre.
Speaker 2:Dame not being in a conference fifth is your best. But again, we've said this, fifth may not be a bad spot.
Speaker 1:No, fifth really isn't bad because it's potential. It's potential. So, like looking at the big 10, obviously, yes, being Ohio State fans, and we're going to say that a million times, but it's potential, somebody else could move into that. Fifth, that didn't play in a conference championship game. So you've now you've got the easiest, technically the easiest playoff game. Yeah, the only thing that sucks after that is then you go play number one, like that that's the.
Speaker 3:You got a four, then one. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Yes and then one, so like your line is not the best, but to get to the championship game I mean, your line is not the best, but to get to the championship game. To play the four in your second game, that's ideal.
Speaker 1:So, theoretically, no upsets. It's going to go 12-4-1. Yeah, and then whatever happens on the other side.
Speaker 2:The only thing is you don't get that bye. But here's the thing. But if you didn't play, conference champion you really care. And that's the thing these teams that are playing conference championship games like yeah, they're getting a buy, but they already played one more game than everybody else, because they played in that championship game.
Speaker 1:Well, but being being Ohio state fans if they beat.
Speaker 2:Hey, are we Ohio state fans?
Speaker 3:Yeah, just you know maybe I haven't really decided yet but you beat that Team up north.
Speaker 1:This week You're in the conference champion. You play against Oregon. You beat Oregon. Now they go from number one to number five. There's nowhere else for them to go, they're only going to drop maybe two spots in actual rankings, but they're going to drop to fifth in the seedings, because of where. Ohio State is. They're basically going to flip.
Speaker 2:What do you do with that? I think the worst case for somebody like Ohio State or anybody in their conference championship. So you go play your conference championship. Let's say you lose it so you don't get the bye Correct. So now you've played the conference championship one more game than everybody else and you didn't get a bye in the playoff. You're going to play a lot of games.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, you already at that point have played 13, and then you don't get a buy, so you're gonna play. To win it you have to play one more game than those top four. It's gonna be very, very hard, and I still think it's. I'm curious to see what's gonna happen. You know, lane kiffin doesn't really have to worry about it now because they got.
Speaker 1:No, he doesn't but a lot of these teams, these sec teams that could potentially make the sec championship georgia, their two losses. If they get a third loss, are they still?
Speaker 2:in If Georgia goes play whoever in the SEC championship.
Speaker 1:It looks like it's Texas, or Texas A&M yeah, one of the two. So if Texas wins this week, we'll say we'll throw Texas A&M out altogether, because that's a whole other mess, but you'll have a one-loss Texas, a two-loss Georgia. If Texas avenges that loss and wins, what happens to Georgia? I think?
Speaker 2:Georgia still has to be in. Are they a three-loss? That's out Because they did beat Texas earlier in the year, right, correct?
Speaker 1:Yeah well, it was a beating. Like they didn't beat them, it was a beating, that's what I'm saying. So how could you?
Speaker 3:leave them out Now. Maybe they just go in.
Speaker 2:Now you, who did lose?
Speaker 1:to. I got one loss anyways. Whatever their loss to Georgia. Yeah, georgia, we just said that that's their one loss. I mean I had a lapse there. Spit those facts there, keep going.
Speaker 2:I had a lapse, I was on a point here and I lost track of what I was doing.
Speaker 1:You got lost on that point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got lost there anyways get your GPS out so if Texas goes, they're one loss and they lose to Georgia in the SEC championship, right, so they've only lost to Georgia twice. At that point, correct. Are you going to drop them all the way out? I can't imagine you would.
Speaker 1:No, I think if a team like Texas makes it to the conference championship, I think they're in period. Yeah, Because the worst thing would be two loss. But okay, we'll throw another wrench. Georgia makes it, they're already in. Texas A&M makes it. Oh, that's going to get crazy. Whoever loses has three losses. What happens? You know, Texas A&M. Potentially that's the easier one to fall out because they're already kind of sneaking in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Georgia would be hard to pull, but Well, I think Georgia's schedule is just how much weight do you played in the conference? And that's one thing I hate about conferences is because there's so many teams you're not playing each other, you're not all playing the same teams. So georgia had a much harder schedule than, say, texas a&m did. So I can give georgia a little more weight to get a championship than I can take say them did they I?
Speaker 1:you're going to have Texas A&M playing Texas this week. They what? Beat South Carolina or no, lost South Carolina.
Speaker 2:That's what hurt them.
Speaker 1:Some of the teams they lost they got beat by Notre Dame early in the season, who was another playoff team. So a couple of their losses are against top tier. It's not like they lost to Abilene Christian, I mean they're losing to somebody good, sorry to. Abilene.
Speaker 2:Christian, you're just the first one that popped in my head. The fact that Texas A&M is not ranked in that top 12 right now kind of tells me the committee says you haven't shown us enough, and so if you don't go in the championship you're probably not going to show us enough. I mean, that's just, but I almost like what Kiffin was saying.
Speaker 1:It's like I want to be in consideration but I'd be okay with just missing out, because then I have there's no question. If I'm a two loss, I can't get my third loss. I lost out on percentage points, so now I'm in, I mean again, he doesn't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1:But that could still happen with several teams, because you have that going on with SEC and, like I said, for a team sitting there like Ohio State, tennessee is that team now they're going to miss out potentially on, oh could on, sec championship but they're still gonna be in.
Speaker 2:But they're still gonna be in, yeah, and and then you got like Alabama, who's kind of sitting out, but then so you have all that going on.
Speaker 1:They kind of ruined themselves this week. They did put up three points against a not a very good Oklahoma defense, but that's a that's a.
Speaker 2:That's a big part of only having three points. So you have all that going on in the SEC. You've got the Big Ten in their situation.
Speaker 1:Sorry to our Bama friend. I know that's a hard one to relive and I know you're listening.
Speaker 2:But then you've got everything going on in the Big Ten, where it actually, like we've been talking about, I could see Ohio State or somebody actually benefiting from not going to the championship game and still being in. And then you got Big 12. Who's sitting there going? We have to win the championship game to get in, because they ain't putting none of us in if we don't.
Speaker 1:Well, so right now you have Indiana and Penn State who, potentially, are going to miss the championship game but they're still showing them as in and it's like all right, hey, we'll take another week of rest and have our guys healthy, and then we're going to go play a conference game for the first round. And here we go.
Speaker 2:Because it's different, especially Indiana, probably Penn State. If either one of those made it to the Big Ten Championship and lost, they're probably not in. So they're almost protected by not getting in If you look at who they've both lost to Ohio State that's it, yeah, but look how far Indiana dropped If they went and played a championship game and lost again.
Speaker 1:Indiana did drop, but they really didn't look good either.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Speaker 1:They looked like kind of what me and you expected them to look like Not really that great, but Penn State, that was a good game. I mean, yes, it was at Penn State, so that's tough, but they State, so that's tough, but they put up a good game. They just honestly couldn't score points. There was no touchdowns for their side offensively.
Speaker 2:It's for sure a mess. I love it.
Speaker 3:I love the mess, I love the chaos.
Speaker 2:It gives something to talk about, but again, it really means nothing. Next week it's going to all change again. Every time we've talked about this, even before the podcast, every time we've talked about it, like the next week, it feels like it all changes and what we said really didn't mean much, because things change.
Speaker 1:It's called content.
Speaker 2:It is for sure.
Speaker 1:Content that's for us it's giving us, and that's what we want to talk about.
Speaker 2:That's what they're doing with it, I guess, but um it is, and again, like I said, I love.
Speaker 1:It feels very much like an extended version of bracket selection for March Madness, because that's all kind of a one-day thing, let's do this, let's go, 64 teams, let's just go. Yeah, so what six and six Kentucky can get in? No thanks, I don't want to see that.
Speaker 2:Hey, that'd be fun. The first game can the 16 knock off a one.
Speaker 1:I mean, let's see what happens. Game. Can the 16 knock off a one? I mean, let's, let's see what happens. Well, so I I think with the nil era the talent pool is so much wider than it used to be, so like you're getting some of these teams, that they found some money. They've got some of these guys to come there some players and again we've seen this year. I know you've you've dabbled a little bit of. You know sports betting, you know a couple dollars here and there. Who do you pick?
Speaker 2:I am not doing well this season.
Speaker 1:It's very much like anybody is beating anybody every week.
Speaker 2:Like you said, I don't have the money to put big bets down like that, but it adds a little excitement.
Speaker 1:A few dollars here and there especially games I don't care about A game that you don't really have a dog in the fight.
Speaker 2:It makes it a little more exciting it kind of makes me want to root for one or the other. Sure, and I used to do really well on the in-game stuff watching the game see kind of how momentum changes and cash out and stuff.
Speaker 1:This year it just are so back and forth or you'll have a blowout on a side that you're like well, these guys were 15-point favorites and they just got beat by 30. Like, what do I do with that? Like, how do you follow that? And that's the thing.
Speaker 2:You know the guys that set these odds in Vegas or wherever they're at they're good at what they? Yeah, and this year it's everywhere. It is, it is, it's all over the place and there's probably a lot of factors With NIL. We mentioned kind of being some of that Right.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, I mean there's so much money moving all around, yeah. But so I know we kind of mentioned March Madness a few times and a good buddy of mine, you know we were out at 4U Golf and we were talking about it a little bit. This is a tease of a time of year because it feels very much like March Madness. There's all these early season tournaments and you have basketball all day, from the time you wake up to there's games that ended just a few minutes ago.
Speaker 2:I want to go to the Maui Invitation just so I can wear the shirts that they wear and stuff all the time, just for the flowered shirts Everybody wears it All the coaches, the announcers.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry to break it to you. I don't think you can pull it off. I don't know.
Speaker 3:You may think so, but somebody's going to have to lie to you.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean everything it I can do, it Come on. I mean you kind of have a Jay Billis look to you.
Speaker 3:Wow, I know.
Speaker 1:Sorry, my bad, but it's quite a bit older than me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but there's some shininess up there it's similar, there is, it's similar.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's exciting because you're getting really good teams one that we either didn't know was a good team yet somebody like Memphis making it to the maui invitational championship and not really on a radar to the same effect as you know, a kansas, a duke or any of these guys, and I mean six and oh, before getting b about auburn, um I think by like 12 or 13, but auburn's very auburn, they absolutely whooped my tar heels last night.
Speaker 1:I know it was like a 13 point game, but it didn't feel like that it felt like a 25 to 30-point game.
Speaker 2:Hey, speaking of Kansas, so did you see? I think it was Michigan State? Hunter Dickinson got ejected like 10 minutes left, or something like that. No, that was Duke.
Speaker 1:That's Kansas and Duke.
Speaker 2:That's right yes, so I thought without him?
Speaker 1:I haven't seen it. I just saw. I did see that he got ejected. I was curious because obviously Kansas Duke, two highly ranked teams, a lot of talent that's NBA bound.
Speaker 2:But I haven't seen the clip yet, so I'm curious. You kind of got to see it to have an opinion, to be honest with you Because it's one of those ends up on the floor. Ends up on the floor, his feet are kind of next to the guy's head and he kicks him in the face. I mean, he does Now intentional or not intentional.
Speaker 1:I've played a lot of basketball in my life. I mean, you're aware of this I've played into some very small collegiate level and that's not something that's common, it's not. You have more control of your body than some of these guys are like, oh, I was kind of all, and that's not something that's common, it's not. You have more control of your body than some of these guys Like, oh, I was kind of all over the place. No, you can control some of that.
Speaker 2:He makes it look accidental, but kind of like what you're saying. You're like well, how did your foot get from there to there? Correct?
Speaker 1:If I'm on the ground. My first thought is get up. I'm either loose ball or taking a charge or you know whatever you get tripped up, but my first thought's get up. Not my foot's going to go in some weird direction. Yeah, they start going under me. I get up to get back. And well, I've also had plenty of coaches say get your fat butt up and get back on defense, so you know that's part of it too, but, that's a whole separate, separate issue well, and that's with him going out and playing a team as good as Duke.
Speaker 2:I thought, okay, that's going to hurt them and they still just had no issues.
Speaker 1:They brought that freshman in who I can't even remember his name, but he played very little this year. Comes in and put up some good minutes. Didn't really have many stats, but he put up some good minutes against a pretty solid Duke team.
Speaker 2:I mean they're going to be tough.
Speaker 1:They. But he put up some good minutes against a pretty solid Duke team. I mean they're going to be tough. They are Hunter Dickinson. He's going to average a lot. He's going to have a lot of rebounds. I mean he's a double-double machine. So they're going to be tough come March.
Speaker 2:Kansas Duke Gonzaga looked really good but they lost. They got beat in overtime today, west Virginia?
Speaker 1:I think, yeah, west Virginia. But again we saw Gonzaga beat Baylor like a drum, and then Baylor beat Arkansas and then Is it? Going to be like football? I think so.
Speaker 2:I think from what I'm seeing already some of these scores.
Speaker 1:I had screenshot it. I mean we saw the back-to-back champion, uconn, lose back-to-back nights and we saw Hurley lose his mind. Which it is the Maui, those tournaments, it's like March Madness Anything can happen. You're playing night after night in a crazy environment If Hurley loses his mind that much at Maui.
Speaker 2:What's he going to do on a normal? That man's going to have an aneurysm. He's got to chill. I mean we're way too.
Speaker 1:It's what? Six, seven games deep, depending on where you've kind of been.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so he had assistant coaches holding him back and then he's like yelling at his assistant coaches and mad, and the thing is so it happened Demands perfection. I mean, he's just, he's at it. Well, it happened. And don't get me wrong, I like to see the passion, but at some point you've got to chill out a little, mind Correct and it kind of became a big thing. It was all over social media and everything, and okay, you know, he sees that somebody's like hey, you got you that. Well, he does it again the next night. So it's just, it's just who he is, I guess. And again, I love the passion?
Speaker 1:Very possible. That's a little more. Who back to back, every single night? I'm looking like I have the screenshot from yesterday. You know again, auburn's super good beat carolina. Should have been much worse. Uh, rank creighton gets beat ranked yukon gets beat ranked texas a&m gets beat um alabama beats a higher ranked houston. All of these games are like under 10 point games typically that I feel like are just runaway games, but it's so exciting like it makes me hate when these tournaments in because now it's like well, we've got a game twice a week. We've got big games that are shown on TV, you know maybe two, three, four times a week, but these are every game is just so good.
Speaker 2:It's been been good basketball. And let me ask you this, because you're probably more in depth with the basketball than I am. So we saw Kentucky beat Duke with the basketball than I am Sure sure. So we saw Kentucky beat Duke. Correct, we could have still go whatever it was, and nobody thought Kentucky would be that good. New coach brought in all new players. Where do you think Kentucky fits? Can they hang with Kansas and those players?
Speaker 3:So first off speaking of. Kentucky, this BSN Invitational is more like a BS.
Speaker 1:Invitational. The best team they invited was Western.
Speaker 2:Kentucky. Now wait a minute. So to be fair to Kentucky, so for those who don't know, I'm a Ohio State football fan, kentucky basketball fan. To be honest, I probably cheer for everything Kentucky outside of college football which is Ohio State.
Speaker 1:And there's a story behind that I say born there, it's family, it's very different.
Speaker 2:I was a Ohio State football fan when all I cared about was football and I got older and got into other sports and I was in Kentucky and yada, yada, yada. But this has been going on for several years. A little Seinfeld, yada yada yada, yeah, yada yada. I like it, I like it.
Speaker 1:So this little tournament has been going on for years and, yeah, they've never had good sponsorships, fred, it's always just bounced.
Speaker 2:So it happened when Coach Cal was there and he didn't want to go to the Maui Invitational and all those things.
Speaker 1:And so they kind of did their own thing. It's a tough travel, it's a lot of travel. Especially like Carolina's there. Acc, they travel across the country.
Speaker 2:It's no longer Atlantic and Cal's biggest thing was, if I'm going to go travel, I'm going to go travel and go to neutral courts. I want to go to these big arenas because he wanted his teams to play on courts like they're going to see in the final four, because they go to these big arenas and it's a different setup.
Speaker 1:He didn't have to worry much about that. Let's just be honest.
Speaker 2:He wasn't there that often, I mean at first he was, it was great, and then I think old man syndrome caught up with him or something.
Speaker 1:It just declined, steep decline. It wasn't good, but again, we've mentioned that as well Cal and Arkansas. I think this Kentucky team and it's hard to say lacks in talent because they're super talented still, but I think they're going to be so well coached and they're going to be so disciplined because that's what Pope expects of them that I think they are going to be very, very good.
Speaker 2:Well, they have to win as a team, for sure, and that includes Mark Pope as a coach. Yes, yes, because they don't have a guy that's just like Hunter Dickinson and these players that's just going to come take over.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't see Kentucky and say you know if I was to go watch a film on them and really just start picking stuff. And really just start picking stuff. I'm looking at three guys that score true scoring threats, where even on some of their platoon switches and this, that and the other, you still had one to two guys. That's who the ball is going to.
Speaker 2:They're going to score one of these guys.
Speaker 1:But this Kentucky team. They're going to go get a basket off of a well-drawn play from Pope and then they're going to go get a basket off of a well-drawn play for Pope.
Speaker 3:They have to do it as a team and then they're going to go execute it. It's not just going to be.
Speaker 1:Give it to this guy, let's ISO, let him get downhill. You may have a little bit of that, because that's kind of just how the game has switched to, but I don't think you're going to see that from Kentucky on just night in night out.
Speaker 2:It's going to be very well. For me.
Speaker 1:That's kind of exciting because I kind of hated even the Kentucky teams where they got Julius Randle and let's just throw it in to Randle and let him just get a basket and throw it in to him, and throw it in to him. I think they've done that on every team in the NBA that he's on. That's what he excels at.
Speaker 2:But I love seeing the team come together and make threes and spread the floor.
Speaker 1:I love to see back screens and screens away from the ball, and you know a big man that doesn't just roll off of a screen straight to the basket, he rolls to open space to where you know. Then he's popping this little, you know, semi-hook from 10 to 5 feet. That's what I noticed on Duke too.
Speaker 2:Duke has, you know, cooper Flag, obviously, and then Canipo, iso, iso, iso, iso.
Speaker 1:And that's all they do. I Cooper Flagg obviously.
Speaker 2:And then Knievel Iso, iso, iso, iso. That's all they do. I don't know if you saw towards the end of the Kansas game he'd done the same thing he did at the Kentucky game he got stopped, he spun, he got the ball stripped. And that's what he does every time.
Speaker 1:I think. What we're seeing there, though, is I don't think that's on Cooper Flagg.
Speaker 2:That's on John Shire, the coach of.
Speaker 1:Duke had a better call. That doesn't make sense. You can say he's the consensus preseason number one pick. Who cares?
Speaker 2:You still have to put him in a position to win. Following Kentucky basketball, I've seen all these talented players come through and if you really look back at a lot of the champions the past few years UConn, the past couple years you had Baylor win. A couple years you didn't have star players.
Speaker 1:You had a lot of older players that worked together as a team. Yeah, juniors and seniors going and winning championships.
Speaker 2:So, with that said, can Kentucky make it to the Final Four? Like, give me your can, they, will they. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 1:Early on. It's hard because I don't know that they're even the best team in the SEC. You might be right Alabama's good.
Speaker 2:They are Auburn's really good. We just talked about them.
Speaker 1:Alabama's another one. They just beat Houston tonight, who's been a very good team for several years. Now. You're seeing, nate Oates is a fantastic coach, teaches that team ball, hard-nosed defense, getting on the floor, that kind of thing. Auburn's another one that they play much more team-oriented. They're probably a little more freelance than some of the others, but they're still. They play such good, team-oriented upperclassmen. We're not the one-and-done types.
Speaker 2:So who's your pick right now?
Speaker 1:Final Four, oh gosh, that's an early Final Four pick.
Speaker 2:Hey, we got what Jimmy's playing, and all this stuff will be coming out soon, jimmy's plane. Ain't that what it is? Yeah it's something like that.
Speaker 1:Who's in first class and who's the not-amused early Final Four pick. I don't think it's stupid to pick Kansas. I don't think so either I think they're an easy pick right now. Pick Kansas. I don't think so. I think they're an easy pick right now, probably for me. I could see Kansas, auburn, probably UConn. Still, I think they're going to.
Speaker 2:I think it's so early.
Speaker 1:They may finish with five losses on the year, and that's probably a high number. They could finish with four, three, I mean. They may not lose again, there's no telling. But then you can hardly calm down a little bit. I don't see an ACC team making a really deep run. I don't think Duke is either coached well enough or has enough just depth to really do it.
Speaker 2:It's going to be all on Cooper flag If they go far.
Speaker 1:I don't know that I have a fourth right now, cause I think I honestly think we could see like a wild card, you could see an Iowa state, you could see gosh, you could see any number of team. But I think those three are to me are kind of pretty high up on the list. Pretty easy to say, yeah, we're going to see them late, late season and that's kind of some weak picks because they are top guys. But these are good team basketball with very well coached, well disciplined, know how to play some defense. They're not giving up 100 points a game. You know Kansas, a lot of their games they're living 70s. They're only giving up like points a game. Kansas, a lot of their games they're living 70s. They're only giving up like 60 to 70. So I mean they're playing good defense. I mean they know what they're doing.
Speaker 2:And it's early, and if they're hot already it could be dangerous. And you know the tournament's so random because you see a lot of these really good teams, you know we can see them losing the first weekend, second weekend, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't. It's always hard because you're going to have some of these lower you know mid-tier, for lack of a better term come in and make some kind of run, because it happens every single year. It's so hard to pick that until you really get late and see how somebody's playing. But I would be hard-pressed to say any of those three teams go out early, yeah. But at the same time I could switch Auburn and Alabama easy. Alabama could make another Final Four run, either of those teams.
Speaker 2:Personally, I hope Kentucky gets in the mix.
Speaker 3:I think they get in the mix.
Speaker 2:We just got to see where it goes. Does somebody emerge or not?
Speaker 1:Again, I'm not trying to speak bad on the ACC because I'm a Tar Heel basketball fan. I've lived here my whole life. You pick Carolina, you pick Duke, you got the two choices. But my whole family are Carolina fans, so that's kind of what I just naturally adapted to and growing up traveling to those games, that was it for me. So watching Carolina basketball, I learned so much from that. So to then see where they're at as a team now Hubert Davis, still early in the coaching career.
Speaker 2:Well, it's crazy because you just mentioned Duke kind of in that same line and both of those teams were powerhouses for so long with Coach K. Yeah, I mean historically, I mean those guys will say we had a horrible season.
Speaker 1:if we don't make at least a Sweet 16, elite Eight, like for Duke this year, I think they're not happy, unless it's an Elite Eight Final Four, which of course you're not happy. You want to win the championship.
Speaker 2:But I think they're going to say, on the metrics, we've got to make it at least to that point, we said this in football Is NIL changing this a little bit as well, this a little bit as well? I think it's changing all sports.
Speaker 1:I don't even think it's just your big ones because we don't talk about it, but, like soccer, hockey, all these smaller sports in America, it's true, I still think there's money changing hands there. I still think the pool of it is the deep teams or the older teams. The deep teams are not going to be your young ones.
Speaker 2:One thing I've noticed, too, is a lot are the older teams. The deep teams are not going to be your young ones, and one thing I've noticed, too, is a lot of the older coaches. We can say Coach K Williams Saban. In football they're kind of like I don't like this NIL stuff. I don't like that we have to raise money or pay in players and they're getting out and they're leaving it to them, and so it's kind of going to be who's the young guys coming up?
Speaker 1:Virginia lost their coach like a week before. What? Two weeks before the season? Yeah, for the same thing and he basically said I don't fit what's happening now. They need somebody that wants to do it. That way.
Speaker 2:That's a whole other thing I hate. When he done that, I'm sure it was because he wanted his assistant to be the coach, or whatever. Because he knew what college basketball was when last season ended. It could have went ahead and said, hey, this ain't for me, I want to move on, maybe.
Speaker 1:But who knows what behind closed doors happened, that it was finally like all right, that was the final straw, kind of last straw, yeah. I mean with anything like whenever you make a big life decision, there is something that hits that's like all right, that was the last straw, I can no longer do this.
Speaker 2:we've talked about this personal life.
Speaker 1:You've usually talked about making a change and you're like, yeah, I kind of like to change, but I'm not sure, or you're not sure how to what's really going to be the cause and something happens and you're like all right, that's it. I've already been thinking about it. I can no longer do it. I'm going to move on, you know. So I don't watch a lot of NFL, and when I have seen… Pot meat kettle, I don't watch much of it. I've watched more this year than I have in the past. It's a very different game. I prefer the college game.
Speaker 2:I'm the same way. I don't know. Now college may get to where it's more like the NFL, and then we'll see Eventually yeah, but for whatever reason, I like college when I fail, so I don't watch a lot of nfl, right, but in the past I've kind of checked this out a little bit, this specific show, and the other night I turned it on um gosh, I'm trying to remember who's even playing, because this isn't how much I cared about it, but I watched the manning cast, peyton and elon.
Speaker 1:okay, yeah, yeah and I tell you what I love the man I watched the entire thing.
Speaker 2:If I got up, I paused it. If I missed something, I rewound it, hang on.
Speaker 1:Were you watching the football or were you watching them?
Speaker 2:Well, it was a little bit of both, so I found myself at times.
Speaker 1:Or more, just their commentating on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I found myself at times missing something out of the game, so or vice versa, but I wanted to catch everything of all of it. And they had some good guests on. Bill Belichick was on there with them, the Olsen brothers, so I could probably get behind that more. Coach Vramble was on with them and it's funny, it's just entertaining.
Speaker 1:I think I could get behind that more because I don't have to focus so much on the NFL game, because the NFL to me it's just's just again. It's not as fun, like it's slowly what college is kind of turning to. It's a bunch of guys getting paid a ton of money. It's. It's a little different.
Speaker 1:You'll have that same pride like yes, they want to win a championship because there's bonuses there's, you know, there's pride, there's legacy there's, there's all those things, but it's just it doesn't feel the same to me. So maybe something like that, because I do like both Peyton and Eli, it's really polished.
Speaker 2:the NFL game is, in a sense, for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like some of the mess that college can be, because this guy that's on the end, that's majoring in communications and is on his sixth year and seventh team on 14 different red shirts.
Speaker 2:Are we talking about Florida State's quarterback? Because that's like 17th team. Okay, yeah, now wait. Are we talking about Florida State's quarterback? Because that's like 17th team.
Speaker 1:Okay well, yeah, sorry, dj, but I mean at this point maybe switch over to coaching. I don't know if that's the better fit. I mean now Florida State did get their second win of the season. They did. It was against no one.
Speaker 2:I can say I don't even know who it was?
Speaker 1:It was no different than taking a forfeit, but I still think they only scored like 24 points. Yeah, just a lot of money on that team not to be winning too.
Speaker 2:But that's kind of where I am with college football and NFL. But I will say you're kind of the same way. You don't watch a lot of NFL. No, watching the Manning cast does give it a completely different perspective, and I'm more of a football guy than a basketball guy or any sport I played football in guy or any sport.
Speaker 1:I played football and I understand it. Coach, yeah, but I'm the same way like. I'll watch college basketball, but I don't watch the nba like pro sports for me is just it's just it's not been good for a while now I'll watch. We get to the nba playoffs. I'll start watching a little bit then, because I feel like nobody plays all year. And then all of a sudden, the playoffs. You have lower scoring games. There's defense being played. Now we started to care instead of let's score.
Speaker 2:I mean the knicks scored 145 last night last night or night before against the nuggets, I can't say the last time I turned on an nba game that's if any team I was ever on we gave up 145 points, I don't think I'd be alive today like we would have ran so much that is absolutely no.
Speaker 1:no defense we would have had so many drills Like I just don't know how you give up that many points?
Speaker 2:Okay, so, since you brought this up, I'll get back to the Manicast in a second. But when they give up that many points, which? Is it no defense, or is the talent just so good? No, it's no defense.
Speaker 1:I kind of feel that way too. The Knicks shot 60%, okay, yeah, percent, okay, yeah, like I mean again, we're not going deep into stats because that's we just don't really care that much about it, but they shot 60, like, yes, part of that is they're hot but at the same time play some real defense, yeah like they, they don't, they don't rotate over the same. They don't, they just don't care like they're. They're gonna get paid.
Speaker 2:They're all those guys are there to score like you.
Speaker 1:You have so few guys that are true defenders just trying to be entertaining.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just, it's, it's not fun to watch, for me like I love watching the college game.
Speaker 1:Like I said, you've got a guy that knows.
Speaker 2:This is it for me, and I'm going to show you everything I got, and if the listeners can't tell now, if you're turning this show on to hear what happened in the nba, you might as well turn it back off, because that's wait for the playoffs we'll talk about playoffs and we're probably gonna get into a whole lot of depth in I mean we'll talk about some, because at that point there's not much else on and that's the thing. We don't even talk a lot about the nfl.
Speaker 1:We'll get into it a little bit um, and tomorrow is thanksgiving, so happy thanks will drop.
Speaker 2:Maybe it'll be during Thanksgiving. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it should be out, probably about Thanksgiving lunch. We should be able to get it out by then.
Speaker 2:I'm sure we're what you want to listen to after you eat instead of watching football, but we appreciate it if you are listening.
Speaker 1:So the trip to Fannin, Turkey, we could probably help put you to sleep.
Speaker 3:It's right there with it.
Speaker 1:That's Now I would say just keep letting us play, don't turn us off, just let it keep going. Just let us ramble.
Speaker 2:Okay, but back to the main cast. So I love the football aspect, the way they break down the game and they can call the plays ahead of time and all this. So that makes it entertaining for me. So if you haven't got to do that, definitely check that out. It's fun, it's entertaining.
Speaker 1:It makes you want to stay with it.
Speaker 2:But here next monday night was the money not next, I keep hearing the same, I know where this is going.
Speaker 1:We have a simpsons game, not next week, the week after.
Speaker 2:Yes, so if you put on I think it's disney plus or espn plus you can watch the simpsons animation, and I'm not 100 sure what it's going to be like apparently it's home over to bart what it's. Cowboys and. Bengals.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:So, that's a. I mean everyone will watch the Simpsons Cats because the game is not going to matter.
Speaker 2:Oh no, and the NFL said they can bump out Monday night football games if they're not good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean they flex stuff all the time. Yes, They'll switch out for a better game.
Speaker 2:But because they have all this animation and stuff ready to go. It's stuck, it's stuck, it's got to be there. So that's probably.
Speaker 1:I'll probably check it out a little bit I mean, I would much prefer, if you're going to do that, maybe chiefs bills would be a good one, or I guess they thought this was gonna be the lions in that at some point.
Speaker 2:I mean they're a well-lost team maybe they knew how bad the teams are going to be. So that's why they said let's do simpsons on that one, to get some something else kind of traction to maybe watch well, I mean, listen, the, the simpsons will have plenty to make fun of the cowboys for, because they are awful well, apparently it's going to be homer versus bart.
Speaker 2:You're going to have, uh, lisa and marge on the sideline as reporters, maybe some special guests here and there. So what? I didn't realize because I don't follow the nfl. Last year they done a toy story game game.
Speaker 1:I did not know that I did not know that, so I went back and watched it.
Speaker 2:And the players were kind of animated as like their bigger helmets Okay, and they were playing in like Andy's room, but it really I was kind of like it was kind of boring, so what.
Speaker 1:I also didn't know, is I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 2:This past Super Bowl on Nickelodeon you could watch the SpongeBob Right right. I do remember that, yeah, and I went and kind of watched a little bit of it and I thought the same thing it was kind of boring. So I'm hoping this one is way better. Well, but I don't think that's targeted to you either.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean maybe not Sorry, jay Billis attention. I didn't grow up watching it. It just was not a show that we really watched in our house. So but I know, I mean obviously you and my wife being brother and sister, that is a show that she talks about that y'all watched a lot.
Speaker 2:And I haven't watched it in a super long time, but I remember as a kid, you know. So they're on what?
Speaker 1:like season 40. It feels like it's been around forever. Yeah, it has been. No, I think they're better at predicting the future than your fortune teller on the corner, it seems to be. They've gotten a lot of things right, which is hilarious. So, no, that doesn't do a whole lot for me. I mean, I think it's interesting. You may draw some non-football people in.
Speaker 2:Will you watch the Simpsons game?
Speaker 1:No, okay, no, I have no desire for that because, but again, I really didn't have any interest in the Simpsons. Like, obviously I think you know who it is. The Simpsons are super popular. That was, you know, huge when I was growing up. It's just not something we watch, so I don't really care about it.
Speaker 2:I'll probably turn it on to check it out, okay, and then probably go to the Manning cast.
Speaker 1:I see, I know how it is, because I don't really think I'll be interested.
Speaker 2:Even the Manning cast it's not like well, if I miss it oh well, it's not like oh man, I've got to turn this on Super exciting, yeah, but I do like Eli and Peyton in that role.
Speaker 1:So I do feel like I watched a lot more NFL when Peyton was still there. I mean, he was just a true pocket quarterback. He's not the mobile guy which, again, I have nothing against the mobile guy. It's just I felt like their teams were very much. We've got good outside guys. We've got good slots. Let's go out and score points and beat people. It was fast-paced, but it was, I don't know. It just felt very different compared to what it is now. So yeah, when Peyton and Eli both were still there, I feel like I watched a lot more of it. I don't know if you're kind of the same or if it's kind of altered over the years or if you were ever really watching much of it.
Speaker 2:I didn't watch a whole lot of it. Even then, some of it, college football always had my attention, and so that's where I stayed. And speaking of college football, because I want to go back to one quick thing that I've heard you say, and I keep hearing everybody- say oh boy, here we go. Yeah, it's driving me nuts.
Speaker 1:Okay, I have a general idea.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you probably know exactly what's going on. I have a general idea. I am so tired of hearing well, this team beat so and so, and they was a five seed at that moment, or whatever seed they were, and we're talking about seven eight weeks ago. I do not care what the team was ranked. Don't tell me, well, they beat a good team seven weeks ago because that team was ranked fifth, okay, but now they're ranked 20th, so apparently they weren't as good as we thought. So that should not play into factor, Because what they are now is more realistic outside of injuries or something crazy. So that's hard Of who they are.
Speaker 1:That's the thing. If you're a second-ranked team and you've got a Heisman hopeful quarterback and he blows out his knee after the season, of course that team's going to change a ton I understand that that's going to change a ton, but then how do you make the difference? How do you differentiate that?
Speaker 2:Was there an?
Speaker 1:injury Was there not?
Speaker 2:Here's my thing. Let's say what happens Preseason number one team comes in the first week, they get beat. By the end of the year, that number one team ain't even ranked anymore. By the end of the year, that number one team ain't even ranked anymore. They just fell off. They wouldn't know what we thought. Well, that team that beat them at the first week shouldn't be able to say yeah, we beat the number one team. They were number one when we beat them. So what? They aren't any good, we just had it wrong in the ranking.
Speaker 1:Somebody ranked them wrong. So to Both teams are kind of just nothing. Georgia Tech is bowl eligible, florida State is awful, just awful. But so like Georgia beginning of the year beats Clemson, okay Well, both those teams are still doing well. So if Clemson would have all of a sudden fell off or that game just kind of ruined it for them, or maybe they don't have the star, get hurt, but you have three or four good role players that you lose. Now you're not deep. It changes so many things. It's hard to say that it wasn't a good win. It does.
Speaker 2:But maybe we just had them ranked wrong. I mean, like Ohio State beat Indiana this week, what was they ranked fifth yeah it was two versus five. Okay, ohio State shouldn't be able to sit there and say we beat number five team. I get you beat number five team. Indiana ain't the fifth best team in the country.
Speaker 1:They were ranked wrong, but by rankings they are. Like it's hard to say, well, yeah, they got ranked wrong. Well, but by way of everything else happening, that's where our rankings are. I mean, we've got what? Four or five Big 12 teams ranked in the top 25. But we'll both sit here and say, well, they're not that good, but they're still ranked. It's just kind of by way of everything else happening. And now we're towards the end of the season.
Speaker 2:So I can understand a little bit more now, because by now you kind of know what the teams are. It's hard when they and they haven't played good teams and no good schedules, but it's those early weeks that I hate, when people look back and go well, they had a win, and when they beat them they were ranked really high, Right, right. I don't care what they were ranked then. Well, so we take a look.
Speaker 1:You can flip it the other way too, though. A perfect example, though, before you make that switch. A perfect example Notre Dame. Notre Dame beat Louisville when they were ranked. Yep, notre Dame beat Navy when they were ranked.
Speaker 2:And neither one of those teams are any good, and we're finding that out now.
Speaker 1:I mean Navy's still like what 9-2?
Speaker 3:I mean they're still a good team. Now, that's a relative, I guess.
Speaker 1:But then Army, army's got one loss so they were ranked highly when they beat them. So you know, both those teams may lose the rest of their games when the season's over go look at Notre Dame.
Speaker 2:It's okay, you beat this team, this team, this team. What do those teams rank now? Because that's who they really are, not who they were when you played them the first week or the second week.
Speaker 1:That's going to affect your rankings at the time too, Because they're going to do rankings throughout the whole season. So then do we just not rank them through the season?
Speaker 2:No, I think when, like this next Tuesday, when they put out rankings, they should factor in If you beat a good team. What is that team right now? Were they really as good as we thought they were? Okay, just because you had a good win in week two, maybe that team wasn't as good a win as we thought.
Speaker 1:Well. So I think what they look at with that is opponents' win percentage, because I mean, the last time I looked, ohio State's opponent win percentage was barely above 500. Oregon's is like four something.
Speaker 2:But that's even going to play into who you played Like who do those teams play to get those?
Speaker 1:You know the SEC, the Big 12, or, excuse me, the Big 10, or even the Big 12 as well. They're not going to play a ton of crazy non-conference games because they're going to beat each other up, Like again, big tens, not super deep, but those top four, they're all playing each other, they're all going to be each other up. Now somehow, oregon missed, penn state missed everybody missed.
Speaker 1:Indiana missed all the big games. So you know, the scheduling for their first year was very beneficial to them. Where, but really like all the teams, I mean Ohio? Where, but really like all the teams, I mean Ohio State got all three of those.
Speaker 2:But then Penn State didn't get all of those, Indiana didn't get all of those so it's hard to compare them, but still that's where I get. The rankings aren't going to be great. It's still like you can't go off of schedules everything's going to be open for interpretation it is.
Speaker 2:But when you tell me what that team is ranked at the end of the season, that's who I care about. Who they are, not what you rank them at the first game. So I don't care. Don't come bragging to me. We beat the number one team the first game of the season. If they're now ranked 20th at the end, vanderbilt beating Bama.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly, yeah, but for Vanderbilt I'm going to claim that forever. We, we beat number one Bama.
Speaker 2:But Bama was never number one. We just didn't know it yet, but they were at the time. I mean that's the thing we didn't know.
Speaker 1:But they were. I mean, they were ranked number one. They were undefeated, ranked number one and at the time everyone thought, yeah, they're going to be the Bama that they've been, they're going to continue to win. And again, they still have only lost three games. It's not like Bama's having a bad year.
Speaker 2:It's just bad by Bama standards. But we do find out now at the end of the season that, okay, maybe Bama wasn't as good as we thought. So I think that's got to take a little weight with Vandy.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, Vandy beat the number one team.
Speaker 2:It may be hard to say in the SEC, because we've already had that talk of well, it's a little deep the number one team, but at the end of the season you can't go through Vandy ranked really high because, oh, they beat the number one team. Well, no, Alabama wasn't as good as we thought.
Speaker 1:Vandy's not going to be ranked very high just because they won that, they still got beat by some crap teams.
Speaker 2:Well, no, I agree, vandy's Vandy.
Speaker 1:I agree, thinking we're not going to take what's happening now, because then that's going to, it's going to affect your late season rankings as well, because if you don't take in effect, you know the 25 just beat the one, so they've got to move up, it's going to jump them pretty good because they got that win. Well, if we don't take it in effect then and then we try to lower them later, really we should have never ranked anybody at all and then again.
Speaker 1:That makes it just boring, because then you're going to sit here and say we don't know who's actually good. You've got four undefeateds and you can't compare it. So it's maybe too much of an overload of stats that causes some of this. It is, but I think it's still good that it matters who you beat when, because there's so many different things that can happen there's suspensions, there's injuries, there's coaching changes.
Speaker 3:There's who knows. Well, that's with every team too.
Speaker 1:UNLV had NIL issues of not wanting to pay players and those guys decided to redshirt. So there's weird stuff that happens. So I mean I kind of like that they take into account. I don't think you say you beat the number one period Like it doesn't stop there for me, but I do think at the time it's like you had a big win on the road against a good team.
Speaker 2:It's definitely a win against a good team it's going to hold some weight.
Speaker 1:How good were they? It depends on how much weight they actually let it hold.
Speaker 2:I don't know so let me kind of flip that a little bit. So if a team goes on and wins the national championship and they were never ranked really that high, but they, I don't know, take anybody, I can't think right off hand. Let's say, smu somehow wins the national championship, man, that'd be fun, or I don't want to use that from you.
Speaker 1:I don't want it, but it'd be fun.
Speaker 2:But let's say you knocked off that national championship early in the season. The eventual national champion. Can you then go? I beat the national champion? I think you can, even though it was early in the season.
Speaker 1:I can say it was their only loss. But I mean at the end of the day, especially once you get to a bracket. To me it's a wash like it's, we're all in it.
Speaker 3:We gotta figure it out.
Speaker 2:I hate using that backside because that same team who? Alright, I beat the 20 ranked team in the first week of the season, but they just went during the national championship. I beat the number one team, not the 20th, so that's my only point is I hate looking at what they were when it happened On that same graphic, though.
Speaker 1:Then I feel like it's the UCF of a few years ago. We were undefeated, so we're claiming national championship. Oh, you can't do that, Sorry. It just doesn't work that way, so that to me is no.
Speaker 2:I mean Florida State was in a similar situation last year.
Speaker 1:Then they got beat 60-something to three.
Speaker 3:That doesn't even matter at all.
Speaker 2:But that goes to show that teams are so different year to year. It ain't like it used to be, where you brought back a lot of your team and you kind of kept building off of that. Now it's a one-year team and you have no idea what's coming the next year.
Speaker 1:No, I mean that's. The thing is like I said. We've got super deep SEC, Some of these teams that are having, I guess, a bad year by term. You know, Alabama's got a few losses, Georgia had two, Ole Miss has three. I think we're going to see some of those guys transfer because we expected to go win right away. Well, you did.
Speaker 2:You just ran up against some really good teams at a bad time. If they want to go to a better team, who are they going to? Because they're all losing like that Ohio, state and Oregon, we're all losing like that Ohio.
Speaker 1:State and Oregon, I guess Is everybody going to go to the Big Ten. I mean, we're just going to make some changes and all going to go there.
Speaker 2:I think that the playoff will show a lot.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad that we're going to get to see that I do, I mean.
Speaker 2:We had so many years of like two SEC schools, so is 12 enough.
Speaker 1:Is 12 enough teams? Do we see it expand in another eight years or are we going to see probably 12 is where we sit for a really long time well, I mean, what's probably going to dictate, that is the money and the sponsors and the bowl games, and well, I mean money rules all, unfortunately, so that's, that's always going to be part of it. To me, 12 is enough for right now so I like 12.
Speaker 1:I think it's. It's going to cause some controversy still, which I think is good for sports. I think it's still good that it's a little bit of chaos, but at the same time, we're not missing five and six who could be one loss. That lost only number one and we want to see a rematch. We want to see some of that the only thing I could see.
Speaker 2:I would be okay going 16 and get rid of the buys, like that. Yeah, I could see that. Go ahead and give those conference champions the one through four seeds, so you did get a benefit of winning your championship, like. Like, you get to be the top seeds, right, so it helps you on who you're playing, but you don't have to give them a bye Like that's, let's just play.
Speaker 1:No, I think. The hard part about that, though, is, if they don't get a bye, like we said, that team that's in five that didn't make the conference championship. They've played one less game. At that point it's almost. Do we even have a conference championship? Do we just regular season? It's done. Now we go to the playoff, because now you're making these teams play an additional game just to get a high seed and still have to play more games.
Speaker 2:So that's really hard to fight. For that there's more benefit to say yeah, I don't even want to go to the championship game if I'm in the top.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's why I think we roll with 12 for a long time. I don't see us changing it anytime soon. I mean, BCS was around a long time. We did one and two.
Speaker 2:One and two was it, that's all we cared about.
Speaker 1:That was horrible. Yeah, looking back at it now, I mean, the BCS rankings were such a mess, you zero sense. And then all of a sudden, well, this team has .832 points.
Speaker 2:What the heck does that mean? Nobody cares. I just give you something that's easy to understand. Right now we're talking a lot of college football.
Speaker 1:We are, and that's going to change. That's what's going on right now. I want to bring up something. We still have a few weeks. All right, let's bring it. I'm super excited about this. I don't know your thoughts. I don't know. I'm scared. What are you going to bring up? Pga versus Liv Rory McIlroy, scotty Scheffler versus Bryson DeChambeau and Brooks Koepka? So is this like a special yes, 18-hole match, december 17th?
Speaker 1:They actually just got a sponsor today which they're like oh, we got this perfect sponsor it makes no sense, scotty, and who, scotty and rory, okay, verse brooks and bryson, so basically the two two of the best two of the best pga verse two of the best live well, but I'm going to tell you, the weak link there to me is brooks I don't know about that I mean, I know he's pretty good, but I almost you know you can call this whatever you want to call it. I think Rory's the weak link there.
Speaker 2:So that's the two I don't like. I think you could replace both of those two with somebody better.
Speaker 1:I really think Rory is the one that could be the weakest, because all three of those guys have won majors way more recent than Rory. Rory's winning some tournaments, but he's not winning anything big. He's not winning anything big. So I mean, obviously, Scotty Scheffler has had an unbelievable run, yeah, but that's another live If you're going to take out one of those.
Speaker 2:I'd rather see him instead of Brooks. I'd rather see him there. But I could say the same thing about Rory. I could take somebody out.
Speaker 1:Brooks is a little more polarizing. Yeah, he's got a little more to him. And of course you had the whole Bryson versus Brooks thing from a few years ago and now they're buddies playing together. So that's interesting too, but I mean Bryson.
Speaker 2:Are they just going to get mad at each other? I don't think so.
Speaker 1:So now they've squashed all that. They've come out openly, they're friends. Come out openly like they're friends, they're good like it's. It's all done. But I think you know scotty is obviously the most popular in the golf world, but I think bryson's the most popular there on the course. I mean bryson's what like two million youtube subscribers yeah yeah, he is getting so he's younger crowd.
Speaker 2:He's really helping grow. I don't know?
Speaker 1:have you? Have you seen any what he's doing right now? Over his house, yeah, so he's trying to make a hole in one-one over his house.
Speaker 2:What day? How many is he on?
Speaker 1:We're on like day 16 or something. Okay, I wouldn't say it's something pretty far at this point, but even like the first one wasn't far off? No, but if so, there for a while. The metrics on it. He was getting more viewership on that a day than PGA broadcasts were.
Speaker 2:I can see that.
Speaker 1:So a non-PGA. He's not in the limelight, but it's YouTube. It's.
Speaker 2:TikTok, it's all the social media stuff. So he is getting you know like averaging 4 million views a day. It's something crazy. Yeah, even if you don't care about golf, you would turn it on and want to see.
Speaker 1:But I mean, basically you're watching a rich dude hit over his glass house.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Now it's cool because you know he's changed so much since he left the.
Speaker 2:Pga, is he gonna shank one into a window?
Speaker 1:no, I couldn't imagine that'd be so if he does that? One's not that one's not recorded. We lost the footage for that one.
Speaker 2:I can't imagine. All of a sudden, the day pops up. You got a window missing.
Speaker 1:You're like what happened there? He's got like two giant cracks right in front of him oh no, that, that's there, it's part of the architecture we, we just uh that's some confidence, though, to hit over your house.
Speaker 2:It's all the glass there.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, but I mean look at the shot he hit at Pinehurst to win the championship. I mean out of that bunker stuck at how he did, like the man's got confidence.
Speaker 3:He's fine, he's good.
Speaker 1:I mean he's one of the longest hitters of the golf ball on any pro tour circuit. I mean there's a couple guys that that hit it farther but not have the success that he does.
Speaker 2:It would probably hurt his image a little bit to put one through the window, but like, bring a buddy on that's going to help you and let him put one through the window, like I want to see.
Speaker 1:If he does that, I think he has more viewers on that he doesn't when he makes.
Speaker 2:I think so too because it's gonna be like oh look, the pro shanked it like I do that he needs somebody to put one through the window, just for the call me I got it, I got you like listen, I won't even try to do it to go in the window like he's.
Speaker 1:He's one like we're looking at wear patterns and he's hitting it out of the center. Don't look at my clubs like. You're gonna see some toes.
Speaker 2:You're gonna see some hozzles hey, my wear pattern is the same, it's just none of them's in the center right.
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, so a lot of consistency on the outside. I just want to go through a window.
Speaker 1:I'll give my number like hit me up. I will gladly make the trip to texas and I could probably take out a few of those if you want I mean with one ball to get a few windows no, I mean I'd like to do with a few like, I want more than one shot at it.
Speaker 1:but you know, that's one of those things. I think we're seeing a lot of people kind of parody, that now there's a bunch on social media of these guys trying it. There's one guy that's doing it over one of those Fisher-Price little kids' houses just joking around.
Speaker 2:Hey, we might be able to do that. I got one of those out of the yard.
Speaker 1:I'd say, yeah, we could easily do that. No, I'm not going to say make it. We could easily set that tomorrow thanksgiving, bring it out, bring it out, bring your clubs, and I'm gonna, I'm bringing a bucket, though I can't make it a cup.
Speaker 2:I need, I need like a five gallon bucket. Give me all the the chance I can get. So how many times they get 10 shots? How many make it over bryson's house and on the green? If I get 10 shots, if you get 10 shots, how many are going over the house on the?
Speaker 1:green. So currently I honestly feel decent with my swing, like I feel like I've been hitting it really well.
Speaker 2:I mean the goal is. The secret to it is pretending there's not a house there, right, so I can get 10 over the house.
Speaker 1:I fully believe I'll get 10 over the house, but I may get zero on the green. Yeah, because it's such a feel shot Like and again it's not. Even it's not like we're, we're playing on a pristine course that you know the green catches a certain way Like it's very different. So you know, obviously it's Bryce and he's got all the nice to the nice stuff. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that he's, he's hitting on the muni practice here, I mean. But yeah, so I think I've got 10 over the house and I think probably zero on the green.
Speaker 2:I don't think I'm hitting the green at all. I think I could put some over the house and I don't know if it's gonna be all 10. But just don't fill the sink up with water, because my ball will go right to that sink every time if it's got water oh yeah, you, you, you could find water on the moon yeah yeah, I mean I, I've, I've played with you enough, I've seen do it.
Speaker 1:You could be hitting great all day.
Speaker 2:Oddly enough, some of the best shots I've hit has been alongside of water, but most of the time If you run parallel to it.
Speaker 1:It's trying to go there, but just follows it.
Speaker 2:The whole way. That's what it is. It doesn't actually go to it. I just kind of keep it to the side.
Speaker 3:But no, if you've got to hit it, it's going in.
Speaker 1:Which, again, I try not to laugh at it, but sometimes it's like you've hit it perfect all day and then you do that.
Speaker 2:And it just makes no sense. It's a mental thing, of course. Golf is so much mental and you know, like me, I love that part of it, though.
Speaker 1:You can't conquer it.
Speaker 2:There's no beating, no I agree, you're never gonna beat it and I very seldom get to practice, which is crazy because we own a driving range, but it's just time, I guess, whatever. So I don't practice, I'm just going on the course and it's like man, I'm horrible.
Speaker 1:Why am I?
Speaker 2:horrible because I ain't practiced.
Speaker 1:But here's the thing you don't practice. We don't just own a driving range, all right, we don't just own this field, that's out there in the middle of nowhere, we own a range with top tracer range, powered by top tracer range. Okay, so, and it's?
Speaker 3:a blast.
Speaker 1:I messed around with it two nights ago they added a couple more courses. Didn't realize it played one. Wedges were awful. It was a horrible round, but like we have so many tools at, our disposal and we rarely. I know, and we rarely hit. It's crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:If I didn't own it I'd probably be there all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, we put so much time into running it, which is a big part of it.
Speaker 2:So it's hard to find time just to stop and hit and all that Well, and we have kids and sports and all these different things going on Well yeah, I mean both of our season.
Speaker 1:You know, coaching your daughter's team and you know, you heck, you just came from coaching softball and then now coaching basketball and you know, you know we're gonna run the show do the dad stuff yeah, I mean it's part of it. I mean which again, I don't. I would not change that. Like I love the dad side of things I love get to see them grow up.
Speaker 1:Through things. You know, shout out to my little one just decided to become potty trained over the past few days. Through things, you know, shout out to my little one just decided to become potty trained over the past few days loving that, you know no diapers, and, and you know, so we're, we're good with number one, we're still number two is a little harder, which I get.
Speaker 2:I get that.
Speaker 1:That takes a good time but no, he, he, literally, we decided on sunday, I think it was. It was like all right, we're done.
Speaker 2:It's like they just turned it on. We're done.
Speaker 1:It's so he is done really, really well with it so far. So like super excited about that and if you're not a parent, you don't understand why you're so excited about that oh my gosh, like I was literally in the bathroom with him this evening. He's walking over there to go pee and I'm like this is awesome, this is great.
Speaker 3:I'm so proud of him like it's such a cool thing because he struggled with it for so long, just didn't care, didn't really have the same drive because my older one, we didn't even do it, he did it himself.
Speaker 1:Yeah like he just decided yeah, I'm gonna go potty.
Speaker 2:Well, that's so I've got two that are still right, training Right Two little boys, and I don't know if I thought the two would help, like one would do it and the other would follow. I almost think it hurts, okay, because if one doesn't care as much, the other one doesn't care as much.
Speaker 1:The other one's like why would I if he doesn't? Or you know, one's mad because the other one is, so it's almost like're both going to do it.
Speaker 2:I'm hoping one of them just like come on, let's go get this done.
Speaker 1:And somebody leads the it's time. Come on, sorry.
Speaker 2:Like we've gave the parents enough hard time. Let's go get it done. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I know your kids, I mean, they may just want to gives you that little stare and it's like yep he did that for a little bit. He does exactly Well because my little one's the same way. I mean, they're very, very different than my oldest. They could not be more different.
Speaker 2:All kids are so different.
Speaker 1:As far as kids, I mean, it's amazing to me same mom, same dad, same circumstances, like nothing is really different, and how different they are like whether it's personality or facial expressions there's all those things.
Speaker 2:Everybody's always said that, but you don't know it until you have several kids. And and you've got two, I've got three and yeah, they're all so different in what they like and their mannerisms and and well, that's. That's.
Speaker 1:The thing for me is what I say all the time, because my parents used to say it time flies when you have kids. I'm like that makes no sense.
Speaker 2:That makes zero sense to me. It does.
Speaker 3:And then we just celebrated my oldest ninth birthday the other day and I'm like I'm not old enough to have a nine-year-old. When did that happen?
Speaker 1:So then it's like man, I'm old, my kids are getting old.
Speaker 3:And it's just like holy crap, where did that go?
Speaker 1:It comes up fast Because I remember being in the hospital with him. I remember when he was born. So it's like how are we at nine years all of a sudden? I mean, you've got one that's almost a teenager.
Speaker 2:Sorry to mention that, but it's coming soon.
Speaker 1:She'll be 12 here in a few months. That's what I'm saying, though it's not much longer, and boy, I'm finding out girls and boys are so different.
Speaker 3:Girls are different.
Speaker 2:So when I first had when the girls were born. I remember telling my wife like I don't know what to do with a girl. I'm a boy, I've been a boy all my life. Of course I'm fairly young at that point, in my mid-20s or whatever, and you kind of figure it out, you just become a girl. Dad right, you just figure it out.
Speaker 1:But then most people I know that that are girl dads. They they're like it's so different, but it is. It's different in such a good way.
Speaker 3:It is like which is kids?
Speaker 1:Nothing's necessarily inherently bad. It's just girls Very, very different.
Speaker 2:Girls have different emotions and different feelings and you gotta, you know, tread those a little bit different. Sure, but then we go to we had a big span and and we end up having our other two boys like seven years later. Right, and then I go, crap, I've been a girl dad for seven years, how do I be a boy dad now? And so it all it was seven years.
Speaker 1:At that point it was like how do I, how do I be? A diaper dad again wake up in the middle of the night with these, like it's so much different it was almost starting over again because they'd been so long, which we thought was gonna have one kid took so long in between why that sounded horrible.
Speaker 2:I didn't really mean it like, like you had such a gap in between, and then it was like back to back because we were kind of fine just having one and we thought we'd have one and we talked about having more, but it was like, yeah, we'll have one, it's fine.
Speaker 1:And she was getting to the age, getting older, it's like well, now I kind of remember y'all having that discussion, because we I mean obviously all this hanging out all the time. It was kind of like your wife hayley was saying if she was the only child and there's times she wish she had and I wasn't- and there was times I would have been okay, right, and when you're not the only child. You're like man at times.
Speaker 2:I'm wrong I love my siblings, but you know, they would say the same thing love them from afar. Yeah, they would say the exact same thing, so I have no problem saying that, because there's moments, well.
Speaker 1:So it was kind of weird, like for me, my brother's six and a half years older than me, so kind of similar to like your oldest and then your next one. So I got to live a little bit of both, you know a little bit of living with a sibling, but then obviously he was out of the house well before I was.
Speaker 2:So then he was kind of the only child.
Speaker 1:So then, I was kind of the only child. Which one was better? Oh I'm trying to sit here and think Well, he was so much older than you, it might have been kind of cool, yeah neither, I guess, would I call it better, because it's such a different period of life, like if they were reversed, like I was younger alone, older with somebody might have been better because obviously we got much closer the older I got yeah, just the more for sure, more things in common we had, you know.
Speaker 1:We obviously got much closer so it's a whole lot easier. But obviously it's hard with kids. I mean, my little one terrorizes my older one like it's just the way. It is like the older one right, he, he is absolutely bullied by the little one and sometimes, you know, not all the time because it can be very frustrating, but sometimes it's hard not to laugh because the things that they're getting mad over I'm like but but we did the same thing. That gummy is red and it should have been orange. I'm like cool right?
Speaker 2:yeah, sure I can remember some of the the tricks that me and my older brother played on on your wife, my younger sister and you see, I was the little one so the.
Speaker 1:I was the younger one, so there's only two of us. I was the one that always had that stuff played against me.
Speaker 2:Oh, there's some great stories. It's not fun.
Speaker 1:Not fun. Oh, she probably hated it, which I hated some of the things my older brother you know the way he was to me and they and I'm like it's kind of funny like as a boy I'm like, yeah, if I had a sister, she was a younger sister too, so she got a lot of it, but of course.
Speaker 2:But so, since we're talking about family, something that um kind of been on our mind this week so, uh, we know, the hurricane came through western north carolina yeah, hurricane helene right two months ago now yeah, it was right there at the beginning of october and so, um, we partnered with uh uld and shark attack golf and some local I don't want to name people because I'll forget people. I don't have a list in front well, so, just real quick uld is ultimate long drive.
Speaker 1:They are international company. Um, they've got kind of a local chapter I guess you'd call yeah, um, it's a Western Carolina, upstate, south Carolina kind of thing. Um, so they're, they're a big professional long drive company. So it was really cool that they, they, they actually reached out to us to partner, which is awesome they come down, done a big event.
Speaker 2:We kind of tagged along with it had had, you know, great turnout for the community and we'd done that about a month after the hurricane and so week or so ago, you know, we don't we put a lot of funds out to some local families, gave away a lot of stuff. We still had a few things left and well.
Speaker 1:so I mean we we had plenty of damage here. We did, we did like, like our, our hometown of brevard, north carolina, you know so, brevard, pisgah, forest, rosman, you, and then some little smaller communities. We had plenty of damage here, but kind of this, two months out you don't notice much now we don't notice much.
Speaker 2:A lot of it's gone.
Speaker 1:If you go to certain houses, areas, you can see we have several houses, even just up the road here that we know like they have been displaced. Yeah.
Speaker 2:There's going to be people displaced for displays for a long time, yeah, but here there's not much visible for sure. Yeah, not much at all. So um was was up in a different part of the other day and went over to swananoa, north carolina, and that's one of many areas that were were really affected, and this is I mean devastated?
Speaker 2:yeah this is eight weeks after the hurricane and I want to go see what it's like, because we had some things left and and yeah, I you can maybe talk about too, because I went over there, saw the situation come back and said, yeah, we got to take some stuff to help these people out.
Speaker 1:And when I got off the interstate there, so we had thousands of dollars worth of stuff in a trailer that was donated to us. So we were sitting on this like, all right, where do we take it, where do we want to go? And you called me and said hey, I just left swananoa we're going there, we got gotta go, all that's going there and and again.
Speaker 2:This is one location. There's several small there's another 15, just like it, you know, yeah and, and I think you know, two months out they've probably been forgotten about a little bit. There's a lot of stories of are they getting help, are they not? I will tell you personally when I got off the interstate and I saw the number of tents and campers and the debris lining both sides of the road and the trash and the cars flipped over and it's just mind-blowing.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean parts of houses that you could tell did not belong where they are sitting Exactly Some single-wide trailers that there is no foundation, there is no base. That trailer did not sit where it sat when we saw it and and we're going into winter, and well, the day before the day before, we got there, they had snow accumulation. They did.
Speaker 2:There was still snow on the ground when we got there and these people live in tents and and we took a lot of stuff. Uh, I'll go and give a shout out to silverados over there. Oh, absolutely. Um, they're doing some kind of a hub that you can go if you need supplies, if you've got things to donate, you can take it to there and by no means are they only want the only one that is doing it.
Speaker 1:This is just the one that we were fortunate enough to get involved with and be able to take a bunch of our stuff over there there's so many people that are helping locally um, but I see stories you know well, people aren't living in tents. I'm telling you, they're living in tents they are living in and there's so much that needs to be done. How many I mean how many tents did we go by?
Speaker 2:I bought every six, what was it four-person tent they had at our local Walmart?
Speaker 1:Right, and those will be gone by the end of last week.
Speaker 2:I actually saw people you know coming through the line which the whole it's a nonstop line of people coming and getting supplies.
Speaker 1:You drive up in your car, you give them a list of what you're looking for, they let you know if they have it and they come load your car full and at the time he was saying how many cars a day? He was saying a couple hundred a day.
Speaker 2:But we saw more than that. We saw 100 while we were there.
Speaker 1:We were there for like two hours and saw that many cars, so I mean, I imagine they're doing close to three, four days.
Speaker 2:The need is just crazy over there. So it's devastating to see and it seems like the national media has kind of moved on from it a little bit. I did see Fox did a story there they did just the other day Kind of showing.
Speaker 1:They were talking about. Well, there's nobody living in tents and Fox goes hey, we're at a tent camp, exactly, we're right here where it's it's actually happening. So, and don't get wrong, we we'll say stuff at times too, and it's it's like well, maybe it wasn't as bad here where we're at, nowhere near as bad as it was in some of the surrounding areas.
Speaker 2:no, like you said, there were some families that got displaced and they're still struggling.
Speaker 1:You know we're still still trying to help with as much we had temporary shelters for for people for a long time and all that About five weeks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there's still a lot of things to do around this area for some families 100%. But when you get to some of those other areas, they need all the help they can get. And it's to be honest with you, when I got off the interstate I got a little bit emotional because I didn't realize how bad it was still going to be eight weeks after the hurricane. That's like 30 minutes from here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like it's not that far at all, I think that was the area.
Speaker 2:I don't get too much and if you're on the interstate and you drive up you don't see you wouldn't see it.
Speaker 1:No, you absolutely see it. But I mean, I I grew up here pretty much my entire life and to see a lot of that stuff. Typically when I saw it on the news it was, you know, wildfires in california or mudslides elsewhere, and then all of a sudden it's like man this is my backyard Seeing this happen, so that was a big part, like when Kevin Porter of ULD, the current president of the international company, called us and said hey, how's your range? Well, we got some damage, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2:Him and Moby with Shark Attack. Yeah, moby with Shark Attack Golf. They called us like would y'all know we're we'll? We'll figure it out like it's some in moby with the shark attack.
Speaker 1:Yeah, moby, with shark attack golf, they called, was like would y'all be interested? And it was never a. Ah, let me see it was. Yep, it was 100 because it was all about helping the community um, and we didn't get anything from it.
Speaker 2:And I don't want anything from it.
Speaker 1:I don't even want the recognition, absolutely not no, I, I don't care about any of that. It was literally literally just more of. It was great to get to, to do something like it's. It's so hard, like when, when all of it first happened you know, me and David talked about it we're at our range cleaning things up and it's like there's people cleaning up house debris and clean up this and it's like people that don't have a house to clean up, I feel awful cleaning up this when you know this is happening.
Speaker 1:So, of course, like it feels great to help and by no means are we done helping Like we. We plan on doing plenty more moving forward. You know we've got an awesome customer base here and a big part of why we wanted to help out so much in, you know, in Swannanoa, in Marshall, in you know all the, you know chimney rock, all the, all these different areas. I mean we have people that travel, customers that come here. We've got one of our guys who's actually competed with ULD several times lives in Asheville still without water. Yeah, we're two months out and he's he's driving to our place to get water to flush his toilets and I'm like keep coming as long as you want.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anybody, I don't care, like it's just about. We want to help, that's it. You know all the stuff you see on the news or don't see on the news, you go see it with your own eyes. Puts it in perspective. It changes it big time, yeah, and they need all the help they can get.
Speaker 1:So if anybody can help, definitely Like that's not us sitting here saying give your money, give your stuff, no, sometimes it's give your time, like if you're able to volunteer, or if you have a connection with somebody that you can help, but then at the same time, prayers. Those areas need all the prayer they can get because it's going to be a rough winter.
Speaker 2:I mean, we're seeing next week, temperatures are horrible. We were just talking about our families and I couldn't imagine with kids and trying to live in a tent.
Speaker 1:A lot of those areas are still not back in school. No they're not the jobs are hard because it's hard to work because they ain't got to take care of your kid all day as a parent.
Speaker 2:You would feel like a complete failure, even though you did nothing, you had no control on that, but you lost your vehicles, you lost your home. You have no way to do anything. You can't go to work, probably because your work may not even be there. So I don't want to be a debbie downer, but it's. It's a serious situation that we kind of saw for ourselves, not what the news was showing. I'm not saying the news isn't showing it, but just to go see yourself is different than what you see on tv.
Speaker 1:I mean, I saw the and stuff. I didn't get to see anything in person. And then we drive over there and it really just changes what you thought or thinking that, man, it's getting better. We're not close, we've got a long ways to go, for sure, but yeah, so obviously we're kind of closing out on a little bit more of a serious note. That's obviously not going to be always, but it's definitely something that's been on our hearts and on our minds this last couple weeks.
Speaker 2:For sure, and we are thinking about and praying for all those people in those areas, not just that one, but all the areas that are affected by that Western North Carolina, upstate, South Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee, I mean this whole area was hit. But to give you a quick update on emus. Oh gosh, I know how much you love emus.
Speaker 1:I thought I was going to sneak out.
Speaker 2:I thought I was going to get out of it this week, so we're going to at least end on this note. Okay, so some good news for you.
Speaker 1:Hang on, is this the South Carolina escapees?
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, the two Thelma and Louise you of the escapees.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, the two, thelma and Louise. You have to call them by name. Don't start, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 2:Here's the thing. One of them was caught. The problem is they look identical, so we don't know if it's Thelma or Louise. I don't know which one got caught, so we can pick whichever name you want to say got caught. That's who we're going to say got caught, because we're calling them them and louise emu one, emu two, no, so whatever, um, one of them got caught. They don't stay on the loose, so you might sleep a little bit better, not knowing there's only one that could get up here to your house, not two.
Speaker 1:You thought we were having turkey tomorrow.
Speaker 2:You thought it was turkey you joke about that, but some people talked about killing it and I the owner is like I I better not see emu somebody's table tomorrow. They're not going to know.
Speaker 1:They would not know At that point. We just never caught it.
Speaker 2:No, I actually think they said, the one that got caught did get shot in the leg with a buckshot, but it didn't hit it very hard, so they've had to have a vet come in and help it, but it's been months now that it's been loose, my mind went to Monty Python.
Speaker 1:just a flesh wound.
Speaker 2:I couldn't not go there. Well, they've been on loose for months and this one's still loose, but I did. Do they do well in the cold? I have no idea. I'm from Australia. How cold does it get in Australia? I've never been so Well I mean that's fairly south.
Speaker 1:I mean I'm sure they get some different weather. I mean I guess they'll be okay because he's keeping them there in South Carolina.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:That's a good question. We're going to find out. Probably I can't make it on its own or not. Well, but that's you know. That kind of takes me to one little slight thing Driving home the other night I actually think it was last week we got done recording and I was driving home. I hope you're going to tell me you saw an EMI or something. No, it'd be awesome, it was an armadillo.
Speaker 2:Oh, an armadillo. What does it do here?
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Are you sure? Yes, I'm 100% positive. Sure, we're like falling asleep. No, we've been.
Speaker 1:So apparently they've kind of been moving into our area which is super, super weird. So there's a bunch in South Carolina, there's a bunch there in Georgia. Somebody that I used to work with has a big hunt in camp georgia he actually talked about one time one stowed away in his four-wheeler when he was driving back home, and you bring it home and see what started him around here no, that one ended up dying like it was winter and it just didn't make it.
Speaker 1:It was pretty small one, but this was one like really close to my house, pretty large armadillo, and I'm like what is happening?
Speaker 2:like all these wild animals, like I'm that just are not expected to be in areas we're seeing, and it's yeah, if you haven't looked it up or don't know about, there was a bunch of monkeys got loose in south carolina, so I had a discussion with a guy today.
Speaker 1:I've not seen one of my buddies in probably close to a year now. Saw him today and randomly one mad at him. Didn't listen to last week's podcast but randomly starts talking about monkeys and I'm like no, I've not seen you in this long and we're not doing it.
Speaker 2:Something about monkeys is going on right now. I don't monkeys, any muse, and apparently armadillos. Now what's next?
Speaker 1:listen, let me just get to thanksgiving, let me feast, let me take some time, just hang out with everybody. I don't want to worry about monkeys and and birds, and you know, the only birds I need now is turkey.
Speaker 2:Let's eat Tomorrow. The bird will be on the table. It will be.
Speaker 1:I'm excited, I'm super excited Rolls and ham and turkey, all right.
Speaker 2:Number one food. Guys, we're closing right here Number one food. Okay, close us out. Thanksgiving. What do you got? That's a tough one. Are you going dessert? Going Maine food? I'm going to be non-traditional, I'll just tell you, okay, because I know where I'm going. Where are you going? I'm going ham, and I always have to have turkey on Thanksgiving, but I love some ham.
Speaker 1:So everybody says turkey for Thanksgiving and ham for Christmas.
Speaker 2:That's what I have to do. It's almost like a traditional thing.
Speaker 1:I don't know why I'm not traditionalist in most other ways, so I but um, so I'm I'm really big on, like I love turkey gravy, Like I love the gravy, but I think my go-to is about the only time a year I get it Stuffing.
Speaker 2:Oh I love stuffing, occasionally just for dinner.
Speaker 1:No, like, the only time I get stuffing is Thanksgiving, so stuffing is my go-to.
Speaker 2:I'm that way, with with pumpkin pie, it's the only and you get to dessert. Banana pudding.
Speaker 1:Man, that's where it's at. I can mute you Remember this If you're going to talk about the wrong foods. I will mute you.
Speaker 2:I was going to say banana pudding. All of a sudden it's going to get beeped out. Just a quick little cursing.
Speaker 1:Listen, we're not trying to make the podcast explicit. I've got to mark things when I post it.
Speaker 3:It's a whole mess.
Speaker 1:But again, thank you guys for joining us. I actually had a lot of love from last week, a lot of people texting us and it was really you know, it was a few texts I got was man. It was better than I expected.
Speaker 3:I'm like, I don't know how to take that. What does that mean?
Speaker 1:But I appreciate it and you know, I hope you guys get to listen again.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Thanks for listening. We promise it'll get better as we go. Yeah, maybe not, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's a slow rise All right, it's a slow rise, but, thank you guys, happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2:Happy Thanksgiving and we hope to see you soon. That's right, See you everybody.